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>> CALL TO ORDER, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
[A. Regular Meeting Opening]
OF THE CITY OF SACHSE WILL HOLD A REGULAR MEETING AT 6:00 PM ON THURSDAY, JUNE 22ND, 2023, TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS OF BUSINESS.INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE US AND TEXAS FLAG.
>> PLEASE STAND. [NOISE] INVOCATION FIRST.
OUR DEAR FATHER IN HEAVEN WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE HAD TO MEET TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THE NEEDS AND THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY OF SACHSE, AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
PLEASE BLESS US AS WE MEET TOGETHER THAT WE CAN HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR CITY AT HEART TO FURTHER DEVELOP AND HELP WITH THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF OUR CITY.
PLEASE BLESS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOSE THAT SERVE IN OUR CITY AND WORK FOR OUR CITY.
WATCH OVER THEM, WATCH OVER OUR FAMILIES, OUR HOMES AND OUR COMMUNITIES.
PLEASE BLESS THOSE RENDERED NATIONS THAT ARE HURTING, BLESS THOSE THAT ARE STRUGGLING OR HAVING TRIALS AND PLEASE HELP US TO KNOW HOW WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN DO TO BETTER SERVE THOSE AROUND US AND PROVIDE THAT LOVE AND CARE THAT PEOPLE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THESE THINGS WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR AS IN FOR THE NAME JESUS CHRIST AMEN.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WE HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
>> [NOISE] NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT.
[B. Public Comment]
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD REGARDING ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.THE TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE ACTING SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE BOARD IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE'LL TAKE COMMENTS UNDER ADVISEMENT.
WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER THAT WANTS TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
>> YOU WON'T GET QUITE EASY TO CALL IT OUT.
MARTY HOLBOKE 8511 OAK RIDGE CIRCLE, SACHSE TEXAS, TOP OF THE HILL. IT'LL BE FAST.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO IT AND ITEMS 2 AND 3 AND I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE SPECIFICALLY, BUT YOU DID GET THE HORSE BEFORE THE CART.
IN YOUR PAPERWORK, YOU'RE GIVING YOURSELF $100,000 FOR LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY RULES FOR IT AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY THEY WORK THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THAT'S IT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. HOLBOKE. ITEM C, CONSENT AGENDA.
[C. Consent Agenda - All items listed on the consent agenda will be considered by the Board and will be enacted on by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Board member so requests.]
ALL ITEMS LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD AND WILL BE ENACTED ON BY ONE MOTION.THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A BOARD MEMBER SO REQUEST.
THE ITEMS ARE, NUMBER 1, APPROVE THE MAIN MAY 9, 2023 JOINT COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL AND EDC MEETING MINUTES.
NUMBER 2, APPROVE THE MAY 18TH, 2023 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
NUMBER 3, ACCEPT THE MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING APRIL 30TH, 2023 AND ITEM NUMBER 4, APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> WE HAVE A MOVE TO ACCEPT BY MR. KINSEY.
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MOVING ON TO ITEM D, REGULAR ITEMS. I SHOULD HIGHLIGHTED, I DIDN'T MEAN TO.
NUMBER 1, RECEIVE ANY REPORTS AND
[1. Receive any reports and presentations by the Sachse Economic Development Corporation President, Board Members, Executive Director, and staff regarding items of community interest; special events; announcements and activities; office, industrial, commercial, or retail business retention; and marketing projects.]
PRESENTATIONS BY THE SACHSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PRESIDENT, BOARD MEMBERS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND STAFF REGARDING ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, SPECIAL EVENTS, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND ACTIVITIES, OFFICE INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL BUSINESS RETENTION AND MARKETING PROJECTS.>> THANK YOU, MISS PRESIDENT. IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING COOL WITH PUSHING THE MEETING BACK ONE WEEK, IT'S VERY HELPFUL.
THE STAFF REPORT WILL BE PRETTY BRIEF THIS EVENING.
I'D JUST LIKE TO START OUT BY NOTING THAT THIS IS SO THE FIRST TIME TO RUN THE MEETING AND BOARD DOCK SO WE'RE REALLY DELIGHTED WE HAVE HER AND SHE'S DOING GREAT SO FAR SO NO PRESSURE.
AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, IF YOU FOLLOW THE SACHSE EDC, FACEBOOK PAGE, WE ANNOUNCED THAT JAKE'S IS COMING TO 78 AND COUNTRY CLUB AND WE'RE REALLY DELIGHTED BY THE RESPONSE WE GOT ON THIS POST AND WE DID SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING WITH THIS GROUP, BUT WE ACTUALLY BOOSTED THE POST SO WE WENT THROUGH AND DENISE HAS DONE A BUNCH OF RESEARCH INTO BOOSTING YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA REACH AND HOW YOU GET MORE ENGAGEMENTS AND SO FORTH AND SO JUST IN ONE DAY, IT'S PROBABLY THE SECOND BIGGEST POSTS WE'VE HAD IN MY TIME HERE IN SACHSE.
OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE RESPONSE I THINK TO THAT ANNOUNCEMENT SO VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO FINALLY ANNOUNCE THAT AND SO HOPEFULLY THERE'S MORE THAT WE CAN ANNOUNCE IT HERE SOON BUT KEY TAKEAWAY WAS THE BOOSTING OF THE POST.
WE FOUND THAT TO BE QUITE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST BUDGET, DID IT THIS TIME FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY GOOD DEAL SO.
>> OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDINGS THERE.
>> YES. THEY GOT, WE ANNOUNCED IT ONCE THEY HAD PULLED THEIR PERMIT AND THEIR PR PEOPLE SAID WE HAD THE GREEN LIGHT SO THEY ACTUALLY PUT THIS LITTLE GRAPHIC TOGETHER FOR US.
>> THEY'LL HAVE THE END CAP IN THE BUILDING THAT STARBUCKS HAS IN THEY'LL HAVE THAT PATIO AREA SO WE'RE EXCITED.
>> WAS IT JUST ANNOUNCED ON FACEBOOK OR WOULD BE YOUR INSTAGRAM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND ALL THAT ON?
>> FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND THEN WE ARE DOING A SEPARATE POST.
WE'RE GOING TO DO [NOISE] WORDED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY FOR LINKEDIN BECAUSE [NOISE] THOSE ARE OUR THREE GO-TO SITES SO INSTAGRAM, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS REACH TO FACEBOOK LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ONLINE AND SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO HIT EVERYBODY WE CAN SO FIFTH STREET DISTRICT.
THIS WOULD BE BRIEF, WE TOOK TO CITY COUNCIL TUESDAY NIGHT THERE, AS THE BOARD KNOWS, WE WENT TO BID THE ALEXANDER STREET INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
THE PROJECT BIDS, I THINK FIVE WERE RECEIVED, ONE CAME IN ACTUALLY UNDER BUDGET AND SO THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THE AWARDING OF THAT BID AND SO THERE IS A FIRM THAT WAS CHOSEN TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK.
OF COURSE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT ALEXANDER STREET IMPROVEMENTS, SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, THE TEMPORARY PARKING ARE GETTING UTILITIES TO THE BUILDINGS, THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS SO WE ARE QUITE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THAT PIECE AND I ACTUALLY HAVE A CALL TOMORROW.
WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH DEVELOPERS AGREEMENTS.
HAVE A CALL TOMORROW WITH ONE OF THE GROUPS TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THEIR QUESTIONS, BUT STILL MOVING ALONG AND CERTAINLY THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE A HUGE BOON, I THINK FOR THE PROJECT SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
THE BIO INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION.
THIS IS A BIOTECHNOLOGY INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION AND AS THIS GROUP CERTAINLY KNOWS WITH THE EVOLVE BIOLOGICS PROJECT COMING TO OUR CITY FACT, THE TILT WALL IS UP.
IT'S WILD TO SEE FROM THE HIGHWAY.
I MEAN, IT'S A REAL BUILDING, [LAUGHTER] 200,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE WENT THROUGH, WE DID A LOT OF WORK TARGET SECTOR IDENTIFICATION AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO WAS CAPITALIZE ON THE BIOTECH LIFE SCIENCES WELLNESS,
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THAT SORT OF INDUSTRY.I WENT TO THIS CONVENTION UP IN BOSTON WITH DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER AND A NUMBER OF OUR PEER CITIES, DALLAS COLLEGE FOLKS FROM PEGASUS PARK, WHICH IS A BIO LABS.
INTERESTING, DALLAS IS REALLY MAKING A VERY CONCERTED BUSHES OR REGION TO BECOME NEED PLAYER IN THIS SPACE.
A BIG PART YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT WITH DFW AIRPORT BEING ONE OF TWO CERTIFIED COLD STORAGE AIRPORTS, [NOISE] IT'S A HUGE ATTRACT OR PROBABLY WHY AMONG OTHER REASONS, WE'RE GETTING SOME BIG TIME ANNOUNCEMENTS HERE.
YOU HAVE A PEGASUS PARK, WHICH I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S HEARD ABOUT, BUT IT'S THE ONLY NON-COASTAL BIO LAB SPACE WHICH YOU RENT.
YOUR WET LAB SPACE YOU GET ALL THE AMENITIES AND IT'S WAY CHEAPER THAN IT WOULD BE ON EITHER THE COASTS.
WE HAD FOLKS FROM THERE, AGAIN, REPRESENTATIVES FROM GRAND PRAIRIE, RICHARDSON, DESOTO, MIDLOTHIAN, MCNERNEY.
IT WAS REALLY QUITE NICE TO HAVE THE SACHSE LOGO ON A BANNER WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER BIGGER, MAYBE MORE WELL-KNOWN CITIES IN THIS CONVENTION HALL IN BOSTON.
YOU CAN SEE THERE ONE OF THE BANNERS, OBVIOUSLY OUR LOGO IS THERE AND SMALL BUT GET A FEEL FOR THE CONVENTION SPACE.
BUT THIS WAS AN INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION.
YOU HAD ENTIRE COUNTRIES THERE THAT WERE REPRESENTING THIS INDUSTRY.
OUR BOOTH AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS NEXT TO MEXICO AND INDIA.
THEN YOU HAD FIRMS, YOU HAD START-UPS THAT WERE LOOKING FOR VENTURE CAPITAL FUNDING AND EVERYBODY, MEDIA, PRESS, ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY INTEREST IN THIS AT ALL WAS THERE.
WE WERE INVITED TO GO WITH THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER.
IT'S REALLY QUITE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND SPEAK NOT ONLY TO OUR REGION, DFW AS A WHOLE, GREAT EDUCATION HERE, GREAT WORKFORCE, GREAT ACCESS HIGHWAYS, THE ALL YOU GUYS ALL KNOW.
BUT THEN TO BE ABLE TO ALSO TALK ABOUT SACHSE AND TO HAVE PEOPLE COME UP AND KNOW ABOUT EVOLVED BIOLOGICS WAS SWEET.
THE QUESTION BE LIKE, WELL, WHY TEXAS? BECAUSE WE'RE STILL AN EMERGING MARKET HERE.
IT'S TELLING THAT STORY, GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF THESE PLAYERS IN THIS INDUSTRY.
YOU HEAR, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT TEXAS.
I THINK IT'S SPOOK IN THE COASTAL FOLKS [LAUGHTER] A LITTLE BIT THAT BOSTON AND SAN DIEGO I THINK HAVE DONE REALLY WELL IN THIS SPACE, BUT TEXAS IS REALLY TRYING TO MOVE IN.
AGAIN, WE WERE THERE TO PROMOTE THE REGION.
I GOT TO HAVE A LOT OF GREAT CONVERSATIONS, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SACHSE PROJECT APOLLO, THE BENEFITS OF COMING TO OUR AREA.
FROM THAT YOU PROBABLY THINKING LIKE WHAT'S NEXT? YOU CAN SEE EVERYBODY IS WEARING A LANYARD IN THE PHOTO.
I'M IN THE BACK, LOOK LIKE A NERD.
[LAUGHTER] BUT WE WERE SCANNING, GETTING LEADS, GENERATING LEADS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS BASICALLY BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THOSE.
WILL PROBABLY HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP WITH THE DALLAS REGION CHAMBER AND THERE'LL BE DEFINITELY SOME LEVEL OF FOLLOW-UP THEN CERTAINLY FROM A MORE REGIONAL STANDPOINT.
BUT FOR US, WE'VE GOT FOLKS THAT WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH.
I ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A FELLOW FROM SAXONY IN GERMANY.
[LAUGHTER] HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT THE REGION OF SAXONY.
HIS COMPANY WAS CALLED BIOSAXONY, AND HE WAS REALLY INTO OUR COMMUNITIES NAME, [LAUGHTER] SO IT WAS FANTASTIC.
>> THIS IS VILLAGE IN GERMANY, IS THAT?
>> IT WAS SWEET. IT WAS REALLY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, GREAT EXPOSURE FOR US AS A COMMUNITY.
GREAT CONNECTING WITH THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WERE THERE CERTAINLY, BUT JUST BRAND EXPOSURE, I THINK WAS REALLY HUGE.
>> JARED, DID YOU SAY HOW MANY TIMES THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER HAS BEEN TO THIS BIO INTERNATIONAL OR IS THIS THEIR FIRST TIME THERE HAVE BEEN THERE?
>> THE SECOND TIME THAT THEY HAVE GONE.
>> YES, MA'AM. ACTUALLY THE DALLAS CHAMBER.
I BELIEVE THAT THE BIO CONVENTION LAST YEAR WAS GOING ON.
THERE WERE SOME BIO CONVENTION AND ACTUALLY THE VICE PRESIDENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE REGIONAL CHAMBER,
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KEVIN CHATELIER HAD TO MISS THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR PROJECT APOLLO BECAUSE HE WAS DOING BIOTECH STUFF.IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN NEXT YEAR THERE'LL BE IN SAN DIEGO.
ANOTHER WILL GO. WE MIGHT LOOK INTO IT.
>> GREAT EXPOSURE FOR US IN THE SACHSE BRAND, I THINK.
UPCOMING EVENTS. YOUR PLACE, THERE'S A PLACARD FOR YOUR VEHICLE, FOR THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE BLASTS, THESE ARE APPARENTLY VERY HOT COMMODITY, SO HANG ONTO IT.
>> MY EARS, [OVERLAPPING].I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
[OVERLAPPING]. INDEPENDENCE DAY, SO THE OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON JULY 4TH AND THEN OUR NEXT EDC BOARD MEETING WILL BE JULY 20TH.
THAT'S IT FROM MY BRIEF STAFF REPORT TODAY.
>> WELL, THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> A QUESTION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR FUTURE ITEMS IN RELATION TO THE BIO AREA.
WOULD WE HAVE SOMETHING WHERE WE STRATEGIZE ON WHAT SUPPLIER THE PERIPHERAL BUSINESSES IS, ESPECIALLY WITH EVOLVE COMING IN.
BUT THE BIGGER PICTURE IN THE AREA THAT MAYBE WE COULD ATTRACT TO HEAR WHAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER [NOISE] COMPETITION THERE.
>> IS A REALLY GOOD POINT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE PICTURE, BUT THE KEY MESSAGE THAT THE CHAMBER WAS TRYING TO PROMOTE WAS THAT ITS LIFE SCIENCE CONVERGING IN DFW.
BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT AUSTIN AND THESE OTHER PLACES.
BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN THE TECH WORKFORCE THAN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF SCHOOL AND THEY'RE READY.
THEY ARE EQUIPPED TO ENTER THE WORKFORCE, BUT THEY'RE LEAVING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE JOBS HERE.
GREAT POINT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD PEOPLE THERE THAT KNEW ALL THE GREAT STUFF GOING ON AT COLLIN COLLEGE, OBVIOUSLY DALLAS COLLEGE, THERE'S A BIG SECRET GRANT OF EIGHT POINT SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS FOR CANCER RESEARCH.
BUT TO CLOSE THE LOOP, WHAT THE CHAMBER'S KEY POINT IS, IS WE HAVE ALL THESE TECH WORKERS, WE HAVE ALL OF THIS MEDICAL, LIKE WE'RE A DESTINATION FOR AI FOR ALL THIS RESEARCH.
ALL OF THESE THINGS LEAN THEMSELVES TO SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER.
