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[A. Meeting Opening]

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LET'S CALL THIS MEETING OF THE SACHSE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

TODAY IS MONDAY, AUGUST 7TH, 2023.

THE TIME IS, MS. GRANGER? 6:30 P.M.

THE TIME IS 6:30 P.M.

WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM A.2 INVOCATION AND PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.

I'VE ASKED MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS TO LEAD OUR INVOCATION AND MS. HOWARTH TO LEAD OUR PLEDGES.

IF YOU CAN, PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION.

PLEASE PRAY WITH ME. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO GATHER THIS EVENING.

AS WE CONSIDER THE CITY'S BUSINESS AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF SACHSE, PLEASE GIVE US THE WISDOM AND THE HEARING.

THE ABILITY TO HEAR EACH AND EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ON EACH AND EVERY AGENDA ITEM.

GIVE US THE STRENGTH TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITY.

AND AS ALWAYS, I ALWAYS ASK YOU TO LOOK OUT FOR ALL OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND SACHSE AND ALL OF THE MILITARY THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

PLEASE BE WITH US TONIGHT AS WE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.

AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

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PLEDGE]. THANK YOU.

YOU MAY BE SEATED. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM B PUBLIC COMMENT.

[B. Public Comment]

THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.

THE TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.

A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, COUNCIL IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE WILL TAKE COMMENTS UNDER ADVISEMENT.

DO HAVE ONE CARD.

MARTY HOLBROOK.

MARTY HOBO 5511.

OAK RIDGE CIRCLE SACHSE, TEXAS.

TOP OF THE HILL. YOU GOT LUCKY.

I MEANT TO PLAY A GEORGE JONES SONG BECAUSE HE WAS THE ORIGINAL NO SHOW JONES, SO WELCOME BACK.

I DIDN'T GET HER DONE.

GOOD JOB FOR GETTING THE FLAG.

MAYOR, BACK WHEN Y'ALL WERE SPENDING $12,000 TO TALK ABOUT LOCAL ISSUES IN AUSTIN.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW Y'ALL PARTIED WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON BEFOREHAND, AND MS. NASH WAS GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WAS STILL ON THE AGENDA.

UM, DALLAS AND FORT WORTH BOTH.

PRETTY LAND, PRETTY MAJOR RENTAL AND SHORT-TERM RENTAL LEGISLATION.

WONDER WHERE WE ARE ON THAT AND WHO IS THE BLOATED, INEFFECTUAL BUREAUCRACY.

UM. YOU'RE GOING TO.

APPROVE THE EDC MINUTES.

THAT'S COMING UP LATER.

I'LL SAVE THAT ONE.

I'LL SAVE THAT ONE, TOO.

MS. NASH, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE SOUND HAS BEEN TURNED OFF ON SOME OF THE VIDEOS THAT ARE POSTED OUT HERE, THESE MEETINGS, IS THAT STANDARD PRACTICE OR WAS IT AN ACCIDENT? I CAN CALL YOU BACK ON THAT ONE.

I GOT TO SAY, WELCOME TO Y'ALL FOR GETTING A DESTINATION LOCATION AT THE STATION.

COME TO SACHSE.

GET SOME TACOS.

GET SOME GAS.

COME AROUND THE CORNER AND GET A $400 PLATE OF FAJITAS.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO COST YOU AT FRANKIE'S, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT.

UM. I THINK THAT'LL CATCH ME UP FOR RIGHT NOW.

YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO AHEAD AND ADD AN AGENDA ITEM FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO Y'ALL CAN HAVE A SPECIAL REPORT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO CALL YOU LIARS AGAIN.

BUT YOU DO HAVE AN ITEM NUMBER, SO I'LL PLAY IT THERE.

THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM C, COUNCIL STAFF REPORTS AND UPDATES.

[C. Council/Staff Reports and Updates]

ITEM ONE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ANNOUNCEMENTS REGARDING SPECIAL EVENTS, CURRENT ACTIVITIES AND LOCAL ACHIEVEMENTS.

ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AND OUR AUDIENCE AT THIS TIME.

MS. BUHLER? I AM THE PROUD LIAISON TO WYLIE ISD AND WYLIE ISD IS BACK TO SCHOOL ON THURSDAY AUGUST 10TH AT ALL CAMPUSES.

MEET THE TEACHER WILL BE TOMORROW AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAMPUSES FROM 4 TO 6.

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AND PLEASE REMEMBER TO SLOW DOWN IN THOSE SCHOOL ZONES AND KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THE KIDDOS WALKING TO AND FROM SCHOOL.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE TEACHERS, STUDENTS AND STAFF ON A GOOD NEW YEAR.

THANK YOU.

AND I WILL SAY, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON MS. BUHLER, MS. NASH AND MYSELF WERE HONORED ENOUGH TO BE INVITED TO THE WYLIE CONVOCATION THIS PAST WEEK, AND IT WAS A VERY GREAT EVENT.

AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU MAKE A GREAT REMINDER OF OUR STUDENTS AND OUR TEACHERS, AND IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE WHEN THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR STARTS.