[NOISE] WHENEVER WE GOING BACK TO THE TARGET SECTORS PIECE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT WAS FOR PROJECT APOLLO, I KEEP CALLING IT APOLLO 4 EVOLVE.
WHAT SUPPORT INDUSTRIES, WHAT COTTAGE INDUSTRIES WOULD WANT TO LOOK INTO? WITH RICHARDSON BEING RIGHT THERE, THE TELECOM PORT OR THEY HAVE SOME INCUBATOR SPACE.
THE ANGLE IS HOW DO WE CAPITALIZE ON OTHER [OVERLAPPING]
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN AGENDA OR SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO DISCUSS THAT AND SEE IF WE DO GO INTO THAT AREA, WHAT SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING BECAUSE EVEN IN LIGHT OF OTHER DISCUSSIONS OUR SPACE IS GETTING LIMITED.
I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT NOW.
THEN IF WE NEEDED TO SOMEHOW ENCOURAGE CERTAIN THINGS TO HAPPEN, WE WOULD NOW HAVE A STRATEGY FOR THAT SO WE DON'T LOSE THAT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED.
MAYBE HAVE PEGASUS COME IN AND SPEAK TO.
>> MAYBE HAVE PEGASUS COME AND PRESENT.
>> YEAH, PEGASUS, THE REAGENT CHAMBER THEY HAVE A DEDICATED LIFE SCIENCES PROFESSIONAL AND SHE WAS JUST A ROCKSTAR TALKING TO PEOPLE AND SHE KNOWS EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT WHO'S A PLAYER HERE.
I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM SOMEBODY.
IN FACT, I THINK TODAY THERE WAS EVEN A BUSY NOW LIFE SCIENCES FOR THEM SOMEWHERE. GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
>> I HAVE HEARD THEM SPEAK. I'M SURE IF YOU CATCH THEM ON THE RIGHT DAY, I'M COMING BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE THREE OR FOUR CALM BIG COMPANIES, BUT PLAYERS THAT PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT BE GOOD TO HEAR WHAT THEY'RE UP TO AND AT LEAST HAVE SACHSE OUT IN FRONT OF THEIR FACE THERE.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO OR THEY NEED STUFF.
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>> CAN I INTERRUPT IN? THERE'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T DO WHEN WE WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT ITEM C. MR. HOLBOKE IS HERE AND HE WANTED TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM C. CAN WE GO BACK AND CAPTURE THAT OR DO I NEED TO MOVE FORWARD? MR. HOLBOKE HAS A CAR THAT HE WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM C3.
IS IT OKAY FOR ME TO CALL HIM BACK UP AT THIS TIME OR DO I NEED TO GO? WHAT ARE THE RULES HERE?
>> I CAN CALL HIM BACK? [OVERLAPPING] MR. HOLBOKE I'M SO SORRY.
>> WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT.
[2. Consider the Sachse Economic Development Corporation FY 2023-2024 Budget.]
CONSIDER THIS SACHSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.>> MR. PRESIDENT, I'M BRINGING THIS ITEM TO YOU ALL, A LITTLE EARLIER THAN WE DID LAST YEAR.
LAST YEAR WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU IN JULY, APPROVED IN AUGUST, BUT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND FROM IT A LITTLE EARLIER, TALK ABOUT BUDGET REQUEST ITEMS CERTAINLY.
TONIGHT IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM.
THERE'S NOT EVEN A REQUEST TO TAKE ACTION, BUT IT'S REALLY TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED, HOW SOME OF THAT TIES INTO GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND SO FORTH.
THEN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION AS PART OF OUR BUDGET REQUESTS THIS YEAR WILL BE THE LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH WE LAST DISCUSSED IN NOVEMBER, SO WE WILL CERTAINLY GET INTO THAT.
BUT FROM A PRESENTATION OUTLINE STANDPOINT, I WILL DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND TALK ABOUT THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, GO THROUGH THE BUDGET WORKSHEET.
EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF THE BUDGET WORKSHEET, DISCUSS SOME KEY HIGHLIGHTS AND THEN I'LL PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL ACCOUNT DETAIL FOR SOME OF THOSE ITEMS WHERE THINGS HAVE MAYBE CHANGED SINCE THE PACKET, WOULD BEEN OUT.
BECAUSE THIS IS A LIVING FLUID DOCUMENT RIGHT NOW.
THINGS ARE CHANGING AND THEN HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION.
THEN OF COURSE, THE NEXT ITEM IS SIMPLE BUSINESS GRANTS.
THESE ARE TETHERED TO ONE ANOTHER BUT THEY ARE SEPARATE ITEMS. AGAIN, FROM AN OVERVIEW STANDPOINT MENTIONED, BUT IT'S STILL CHANGING.
WE JUST HAD OUR MEETING RECENTLY WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO PRELIMINARY WALK THROUGH THE REQUESTS.
WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH FOLKS.
IN FACT, DENISE AND I HAVE A CALL IN TWO WEEKS WITH ANOTHER VENDOR ON SOME PRICING TO WALK THROUGH SOME ITEMS. THIS IS STILL A LIVING DOCUMENT, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE'RE IN A REALLY GOOD PLACE FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHAT THE REQUESTS ARE AND THEN ITS MAYBE SOME OF THE MINUTIAE.
THEY CAN TAKE ACTION ON BUDGET DURING JULY EDC BOARD MEETING IF WE WANT TO.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION THIS EVENING.
THERE WILL BE ANOTHER MEETING TO DO THAT.
A KEY POINT, AND I WILL PROBABLY SAY THIS EVERY MEETING, [LAUGHTER] BUT BUDGETED DOLLARS NOT SPENT, ROLL BACK INTO THE EDC FUND BALANCE.
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE, ESPECIALLY AS YOU SEE IF THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE MAYBE DON'T GET TO IN A FISCAL YEAR, THAT MONEY GOES BACK INTO THE EDC FUND AS OPPOSED TO GOING BACK INTO A GENERAL FUND, FOR EXAMPLE, SO THAT MONEY STAYS IN THE EDC FUND.
KEY THING, IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE WE'VE DISCUSSED, BUT THE SPONSORSHIP POLICY WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 2024.
THE WHOLE THING THERE WAS, WE'LL START THIS IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, SO WHEN WE GET INTO THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS PIECE, I'LL POINT THAT OUT AGAIN AND AGAIN, WE'LL GET INTO LOCAL BUSINESS GRANTS, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO BRING INCENTIVES TO THE EDC BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT IS A DIFFERENT PROGRAM ALTOGETHER.
SO WE WOULD STILL BRING INCENTIVES THAT ARE REQUESTING ANYTHING OVER THE DOLLAR THRESHOLD THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FROM A STAFF ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT AND ANYTHING WITH SALES TAX IMPLICATIONS WOULD COME AND IT'S TOTALLY SEPARATE PROCESS.
A COUPLE THINGS TO START OUT WITH REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE SOME PROJECTIONS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE SECOND-TO-LAST COLUMN, THE FY2024 PROJECTION, THE COLUMN TO THE LEFT OF THAT, OF COURSE, OUR FISCAL YEAR GOES THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT, BUT WE HAVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH AND SO THERE'S STILL,
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I THINK THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE UPDATED ONCE A MONTH BASICALLY.SO THESE NUMBERS ARE FROM MID-JUNE.
THE EXPENDITURES, AND THIS IS ONE THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY SEEING THAT AND THINKING, WE HAVE NOT SPENT $1 MILLION, 1,024,000.
BASICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUND BALANCE, OUR RIGHT-HAND SHOWS UP AS AN ASSET ON THE FUND BALANCE.
WE CONVEYED PROPERTY TO THE CITY FOR THE FIFTH STREET DISTRICT PROJECT.
THAT SHOWS UP AS A OUTGOING, ALMOST LIKE A GRANT, IF YOU WILL, IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET.
BUT IF YOU ELIMINATE THE $700,000 AND SOMETHING, THAT WAS THE VALUE OF THE LAND THAT WAS CONVEYED.
THIS YEAR-TO-DATE ACTIVITY IS CLOSER TO $300,000.
WE HAVE OUR FINANCE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR HERE.
WE CAN GET INTO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
BUT I DID WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, SO YOU WEREN'T THINKING, WHAT IS HE [LAUGHTER] PAID? WE'RE JUST GOING BACK TO THE FURTHEST COLUMN ON THE RIGHT FY2024 REVISED SINCE EDC PACKET.
THE PACKET OUT, YOU ALL SAW THE BUDGET WORKSHEET AND JUST IN CONVERSATIONS AND DAILY BUSINESS, WE'VE MADE SOME PROPOSALS TO ADD SOME CHANGES WHICH WE'LL GET TO.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE REVENUE PROJECTION HAS STAYED THE SAME, BUT OUR EXPENDITURES PROJECTION HAS GONE UP FROM WHAT WENT OUT AS 751 TO 921, NOW WE'LL WALK THROUGH ALL THAT AND IT SHOWS REVENUES LESS EXPENDITURES AGAIN, ALL THIS GOES BACK A LITTLE SPECK INTO THE FUND BALANCE 618,000 BACK IN FUND BALANCE, EVEN WITH A $921,000 EXPENDITURES.
AGAIN, FUND BALANCE, YOU CAN SEE THERE FROM A CASH LIQUIDITY STANDPOINT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT OUR CASH AND OUR INVESTMENTS.
WE HAVE BASICALLY $4.7 BILLION LIQUID, NOT INCLUDING OTHER LAND ASSETS THAT HAVE $1 VALUE ASSIGNED TO THEM, AND TIFF RECEIVABLE, FUNDING AND SALES TAX RECEIVABLE THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED YET.
JUST FROM A LIQUIDITY STANDPOINT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.
THEN WHAT CONSTITUTES THAT REVENUES NUMBER, YOU SEE THAT THE SALES TAX PROJECTION FOR 2024, AND THIS IS THE BOX ON THE LEFT, THE RED OUTLINE BUT PROJECTING 1.4 MILLION SALES TAX.
WE HAVE THE GISD GRANT AND THEN WE'RE PROJECTING INTEREST INCOME OF 100,000.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, I THINK WE PROJECTED NINE OR $10,000 IN INTEREST FOR THIS YEAR.
WE'RE ALREADY HAD 80 ISH AN INTEREST INCOME, AND SO WE'VE AGAIN SHOUT OUT TO FINANCE AND CITY MANAGER FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING THERE.
BUT WE'VE UPDATED THAT PROJECTION TO MORE OR SO REFLECT WHAT WE THINK IS THE REALITY. IT'S GREAT.
THE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE AN EYE CHART, BUT IT IS THE BUDGET WORKSHEET.
THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL HAVE AT YOUR PLACE. IT'S BEEN PRINTED.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE YELLOW AND GRAY STARS REPRESENT ITEMS THAT WILL HAVE A SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL SLIDE THAT WE CAN GET INTO.
PLEASE STOP ME AT ANYTIME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, ANYTHING JUMPS OUT, BUT I THINK [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] BUT PLEASE, DEFINITELY JUMP IN, STOP ME ANYTIME.
I'M NOT INTENDING TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME ON SOME OF THE MORE OFFICE DAY-TO-DAY STUFF HAPPENING TO YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT MY INTENTION IS TO FOCUS MORE ON THE BIGGER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT I SEE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE REALLY DON'T CONTROL OR HAVE ANY DISCRETION OVER.
I KNOW THAT'S ALL JUST RUN THROUGH FINANCE AND THE SHARING OF COST, UP SALARIES OR SOMETHING THAT'S SIMPLE, THAT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT DETAIL-WISE FOR THAT?
>> HONESTLY FOR OFFICE SUPPLIES AND POSTAGE, I JUST ANTICIPATED IF YOU GUYS WERE TO BE LIKE, HEY, WHY DID THIS GO UP? I'M READY FOR IT.
[LAUGHTER] BUT NO, I'M TOTALLY GOOD.
I'M TOTALLY GREAT TO NOT DIG IN.
JUST REAL QUICK ON THE OFFICE SUPPLIES I CAN JUST BASICALLY SAY WE HAD 5,750 IN THAT SPECIFIC LINE ITEM IN THE '23 BUDGET.
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IT WAS FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS TO GET THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR SQUARED AWAY; PHONE, COMPUTER, LAPTOP.TALKING TO FINANCE AGAIN, THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF CLEANUP WORK IN OUR LINE ITEMS, PULLED THAT FROM A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT CODE, AND SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE ONLY SPENT 100 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS IN OFFICE SUPPLIES.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY BRINGING THAT WAY DOWN ANYWAY, BUT POSTAGE, HAPPY TO NOT TALK ABOUT POSTAGE.
[LAUGHTER] BUT WAGES AND SALARIES, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM 2023-2024 PROPOSED COORDINATOR POSITION IS A DIFFERENT CLASS THAN THE ANALYST POSITION.
THAT SHOULD EXPLAIN THE DISPARITY THERE, ESSENTIALLY THE DIFFERENCE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN DECISION ON WHO OR THE POSITION, I GUESS?
>> THE POSITION WAS RECLASSIFIED AND POSTED DIFFERENT.
>> IS THERE ANOTHER PAGE TO THIS [NOISE]?
>> THREE PAGES. I'VE GOT A HIGHLIGHT SLIDE NEXT THAT I CAN JUST GO STRAIGHT TO.
AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL SEE HERE, LEGAL CONSULTING FEES, I'LL EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S GOING UP AND WHY PROTECTION SERVICES IS GOING UP.
WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO DO WAS TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE KEY THINGS.
THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES SINCE THE PACKET WENT OUT, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THERE WILL BE OTHER CHANGES AS THINGS ARE FLUID RELATIVE TO LIKE OPERATING TRANSFER OUT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT BOX SHOWS 118,000.
WE HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST IN THIS YEAR AND IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVED.
AGAIN, THIS IS PRELIMINARY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL GIS POSITION THAT WOULD BE PARTIALLY FUNDED BY EDC, AND SO OUR ALLOCATED OVERHEAD WOULD GO UP IF THAT WAS FUNDED.
IT MIGHT HAPPEN, IT MIGHT NOT.
THAT'S PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AWAY.
>> IS THAT A COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER DECISION?
>> YES. IT'S IN A SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST.
>> YOU SEE THE OBJECT CATEGORY 50, THE OTHER RED BOX, THE 703,000, THAT'S THE DOLLAR VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIFTH STREET PROJECT.
THAT'S NOT LIKE ALL THE GRANTS OR WHATEVER THAT WE'VE DONE.
THAT'S JUST THE VALUE OF THAT LAND THAT'S GONE OUT.
>> I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE PERSONAL COST.
I SEE THE NUMBER IS ABOUT THE SAME OR LESS, BUT THERE'S SOME CHANGES AND ALLOCATION AND SOME THINGS HAD BEEN ZERO AND NOW THEY'RE NOT.
LIKE HEALTH INSURANCE, NOW IT'S 30, IT WASN'T, WAS THAT JUST SOME CHANGE IN COST ALLOCATION?
>> YEAH, THIS WAS BASICALLY AN ACCOUNTING MECHANISM.
ALL OF THAT FUNDING THAT YOU CAN SEE IN VACATION, SICK LEAVE, HEALTH INSURANCE, DENTAL, LIFE, WORKERS COMP, WAS ALL PREVIOUSLY IN, I BELIEVE, IT WAS EMPLOYEE INSURANCE TRANSFER OUT.
THAT BOTTOM GRAY BOX RIGHT ABOVE WHERE IT SAYS OBJECT CATEGORY 41.
SO 27,000 IS WHAT WAS IN THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR 2023.
NOW ALL OF THAT IS SEPARATED INTO THESE VARIOUS LINE ITEMS AND THIS IS TO MAKE IT STANDARD ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION TO SOME ACCOUNTING CLEANUP, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. [NOISE]
>> BUT CERTAINLY AS THE JOB CLASSIFICATION CHANGES, THERE'S IMPLICATIONS ACROSS HEALTH INSURANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> SURE. I GUESS THAT WOULD START WITH CHANGING WHAT? THE WAGE AND SALARY AND THEN THERE WOULD BE SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS RELATED TO THAT.
>> YES. WE'VE GOT THE POSITIONS OBVIOUSLY FUNDED AND HIRED, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF IS WHAT IT IS NOW, BUT THE ANALYSTS HAD A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SOME OF THAT.
THE KEY HIGHLIGHTS, AGAIN, I TRIED TO CAPTURE A FEW TRENDS.
YOU CAN SEE FY 2023 AMENDED BUDGET, SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING ON NOW, WHAT WE HAVE FOR THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR, AND THEN WHAT? THAT NEXT COLUMN 24 PROPOSED IN THE EDC PACKET, AGAIN, TO JUST CLARIFY, THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL WERE SENT WHEN THE AGENDA WAS POSTED AND THEN THERE'S A TREND FROM THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS, THE DELTA.
THEN THAT FURTHEST COLUMN IS THE PROPOSED EDITS SINCE THE PACKET WAS SENT TO THE BOARD.
WE'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE, BUT AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT SALARY,
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POSTAGE, SMALL TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT.THESE ARE DAY-TO-DAY THINGS, BUT GETTING INTO SOFTWARE.
THIS IS A KEY DISTINCTION, SO DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS IN SOFTWARE, YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN FY 2023 IT WAS 51,000 AND THIS YEAR, IT'S 7,000, AND WHAT FINANCE HAS DONE IS THEY'VE PARSED.
YOU DON'T JUST HAVE DUE SUBSCRIPTION, SOFTWARE, TECH, ALL IN ONE BUCKET.
YOUR DUES IN YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS OVER HERE, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR SOFTWARE OVER HERE, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A $43,000 DELTA FROM PREVIOUS YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
FOR SOFTWARE, YOU SAW NOT APPLICABLE LAST YEAR IN 46,000 THIS YEAR.
WE'LL GET INTO THIS, BUT RELATIVE TO THE SOFTWARE PIECE WE ARE PROPOSING, YOU SAW 46 IN THE PACKET WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST 51.
I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A FUTURE SLIDE FOR LEGAL CONSULTING FEES.
IN FACT WE'RE OVER WHAT'S IN OUR BUDGET IN LEGAL FEES.
AND I TAKE THAT AS A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT MEANS WE'RE WORKING ON DEALS, WERE DOING AGREEMENTS, WERE WORKING, MAKING THINGS HAPPEN.
WE'RE REQUESTING AT LEAST 20,000, WHICH IS THE CHANGE FROM THE 15 THAT WENT OUT IN THE PACKET.
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THIS IS A DIFFERENCE.
WE'RE REQUESTING 220,000 AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PLACEHOLDER FOR RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
LAST WAS DONE IN 2017, VERY INTEGRAL DOCUMENT FOR THE CITY.
MAYBE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS.
WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION NOW ABOUT WHAT THAT UPDATE MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
I'LL BREAK DOWN THIS A BIT MORE, BUT SINCE WE MET AND SINCE THE PACKET WENT OUT, THE COST HAS GONE UP FOR WHAT WE ENVISIONED.
THE COMPLAINT COSTING AND ART PIECE IN THAT.
LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT, OBVIOUSLY 100,000, WE'LL GET MORE INTO THAT.
COMMUNITY RELATIONS DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM PREVIOUS YEAR.
WEBPAGE SERVICES DOWN BECAUSE THE WEBSITE UPDATE WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR AND THEN THE OTHER HALF IS THIS FISCAL.
ADVERTISING AND LEGAL, WE'LL GET INTO THIS, BUT WE'LL BE REQUESTING POTENTIALLY UP TO 30,000 MORE.
A VIDEO WILL SHOW BOTH WALK THROUGH THIS IN A MINUTE.
THEN FOR EMPLOYEE TRAINING, GOING BACK TO THE EVOLVE BIOLOGICS.
ONE THING THAT WE DON'T HAVE IS A BUSINESS RECRUITMENT, BUSINESS ATTRACTION TYPE LINE, AND SO WE THOUGHT THAT PUTTING MONEY IN THERE FOR THOSE TYPES OF TRIPS TO ANTICIPATE THINGS WITH THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER, TEAM TEXAS, DFW MARKETING TEAM, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE THAT WE CAN GO AND PROMOTE SACHSE, WE HAVE SOME FUNDING THERE.
>> HOW IS THAT EMPLOYEE TRAINING?
>> IT'S EMPLOYEE TRAINING TRAVEL IS WHAT THAT LINE IS CALLED.
AGAIN, FINANCE HAS BEEN DOING A TON OF WORK ON THE BACK END TO CLEAN THIS STUFF UP AND THAT CAN POSSIBLY BE A FUTURE ONE THAT THEY TAKE A LOOK AT.
>> WE CAN'T RENAME THAT? [INAUDIBLE] POINT, THAT'S CONFUSING TO ME, EMPLOYEE TRAINING VERSUS EMPLOYEE TRAVEL, THOSE BE TWO SEPARATE THINGS IN MY OPINION.
>> YEAH, IT'S LIKE EMPLOYEE TRAINING/TRAVELS IS WHAT IT'S CALLED. [OVERLAPPING]
>> DID FINANCE UPDATE IT TO SAY THAT?
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS ACROSS THE BOARD, JUST A STANDARD.
THAT'S THE NOMENCLATURE FOR IT.
>> I GUESS, TO A POINT IT'S LIKE I MAY NOT TRAVEL ALL THE TIME, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRAINING, BUT I MAY DO TRAINING THAT I DON'T NEED TRAVELING, CHARGE TO TRAVEL, I GUESS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE AGAIN, THE COSTING IS THEY'RE TOGETHER IN THE SAME BUCKET.
>> YEAH. WE HAVE OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR HERE.
>> I THINK IT'S IRONIC, EVERYTHING ELSE IS SO DEFINED, THAT SEEMS VERY WIDE-OPEN AND IT'S REALLY WEIRD HOW YOU DEFINE THINGS.
>> WE'RE STILL TRYING TO TRACK THAT MILLION DOLLARS WHERE BELIZE CAME IN AND [LAUGHTER]
>> ADVERTISING LEGAL PUBLICATIONS, YOU CAN SEE I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING PROBABLY UP TO $30,000 FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VIDEO.
I WANTED TO ACTUALLY SHOW YOU.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THIS FIRM, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO, I THINK THEIR TAGLINE IS, WE MAKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VIDEOS.
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OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN GO GET A CADILLAC VERSION WITH ALL SORTS OF THINGS.WHEN THEY SHOWED US THAT PRICE, WE WERE LIKE, WHAT? THEN I SAID, THIS A REVISED PROPOSAL, I THINK THAT FOR WHAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, WE CAN GET A PRETTY GOOD VIDEO.
IF NOBODY OBJECTS, I COULD PLAY ONE FROM ANOTHER CITY OR I COULD SIT IT OUT IN THE UPDATE ON FRIDAY.
THE CITY OF MESQUITE, WE ARE GOING TO SHOW THEIR VIDEO.
THEY HAVE A GREAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
>> IS THIS IS FROM THE SAME FIRM?
>> I'D PROBABLY JUST BROKEN LIKE ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE WILL SHOW YOU IN OTHER CITIES VIDEO.
>> I HAVE TAKE ISSUE WITH 15 MINUTES TO DALLAS, I THINK THAT'S STRETCHING [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> THROUGH THAT WHOLE LINE AND THE COUNTY.
>> IT'S THE FAR WESTERN POINT OF MESQUITE [LAUGHTER]
>> JARED, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THE COMPANY WORKS WITH YOU ATTAIN PEOPLE YOU PUT TOGETHER OR WHATEVER TO BUILD THIS.
THEY DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH, THEY BRING NET TO THE TABLE, HOW DOES THAT WORK TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS VIDEO PUT TOGETHER?
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S MOVING GRAPHICS, THERE'S GRAPHIC DESIGN.
I LEARNED SO MUCH, I THINK DENISE WOULD PROBABLY SAY THE SAME THING, BUT LIKE ACTIVATING THE MASCHINE LOGO TO DO THAT LITTLE FLAME, LIKE THERE'S LITERALLY A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR EVERYTHING.
>> DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY SPENT ON THIS VIDEO OR BALL PARK?
>> I THINK WE COULD GET SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING AFTER.
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THERE'S THE VIDEO AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE STILL GRAPHICS HERE, BUT WE'VE GOT TARGET INDUSTRIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO AFTER, THE STATION, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ON-THE-GROUND PROJECTS CERTAINLY AS 5TH STREET GETS KICKED OFF THAT MIGHT BE WORTH HELPING TELL OUR STORY AND YOU CAN SEE YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE HERE, IT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SEE.IT'S THIS IMAGE, YOU COULD CLICK ON THE VIDEO, THE COMPANY AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, THEY DO ALL SORTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA CLIPS AND SNIPPETS AND THEY CAN DO VARIANCE OF WHATEVER THE TARGET, SO MAYBE IT'S NEIGHBORHOODS, OR MAYBE IT'S INDUSTRY, OR MAYBE IT'S RETAIL AND FROM ALL THE FOOTAGE THAT THEY GET, THEY CAN CUT THE VIDEO INTO DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.
THEY'D HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER WE'D BE WORKING WITH AND WE BASICALLY PICK ALL THE CART OF WHAT WE WANTED AND THEY WOULD WORK, LIKE I SAID, THEY DO LIKE 15 DIFFERENT SITE LOCATIONS VISITS.
>> I ALWAYS LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THIS AS A LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THIS THING, HOW OFTEN IS IT UPDATED? IS IT UPDATED, I WILL SAY IN REAL-TIME MEANING, IF SOME NEW STATISTIC COMES OUT, IS THIS UPDATED AND IS THAT PART OF THE COST THAT IT WILL BE UPDATED AND OR IS IT ADDITIONAL TACK ON EACH TIME IF THERE'S AN UPDATE THAT IT'S DONE?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND SOMETHING THAT I'VE WONDERED MYSELF.
FROM A STANDPOINT OF THEY'VE CREATED THE VIDEO, THEY CAPTURED THE FOOTAGE, MAYBE THE ON-THE-GROUND STUFF ISN'T CHANGING TOO MUCH.
I MEAN, THEY'VE PROBABLY DEFINITELY HAD A SHELF LIFE.
>> OBVIOUSLY, EVOLVE LOOKS DIFFERENT TODAY THAN IT WILL IN A YEAR AND 5TH STREET WILL LOOK DIFFERENT, BUT I WONDER IF THEY GET SOME OF THE IMAGES, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND SOME OF THAT FOOTAGE, IT'S JUST REPACKAGING IT AND PERHAPS ANY AN UPDATE WOULD BE A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
AND WE CAN FIND THAT OUT WHEN WE NEED WITH THEM ON THE 29TH.
>> THEY DON'T GIVE US, I'M SORRY.
>> THEY DON'T GIVE US THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM, MEANING WE CAN'T CHANGE THIS INFORMATION OURSELVES, WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM TO CHANGE ANY UPDATES, ANY NEW STACK THAT WE WANT TO PUSH OUT THERE ON THIS TYPE OF VIDEO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO NOT US.
>> YEAH, AND HONESTLY, YOU WOULDN'T WANT ME TRYING TO DO VIDEO. [LAUGHTER]
>> WE'RE MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT SUPER, THEY'VE GOT THE HIGHLIGHTED NUMBERS OF THE SAME LABOR FORCE, A MILLION PLUS, WONDERFUL.
WHAT IF THAT CHANGES TO A MILLION DOLLARS, I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD GO BACK AND CHANGE.
>> THE TECHNOLOGY THAT EXISTS TODAY, YOU CAN'T UPDATE TEXTS IN A VIDEO LIKE THAT, SO IT WOULD BE A NEW PROJECT EVERY TIME.
JUST SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, LIKE WE HAVE A WHOLE TV STUDIO AT MY WORK JUST TO DO VIDEOS LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO EXPENSIVE TO CHANGE, SO IT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW AND MIGHT NOT BE RELEVANT, SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL.
>> BUT THEN, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IT'S EVEN LESS THAN TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
I MEAN, IF ALL THESE, IT'S NOT EVEN UP FOR IF IT'S A SIX-MONTH PROJECT, WE APPROVE IT AND DO IT IN EIGHT MONTHS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT ON THE SHOT.
>> THERE HAS TO BE A SCHEDULE THAT YOU WOULD PUT IT, SAY EVERY SIX MONTHS, I'M JUST MAKING THIS UP, YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING, MAYBE EVERY SIX MONTHS TO KEEP THIS LIVING BREATHING.
>> I THINK IT'S PROBABLY GOOD AT LEAST, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW OFTEN WE'RE GETTING OUR DATA FROM ARCGIS, IT'S ONCE A YEAR.
WE'RE UPDATING OUR TRADE SHOW COLLATERAL ONCE A YEAR.
I THINK THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT COULD EXIST.
AS FAR AS HOW YOU WHAT DATA YOU'RE PUTTING IN THERE, YOU CAN PROBABLY IMPOSTURE IT TO BE AS EVERGREEN AS POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE, BUT I THINK OUR HOME PRICES, LIKE THE RANGE OF HOME PRICE LIKE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT OUR POPULATION OR PRIMARY TRADE AREA, THOSE THINGS PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO CHANGE IN A SUBSTANTIVE ENOUGH WAY, WHERE THEY WOULD INVALIDATE THE VIDEO.
>> WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH THEM LATER THIS MONTH.
>> WE MET WITH THEM, THEY DID A PRODUCT DEMO, AND WE WALKED THROUGH THEIR QUOTE.
>> CAN I SUGGEST THAT WE WAIT, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS BEFORE EVEN, LET'S SEE WHAT OTHER INFORMATION CAN GET FROM ASKING MORE QUESTIONS TO THESE THINGS, AND THEN CAN WE, BECAUSE OTHER WORDS WRITTEN DOWN IN THE WEEKS ON THIS ITEM AND WE'VE STILL GOT BIGGER PIECE WITHIN OUR BUDGET THAT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE TO SEE WHAT THIS FITS NUMBERS WISE, I DON'T WANT TO COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN, BUT YOU STILL GOT TO MEET WITH THEM AGAIN BEFORE YOU'VE EVEN KNOW.
>> YEAH, WE'LL GO WITH THEM AND TALK THROUGH THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE NECESSARY, AND WHAT DOES THAT DO PRICE-WISE.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU LIKE THE TOP.
THEY ARE A GOOD GROUP, THEY DO VIDEOS, SO IMMEDIATE,
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WILEY VDC, I MEAN, THIS GROUP, THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE IN TEXAS CERTAINTY, SO I THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT, BUT WE CAN REPORT BACK NEXT MONTH.JUST DETAILS AGAIN, IF THIS WAS NOT AN ACTION ITEM, JUST PUT IT OUT THERE FOR YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO REACT WITH IT.
>> ONCE YOU MEET WITH THEM AGAIN NEXT MONTH, YOU MIGHT HAVE MORE CONVICTION TO SAY, WE REALLY WANT TO DO THIS, AND THIS WILL BE AN ANNUAL OR EVERY TWO-YEAR COST.
>> THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FACTOR INTO A BUDGET, THAT YOU'VE GOT THE TRUE CONVICTION TO SAY, YEAH, WE WANT TO THAN FOR US TO SAY, ALRIGHT, I GET ON BOARD WITH IT OR I CAN'T GET ON BOARD WITH IT.
>> IS THAT IT ON D2 FOR YOU, OR YOU STILL HAVE MORE ON D2?
>> THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I'LL GO SO FAST.
COMMUNITY RELATIONS AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE KEY THING HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
THESE WILL NOT COME BACK TO THE BOARD, THEY ARE BEING AUTHORIZED AS PART OF BUDGET AUTHORIZATION.
THEN YOU SEE THE MISCELLANEOUS SPONSORSHIPS SLASH COMMUNITY EVENTS, THIS IS THE SPONSORSHIP POLICY, JUST MAYBE GO THROUGH THE POLICY THEY WOULD APPLY, ONCE THAT BUCKET OF MONEY IS GONE, IT'S GONE.
IF THE ITEM IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT'S GOING THROUGH THE SPONSORSHIP POLICY OR IT WOULD HAVE TO COME AS A SEPARATE REQUEST TO THIS GROUP.
THEN I JUST NOTED HERE THAT THE CHAMBER MEMBERSHIP IS FROM A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM, SO WE HAVE THAT INCLUDED ELSEWHERE.