I KNOW GARLAND ISD IS STARTING TOMORROW, SO WYLIE THEY'RE STARTING ON THURSDAY.

SO GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE TEACHERS AND STUDENTS AND ADMINISTRATORS GOING FORWARD.

MR. PRESTENBERG? YES, COUNCILWOMAN BUHLER STOLE MY THUNDER.

I AM THE GISD LIAISON AND WHICH IS A MUCH BIGGER AND BETTER SCHOOL DISTRICT THAN, I'M JUST TOTALLY KIDDING, TOTALLY KIDDING.

BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE STUDENTS COMING BACK TOMORROW, ALL THE TEACHERS GOING BACK.

ACTUALLY, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN BACK FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.

SO, AND I WISH THEM THE BEST OF LUCK THIS YEAR.

ALSO, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO DO THE GRAND OPENING OR GRAND OPENING, THE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THE CHIEF IS LEADING THERE.

AND IT WAS HOT, BUT IT WAS FUN TO SEE THE NEW GROUND BEING BROKEN AND CAN'T WAIT TO SEE ALL THE ANIMALS KIND OF GET TRANSPORTED OVER.

AND SO CAN'T WAIT TO ALSO SEE THE PROGRESS.

SO, AS YOU DRIVE BY, JUST MAKE SURE YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT OR LOOK TO THE LEFT AND SEE HOW WE'RE DOING THERE.

SO THAT'S ALL.

MR. MILLSAP? YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM HAS FINISHED, AND THEY HAD THEIR END OF THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM.

A MEETING LAST SATURDAY, A WEEK AGO SATURDAY, AND HAD OVER 500 PEOPLE SHOWED UP AT ONE OF THE BEST EVER.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. ANYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AND OUR AUDIENCE.

MS. NASH? MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LOTS OF GOOD THINGS TO TALK ABOUT WITH EMPLOYEES ALL THE WAY FROM NEW EMPLOYEES TO RETIREMENTS.

SO, TWO NEW MEMBERS ON OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

WE'RE ADDING SOME FOLKS TO OUR WASTEWATER CREW AND OUR STREETS CREW.

SO, WE ARE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THEM, AND THEY'VE BROUGHT SOME EXPERIENCE FROM OTHER CITIES.

SO, FILLING OUT THOSE TEAMS, WHICH IS REALLY A GREAT THING.

VERY EXCITED TO WELCOME TWO NEW PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS, ABIGAIL HUGHES AND JOE FABIAN.

BOTH OF THEM DO HAVE TELECOMMUNICATIONS EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS GREAT.

SO, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THEM JOIN OUR TEAM AS WELL.

ALSO, TWO NEW FIREFIGHTERS, THEY ACTUALLY JUST STARTED TODAY.

SO, THIS WILL BE THEIR FIRST FIRE SERVICE POSITION FOR BOTH OF THESE GENTLEMEN.

BOTH BRIAN LEY IS JOINING US AND BRAXTON GOMEZ.

SO REALLY GLAD TO HAVE THEM JOIN OUR TEAM.

AND THEN I WAS ABLE TO ANNOUNCE TO YOU A FEW WEEKS BACK, I GUESS A LITTLE OVER A MONTH AGO, THAT WE HAD A NEW HIRE.

FINALLY, WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE AN ENGINEER, CAMERON SERMON.

THAT'S A TONGUE TWISTER THERE.

WE HIRED HIM IN WITH THE HOPE THAT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE PROMOTED ONCE HE PASSED HIS PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS' EXAM, WHICH HE DID.

SO HIRED HIM.

AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO PROMOTE HIM RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE HE GOT HIS PE, HUGE DEAL TO ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW, BECOMING A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IS A VERY DIFFICULT EXAM, VERY HARD TO ACHIEVE.

AND HE DID THAT. AND SO, WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL AND PROUD OF HIM THAT HE DID THAT AND TOOK CARE OF THAT.

TWO PROMOTIONS.

JULIE BIRD, WHO WAS OUR LIBRARY PROGRAMING SPECIALIST.

NOW SHE IS OR ACTUALLY SHE IS NOW OUR LIBRARY PROGRAMING SPECIALIST.

SORRY. SHE WAS A PART TIME LIBRARY ASSISTANT, AND SHE WAS PROMOTED.

AND THEN THOSE OF YOU WHO SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THE LIBRARY, I'M SURE YOU KNOW JULIE, BUT ALSO MARTINA NEWSOME.

SHE'S BEEN WITH THE LIBRARY SINCE LAST YEAR AND SHE WAS PROMOTED TO SENIOR LIBRARIAN AS WELL.

SO GOOD NEWS WITH BOTH OF THEM AND VERY PROUD OF THE BOTH OF THEM FOR THEIRS.

AND FINALLY, A RETIREMENT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, CHARLES MOTT, WHO WAS WITH THE CITY FOR 20 YEARS, WHO WAS OUR PLANS EXAMINER.

GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE AND JUST AN ALL-AROUND GOOD GUY.

HE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND LAUNCH INTO RETIREMENT.

AND SO, WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE WORK THAT HE DID.

TRIED TO DO A BIG RETIREMENT PARTY FOR HIM.