JUST SOME DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS JUST TO SHOW YOU ALL, GENERALLY NOT THAT INTERESTING, BUT PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, WE HAVE SOME PERIODICALS WE SUBSCRIBE TO, AMAZON PRIME, CITY SERVICES, ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
EMPLOYEE TRAINING AND TRAVEL WE CAN TALK BRIEFLY, BUT YOU CAN SEE TEXAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION EVENTS, SO SENDING THE NEEDS TO THE BASIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COURSE, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE TRAINING.
OTHER TRAININGS THAT COME UP, CERTAINLY OU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INSTITUTE, SO THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT I AM ENROLLED IN, I HAVE ONE FINAL IN-PERSON COURSE TO KNOCK OUT, AND I HAVE COMPLETED THE REQUIREMENTS.
I INTEND TO KNOCK THAT OUT THIS YEAR AND THEN THAT GETS ME CLOSER TO BEING ABLE TO SIT FOR THE CERTIFIED ECONOMIC DEVELOPER EXAM, WHICH I BELIEVE IT'S A FOUR-YEAR REQUIREMENT OF TIME SERVED BEFORE YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO GET ME CLOSER TO BEING ABLE TO SIT FOR THAT EXAM.
CERTIFICATION MAINTENANCE AT APA AGAIN, I'M A CERTIFIED PLANNER AND THEY JUST WANT YOU TO PAY THEM MONEY TO KEEP THAT CREDENTIAL, SO I'VE GOT A LOT OF TRAININGS THAT I NEED TO GET CAUGHT UP ON.
THE MISCELLANEOUS CLASS OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU SEE THERE, AND THEN BUSINESS ATTRACTION AND RECRUITMENT TRIPS, WE DISCUSSED.
PROFESSIONAL FEES, AGAIN, JUST NOTE THE ACCOUNT PLANNING, THIS IS A PLACEHOLDER FOR THE TIME BEING, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY, BUT CONSULTING FEES, SO INSENSITIVE ANALYSIS, MISCELLANEOUS CONSULTING, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'LL GET INQUIRIES, WE'LL GO TO GREAT TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO CAN BOUNCE [NOISE] THAT WE TRUST AND VALUE.
WE GET HELP RUNNING MODELS ON SOME OF THE BIGGER DEALS, SO THAT'S OF WHERE THAT ACCOUNT PLANNING IN THERE IS 150.
THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO COST TWICE THAT MUCH AS JUST FOR THE WHOLE THING, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT.
BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A CRITICAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE AND THE PREVIOUS PLAN FOR 2017 WAS MARKET-BASED, THE EDC PARTICIPATED IN FUNDING THAT SO WE WILL BE PROPOSING TO ESSENTIALLY SPLIT THAT BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND FIFTH STREET PLANNING.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THINGS ARE MOVING AHEAD.
IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET YEAR, WE PUT $50,000 IN THE FIFTH STREET PLANNING LINE, AND WE'VE GOTTEN SOME PROPOSALS BACK ANYWAY ON AN UPDATE TO THE CONCEPT SITE PLAN.
WE'RE BASICALLY AT THIS TIME THE INFLECTION POINT WHERE WE DECIDE, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY BEYOND WHAT WE'RE PROGRAMMING CURRENTLY.
I DON'T ENVISION US IN FY 2013 SPENDING ANY OF THE FIFTH STREET PLANNING MONEY FOR ANY CONCEPT PLAN.
BASICALLY, I'M PROPOSING TO ROLL THAT OVER INTO FISCAL YEAR 2024, AND THIS IS A NUMBER THAT IT COULD CHANGE SOME JUST, AND WHEN WE SAY CONCEPT PLAN,
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WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE REST OF THE PROPERTY? WHAT'S THE GROSS LEASABLE AREA GOING TO BE? HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROGRAM OUT THE OPEN SPACE.ARE WE GOING TO SELL THE PROPERTY? ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE OWNING IT AND DEVELOPING IT? THESE ARE SOME OF THE BIG QUESTIONS THAT FRANKLY WILL PROBABLY BE A COUNCIL DISCUSSION, JUST SEE WHAT THEY THINK AND WHAT THE BOARD THINKS AS FAR AS THE NEXT STEPS.
>> MR. POTTS, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, I MEAN, MAYBE I'M JUST IGNORANT BUT TELL ME WHAT IS THE BULK OF THAT COST CONSISTENT, WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE?
>> I WAS AN ACCOUNT PLANNER IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE, SO I'VE DONE SOME OF THIS WORK BUT I DIDN'T GET PAID THAT MUCH FOR IT.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE COMP PLAN A LITTLE BIT IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, BUT IT WAS A MARKET-BASED ANALYSIS, SO ESSENTIALLY THE FIRM'S PROLOGUE THAT CAME IN AND HELPED WRITE THE PLAN, THEY WERE STUDYING OUR MARKET, THEY WERE EVALUATING, WHAT DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS WOULD LEAD TO THESE CERTAIN IMPACTS? SO THE STATION, FOR EXAMPLE.
I THINK THE COMP PLAN TOLD THE STORY THAT SOME OF THE RETAIL THAT YOU WANT, YOU'VE GOT TO DO THIS IN TERMS OF PERMITTING RESIDENTIAL AND SO FORTH.
WE HAVE TO UPDATE THINGS LIKE OUR LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS, EVALUATING WHEN OUR BUILD-OUT WILL BE LOOKING AT OUR LAND USE AND ESTABLISHING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO FROM A TARGET INDUSTRY STANDPOINT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO DO FROM A RETAIL COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT.
BUT WHAT CHANGES WOULD CONCEIVABLY NEED TO BE MADE IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THAT? IT JUST ENSURES WE GROW IN THAT.
>> HOW IS THIS SPLIT DETERMINED BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE EDC FUND?
>> IT WILL PROBABLY BE A 50/50 SPLIT.
>> LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST A PLACEHOLDER.
AGAIN, IT WAS IN THERE IN THE PACKAGE.
>> WELL, I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING SOMEBODY WHO JUST SAY IT'S THIS PERCENT NOT THAT.
>> SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SAY THIS IS A 50/50 SPLIT.
>> [BACKGROUND] PLAN NEEDS TO BE, WE HAD A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A VERY COMPREHENSIVE WIND DOWN LAST TIME, AND WE JUST NEED AN UPDATE, AND THEN THAT WOULDN'T BE AS EXPENSIVE.
BUT WHAT I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR AND I THINK THE REST OF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T DISAGREE, IS A VERY DETAILED PLAN FOR 78.
WHERE THEY LOOK AT IT FROM A MARKET STANDPOINT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE-WISE, DEVELOPMENT-WISE, FOR THESE PARCELS TO BE USABLE AND TO GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON THAT FRONT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO? IT'S A BIG PIECE. I THINK THE GENERAL IDEA IS IT WILL BE AN UPDATE FOR SOME AREAS OF TOWN THAT MAY BE DOWN BY THE STATION THAT ARE STILL VACANT, WE HAVE SOME LAND USE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED, BUT THEN A LOT OF THE EXPENSE IS GOING TO BE THAT 78 CORRIDOR.
NONE OF THIS IS SENTENCE DOWN, WE'RE STILL HAVING POLICY DISCUSSIONS AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND EDC, AND THE CITY MANAGER.
I SUSPECT THE BREAKDOWN WILL COME DOWN TO HOW MUCH OF THAT WHOLE PLAN IS THE 78 CORRIDOR COST SHARE, BUT IT'S REALLY SQUISHY.
>> I GUESS I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS SOME FORMULA TO IT OR IT WAS ARBITRARY.
I THINK THE IDEA IS TO KEEP IT TOWARDS THE STUFF THAT'S REALLY ECONOMICALLY REDEVELOPMENT ON 78 AND THEN THE REST WOULD BE ON THEIR OWN FUNDING.
[OVERLAPPING] TO KNOW HOW THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BREAK DOWN.
>> YOU HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL STUFF THAT BASED ON PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS TO COUNSEL, I THINK EVEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
THE DIRECTION HAS BEEN OKAY LIKE LET'S KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL.
REALLY IT'S MORE, I THINK, CORRECT ME, COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT YOU CAN HAVE SOME POCKET AREAS AND SO MAYBE IT'S MORE SMALL AREA OF PLANNING, GETTING MORE INTO THE SPECIFICITY.
THE CATALYST AREAS RIGHT FROM THE 2017 PLAN WERE IDENTIFIED AND DOING EITHER REEVALUATE CATALYST AREAS.
WHAT WE WERE ASSUMING ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN FROM A GROWTH STANDPOINT BACK IN 2017, WHAT'S BEEN REALIZED IN THE AREA.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO UPDATE YOUR COMP PLAN, I THINK THE BEST PRACTICES ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS.
I THINK THE STATE REQUIRES A COMP PLAN UPDATE EVERY 10.
BUT AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THAT THE SEXY COMP PLAN IS INTEGRAL IN DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE SEEN.
>> HENRY, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> WELL, MY QUESTION IS, IS THE 150 THE TOTAL OR 150 IS JUST FOR [OVERLAPPING]
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>> THIS IS A PLACE HOLDER BASED ON WHAT WE ASSUME WHAT THE PREVIOUS COMP PLAN COSTS.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY.
THAT THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLY 50% OF WHAT THAT COSTS.
>> I THINK THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFTING, THE CITY INITIATED REZONING AND THE PDB RECORD OR THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT PEOPLE LIKE THAT, THEY'RE GOOD.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SOME OF THE OTHER PART.
>> IT'S WHAT MADE THE 2017 PLAN SUCCESSFUL AND PARTLY WHAT MADE IT COST AS MUCH AS IT DID.
IN 2017, WAS IT INCLUDED SOME STUFF THAT THAT'S DONE NOW.
I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AND THEY MIGHT BE TWEAKS, BUT I CAN'T.
THE MAIN OUTLIERS ARE IT'S STUFF OFF A PLEASANT VALLEY.
WE HAVE HOLES IN OUR LAND USE PLAN THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLED THEM PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, BUT WE DON'T OWN IT AND YOU CAN'T CALL SOMEBODY ELSE'S LAND PARK AND OPEN SPACE, SO WE HAVE TO UPDATE THAT.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOUR LAND USE PLANS WILL CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CAN'T DO COUNTERPARTS PLAN TO DO.
IT'S ALL. STATE LIKES TO HAVE LOTS OF RULES ON WHAT ORDER YOU GO.
>> I THINK IT'S PAID FOR BY IT THE FUND DRIVE.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S WHY IT [LAUGHTER] YOU CAN HURT SOMEBODY IF YOU PRINT THAT OFF.
>> SOFTWARE, THE CHANGE HERE FROM WHAT WENT OUT WITH THE PACKET, AGAIN, NOTHING THERE SHOULD BE SURPRISING.
WE DID ELIMINATE THE DATA ACTUAL SUBSCRIPTION BECAUSE OUR LIBRARY HAS A SUBSCRIPTION TO IT, BASICALLY THE SAME THING.
ANYBODY WITH A LIBRARY CARD CAN ACCESS IT FOR FREE, SO WE QUIT PAYING FOR OUR VERSION OF IT.
>> THIS REPRESENT LIKE AS FAR AS THE SOFTWARE REPURCHASE, THE TOOLS THIS WERE COVERED NOW YOU THINK?
>> YEAH, THIS IS IT AND THE RED THERE YOU SEE THE SITE SELECTION TOOL.
AFTER SOME EXTENSIVE RESEARCH THAT DENISE HAS BEEN DOING ON SITE SELECTION TOOLS AND SO FORTH, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF THE ONE WE WANT TO GO WITH GIS WEB TECH.
OBVIOUSLY A SITE SELECTION TOOL, IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT A SITE SELECTORS LIKE WHAT COMMERCIAL SPACES THEY'RE IN TOWN.
OR IT COULD BE IN THE CASE OF GIS WEB TECH PULL UP ALL KINDS OF LAYERS, WHAT'S THE POWER LINES SITUATION.
DEMOGRAPHICS, ALL KINDS OF REALLY POWERFUL MAPPING STUFF THERE.
WAS APPEALING TO US ABOUT THIS COMPANY IS THEY USE THE SAME DATA THAT OUR COMMUNITY ANALYST, WHICH WE PAY FOR, WE GET ALL OF OUR DATA FOR TRADE SHOWS AND EVERYTHING.
IT'S ALL THE SAME INFORMATION, IT'D BE CONSISTENT.
THEN WE SIMPLIFY AS OPPOSED TO US TRYING TO GO IN AND MANAGE [NOISE] LISTINGS, WHICH WOULD BE PROBABLY A FULL-TIME JOB IN AND OF ITSELF.
THIS COMPANY, THEY DO IT FOR YOU AND IT'S PRETTY APPEALING ADD-ON.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS ANNA.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S THESE BROCHURES THAT GET CREATED CONTACT INFORMATION, PHONE NUMBERS, PRETTY ROBUST STUFF IN IT.
BASICALLY, IT'S A CUSTOMER SERVICE TOOL, ANYBODY CAN GET IN THERE AND WONDERED THINGS WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL THE CITY NECESSARILY.
>> JUST ON THE SUBSCRIPTIONS, SO YOU FEEL THERE'S NO EXTRAS OR IF WE USE SOMETHING MORE THAT GOES UP AT ALL, IS THAT COVERING IT ALL? IS IT THAT EXPERIENCES WITH MY COMPANY.
GOD HELP YOU IF YOU HAVE TO ADD ONE SEAT WHICH MEANS 20, WHICH MEANS 20,000.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE ALWAYS ASK THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS A COST TO ADD ANOTHER SEAT.
YOU CAN SEE CO-STAR TO ADD DENISE TO GIVE HER A C, THERE IS A COST.
THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE NOT THERE ISN'T.
>> ANY OTHER EXTRA AS IF THEY HAD SOME OTHER WHISPERING REPORTING AND WERE COVERED?
>> YEAH, SO EVERYTHING IN THERE THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, WE GET FULL SUITE OF STUFF AND THE ADD-ON AS FAR AS THE SITE SELECTION TOOL GOES, WHICH I'LL TELL YOU THEY'RE HOOKING THIS UP ON PRICE A LITTLE BIT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THIS.
THE ADD-ON IS RECENT REVIVE, SO THE COMPANY THAT'S MANAGING THE LISTINGS AND DOING ALL OF THAT.
>> CAN YOU REALLY? ONLY FOR 600 A YEAR, THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
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WE MUST NOT BE DOING AN EXTRA STUFF WITH THAT.>> IT'S JUST THE CREATIVE CLOUD.
>> [LAUGHTER] THAT ONE KILLS YOU IF YOU START LIKE REALLY YOU WANT PICTURES TOO.
>> CREATE CLUBS ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY COOL BECAUSE YOU PAY ONE FEE AND YOU GET ALL THEIR PRODUCTS.
>> YEAH, YOU GET THERE. THAT'S THE THING THEY DID, RIGHT.
MOVING EVERYTHING TO CLOUD, SO YOU GET THE WHOLE SUITE BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR YEARLY.
>> IF YOU STAY WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES?
>> THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE. WEBPAGE SERVICES, AGAIN, JUST TO SAY THIS AMOUNT WENT DOWN QUITE A BIT BECAUSE WE'VE PAID FOR THE WEBSITE UPDATE IN 2022 AND 2023.
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON DISCUSSION?
>> WE WOULD BE ABLE TO UPDATE IT IN-HOUSE.
>> YES MA'AM. YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE SANDBOX ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS, I'VE LEARNED THIS.
BUT ONCE YOU GET INTO THE SANDBOX ENVIRONMENT IT'S MUCH HARDER TO EDIT BIG CHANGES AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING OFF OF PDF SHEETS, MARKING THEM UP, DOING THE BIG.
DENISE HAS BEEN WORKING ON COPY FOR LIKE WHY SACHSE? ONCE ALL OF THAT IS SQUARED THEY'LL MAKE THE CHANGES.
WE ACTUALLY GET THE NEW ROUND OF DEMOGRAPHIC DATA JULY 1ST.
WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE ALL OF THAT AND THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO PASS THAT LINK ALONG TO YOU ALL TO GET IT.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ON THE BACK-END BECAUSE THE SANDBOX DOESN'T EVEN EXIST YET BUT CERTAINLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PLUG IN.
>> MR. POTTER, ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS $100,000 LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT THING SEPARATELY, CORRECT?
>> YES. THERE'S A TOTALLY SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT.
AGAIN IF THERE'S QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, WHATEVER.
>> KEEP THEM ALL ANSWERS FROM THE BOARD AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I DO PART.
>> JUST DISREGARD IT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T COST US ANYTHING, NOW IT'S COSTING US.
>> THAT'S IT. THAT'S A FINANCE QUESTION [LAUGHTER].
I THINK THAT IT'S JUST A WAY TO ALLOCATE BASED ON USE OF THE KINDS OF DIFFERENT MODEL THAT WE'RE DOING AND SO EVERYBODY PAYS INTO THE COST OF USING IT.
IT MORE ESSENTIALLY RENTING IT.
>> YOU DROPPED IT OR SOMETHING NOW YOU HAVE TO PAY?
>> I DON'T THINK SO. [LAUGHTER]
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? I DO HAVE MR. HOLBOKE THAT HAS A COMMENT OR WANTS TO.
>> ALREADY HELD ON PAGE 511, OAK RIDGE CIRCLE, TOP OF THE HILL.
IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE FOR THE REOCCURRING SPONSORSHIPS THAT DON'T COME BACK UP OF A SQUINT AND HARD AND I COULDN'T CATCH ONE NUMBER.
IS THAT FOR THE LITTLE STICKER ON THE SIDE OF THE TRUCK? THAT ONE IS KIND OF PONDERING FOR ME.
WE'RE GETTING 100 BY 50 MINERAL FREE AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THAT'S COMING THROUGH EDC. THAT'S ALL.
>> MR. KINSEY, YOU HAD A QUESTION OR ANOTHER STATEMENT OR SOMETHING.
I APOLOGIZE I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE.
>> ACTUALLY FIRST A BROAD QUESTION JARED, ON THE PROCESS THAT'S LEFT WHERE TONIGHT WE'RE GOING OVER SOME COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YOU SAID A PROOF.
>> YEAH. SINCE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN MOTION IT WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT TO IT EVEN ADOPTED THIS EVENING AND SO I THINK WHAT WE CAN ENVISION IS THIS BEING ANOTHER ITEM FOR YOU ALL IN JULY TO SEE AGAIN, REACT TO ITS POSSIBLE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ADOPT IT AT THE JULY MEETING.
IF NOT WE CAN AT LEAST JUST DISCUSS WHATEVER MAYBE THE CHANGES WE'RE AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.
THEN WE HAVE UNTIL BASICALLY OUR AUGUST MEETING SUBJECT TO MEETING THE BUDGET CALENDAR STUFF, THAT A DROP DEAD DATE IF YOU WILL TO GET IT ADOPTED BEFORE COUNCIL.
>> I THINK I GOT ASKED BY HIS MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
WE'LL GO OVER IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE GRANTS VERSUS INCENTIVES FOR SMALL BUSINESS.
ISN'T THAT A ROLLER INTO THE MONEY AMOUNT?
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THEN AS FAR AS LIKE OUR ASR REVENUE, ONE THING IS WE DID I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT THREE.I THINK THERE WAS LIKE WHAT, THREE OR FOUR MAIN AREAS THAT MONIES THAT. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I THOUGHT THE ONE I SAW IN THERE WAS AND I KNOW WE GET THIS EVERY YEAR WAS THE GST GRANTS.
>> I KNOW WHAT THAT WE DO HAVE SOME BOUNDARIES AROUND HOW WE CAN USE THAT MONEY AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS FOR SOMETHING THEY'D REINVEST BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY OR BUSINESS.
I KNOW LAST YEAR WE JUST SO WE GOT THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE ALLOCATING FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW PART OF THAT COULD BE USED FOR BUSINESS EDUCATION AND SOME THINGS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER.
>> WELL, IF I'M SEEING IN THAT 10,000 WHAT PART OF THAT GOES WHEN YOU GET THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION TENTS ON TRIVIA GOLF TRUNK, THOSE ARE SOLVE IT.
>> SURE. I KNOW ONE PROTON IT IS.
BY THE WAY, HERE'S 10,000 BUCKS.
JUST LOOK AT THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO AND THAT IS THAT FINE? OR WOULD WE BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HELP BUSINESS OUT AND POSSIBLY A COMBINATION WITH BOTH BUSINESSES AND MAYBE LIKE A TECH CENTER OR SOMETHING.
>> THAT REALLY GOES TO DECCA. SOMETHING OR.
>> SOMETHING, WHATEVER THAT IS.
>> I CAN FOLLOW UP JUST REAL QUICK ON THE DECCA PIECE.
SO WE GOT THE PROPOSAL FROM THEM.
THEY WANTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT A VIRTUAL STUDENTS STORE OR THEY WERE GOING TO BUY SOME MACHINERY.
ESSENTIALLY THE DISTRICT TOLD US THAT IT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE GRANT FUNDING AND SO WE RELATE THAT BACK TO THE PRINCIPLE INTO THE DECCA ADVISOR AND I THINK WHERE WE LEFT IT WAS THEY WOULD CONTEMPLATE MEDIUM OR SUITABLE PROGRAM THAT WOULD IN FACT BE ELIGIBLE FOR.
>> SURE, I AM NOT ACTUALLY WOULD LEAD INTO WHAT I'M ASKING IS I KNOW AGAIN, WE KNOW THERE WERE SOME RULES, I DON'T THINK WE ALL KNOW THOSE RULES, SO I'M LOOKING WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD GO.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE MISSING OR MAYBE WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER IN HOW WE ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.
>> IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED WITH, I CAN'T THINK OF THE REP'S NAME BUT THE MOU WITH THE DISTRICT GOES BEFORE THE CISD BOARD, THEY APPROVE IT AND THEN THERE'S A PROCESS TO IT.
IT'S PROBABLY THIS YEAR, WE WERE TOO LATE LAST YEAR BUT BEFORE THEY ADOPT IT, ANY EDITS OR CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME CLEANUP ITEMS THAT WE CAN DO WITH JUST CLARIFYING SOME HOW WE CAN USE IT.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'LL BE DOING.
I THINK USING IT FOR SUPPORTING BUSINESS STUDENTS I THINK GENERALLY IS THE TIMBRE THAT WE WANT AND SO IT'S JUST A WAY TO, HOW CAN WE DO THAT EFFECTIVELY.
AGAIN, THE DECCA ADVISOR WAS GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH BASE ONCE HE'D BEEN ABLE TO THINK THROUGH OTHER MEANS FOR THAT.
>> WE DO HAVE THE TECH CENTER BUT THEN WE HAVE OTHER THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE WOULD WANT TO GET INTO HOW WE BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING BUSINESS AND WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE SCHOOLS.
JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN MAYBE HAVE A BETTER STORY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE.
JUST MY OPINION, I'M OKAY TOO IF WE DO THAT AGAIN, GIVE ME 10, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU 10 BACK.
THAT'S OKAY TOO BUT I WOULD PUT THAT OUT THERE AS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM?
>> I USED TO COPE WITH PIECES OF FEEDBACK FOR ME.
THAT'S WHERE YOUR GIFTS AND SO FORTH COME IN, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE 10,000 WAS FOR THAT, CORRECT? I THINK THAT'S-
>> YEAH. IT'S DESCRIBED AS IF WE WERE TO HOST ROUND TABLE EVENTS LIKE ANYTHING TO SUPPORT BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEN I DO LIKE THE FACT YOU BROKE OUT THE FEW RELATIONS, THOSE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.
THAT WAY, IN WHATEVER EXCESS SOMEBODY COMES TO US, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH FOR THE WORK WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
I'M GLAD THAT'S THERE. I DO, ALL WAY THEY JUST SEE HOW THEY DO THIS COMPREHENSIVE THING AS A BIG NUMBER.
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I DON'T KNOW THAT IN REALITY, DO WE HAVE REALLY ANY SAY IN THAT? REALISTICALLY OR IS THAT JUST THAT'S WHAT IT IS AND THAT'S JUST PART OF OUR BUDGET.I GET IT BUT IT'S [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S REALLY BAD. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO ENTAIL, LIKE WHAT IS EVEN GOING TO LOOK LIKE OR WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST.
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FINE [OVERLAPPING].
>> I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A SAY IN THIS.
>> THAT'S FINE. THOSE ARE YOUR BIG NUMBERS AND THEN A GRANT WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT.
I'M GLAD WE BROKE THESE THINGS OUT.
I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY TIME QUESTIONING AT LEAST PART OUR BUDGET IS THERE SO IT'S GOOD.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> YES. ALSO AS FAR AS I GUESS WITH THE REVENUE, AGAIN, I'LL PUT THIS OUT THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR IT.
BUT WHEN WE DO START TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE BUSINESS GRANT, RETENTION INCENTIVES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT IN RELATION TO ME, WHAT OUR CURRENT BUSINESS POOL IS, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHO THE TOP 50 COMPANIES ARE WITH THE TAX PRODUCE.
THEY'RE FEEDING THAT REVENUE INTO THERE.
IF THAT'S 50 OR 100, TO SEE WHAT BUSINESSES ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT IN THE COMMUNITY AND JUST TO SEE TWO OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD HELP ME WITH, LIKE WHEN WE WANT TO CONSIDER INCENTIVES OR GRANTS OR ANYTHING.
ONE, DO WE SEE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MAYBE HELP BEEF UP? OR MAYBE WE SEE, OH, THIS IS A STRONG AREA, DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT AND KIND OF PLAY OFF THAT STRENGTH AS WELL.
I THINK HAVING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR REVENUE STREAM THERE, IT'D BE GOOD.
THE OTHER PART IS WE ARE SHOWING THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE AND THEN ALSO OTHER LIQUID ASSETS, JUST HAVING THAT BROKEN OUT MORE SO WE KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH AND NO COMMENT WAS MADE.
WELL, WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST SPEND EVERYTHING WE GET IN? I THINK PART OF THAT IS JUST KNOWING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
THEN OVERLAYING THAT WITH THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE TO KNOW, WELL IT'S PROBABLY GOOD THAT WE GO AHEAD AND HOLD THAT FOR MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO OR WE ARE STRATEGIC IN HOW THEY WERE SPENDING THAT MONEY OR INVESTING THAT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS.
I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE SOME OF YOU WERE ASKING OURSELVES QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'RE SOMEWHAT BEING ARBITRARY AND THE NUMBER.
IS 100,000 GOOD? I DON'T KNOW IS THAT TOO MUCH OR TOO LITTLE? UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE POSSIBLY IMPACTING AND INFLUENCING.
THEN ALSO RELATING THAT WITH HERE'S THE INDUSTRY YOU'RE THAT LOOKING AT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING HOW WE CAN DO THAT BETTER.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TIKTOK BIT ON THE BIO SECTOR.
I MEAN, DO WE REALLY WANT TO DO THAT? THERE'S A LOT WRAPPED UP INTO ANYONE INCLUDING EVER DECREASING AMOUNT OF PROPERTY THAT WE CAN USE.
THEN WHAT IS IT THAT WOULD ATTRACT THOSE BUSINESSES IN OR WHAT WOULD IT BE WILLING TO DO? HAVING THAT INFORMATION ABOUT OUR REVENUES AND THEN OUR STRATEGY WOULD BE GOOD IN OUR BUDGET.
>> THANK YOU. MR. KINSEY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT ITEM D2?
[3. Hold a discussion regarding a local business grant program.]
HOLD A DISCUSSION REGARDING A LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.[NOISE] MR. HOLBOKE, I'M THINKING YOU WANT TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU.
>> A LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.
IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE WE'VE DISCUSSED.
ACTUALLY NOVEMBER 17TH, 2022 WAS WHEN WE LAST TALKED ABOUT LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE LANDED WELL, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.
PURPOSE OF PRESENTATION, BACKGROUND.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROPOSED PROGRAM, POTENTIAL FRAMEWORK.
GO THROUGH SOME DETAILS IN THE COURSE, DISCUSSING QUESTIONS.
HAVE ANY DISCUSSION. BACKGROUND. CURRENTLY, ALL REQUESTS FOR INCENTIVES AND GRANT FUNDING ARE TREATED THE SAME.
IF SOMEBODY IS REQUESTING 20,000 FOR A GREASE TRAP, THAT'S TREATED THE SAME AS SOMEBODY THAT'S REQUESTING $400,000 FOR A SALES TAX REIMBURSEMENT.
THEY GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION BACK IN NOVEMBER 2022 ABOUT A LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.
NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. WE DID HAVE GREAT DISCUSSION.
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WE ESSENTIALLY PUT SOME PARAMETERS TOGETHER AND THE BOARD, ESSENTIALLY DIRECTED US TO COME BACK WITH MORE SPECIFICITY IN TERMS OF OKAY, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? WE DID NOT HAVE ANY BUDGET AUTHORIZATION IN FY2023, LAST TWO BUDGET YEARS WE'VE LEFT THIS LINE ITEM BLANK.WE HAVE NOT USED IT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO REALLY GET A POLICY IN PLACE.
OF COURSE, JUST I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GET INTO THIS, BUT THE SMALL BUSINESS GRANT, THAT LINE ITEM THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED DURING COVID WE'RE GOING TO FREEZE.
THERE'LL BE NO MONEY IN THAT ACCOUNT, IT'LL BE FROZEN, BUT THAT'S SOME OF THE BACKGROUND.
WE'RE CONTEMPLATING AS PART OF THE 2024 BUDGET, $100,000 LINE ITEM.
THIS GOES BACK TO THE EDC GOALS DOCUMENT.
IT REFERENCES AND ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM.
WHAT WE'RE THINKING IS FOCUSING A LITTLE BIT ON THE HIGHWAY 78 CORRIDOR.
ESSENTIALLY TO MAKE IT EASY, YOU'VE GOT THE TIRZ 3 BOUNDARY.
THAT'S AN ESTABLISHED GEOGRAPHICAL POLYGON.
LOOK TO POTENTIALLY EXCLUDE THE WOODBRIDGE CORNERS AREA, WHICH IS BLACKROCK AND NOTHING AGAINST THEM.
THOSE ARE JUST NEWER BUILDINGS.
IF YOU HAVE A LIMITED BUCKET OF MONEY NOTE THAT THEY COULD HAVE COME BACK AND REQUEST AN INCENTIVE, BUT FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL FOCUSING MORE ON THE REDEVELOPMENT ALONG HIGHWAY 78 SO THE OLDER MORE ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES.
MAXIMUM WELL, SO LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET IS SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
A COUPLE OF THINGS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN.
EDC BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADOPT THE POLICY.
CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADOPT THE POLICY.
EDC BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THEN CITY COUNCIL BY ADOPTING THE OVERALL CITY BUDGET, WE WOULD GET THE AUTHORITY TO DO THE GRANT PROGRAM.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING MATCHING GRANT OF $25,000 FOR EACH APPLICANT AND CAN BE STAFFING [NOISE] SUBJECT TO MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROGRAM.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REQUIRING CITY COUNCIL BOARD APPROVAL HERE, JUST IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET AUTHORITY AND POLICY PIECE.
BUT A MATCHING FUND GRANT REQUEST OVER 25,000 WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE.
THEY GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS.
WE WILL JUST TREAT IT LIKE A STAND-ALONE INCENTIVE.
THEN ANYTHING REQUESTING SALES TAX REIMBURSEMENT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ADMINISTRATIVELY.
IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE BOARD AND TO THE COUNCIL AND THAT'LL BE THE PROCESS THERE.
STAFF WOULD REPORT OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND EDC BOARD AS GRANTS WERE AWARDED.
>> ON MATCHING GRANT, YOU'RE SAYING IF WE INCREASE COSTS 40, WE PAY 20, THEY PAY 20.
THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN BY MATCHING, CORRECT?
>> YEAH. OUR PIECE WOULD NOT EVER EXCEED 25.
BUT IT CAN'T BE HEY, THIS THING COST $25,000.
>> NO, THE BUSINESS OWNER IS GOING TO PICK UP HALF AND WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP HALF. THAT'S RIGHT.
>> YEAH, I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS THAT IF THE BOARD WANTS TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> [OVERLAPPING] UNDERSTANDING IT.
>> YEAH, IT'S CONTEMPLATED AS A MATCHING. YOU HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME.
YOU DO YOUR PIECE, WHATEVER YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS ARE, AND THEN WE WOULD MATCH IT NOT TO EXCEED 25.