HE SAID, NO, WE DID A LITTLE SOMETHING ANYWAY, AND HE GROUSED ABOUT IT, BUT WE ALL WANTED TO SAY GOODBYE AND TREAT HIM WELL AND GIVE HIM A PARTY FOR 20 YEARS OF BEING WITH THE CITY. SO, CONGRATULATIONS TO CHARLES ON HIS NEW LIFE ADVENTURES.

I WOULD JUST ADD FOR MR. MOTT, YOU KNOW, HE HE HAD ONE OF THOSE I WOULD NOT SAY THE MOST ENVIABLE JOB IN THE CITY, REVIEWING PERMIT PLANS.

AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, HE PROBABLY SAW ALL DIFFERENT KINDS.

BUT HE ALWAYS DID A GREAT JOB.

HE WAS ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL.

AND EVEN WHEN I CAME TO HIM MANY TIMES AGO, HE WALKED ME THROUGH THE PROCESS.

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SO. AND PATIENCE OF JOB, AS I SAY.

SO, HE WAS A GREAT GUY. HE DEFINITELY WILL BE MISSED.

AND SO, WISH MISTER MOTT THE BEST IN RETIREMENT.

JUST A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS REAL QUICK.

IF YOU'VE EVER WANTED TO BE ON ONE OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE.

WE DO HAVE OUR INTERVIEW PROCESS ABOUT TO START, SO IF YOU WANT TO APPLY FOR A BOARD OR COMMISSION SPOT, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOUND ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

YOU CAN DO THAT. AND THEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW, OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS INCLUDE ANIMAL SHELTER BOARD, OUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD, LIBRARY BOARD, MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT, DISTRICT BOARD, PARKS RECREATION BOARD, INCLUDING TWO YOUTH ADVISORY POSITIONS, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE. NUMBER ONE. SO, IF ANY OF THOSE BOARDS PIQUE YOUR INTEREST, GO ONLINE AND FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND WE WILL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.

AND THEN THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK, YOU MAY REMEMBER EVERY YEAR THEY DO A PEANUT BUTTER CHALLENGE THAT'S COMING UP IN THIS SEPTEMBER AGAIN.

AND SEVERAL MAYORS AND MYSELF MET TO SHOOT THE PROMOTIONAL VIDEO LAST WEEK.

HAD A LITTLE RACING INVOLVED.

I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT AND NOT SURE ABOUT THE RESULTS, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

BUT IT WAS A LOT OF FUN TO GET TOGETHER FOR A GOOD CAUSE.

SO, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE COMING UP IN SACHSE IS PART OF IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A SACHSE TEAM ONLINE TO HELP DONATE PEANUT BUTTER.

AND THERE'LL BE MORE INFORMATION COMING ABOUT THAT SOON.

BUT IT'S ALL TO HELP FIGHT HUNGER AND IT'S ALL TO HELP THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK WITH THEIR ANNUAL PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE IN SEPTEMBER.

SO, MORE INFORMATION COMING UP ON THAT.

AND THEN FINALLY, CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON SEPTEMBER 4TH.

THAT'S LABOR DAY.

AND THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR REGULAR MEETING.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

IF COUNCIL APPROVES, WE'LL MOVE THAT FROM MONDAY TO TUESDAY.

ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM C TO REPORT ON PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE JUNE 5TH, 2023, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND I WILL JUST SAY, THIS IS A NEW ITEM WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA, AND WE DO OCCASIONALLY GET PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT TALK ABOUT FACTUAL SITUATIONS.

AND SO, WHEN THEY'RE MADE DURING THAT TIME, THE AGENDA PREVENTS US FROM ADDRESSING IT AT THAT TIME BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SO, WHEN WE DO GET THOSE REQUESTS, QUESTIONS, IF YOU WILL, THEN WE NOW HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD.

AND SO, THIS IS THE FIRST INSTANCE OF THIS.

AND SO, AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THE AGENDA ITEM, THE FIRST COMMENT THAT WE WILL ADDRESS FACTUALLY IS JUNE 5TH, 2023.

WITH THAT, MISS ROSE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

LAUREN ROSE, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

AS THE MAYOR ALLUDED TO, I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, ITEM C.2 DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 5TH, A COMMENT WAS MADE BY RESIDENT MATTHEW HOLBROOK THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST PER DASH 2023-1 HUNDRED WAS SUBMITTED IN LATE MARCH AND THE INFORMATION TOOK 40 DAYS TO BE RETURNED.

AFTER REVIEWING CITY RECORDS 2023-100 WAS RECEIVED ON APRIL 21ST, 2023, AND THE RESPONSE WAS SENT ON MAY 2ND, MEANING THE RESPONSE WAS RECEIVED BY THE REQUESTER WITHIN SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS.

THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT ALLOWS FOR TEN BUSINESS DAYS AFTER THE RECEIPT OF A REQUEST FOR A RESPONSE.

THANK YOU, MS. ROSE.

QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.

IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON.