CERTAINLY, IF THERE'S INTEREST IN NOT HAVING IT BE A MATCH, I THINK WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
IF WE WERE TO JUST SAY YOU HAVE A GREASE TRAP YOU INSTALL IT.
PROOF TO US YOU'VE INSTALLED IT, GIVES US THE RECEIPTS, AND WE REIMBURSE YOU.
>> WHAT IS GOING BACK YOU GO BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE WHERE IT SAYS THE STAFF CAN APPROVE AS LONG AS IT FITS.
IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, JUST EVEN 50/50 SPLIT ON THE MATCH, STAFF CAN APPROVE THAT THEY WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
IT'S LIKE I CAN'T, I CAN ONLY COVER 25% OF THE COST.
I NEED 75% OF THE COST FROM YOU GUYS.
WELL, THAT DOESN'T FIT THE PROGRAM.
YOU CAN APPROVE THAT IT'S HALF, MAYBE THAT HAS TO COME TO THE BOARD TO SAY, WE THINK IT'S VIABLE ENOUGH GOING BACK TO TEDDY'S POINT, HEY, THERE ARE BUSINESS, IT DOES GENERATE SOME GOOD TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
THIS WOULD HELP THEM SOME MORE.
POTENTIALLY HELP BUMP THEM UP.
GREAT, I'M WILLING TO PICK UP 75% IF THEY'RE GOING TO 25, SOMETHING LIKE I CAN SEE WHERE THIS FLEXIBILITY THERE.
>> DEFINITELY. THE LINE ITEM WOULD BE IN THE BUDGET.
OF COURSE, WE CREATE A STRAIGHTFORWARD, THIS WAS I THINK THE CONVERSATION.
MAKE IT STRAIGHTFORWARD, SIMPLE FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND COMPLETE,
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NOT TO BE AN OVERLY CUMBERSOME PROCESS.APPLICATION REVIEWED BY STAFF FOR COMPLETENESS AND THEN ESSENTIALLY, UPON MEETING THE CRITERIA OF THE ADOPTED PROGRAM, WE COULD ADMINISTRATIVELY AUTHORIZE THAT FUNDING.
I'VE ACTUALLY HAD ONE CALL WITH LEGAL ON THIS JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING OUT OF OUR SKIS IN THE WAY WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY DO IT IS AS YOU KNOW, WE HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS WHEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE LEGALLY HAVE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SO IF THAT LINE ITEM WAS APPROVED, WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR $100,000 LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND THEN THAT IS WHAT GIVES US THAT WE WAIT 60 DAYS AND THEN WE HAVE THE FUNDING AUTHORITY TO DO IT, SO THAT'D BE A FUTURE PUBLIC HEARING AT A BOARD MEETING IF AND AFTER APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
WE GET THE POLICY IN PLACE AT SOME POINT, APPROVE IT, TAKE THE COUNCIL AND THEN BUDGET ALREADY, AND ALL OF THIS CAN HAPPEN IN THIS BUDGET WINDOW SO THAT'S THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE WORKING UNDER.
OBVIOUSLY, WOULD HAVE TO BE QUALIFIED INFRASTRUCTURE THAT STAYS WITH THE BUILDING.
PROBABLY I'M NOT GOING TO BUY SOMEBODY LIKE OUTDOORS.
>> TAKE THE CHAIRS. [LAUGHTER]
>> PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BUY SOMEBODY THEIR HAMBURGER MEAT.
>> WELL, I MEAN, A SIGN STAYS WITH THE BUILDING, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY USABLE BY THE NEXT TENANTS. HOW IS THAT?
>> IT'S TRUE. THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND I'LL TELL YOU, SO THIS GOES BACK TO IN THE PREVIOUS 2012 PROGRAM THAT WAS, I THINK WE SENT TO YOU ALL, THERE WAS THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT PIECE AND THEN THERE WAS A SEPARATE SIGN IMPROVEMENT REPLACEMENT PIECE.
IT WAS LIKE, I THINK THE PURPOSE WAS TO REPLACE DERELICT POLE SIGNS ALONG THE HIGHWAY 78 CORRIDOR OR THEY DON'T LOOK GREAT AND SO TO YOUR POINT, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE, THE SIGN THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO APPLY TO THE NEXT PERSON BUT IS THERE A JUSTIFICATION AT BEAUTIFICATION, GRANT JUSTIFICATION THERE FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE.
THIS IS LIMITED TO A SALES TAX GENERATING OR PROPERTY TAX GENERATING ENTITY.
NOT THAT SOMEBODY COULDN'T COME FOR REQUESTS THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS, BUT THIS PIECE SPECIFICALLY IS FOR COMMERCIAL.
IF WE WERE TO EXCEED $100,000, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ASKED LIKE WHY 100,000? WELL, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO PUT $500,000 IN THERE.
IT'S A NEW PROGRAM. WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PROMOTE IT LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS IN NOVEMBER, THERE'S GOING TO BE A GROUND CAMPAIGN, GOING INTO BUSINESSES, TALKING ABOUT THIS.
CERTAINLY THE SOCIAL MEDIA PIECE.
IF WE APPROVE THE LINE ITEM, WE WANT PEOPLE TO USE IT.
THE GOAL BEING TO IMPROVE THE HIGHWAY 78 CORRIDOR SO ASSUMING THAT YOU HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT COME AND DO $25,000 WORTH OF MATCHING GRANTS, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY SUCCESSFUL AND IT MIGHT BE YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT 10,000 HERE, 5,000 THERE BUT I THINK 100 IS PROBABLY A GOOD PLACE TO START AND WE CAN CERTAINLY EVALUATE IT IN FUTURE YEARS, BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
CAN RECONSIDER AN AMOUNT TO APPROVE FOR THIS LINE IN A FUTURE BUDGET YEAR? LET'S SAY WE APPROVE IT AT 100 AND 2024 AND YOU GUYS ARE LIKE THAT'S TOO HIGH.
WELL, THAT MONEY ROLLS BACK INTO THE FUND BALANCE AND THEN FOR THE NEXT YEAR WE CAN REQUEST A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OR IT COULD JUST BE RECURRING 100 THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL OF THAT.
THEN AGAIN, WE'RE RECEIVING AUTHORIZATION TO ADMINISTER BY CITY COUNCIL APPROVING THE EDC BUDGET AND HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING SO.
>> SORRY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND IT GOES TO THE SIGNAGE OR THINGS THAT TECHNICALLY DO NOT STAY WITH A BUILDING.
THE NORMAL EDC PROCESS FOR INCENTIVES OR GRANTS IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT STAYS IN THE BUILDING.
WHAT IF THAT BUSINESS THE ONLY THING THEY NEED IS THAT SIGN IMPROVED AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE FULL FUNDS? ARE WE ELIMINATING A LOT OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES,
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ESPECIALLY IN THE 78 CORRIDOR? WE'RE TRYING TO BEAUTIFY 78.I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNCIL HAVE DISCUSSED THAT.
IF THE SIGNAGE IT DOES NOT STAY WITH THE BUILDING BECAUSE.
>> WHAT IT DOES IS IT'S A NEW BUSINESS IS PROBABLY GOING TO CHANGE IT.
>> BUT IF YOU WERE GOING FROM A POLE SIGN TO A MONUMENT SIGN, THE MONUMENT IS STILL THERE AND YOU'RE CHANGING THE SIGN ON IT.
>> IS THE FACADE SIGNAGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WON'T STAY.
>> THAT WON'T SAY. WHAT WE WILL PAY FOR IN THAT ASPECT IS THINGS THAT WILL STAY AND THEN THEY CAN COVER THE PART OF WHAT CAN STAY.
IF WE ARE MAKING THAT, I GUESS WE SHOULD MAKE SURE IT'S DETAILED, MORE EXPLANATION.
>> YOU CAN REPLACE YOUR NEW SIGN BECAUSE I MEAN, IF THERE'S ALREADY A MONUMENT LIKE A PILLAR OR [OVERLAPPING]
>> DID YOU JUST SAY SIGNAGE? INSTEAD OF SAYING SIGNAGE SAY REPLACEMENT OR UPGRADE A POLE SIGNS.
>> JUST CARVE IT OUT INTO THAT.
>> IT'S GOT TO BE SPECIFIC POLE SIGN, MONUMENT SIGN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FACADES SIGNAGE, IT'S ON THE BUILDING THAT GOES AWAY.
>> WELL, AND WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO BE USED BY THE NEXT TENANT SO THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH IT.
MAYBE IF IT'S THE REMOVAL OF FACADE SIGN, I KNOW THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE SOMETIMES BECAUSE WHEN YOU LEASE THE SPACE, SOMETIMES THE SIGN IS STILL THERE FROM THE PREVIOUS TENANT, AND YOU HAVE TO PAY FIVE OR $6,000 JUST TO GET IT TAKEN OFF OF YOUR BUILDING BEFORE YOU PUT UP A NEW ONE.
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS SO DO WE NOT REQUIRE IN OUR CODE SOMEWHERE THE REMOVAL OF FACADE SIGNAGE TO DE-IDENTIFY THAT.
>> THEY CAN MOVE AWAY, I'M NOT TOUCHED TO SIGN.
>> I WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY SOMETHING PHILOSOPHICALLY WHEN I WAS DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE CITY MANAGER IN GENERAL, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN GET LOST IN THE WEEDS ON AND I KEPT TAKING A STEP BACK AND SAYING AS LONG AS THE STATE LAW, THE TYPE B CORPORATION ALLOWS IT, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT TO STAFF DISCUSSION OR STAFF'S DISCRETION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK MAYBE THAT THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE BUT IF SOMEBODY CAME FORWARD WITH A GREAT PLAN AND THEN I SAW IT AND I WAS LIKE, THAT IS OUT.
I DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE IT TODAY AND I THINK LEAVING SOME OF THIS TO STAFF DISCRETION ON WHETHER IT'S THE SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY NO VERSUS TAKING DOWN AN ICKY POLE SIGN AND PUTTING UP A MONUMENT, I DIDN'T WANT TO START PUTTING MY STAMP ON TOO MANY THINGS BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT EVERYTHING THAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO WANT TO DO OR ASK FOR, I MEAN, GUESS, BUT I'M NOT THE SPECIFICS.
>> BUT LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE 78 IS AN EXAMPLE.
DO WE ALLOW POLL SIGNAGE ANYMORE?
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD EVEN WANT TO HAVE AND SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY OR TYPE B OR WHATEVER.
>> WILL BE REPLACING IT WITH A NEW SIGN.
>> SOME OF THAT IS INHERENT JUST BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T ALLOW THOSE THINGS.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE GOING TO GO ALONG WITH WHATEVER OUR CODES ARE.
IT HAS TO ALIGN, IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING WE CAN COME UP WITH REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU MAY WANT TO OR WHATEVER.
>> THAT STAFF HAS SOME DISCRETION ON WHAT THEY'RE SAYING YES TO AS WELL LIKE IT COULD TECHNICALLY FIT AND YOU COULD GO, THAT'S I'M NOT GOING TO FLY.
[LAUGHTER] WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
>> I LIKE THE STRUCTURE OF IT.
I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS A GRANT, PRESENT ME A BUSINESS CASE THAT SAYS, HERE'S WHAT I WANT, HERE'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, HERE'S WHAT I'M WILLING TO DO, AND HERE'S WHAT I THINK IT WILL DO FOR GROWTH OF BUSINESS, FOR TAX, FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
WHEN WE DO GRANTS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STUFF, TEACHERS HAVE TO TELL US EXACTLY HOW IS THIS GOING TO HELP MY KIDS WITH THEIR LEARNING.
WHAT IS THIS GOING TO GET THEM, THEY CAN'T HAVE NOW? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO GET, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, WHERE I'M GOING TO GET IT FROM FOR US TO THEN DECIDE, ALL RIGHT, THAT'S A GOOD ENOUGH BUSINESS CASE TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
THE MORE RESTRICTIVE YOU PUT IT THE HARDER YOU MAKE IT FOR SOMEBODY PRESENT A BUSINESS CASE BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, LET ME FIND A WAY TO GET REALLY CREATIVE TO MAKE THIS NARROW WINDOW TO FIT IT IN VERSUS GIVE ME JUST A TRUE BUSINESS CASE AS TO WHY YOU WANT IT, WE WANT TO HELP YOU.
SHOW US THE NUMBERS OR SHOW US THE IDEA.
I THINK WHAT IS HERE THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTS MORE OR THEY WANT SOMETHING THAT'S OUT OF THE SCOPE, WELL, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? THEY'RE JUST GOING TO COME TO US AND WE'RE GOING TO THEN HAVE TO DECIDE, OKAY, IS THIS SOMETHING WE'RE WILLING TO DO? BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ABILITY.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH INCENTIVES AS IT IS.
WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR INCENTIVES-BASED GIVING EVERY YEAR BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME TO YOU.
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BUT IF THEY'VE GOT SOME GREAT IDEA, WE REALLY THINK WOULD WORK.>> IT'S POSSIBLE SOMEBODY COULD HAVE A REQUEST THAT DOESN'T FALL IN THAT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] WAIT, SORRY, YOU'RE DONE.
IT'S LIKE, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.
>> BUT IF THAT'S A REQUEST THAT MAKES SENSE, AND IT'S SOMETHING [OVERLAPPING]
ONE IS IF IT FALLS WITHIN WHAT YOU CAN DO, THEN WE SHOULD ALLOW IT OR WE SHOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER IT.
I SEE TOO THAT TO ME, THIS GRANT PROGRAM TAKES US DOWN A NEW PATH, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME AND IT'S REALLY MORE AESTHETICS IN HOW A BUSINESS MAYBE LOOKS, SO WE'RE NOW ALLOWING NOW, WHEREAS BEFORE WE WOULDN'T HAVE.
I'M ACTUALLY OKAY WITH IT, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT HOW THINGS LOOK ON 78.
I THINK WE DO HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND SOME OF THIS COULD BE A LEARNING TOO.
WE MAY HAVE TO SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH.
THE OTHER THING IS, I KNOW WE CAN'T FIX THIS, BUT I'LL COMMENT.
I THINK THAT AS OF SIGNAGE AND HOW THEY'RE SEEING FROM THE ROAD IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS OF MOST BUSINESSES THAT ARE ON 78.
IF YOU ASK, THEY ARE ALWAYS AWARE.
IT'S LIKE, WOW, I WISH I COULD DO THIS.
THEY MAY CURSE THE CITY OR WHATEVER.
[LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] THEY CAN'T PUT OUT ALL THAT STUFF, BUT THEN SOMEBODY DOES, AND THEN IT GOES DOWN ALL PATH.
I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO WORK WITH BUSINESS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BE MORE FRIENDLY AND TRYING TO HELP THEM.
>> LET ME ASK A QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO WHAT DOES WORK WITH THESE OWNERS OF BUSINESS, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? A LOT OF TIMES, SMALL BUSINESSES ESPECIALLY, DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO COMPLETE A FORM.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHO CAN COMPLETE A FORM FOR THEM.
[OVERLAPPING] YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT, SO HOW DOES WORKING WITH THEM LOOK?
>> WELL, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE TO BE AN AGREEMENT.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SOUND LIKE WORK.
WE'LL MAKE IT SIMPLE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS TO JUSTIFY THAT.
WE CAN'T JUST GIVE SOMEBODY CASH.
>> WE HAVE ALL THESE THINGS THAT THEY GOT TO FILL OUT, AND SO THIS IS NO DIFFERENT WITH A BUSINESS.
NOW WE'RE JUST SAYING, HEY, WE WANT THIS INFORMATION IF YOU [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE AGAIN, WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE IN UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERY BUSINESS DOES NOT HAVE AN ASSISTANT WHO CAN FILL OUT A FORM.
SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
>> I THINK IT LOOKS A COHORT THAT IT GETS OUTSIDE OF US A LITTLE BIT.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IN GARLAND, THEY HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION; SBDC.
THEIR ONLY JOB IS TO HELP SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, WHETHER IT BE WITH GRANTS, BUSINESS WRITING, MARKETING PLANS, EVERYTHING.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DO AND THAT IS A FREE SERVICE PROVIDED.
I THINK IT'S THE COUNTY ACTUALLY, IT DOES IT.
>> YEAH, COLLIN COUNTY HAS IT TOO.