ITEM THREE REPORT ON PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE JUNE 20TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

MISS ROSE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 20TH, RESIDENT MATTHEW HERBERT COMMENTED THAT THE LAST THREE REQUESTS SENT IN HAD NOT BEEN RESPONDED TO. AFTER REVIEWING CITY RECORDS.

ALL REQUESTS SUBMITTED BY MR. HOLBROOK HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND RESPONSES SENT.

THESE CLARIFICATIONS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE FAILING TO RESPOND TO OR TAKING MORE THAN THE ALLOTTED TIME FOR A REQUEST WITHOUT CONTACT OR EXPLANATION TO THE REQUESTER IS A VIOLATION OF THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.

THANK YOU, MS. ROSE.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM D CONSENT AGENDA.

[D. Consent Agenda - All items listed on the consent agenda will be considered by the City Council and will be enacted on by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Councilmember or a member of the public so requests.]

ALL ITEMS LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED ON BY ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.

REQUEST ITEM D.1 APPROVE THE JUNE 20TH, 2023 MEETING MINUTES ITEM TO ACCEPT THE MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING MAY 31ST, 2023.

ITEM THREE ACCEPT THE MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2023.

ITEM FOUR MOVED THE SEPTEMBER 4TH MEETING TO SEPTEMBER 5TH IN OBSERVANCE OF LABOR DAY.

AND ITEM FIVE APPROVE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY, EXCUSE ME OF THE SACHSE CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

I HAVE TWO REQUESTS TO REMOVE ITEMS TO REMOVE FROM A RESIDENT.

ITEM D ONE AND D FIVE.

SO THOSE ARE REMOVED.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT 2, 3 OR 4.

IF THERE'S NO COMMENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

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ITEM C.2, 3 AND 4, D.2, 3 AND 4.

YES. PRESENTED. THANK YOU, MS. HOWARTH. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM D.2, 3 AND 4 AS PRESENTED.

MS. BUHLER? SECOND.

I HAVE A SECOND BY MS. BUHLER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 2, 3 AND 4? IF NOT, CAST YOUR BALLOT.

I THINK WE'RE. OH, THERE WE GO.

OKAY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY, SO THE REMOVED ITEMS D.1 APPROVE THE JUNE 20TH, 20, 2023 MEETING MINUTES.

[1. Approve the June 20, 2023, meeting minutes.]

THAT REQUEST BY WAS BY MATTHEW HERBERT.

MR. HERBERT.

MATTHEW. 5511 OAK RIDGE CIRCLE, SACHSE, TEXAS.

TOP OF THE HILL. DURING THE DISCUSSION ON THE MURAL FOR THE CHURCH.

THERE WAS A VERY STRONG ARGUMENT BEING MADE, SOME FROM SOME PEOPLE, FROM THE CITY STAFF OR THE COUNCIL, THAT THE VARIANCE FOR THE MURAL LASTED FOREVER AND THAT IF THIS MURAL WAS APPROVED, THAT IN TEN YEARS, IF THEY WANTED TO DO IT, YOU MAY HAVE A FLYING TRAIN OR ANY ONE OF A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT YOU DIDN'T REALLY WANT.

AND THE YOUNG LADY ATTORNEY OVER HERE SAID SHE WASN'T AWARE OF ANY STATE LAW THAT STATED THAT.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE TRUTH WAS.

WHAT WHAT IS THE RULING ON THE VARIANCE? BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS AN EVIL MURAL AND EVIL WAS COMING TO SACHSE.

IF THAT MURAL WENT UP AND IT LASTED FOREVER AND IF THE MURAL WENT UP, IT WAS THERE FOREVER.

AND SHE FELT STRONG ENOUGH TO INTERRUPT AND SAY, I'M NOT AWARE OF A STATE LAW LIKE THAT.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE IS AND IF Y'ALL CAN FIND OUT WHAT THE ANSWER IS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, AND WE'LL ALL KNOW NEXT TIME IT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY, WHAT IT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY. THAT'S THE ANSWER.

SHE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAY.

I UNDERSTAND. SO WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IF NOT. QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL. MS. HOWARD, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS D.1 AS PRESENTED.

MOTION BY MISS HOWARD TO APPROVE ITEM D.1 AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? MR. PRESTENBERG? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND BY MR. PRESTENBERG. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY. THE OTHER ITEM REMOVED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM D.5.

[5. Approve the goals and objectives of the Sachse Economic Development Corporation (EDC).]

AND I READ THAT ONE AGAIN APPROVED THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND MR. MARTY HOBUCK WOULD LIKE THAT REMOVED.

SO COME ON UP, MR. MARTY HOBUCK 5511.

OAK RIDGE CIRCLE, SACHSE, TEXAS.

TOP OF THE HILL. WHAT ARE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE EDC? OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, YOU'VE PROBABLY SPENT $10 MILLION ON THE FIFTH STREET DISTRICT.

THEY HAVE A BUDGET OF IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF PROBABLY $3 MILLION.

AND MY TAXES JUST KEEP GOING UP.