>> JUDITH COLLINS IS IN GARLAND, I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU GOT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, AND SO YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE ASSISTANCE FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS BUT LOOK, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK FOR MONEY, YOU BETTER BE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND [OVERLAPPING]
I'M JUST ASKING SO THAT WE CAN [OVERLAPPING] WE CAN PREPARE WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE.
>> WE CAN PROVIDE THAT RESOURCE, SAY, HEY, IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW OR YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT CAN BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY HEY, PREPARE THIS, THEN COME TO US BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING]
>> LIKE A FEW MINUTES AGO, MR. MCMURRAY, YOU SAID IF THEY CAN STATE THE CASE ON WHY IT NEEDS TO BE ABOVE THE 25,000, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY NEED TO HAVE A STORY.
SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM IN ORDER TO DEVELOP IN THEIR STORY, SO IF WE CAN SEND THEM TO A RESOURCE, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE NEEDED FOR THAT AND THAT MAY NOT REST WITH STAFF IF IT'S ALL EXISTING.
>> I AGREE. I DON'T THINK IT RESTS WITH STAFF, BUT IT'S EASIER FOR STAFF SAYING, WELL, GO TO COLLIN COUNTY SBDC [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK AN EASY WAY TO BOIL THIS DOWN TO A STATEMENT WOULD BE, THIS IS MORE QUALITY-OF-LIFE PROJECTS; MORE BEAUTIFICATION, IMPROVEMENTS.
WHEREAS IN AN INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT LIKE A SALES TAX REIMBURSEMENT, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING MORE FOR THE SPECIFICITY OF ROI, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE GENERATING, WHAT ARE YOUR OBJECTIONS? THIS IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE TO THAT SAME LEVEL.
WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A FORM AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE TO US, BUT IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE RESTRICTIVE OR A BARRIER TO ENTRY.
WE'LL BE CONTEMPLATIVE OF THAT CERTAINLY.
>> IS THERE ANOTHER PAGE AFTER THIS? IS THIS [OVERLAPPING] THE ONE?
>> THERE'S JUST A QUESTIONS SLIDE.
>> WHAT I WOULD SEE OR WHAT I WOULD WANT TO HAVE, I GUESS IT'D BE STAFF SAYING, ALL RIGHT,
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MAYBE IT IS A 5-10 QUESTION APPLICATION WITH HERE'S THE DATA WE WANT, HERE'S THE INFORMATION WE NEED SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN FILL IT OUT, PROVIDE THE INFORMATION, STATE THEIR CASE SO STAFF CAN GET IT AND YOU CAN JUST READ THROUGH IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE LIKE THIS, WE DON'T LIKE THIS, WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THIS.>> I THINK EVEN 10 QUESTION IS TOO MUCH, BUT I'M SURE [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE TOO MUCH.
>> YOU'RE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT IT AND YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A MOCK FORM.
>> THE THING IS WE'RE NOT THE FIRST ONES TO DO THIS.
IN GOVERNMENT, THEY SAY RND, RIP OF AND DUPLICATE [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S THE BEST FOR FLATTERY WHEN IT COMES. [LAUGHTER]
>> RIGHT. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO OTHER CITIES ABOUT THEIR PROGRAMS AND SEE, I THINK WE COULD USE THAT AND I THINK IT WOULD WORK IN MY OPINION.
>> NOW, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID 78 BUT NOT WOODBRIDGE COMMONS.
[OVERLAPPING] YOU HAD SOME DESCRIPTOR.
>> WOODBRIDGE CORNERS WHICH IS THAT AREA, LA FITNESS, BLACKROCK WHERE THEN YOU [OVERLAPPING] AND STUFF.
>> THAT WAS UNDER THE TERRACE?
>> THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS REFERENCING, THAT IT WAS [OVERLAPPING]
>> SO TERRACE 3 WOULD BE THE BOUNDARY THAT SOMEBODY IS ELIGIBLE TO GET.
[BACKGROUND] THIS ISN'T FUNDED FROM THE TERRACE.
THAT'S JUST AN EASY OH, LOOK HERE.
>> IT'S A PRE-DRAWN LINE AROUND THE PARTS OF 78 [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT WE WANT TO BEAUTIFY, THAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO SAY WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE IN THAT AREA.
>> THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE ALL OF SAXY THOUGH?
>> NO. THIS WOULD BE THE TERRACE.
WE WOULD USE THE TERRACE [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE BUSINESS GRANT WOULD ONLY APPLY IN [OVERLAPPING]
>> ONLY ON HIGHWAY 78 CORRIDOR.
>> A LITTLE BIT OFF, BUT THE INTENT HERE IS TO FOCUS MORE ON THE 78 REDEVELOPMENT BEAUTIFICATION.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE THE OTHER PROGRAM.
YOU CAN STILL COME AND REQUEST AN INCENTIVE, BUT THIS IS JUST FOR THE STAFF AND CREW THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVED.
>> THAT'S WHAT THE CITY WANTS?
>> THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS?
>> THAT WAS OUR DISCUSSION, YES.
BECAUSE YOU GET TO START AT HAVING AN AREA, A REAL SAL'S EAR.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO START SOMEWHERE, WHERE DO WE WANT TO START? THAT SEEMED TO BE THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF WHERE TO START.
>> IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL ITEM TONIGHT.
>> NO, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TIE EVERYTHING.
THEY GET YOUR COMMENTS COME BACK.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.
LET ME JUST BACKUP, BUT WE'D GOTTEN INTO THE WEEDS I THINK QUITE DEEP.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A MATCHING PROGRAM OR CAN WE WANT TO MAKE IT FLEXIBLE ENOUGH THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A TWO FOR ONE MATCH OR CAN SOMEWHAT COMPARE QUARTER OR WE JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT VERY FLEXIBLE? I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO IRON OUT THE DETAILS.
>> WHAT DO YOU SET A LIMIT TO SAY, UP TO 10,000 IS NOT MATCHING, BUT ABOVE 10,000 IS GOING TO BE MATCHING.
>> I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT REAL RESTRICTED MYSELF THE WAY I'M LEANING, BUT I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS.
>> FOR YOUR INFO, I CAN MAYBE CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT AND THIS MIGHT BE INSTRUCTIVE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT EXCEED OR EQUAL AT LEAST WHAT THE COST OF OUR PARTICIPATION WOULD BE.
THAT'S A CRAZY ROUNDABOUT WAY TO SAY IT, BUT PUT IT THIS WAY.
DONUT SHOP, THEY REQUEST $21,000 IN INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS.
THE COST TO INSTALL THE GREASE TRAP, THE PLUMBING, THE MEP, THE CONCRETE COST $21,000.
THAT WAS ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
WE COULD NOT SAY HERE'S $25,000 FOR YOU TO JUST DO THIS PROJECT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY [NOISE] SKIN IN THE GAME RELATIVE TO YOUR COMPONENT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY MATCHING.
>> WELL, IT'S JUST MONEY. IT'S NOT INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, THIS ISN'T EVEN INFRASTRUCTURE EITHER.
BUT WHAT I HEAR IS, IT DOES NEED TO BE MATCHING.
IF IT COSTS $5,000, WE PAY $2,500.
>> BUT THAT STAYS WITH THE BUILDING.
THAT STAYS WITH THE BUILDING ITSELF.
>> NOT EVEN THAT. WHAT I'M SEEING WITH THE EXPLANATION OF THINGS THAT ARE AESTHETICS HERE, WHICH IS EVERYTHING ON THAT LIST, IS IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.
THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE SIDEWALKS.
>> I DON'T THINK THIS LIST IS EXHAUSTIVE.
>> THIS IS LOOKING AT WHAT? AGAIN, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE GOVERNED BY TYPE B,
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WHICH ALLOW US IN THE STATE.>> MY POINT IS, I COULD JUST SET THAT ASIDE.
IT'S JUST SAYING, HEY, IT'S A MATCHING PROGRAM.
IF IT COST YOU 500, WE'LL PAY 250.
IF IT'S 10,000, WILL PAY 5,000.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOUR INSTRUCTIONS TO US.
>> IS IT THAT WE'LL PAY UP TO 5,000.
IF IT'S 10,000, WE'LL PAY UP TO 50%, NOT NECESSARILY THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE WOULD MATCH UP TO 25,000.
>> WE WILL NOT SPEND MORE THAN $25,000.
SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE A $50,000 GREASE TRAP INSTALLATION, WE COULD DO UP TO 25.
>> LET ME ALSO ADD JUST A QUESTION.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OR MAYBE IT'S A STATEMENT, I'M NOT SURE YET.
BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LOCALLY OWNED FAMILY-ORIENTED BUSINESS MOM-AND-POP VERSUS FRANCHISE.
A FRANCHISE ORGANIZATION MORE THAN LIKELY WILL MAKE IT SO THAT THAT FRANCHISEE KNOWS ALREADY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A GREASE TRAP.
THAT'S IT'S PART OF WHAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR WHEN THEY ARE BUYING INTO THAT FRANCHISE.
A MOM-AND-POP, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IN SOMETHING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.
>> I WOULDN'T USE A FRANCHISE BECAUSE THAT CAN BE DICEY.
>> IT CAN. I'M JUST GRABBING WORDS HERE.
>> I STILL THINK IT'S MAKE THE BUSINESS CASE.
>> MY QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF DIFFERENCE IN THAT KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT? [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WOULDN'T GET OFF TO START.
IF YOU COME BACK IN A YEAR AND ALL OF THEM WENT TO ONE THING AND THEN BE LIKE, OKAY, WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO CHANGE IT.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT THEY WENT TO ONE THING?
>> I CAN'T THINK OF AN EXAMPLE, BUT LET'S SAY YOU SET THIS UP AND EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR IN THERE GETS USED ON FIVE NEW STUFF SUBWAYS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT [LAUGHTER] THE EXAMPLE WOULD BE. WELL, THE NEXT THING.
WELL, MAYBE WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCLUDE FRANCHISE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE WE USED IT UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO DO THAT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE.
>> AGAIN, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
>> I'D MUCH BE CONCERNED THAT WE GET FOUR PEOPLE IN AND CAN USE IT THAN EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE USING IT FOR.
>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO EVEN USE 100,000, HONESTLY.
>> HERE WOULD BE MY POINT ON THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LIKE, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A FRANCHISE, I STARTUP, GO BOB'S HOTDOGS OR WHATEVER, OR I'M A CORPORATE STARTING.
A LOT OF THAT IS LIKE SOMEBODY LOCALLY IS GOING TO PUT THEIR MONEY DOWN ON IT.
TO THAT POINT, I WOULDN'T CARE WHETHER YOU ARE A FRANCHISER, CORPORATE, OR MAYBE YOU JUST STARTED YOUR OWN.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WILL BET YOUR LUNCH THAT MOST FRANCHISES, THOSE FOLKS HAD TO PUT A LOT ALMOST THEIR LIFE SAVINGS IN TO START THAT UP, AND THAT WOULD BE WHY I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIMIT IT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? THAT'S THE END OF JARED'S PRESENTATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE EDC?
>> I HAVE SOMETHING AND WAS SAYING LIKE, WE WOULD JUST GIVE STAFF IF IT'S UP TO 25,000, THEN THEY APPROVE THOSE.
THEN WE STILL NEED COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT.
>> COUNCIL IS APPROVING THE BUDGET AND THAT'S GIVING US THE AUTHORIZATION TO USE THE $100,000 LOCAL BUSINESSES CREDIT.
>> HOW WOULD THAT WORK? BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE LIKE ANYTHING OVER 10,000 HAD TO GO TO COUNCIL.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT'S LIKE A PART.
>> THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS, YES.
IT'S NOT A HARD AND FAST RULE.
WE DISCUSSED THE $10,000 LIMIT, BUT WITH INFLATION AND PRICES BEING WHAT THEY ARE, WE WILL ELIMINATE A LOT OF THE ASKS BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T FALL UNDER THAT.
WE THOUGHT 25 WAS NOT A HUGE NUMBER, BUT NOT A BIG ENOUGH NUMBER THAT PROJECTS WILL BE ABLE TO BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY UNDER THAT NUMBER.
IT'S NOT A SUCH A SMALL NUMBER THAT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO COME IN AT 12 AND THEN NONE OF THEM GOES THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
WE WANT A TOO LOW OF A NUMBER, BUT WE DON'T WANT A HUGE NUMBER EITHER.
>> THEN I SAW SOMEBODY I GUESS HE'S SAYING THAT ALL REQUESTS WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO TO PUBLIC CARRYING.
>> NO. WE WOULD HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING TO AUTHORIZE THE $100,000 AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
>> JUST FOR THE INITIAL AMOUNT.
>> COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE 100,000 BUDGET ITEM.
THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON $100,000 BUDGET ITEM.
THEN AS THOSE THINGS ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY MORE ADDITIONAL.
>> IT WOULD BE FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU ALL.
>> IT WOULD JUST BE A REPORT OUT THAT, HEY, YOU DID A $15,000 TO ABC FOR XYZ.
GO FORWARD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
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ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A COMMENT FROM MR. HOLBOKE FOR ITEM D3. MR. HOLBOKE, PLEASE.>> [BACKGROUND] ABBOTT SAYS THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYMORE.
I WANT TO START BUILDING MY TIRE BUSINESS AND I WANT $15,000 FOR A RIM MACHINE.
DOES THAT QUALIFY OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT PROGRAM?
>> BECAUSE YOU CAN GET A GREASE TRAP, BUT CAN I MAKE SOMETHING THAT MAKES MY BUSINESS MORE VIABLE? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TEN YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT AESTHETICS AND THEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT GREASE TRAPS.
I CANNOT BELIEVE THERE ARE THAT MANY BUSINESSES ON 78 THAT NEED A GREASE TRAP.
WOODBRIDGE CAFE DID AND IT WORKED OUT FINE.
BUT TO GET MY GREASE TRAP, DO I HAVE TO PUT PAVED STONES ACROSS THE PARKING LOT? THERE'S NO RULES HERE.
THERE'S DEFINITELY NO GUIDELINES.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE HELL YOU ALL ARE HEADED.
IT'S JUST MOVE FORWARD AND DO SOME AND GET IT APPROVED.
YOU REALLY GOT TO LOOK AT THIS A WHOLE LOT HARDER BECAUSE I MIGHT BE THE TACO SHOP THAT WANTS TO BUILD OUT MY BUILDING A LITTLE BIT MORE.
DO I NEED TO PLANT TREES? IF I'M A LONGSTANDING BUSINESS AND I BUILD AN OUTDOOR EATING AREA, THAT IS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT STAYS WITH THE BUSINESS.
SO YOUR GUIDELINES NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT SHARPER.
YOU NEED TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE THAN A BANK, BUT YOU ALL ARE ALL OVER THE ROAD FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH.
>> I'M WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT.
I'M SORRY. I CAN'T BE QUIET ON THAT.
WE USE GREASE TRAPS IN HIS EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP FROM THE BOARD.
THIS ISN'T GREASE TRAPS OR TREES.
LET ME FINISH. YOU GOT YOUR THREE MINUTES AND I HELD QUIET.
IT CAN BE ALL THE ABOVE THAT YOU MENTIONED.
WE DID NOT VOTE ON ONE THING JUST TONIGHT.
WE ASKED HIM COME WITH A GRANT APPLICATION AS SOMETHING TO DO.
SO HAS A DECISION BEEN MADE? NO. DOES IT MEAN THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC EXACT PARAMETERS? NO. IF SOMEBODY COMES TO US WITH A BUSINESS CASE TO IMPROVE THEIR BUSINESS, THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO HELP.
IF YOU WANT TO BUY A RIM MACHINE, MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, SHOW ME HOW IT'S GOING TO HELP YOU AND HOW WE CAN HELP YOU. I'M IN.
>> MY REQUEST, YOU CAN COME TALK ALL YOU WANT, TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR US.
WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY DUMB MISTAKES HERE TODAY.
WE'VE JUST BEEN DISCUSSING THINGS.
>> THIS IS NOT AN AESTHETICS PACKAGE.
>> LET ME CLARIFY SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR.
THIS IS NOT AN AESTHETICS PACKAGE.
>> THEN DON'T SAY YOU WANT TO BEAUTIFY 78.
YOU WANT TO LOOK TO ESTABLISH COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE VIABLE ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THAT'S ALL.
>> BUT AESTHETICS MAY BE PART [OVERLAPPING] OF THAT.