SO, WHAT DO I GAIN FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN SACHSE THAT CAN HELP MY TAXES ANY? BECAUSE THEY JUST KEEP GOING UP AND Y'ALL JUST KEEP SPENDING? IS THEIR GOAL TO DECREASE MY TAXES? IS THEIR GOAL JUST TO WATCH CHECKS GET CASHED AND PAT EACH OTHER ON THE BACK?

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WHAT IS THEIR GOAL? BECAUSE IT SEEMS VERY STRONGLY THAT DEVELOPERS ARE PRETTY SMART.

HEY, GO TO SACHSE.

TELL HIM YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD AN OIL CHANGE AND THEY'LL GIVE YOU $500,000 TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT BIOLOGIC WAS A GREAT FIND BECAUSE IT IS.

BUT MS. NASH SAID HERSELF, Y'ALL DIDN'T FIND BIOLOGIC.

THEY FOUND YOU.

LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.

THE FIRST RULE OF REAL ESTATE.

SO, WHAT ARE THEIR GOALS? IS IT TO LOWER MY TAXES BECAUSE WITH $12 MILLION, I COULD LOWER A LOT OF TAXES AROUND HERE AND PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT IS THE END GAME HERE? THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, MR. TOLBERT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM FROM COUNCIL OR THE AUDIENCE? MR. MILLSAP ON THIS ITEM.

I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT IT.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT TONIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO POSTPONE IT UNTIL NEXT WEEK OR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND LOOKING AT IT FROM JUST ON THE SURFACE WHEN IT SAYS REPRIORITIZE GOALS. AND MY GUT FEELING IS ALL GOALS SHOULD BE EQUAL IN WEIGHT, NOT REPRIORITIZE.

IF YOU HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THEM, THEY SHOULD BE LISTED AS DESIRED OUTCOMES INSTEAD OF JUST GOALS.

SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR ACTION.

OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION, SO WE WILL HAVE TO ASK FOR A SECOND BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MILLSAP TO POSTPONE ACTION ON THIS ITEM FOR A FUTURE MEETING.

RIGHT. NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

OKAY. NEXT. COUNCILMAN. IS THERE A SECOND? MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

MR. PRESTENBERG, THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM D FIVE AS PRESENTED.

MOTION BY MR. PRESTENBERG TO APPROVE ITEM D FIVE AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? MS. BUHLER SECOND HAVE A SECOND BY MS. BUHLER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MS. YEAH.

MS. HOWARTH I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR ANYONE THAT'S WATCHING OR IN THE AUDIENCE, THE EDC IS FUNDED BY A 0.5% SALES TAX.

THAT HAS BEEN UNCHANGED SINCE THE EDC WAS FORMED BECAUSE UNDER THE STATE LAW THAT AMOUNT IS SPECIFIED.

IT HAS TO BE USED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING FOR THE EDC COMES.

WHERE THE EDC HAS MONEY OR NOT DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL.

THANK YOU, MS. HOWARTH.

I GUESS ONE OTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET TONIGHT AND WE'RE PUBLISHED ON FRIDAY, SO THE GOALS ARE IN THERE. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

CAST YOUR BALLOT.

MOTION CARRIES WITH MR. MILLSAP VOTING NO.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.

[1. Consider authorizing the City Manager to execute and award the bid for the construction of the Screening Wall Replacement project, EN-23-01, to A&C Construction, Inc. in the amount of Eight Hundred Sixteen Thousand, Five Hundred and No/100 Dollars ($816,500.00)]

ITEM E.1 CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AND AWARD THE BID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SCREEN WALL REPLACEMENT PROJECT KNOWN AS EN-23-01 TO AMC CONSTRUCTION, INC.

IN THE AMOUNT OF $816,500.

MS. NASH MAYOR AND COUNCIL TONIGHT, BRIAN JAFFE, OUR ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WILL BE GIVING A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SCREENING WALL.

PART OF THAT WILL INCLUDE A BRIEF TIMELINE, BUT JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS PROJECT HAS PROBABLY BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

AS FAR AS I KNOW GOES BACK 12 YEARS.

I THINK IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL VARIOUS TIMES; I THINK AT LEAST SEVEN TIMES OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

SO, LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ALL-DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT I AM PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE, BRINGING THIS TO YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO GET TO A POINT OF DECISION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL RELATIVE TO THIS WALL.

SO WHAT BRIAN WILL BE DISCUSSING WITH YOU TONIGHT IS POTENTIALLY SHOULD YOU WANT TO AWARD A BID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS SCREENING WALL TO A AND C CONSTRUCTION, INC.

SO I'LL LET BRIAN DO HIS PRESENTATION AND ALLOW COUNCIL TO ASK ANSWER ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR DO ANY ONE OF THOSE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT.

WELCOME. THANK YOU.

THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME BEFORE US.

IT IS. I'VE SAT IN THE BACK FOR A NUMBER OF THESE MEETINGS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY MY FIRST PRESENTATION BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR.

SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

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I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SCREENING WALL REPLACEMENT PROJECT, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE HUDSON CROSSING SUBDIVISION.

IT IS ALONG MYLES ROAD, DIRECTLY SOUTH OF SACHSE HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF IT.

SO, THIS IS A LOCATION OF THE EXISTING WALL.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTO, THE WALL IS CRUMBLING.

I THINK THIS SIDE ACTUALLY FACES SACHSE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO THOSE. THE BRICKS THAT FELL ACTUALLY FELL INTO GISD PROPERTY.

THE WALL GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN MILES ROAD, ABOUT 1600 LINEAR FEET TOTAL FROM SOUTH OF SAXY HIGH.

IT IS IT IS KIND OF THE ENTRANCE TO OUR OUR CITY.

IF YOU WERE EXITING OFF OF GEORGE W BUSH OR GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE, THAT'S YOUR EXIT WOULD BE MILES YOU WOULD DRIVE RIGHT BY THIS THIS WALL.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS IN BAD CONDITION RIGHT NOW.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE WALL.

IT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH THE HUDSON CROSSING SUBDIVISION IN 1999.

IT DOES NEED REPAIRS BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.

IT'S A, YOU KNOW, 30 SOMETHING YEAR OLD WALL.

IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED.

REALLY. COUNCIL APPROVED THE DESIGN OF THE WALL ON DECEMBER 5TH OF LAST YEAR.

AND THE WALL THAT IS BEING REPLACED AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM.

AS I MENTIONED, THE PROJECT INCLUDES REMOVAL AND RECONSTRUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 1600 LINEAR FEET OF WALL.

THE NEW WALL WILL BE A PRECAST CONCRETE WALL.

WE HAD IT OUT FRONT IN THE PARKING LOT FOR ABOUT A WEEK.

I'M SURE EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

THIS TYPE OF WALL IS EXTREMELY DURABLE.

IT IS RELATIVELY EASY TO CONSTRUCT, SO IT'LL MAKE IT A QUICKER CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S A GOOD PROJECT OR A GOOD PRODUCT THAT WILL LAST A LONG TIME.

AN EXAMPLE OF THE WALL IS NEXT TO THE OLYMPUS APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT OFF OF STATE HIGHWAY 78.

JUST BEHIND THE TRAIN TRACKS.

YOU CAN SEE IT IS A 20 FOOT WALL BACK THERE.

THIS WILL ONLY BE AN EIGHT-FOOT WALL AND THE WALL IS LOCATED WITHIN A SCREENING WALL EASEMENT.

SO, WE DO HAVE AN EASEMENT TO BE ABLE TO TO WORK IN THAT.

AS FAR AS TIMELINE GOES, AS I MENTIONED, THE WALL WAS BUILT IN 1998, 1999.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY IDENTIFIED AS EARLY AS 2013 THAT IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT THE WALL WAS NEEDING TO BE REPLACED, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DISCUSSED ABOUT A DOZEN TIMES IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.

SO WE FIRST DISCUSSED THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM IN 2017.

WE DISCUSSED THE NEED TO HAVE A FORMAL PROJECT TO REPLACE THE WALL.

IN 2019.

IT WAS POSTPONED DUE TO A BOND PACKAGE IN 2020.

IT, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S JUST BEEN IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED MULTIPLE TIMES IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE PROJECT.

THAT PRODUCT THAT WE'RE GETTING, IT WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE WALLS AROUND THE CITY HALL COMPLEX.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO MATCH.

THIS IS ANOTHER DETAIL OF THE PROJECT OF THE WALL ITSELF.

IT IS ACTUALLY ABOUT A FIVE-INCH-THICK CONCRETE STRUCTURE.

THIS IS A VERY BEEFY WALL.

THIS IS NOT YOUR STANDARD THIN WALL PRODUCT.

THIS IS A MUCH MORE DURABLE, MUCH MORE LONG-LASTING WALL THAN THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE APPROVE WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER, MS. NASH, TO GO AHEAD AND AWARD THIS CONTRACT TO AMC CONSTRUCTION, INC.

THE TOTAL COST FOR THE WALL THE BID RECEIVED WAS $816,500.

WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF THREE BIDS.

IT WAS ADVERTISED ON SIEVE CAST AND IN THE NEWSPAPER.

THE LOW BIDDER WAS AMC CONSTRUCTION INC.

WE GOT REFERENCES FROM THEM AND SAW SIMILAR PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE DONE.

WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF BUILDING THIS WALL FOR US.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE THREE FOOT SCREEN WALL EASEMENT THAT I MENTIONED THAT WE DO HAVE.

SO WE DO HAVE RIGHTS TO TO REBUILD THIS WALL.

WE ARE TAKING EVERY EFFORT, HOWEVER, TO COORDINATE WITH THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT IS THEIR BACKYARD FENCE.

SO WE ARE GOING TO TO NOTIFY THEM AND WORK WITH THEM DURING CONSTRUCTION.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

WELL, WE'LL FIND OUT. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. LINDSEY. GREAT PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. WELCOME.

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I THINK MY ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS PROBABLY WILL BE TO OUR CITY MANAGER HERE, THOUGH.

BUT IT SAYS POLICY CONSIDERATIONS.

IT SAYS THE FUNDS WILL BE USED FROM THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

SO, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE COS TIE IN INTO THIS.

WHICH SLIDE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I'M LOOKING AT THE ON OUR AGENDA.