>> PERFECT. I HOPE THAT HELPS YOU JUST SO YOU KNOW. [OVERLAPPING] COME ON.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
>> I THINK THE FUNDAMENTAL GUIDELINE HERE IS IT HAS TO BE A PROJECT THAT THE STATE LAW ALLOWS [OVERLAPPING] A TYPE B CORPORATIONS AGREEMENT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF STUFF THAT FALLS IN THERE, AND WE'RE LETTING BUSINESSES OF ALL SORTS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, COME FORWARD AND MAKE AN ARGUMENT, A CASE THAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY WANT TO DO TO GET A MATCHING GRANT.
>> AND WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE ANYTHING THAT FALLS UNDER THAT.
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>> THAT'S WHERE [OVERLAPPING] JIM IS SAYING IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE MATCHING.
THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE THAT WAS MENTIONED.
>> THANK YOU, MR. HOLBOKE. THANK YOU, MR. [INAUDIBLE].
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HOWARTH. YOU WANT TO [OVERLAPPING] SAY SOMETHING ELSE?
>> CAN I HAVE ONE MORE THING? MAYBE JUST WITH A SHOW OF HANDS.
I THINK FOR JARED'S BENEFIT GOING FORWARD, DO WE WANT MATCHING 50/50? WE'D WANT HIM TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
I THINK WE NEED YOU ALL BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A VOTE ON THIS, GIVE SOME GUIDANCE TO JARED ON WHERE HE'S COMING BACK.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT, THEN YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT.
IF WE'RE NOT, WE NEED TO DISCUSS VIA NEXT TIME.
>> I THOUGHT THE WORD FLEXIBILITY WAS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] MATCHING FOR SOME PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT MATCHING FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
YOU NEED TO GIVE JARED SOME GUIDANCE HERE.
>> I THINK ANY BUSINESS HAS TO PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, SO THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME LEVEL OF MATCHING.
IT CAN'T JUST BE, HEY, I'VE GOT A GREAT, BIG THING.
I WANT TO PUT IN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING THING FOR MY BUILDING JUST BECAUSE IT'S COOL AND I'M GOING TO CALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
WELL, YOU DON'T REALLY NEED THAT.
YOU JUST WANT TO HAVE IT BECAUSE IT'S COOL.
BUT I THINK EVERY BUSINESS OWNER HAS GOT TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF SKIN IN THE GAME.
>> MAYBE WE COME UP WITH A MINIMUM.
>> A MINIMUM OF 25% OF THE OVERALL SPEND IS MY SUGGESTION.
>> I CAN GET ON BOARD. I WANT THE FLEXIBILITY.
I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'D HAVE TO THINK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT MIGHT BE SOME OF THE CASES THAT WE'VE RUN INTO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S THE THING, IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE THE REGULAR PROCESS AS WELL.
>> FOR THE MOMENT, IF YOU WANT MY OPINION, I WOULD GO WITH WHAT HE SAID, CALL IT A MINIMUM 25% FOR RIGHT NOW SO WE'VE GOT A STARTING POINT, AND LET'S SEE WHERE THIS GOES TO WHEN YOU COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S AN APPLICATION, WHAT ARE WE THINKING? MAYBE EACH ONE OF US CAN THINK THROUGH WHAT MIGHT BE IDEAS OR THINGS THAT YOU COULD SEE THAT PEOPLE WOULD ASK FOR JUST AS WE THINK ABOUT IT OURSELVES.
>> WE'LL JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, AS FAR AS THE STATE PIECE GOES, THAT OUR CONTRIBUTION ISN'T EXCEEDING WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING INTO IT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THEY'VE GOT $150,000 WORTH OF WORK, WE'RE STILL ONLY TALKING ABOUT US DOING 25,000.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK WE STILL KEEP AT THE 25 AS THE MOST.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE TO COME TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> IF IT'S 25% MATCH OR 50% MATCH, I'M OKAY EITHER WAY.
I DO AGREE WITH HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS IS COMING WITH SOMETHING.
>> THIS IS JUST THROW IT AT THE WALL, SEE IF IT STICKS.
COULD IT BE YOUR BASELINE IS THE 25%? IF YOU'RE WANTING MORE THAN THAT, IT'S NOT A DECISION THAT STAFFING JUST MAKE ON THEIR OWN.
I DON'T WANT TO BRING MORE STUFF TO US AND WHAT STAFF WILL DO.
BUT IF YOU'RE WANTING TO 50 OR YOU WANT MORE.
I'M JUST THROWING AT THE WALL AND IT MAY NOT STICK.
IF THEY WANT 20%, THEY ONLY HAVE 20% TO BRING TO THE GAME, YOU WANT IT TO COME TO US.
BUT THEN I FEEL LIKE MAYBE IT'S NOT A LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT REQUEST, THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS.
>> MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW.
>> I THINK IT'S HARD TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN YOU'VE NO ACTUALLY SEEN [OVERLAPPING].
>> JIM, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? JUST WITH YOUR COMMENT EARLIER, ARE YOU THINKING HE'S GOING TO LEAVE IT NOT?
>> I GET SOME CRAWFISH A LITTLE HERE.
I THINK I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.
>> WE'RE NOT TASKED WITH MAKING A DECISION. [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S CORRECT
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE CAN YOU CLARIFY TOO.
>> WE KNOW IT'S 25,000 MAX, RIGHT?
>> YES. [OVERLAPPING] THAT NUMBER.
>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER.
>> NOW LET'S SAY, I'M GOOD KEEPING IT AS BROAD AS POSSIBLE AS LONG AS WE'RE FOLLOWING OBVIOUSLY THE TYPE B, THE OTHER PART OF IT.
THEN, I THINK THE OTHER THING, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR, WE DID GO BACK AND FORTH ON, ARE WE SAYING ANY BUSINESS IN SACHSE OR ONLY ON 78?
>> WHICH WE'LL PUT THAT OUT THERE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WITH SOME EXCLUSIONS OF COURSE [OVERLAPPING]
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>> JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THEM BECAUSE IF WE'RE SAYING THAT, THEN THERE IS A PUSH FOR BEAUTIFICATION, BUT THEN IF WE'RE ALLOWING ANYTHING THAT IS HELPING THAT BUSINESS, I'M JUST STILL WONDERING THEN WHY IF IT'S NOT AESTHETICS AND BEAUTIFICATION OF 78, WHY WOULDN'T IT BE ANY BUSINESSES IN SACHSE?
>> I THINK THAT THE FUNDAMENTAL THING HERE IS TO INCREASE THE SPEED OF BUSINESS TO MAKE IT MORE AGILE.
WHEN WE'RE THINKING AND WE'RE CONTEMPLATING, LOOK, WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT TO DO, I'M JUST GOING TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM, [LAUGHTER] SO I DON'T CARE.
BUT FROM A HIGHWAY 78 STANDPOINT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE SAT HERE AND TALKED ABOUT HIGHWAY 78? PGBT, THERE'S NOT REALLY, THOSE ARE ALL NEW BUILDS FOR THE MOST PART.
IF WE'RE LIMITING IT TO A COMMERCIAL PROJECT, FIRST OF ALL, $25,000 ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR YOU IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD ON PLEASANT VALLEY BECAUSE YOUR CAPEX COSTS ARE GOING TO BE SO ASTRONOMICALLY HIGH THAT YOU'RE COMING THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS ANYWAY.
I THINK THAT THE THINKING BEHIND LIMITING IT TO 78 AND EXCLUDING WOODBRIDGE CORNERS WAS THIS IS THE BULK OF YOUR EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN IN SACHSE AND WE START THERE EXCLUDING WOODBRIDGE CORNERS WITH IT AGAIN, HAVE NEWER BUILDS.
>> I'M DEFINITELY WITH YOU ON THE 78.
I AGREE THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR ME TO LIKE HOW IT LOOKS AND BEAUTIFICATION.
BUT IF WE ARE SAYING YOU COULD USE IT FOR ANYTHING, THAT'S WHY I WOULD SAY, WELL, WHY WOULDN'T WE LIMIT IT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT MURPHY ROAD.
THOSE ARE STARTING TO BE OLDER BUSINESSES.
YOU'RE RIGHT, THOSE SHOULD ALL BE NEW AND YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT THEM TO COME HERE.
BUT I GUESS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF, IF IT'S NOT, IF WE AREN'T GOING TO SAY IT'S FOR BEAUTIFICATION, THEN WHY WOULD WE JUST LIMIT IT TO 78? BECAUSE THEY COULD DO STUFF THAT HELPS THEM OUT AND THAT HELPS THEM BANG A BUSINESS, BECAUSE IT STILL LOOKS LIKE IT DOES.
>> MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS THE SAME AS YOURS.
IT IS LIKE, WHY ARE WE LIMITING THIS TO 78? JUST BECAUSE IT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LAUNCHING FOR THE CITY AND IT FEELS WEIRD TO SAY, BUT ONLY THESE PEOPLE IN THE CITY.
THAT' JUST MY GENERAL THOUGHT.
WHAT I WAS THINKING IS MAYBE IF THE COUNCIL IS ONE THAT WANTED TO DIRECT THESE FUNDS TOWARDS 78, WHEN WE GET TO A MID-YEAR BUDGET REVIEW, WE SEE HOW MUCH OF THIS HAS BEEN USED AND IF THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY SITTING IN THERE, MAYBE THEN WE OPEN IT UP TO OTHER PEOPLE.
I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO SEE IT THERE.
>> EVERYONE ON COUNCIL BUT THE GENERAL DISCUSSION WAS TO FOCUS THIS AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OLDER BUSINESSES, THE SMALLER BUSINESSES, AND THEY TEND TO BE HIGHLY FOCUSED FROM KROGER TO WOODBRIDGE THERE, THAT'S WHERE THEY WEIGH AND THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN, NOT THAT THEY DON'T DESERVE SOMETHING, I HAD THIS COUNCILMEMBER MILLSAP HAS A BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE EXCLUDED.
BUT WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WHERE'S THE NEED AND WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO AS A COMMUNITY? LET'S FOCUS THERE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
DO WE USE IT ALL? DOES NOBODY APPLY? WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE AND STARTING IN A LOCATION SEEMS MORE POINTED AND DOABLE LIKE A SCATTERSHOT ACROSS THE CITY.
ITS PHILOSOPHICAL, IT'S NOT THAT LAUNCH BUSINESSES SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT COULD USE THIS.
>> THE BEAUTY OF IT IS THE LOCATION, YOU CAN CHANGE MIDSTREAM BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE FUNDS AND THE STRUCTURE SET.
YOU'VE SEEN IT, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS UP, SIX MONTHS IN, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING, OPEN IT UP MORE, FINE.
>> THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR YOU SAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THIS EVERYWHERE BECAUSE NOBODY APPLIED, JUST DIDN'T DO IT, WE DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE.
>> SIX MONTHS ISN'T A WHOLE LONG TIME.
[OVERLAPPING] I'LL JUST SAY BECAUSE LOOK AT THE OTHER GRANT SITUATION.
THAT WAS REALLY A BOOTS ON THE GROUND, GET IN FRONT OF, TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSON TO TALK WITH AND THEN GETTING THAT COMMUNICATION EVEN LET THEM TO SAY, HEY THIS IS SOMETHING YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT.
THERE'S THAT WHOLE PART OF IT.
I'D SAY AS FAR AS BEAUTIFICATION ON 78, THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE PROBABLY WANT TO GET SMARTER ON IS, I'M SAYING I THINK MOST OF THAT IS LEAST PROPERTIES, THE STRIPS AND EVERYTHING.
UNDERSTANDING WHAT ARE THOSE OWNERS DEALING WITH WITHIN THEIR LEASE AGREEMENTS AS WELL BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT WERE MISSING OR HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER? DO WE FIGURE OUT HOW THAT INCLUDES THE LEASE OWNER AS WELL AS THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THERE.
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>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE THE BUSINESS OWNER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SIGN OFF.
>> TOTALLY AGREE. THAT'S MY POINT.
THERE'S THAT PIECE OF IT MAKES IT A LITTLE COMPLEX ON THERE.
I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY QUICKLY FIND OUT.
WE KNOW WHO JEANNIE ON TO PROPERTY FRANKIE ON SAYS.
WE CAN GO DOWN TO PROBABLY KNOCK THAT OFF TO KNOW WHO OWNS BUT AGAIN, WELL, I'LL BUT YOU A DINNER AT ALBANESE, MOST OF THEM ARE LEASED.
>> COULD YOU MAKE TWO CLASSIFICATIONS IF IT'S FOR BEAUTIFICATION, WE'LL PAY 50% UP TO 25,000 AND IF IT'S ANYTHING ELSE, WE'LL PAY 25% OF ITS INFRASTRUCTURE OR JUST ANYTHING ELSE.
IF WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BEAUTIFY IT, WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE ACCEPTABLE?
>> CAN I GIVE MY TWO CENTS? [OVERLAPPING] I WOULD NOT WANT TO MAKE THIS OVERLY COMPLEX.
WE TALKED ABOUT A STRAIGHTFORWARD PROGRAM AND THEN HERE WE ARE ADDING AND ADDING AND THAT'S JUST MY RESPECTFUL OPINION.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS POINT SO JUST TELL ME WHERE TO START AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
FROM A STAFF ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, I DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED NECESSARILY OF PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS.
I THINK THIS IS BEAUTIFUL, AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS BEAUTIFUL? THAT'S A DANGEROUS GAME TO PLAY.
I THINK WE USE THE WORD BEAUTIFICATION AND ANESTHETICS, WE GOT A LITTLE WRAPPED AROUND THE AXLE IN THAT ONE PARTICULAR WORD.
BUT WHEN WE SAY TIGHT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS AND ENHANCEMENTS TO THE 78 CORRIDOR.
DON'T JUST THINK OF IT IN THE SUBJECTIVE TERM OF BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT AM I ENHANCING? LANDSCAPING, IRRIGATION, TREE PLANTING, CONCRETE, TO ADD MORE PARKING SPOTS.
THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE ENHANCING THE 78 CORRIDOR IF WE WANT TO LIMIT IT TO THAT.
I JUST HESITATE TO ADD THIS AND THIS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE A COMPLEX PROGRAM THAT SOMEBODY THAT'S A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER CAN'T FIGURE OUT THAT WHAT DO I GET?
>> I AGREE, I WANT THEM TO HAVE SOME PIECE OF SKIN IN THE GAME.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BIT, BUT I WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING SO I DON'T KNOW THAT, KEEP IT SIMPLE.
I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, JERRY. THANKS FOR THAT.
>> THANKS FOR THAT, I APPRECIATE IT.
THE SKIN IN THE GAME I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE.
THEY'VE GOT TO INVEST IN YOUR BUSINESS.
I DO LIKE THAT, BUT I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU COME BACK WITH TYPE B.
YOU CAN GO OFF IN THIS, BUT WE NEED TO REALLY KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO JUST STOP AND LET IT LIE.
IF WE DON'T GET ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN BY DEFINITION IS PROJECT TYPE B, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STATE LAYS OUT AND THEY SPECIFY ALL THAT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO.
>> WE DON'T HAVE TO, THAT'S RIGHT.
>> BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY CLEAR AND IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU AND ASK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR WHOEVER IS SERVING IN HIS PLACE AND THE WILL TELL YOU.
>> I THINK WE KEEP IT BROAD TO THAT AND WHATEVER THAT IT GETS US, LET'S MOVE ON.
IF WE GET SOME INTERESTS, WE GET INTEREST IF WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE SCRAP IT OR WE REVISE IT OR WHATEVER, BUT WE'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.
>> BUT THE COUNCIL, I WAS THINKING 50, YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE.
>> JUST MATCHING, CORRECT, IT'S MATCHING.
>> THE DISCUSSION WAS 25% MINIMUM SKIN IN THE GAME, ABOUT 15.
CERTAINLY THAT'S A NUMBER THAT WE CAN, THAT'S AN EASY FLICK OF THE PIN AS FAR AS MAKING THAT CHANGE.
FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WE WILL LIKELY HAVE AN ACTUAL ACTION ITEM FOR YOU ALL.
YOU CAN CONTEMPLATE, LOOK AT REACT TO, MAKE CHANGES IF WE NEED TO AND SIT ON IT IF WE NEED TO.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?
[LAUGHTER]
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.