SO IT'S THE INTRO.

IT'S NOT ON THIS SLIDE DECK.

SO, IF YOU'VE GOT THE THE SCREEN UP, YOU CLICK ON ITEM D.

I'M SORRY, BUT ITEM E.1.

THE WORDS CUT THE BACKGROUND OVERVIEW POLICY CONSIDERATION RECOMMENDATION UNDER POLICY CONSIDERATIONS.

YEAH. I'M LOOKING AT THAT.

THIS IS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE FROM FUND BALANCE COUNCILMAN.

AND THAT IS AN ERROR. OKAY, GOOD.

I WAS JUST LIKE, DID NOT WANT TO SEE MONEY BORROWED ON.

THAT IS AN ERROR THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FROM UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE THAT YOU ALL SET ASIDE.

AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT THE COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK.

THE UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

GOOD. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. MR. PRESTENBERG. YES.

DID I MISS IT? BUT IF.

IF APPROVED TONIGHT.

WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FOR THAT? MAYBE I'M. LIKE HOW LONG FOR THE CONSTRUCTION? SO ONCE WE HAVE NOTICE TO PROCEED, THE CONTRACT STATES 105 DAYS OF CONSTRUCTION TIME.

SO WE WOULD HAVE THEM WE WOULD GIVE THEM NOTICE TO PROCEED AFTER RECEIVING AUTHORIZATION.

AND WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE A NEW WALL BUILT WITHIN 105 DAYS.

OKAY. SO IT WOULD IT COULD START WITHIN TWO WEEKS, A WEEK.

A MONTH. IT WOULD WE COULD CERTAINLY START WITHIN A MONTH.

OKAY. OKAY.

WOULD THIS GO HOUSE BY HOUSE OR WOULD THE WALL JUST COME DOWN? AND JUST TRYING TO THINK FROM THE RESIDENT'S STANDPOINT KNOW IF WE WENT HOUSE TO HOUSE, THEN THEY COULD PLAN ACCORDINGLY.

BUT IF NOT, THEN THEY HAD TO LOCK THEIR ANIMALS UP FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

JUST CURIOUS. SO, WE DID ACTUALLY BUILD INTO THE PROJECT PUTTING UP A TEMPORARY FENCING.

IT'LL BE A CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH A PRIVACY SCREEN ON IT SO YOU CAN'T SEE RIGHT THROUGH IT.

SO THE FIRST PHASE WILL BE DEMOLITION OF THE ENTIRE WALL.

THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT IS TEAR THE WHOLE WALL DOWN ALL AT ONCE.

THEY'LL PUT UP THE THE TEMPORARY FENCE IN THE INTERIM.

THEN THEY COME IN AND DRILL PIERS FOR THE FOOTINGS.

THEN THEY PUT IN THE COLUMNS AND THEN THEY SLIDE THE WALL IN BETWEEN THOSE.

PERFECT. OKAY. AND LAST ONE, KIND OF LIKE THE I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND FOR TOO MANY THESE PROJECTS.

RIGHT. BUT ANIMAL SHELTER, WE HAVE A QUOTE.

IT'S NO GREATER THAN THIS AMOUNT.

IS THIS 816,000? IS THERE ANY CONTINGENCY AFTER THAT OR IS IT 816 IS THE MAX THAT CAN BE CHARGED FOR THIS? SO, THERE IS NOT LIKE A NOT TO EXCEED ON THE CONTRACT.

IF THERE WERE TO BE CHANGES THAT THEY NEEDED TO INCREASE THE PRICE, THOSE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US AND BE APPROVED PRIOR TO ANY CONSTRUCTION, ANY SORT OF CHANGE ORDER.

WOULD THAT COME TO THE COUNCIL OR WOULD THAT JUST BE THROUGH YOU? I'M SORRY, MAYOR. AS LONG AS IT IS UNDER THE $50,000 THRESHOLD, I CAN APPROVE IT.

IF WE HAVE CIP FUND BALANCE OR IF IT'S OVER 50,000, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY. OKAY.

AND THEN LAST QUESTION.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR YOU, SIR, BUT THE IDEA AND THIS IS MORE FOR THE COUNCIL HERE, BUT WE RECEIVED SOME SORT OF REQUEST LIKE THIS 12 YEARS AGO, TEN YEARS AGO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THAT FAIR? I WOULD SAY THE DISCUSSION STARTS, YES, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE DID A QUOTE OR A KIND OF A LITMUS TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE.

BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THIS IS TWICE AS MUCH AS WHAT IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO, MORE THAN LIKELY.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S PROBABLY IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY ACCURATE.

I WOULD GUESS SO LIKE OTHERS MIGHT SAY, THIS PROBABLY SCARES ME, BUT THIS HAS, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS MUCH NEEDED.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MS. BUHLER, WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THIS SCREENING? DO THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF INFORMATION ON THIS NEW PRODUCT? SO THE THE DESIGN ON THE WALL IS FOR 25 YEARS.

HOWEVER, I'VE SEEN THESE WALLS LAST FOR EVEN LONGER THAN THAT.

I THINK THE ONE THAT IS.

ON STATE HIGHWAY 78.

THAT'S A 20 FOOT WALL, WHICH IS MUCH BIGGER, BUT IT'S PROBABLY 12 OR 13 YEARS OLD AND IT STILL LOOKS ALMOST BRAND NEW.

IS THERE ANY ROOM TO VALUE ENGINEER ANY PART OF THIS PROJECT TO SAVE FUNDS? BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY BIG AMOUNT.

UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO DOING THAT.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT IT IS WE GOT THE LOWEST BIDDER THAT WE COULD.

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OUR ENGINEERS ESTIMATE THE CONSULTANT.

ACTUALLY, HE ACTUALLY ESTIMATED IT WOULD BE JUST OVER $900,000.

SO, WE FELT THAT THIS WAS A PRETTY FAIR PRICE FOR THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE GETTING, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT IF COUNCIL INSTRUCTS US TO.

COUNCILWOMAN BUHLER. CAN I JUST ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? IF WE WERE TO TRY TO REDUCE THE SCOPE OR VALUE ENGINEER OR CHANGE THE PRICE ON THIS, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET A WALL OF THIS TYPE AND LONGEVITY, THIS IS THE STRUCTURE AND THE COST THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THIS.

IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT, WE WOULD HAVE TO.

THERE REALLY IS NO WAY TO VALUE ENGINEER WHAT WE HAVE IN HERE TO MAKE THIS STRUCTURE THE WAY THAT WAS DISCUSSED ORIGINALLY WITH THE TIME FRAME THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD. THE TYPE OF LIFE AND LONGEVITY THAT THIS WOULD HAVE.

AND SO, IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE, IT'D HAVE TO BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MATERIAL.

I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT WE HAD AN ALTERNATE BID TO DO A SIX-FOOT WALL INSTEAD OF THE EIGHT FEET, AND THE COST DIFFERENCE WAS ONLY ABOUT $50,000.

SO, IT WAS IT WAS NOT A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE TO MAKE THE WALL SHORTER AND THE EXISTING WALL IS EIGHT FEET.

SO, WE KNEW THAT THEY WOULD WANT AN EIGHT-FOOT WALL BACK.

OKAY. I KIND OF ECHO COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS ON THIS BEING A BIG CAUSE, BUT THIS IS OUR GATEWAY TO SUCCESS AND OUR BIGGEST AREA OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE JUST WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE TAKE BURDEN OFF OF OUR TAXPAYERS.

SO ALTHOUGH THIS IS A REALLY BIG PRICE, THIS WILL LAST A LONG TIME.

AND IT'S NOT LIKE A FENCE.

IF WE DID A BOARD ON BOARD FENCE, WE WOULD NEED TO RESTAIN IT EVERY THREE YEARS.

WE WOULD NEED TO REPAIR IT AND REPLACE IT, YOU KNOW, IN TEN YEARS.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPTION, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WISH THIS PROJECT COST LESS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS YEAH, IT DOES SEEM LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A DOZEN TIMES, MORE OR LESS.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE. THERE'S A REASON WHY IT SEEMS LIKE IT.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THE FAILURE POINTS THAT THE CURRENT WALL HAS.

THESE ARE PRECAST PANELS.

SO THIS IS A VALUE ENGINEERED PRODUCT.

OTHER OPTIONS WERE GOING TO BE QUITE, QUITE A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE AND OR HAVE THE ABILITY TO FAIL AT MORE OF A RAPID OR MORE COMMON RATE. THE PIERS UNDERGROUND PIERS WERE MY BIG CONCERN THAT WAS ADDRESSED.

I WANT THIS TO PASS AND MOVE ON OR DIE AND NEVER COME BACK.

I THINK JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, THE PRICE TAG SHOCKS ME.

BUT THE PRICE TAG OF EVERYTHING SHOCKS ME.

RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOTHING THAT HASN'T SHOCKED ME.

I WOULD LOVE TO PUT IT ON THE RESONANCE THAT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT I FEEL THAT THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, OR YOU'LL GET.

PIECEMEAL AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S JUST MY $0.02.

I'LL DO IT. THERE YOU GO. OKAY.

MR. MILLSAP, I THINK THIS IS.

ON SACHSE ROAD OR MILES ROAD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND MOST USED.

PUBLIC ROAD ACCESS INTO THE SACHSE AND SEES ALL THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

VERY, VERY PUBLIC.

OR ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC NOTICING WHAT WE HAVE.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED.

FOR A LONG TIME, IT'S BEEN I'M SHOCKED AT THE PRICE ALSO, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WORTHWHILE TO THE COMMUNITY, BE AN ASSET NOT JUST TO GET RID OF THE WALL THERE, BUT JUST COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.

THEREFORE, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT ITEM E ONE AS PRESENTED.

IF I CAN GET YOU ALL, WE DO HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK.

OKAY, SO HOLD THAT THOUGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR. WE DO HAVE A CARD.

MARTY. HOBUCK.

MARTY HOBUCK 5511.

OAK RIDGE CIRCLE. TOP OF THE HILL.

IS THIS THE NEW CITY STANDARD? IF ANYBODY WANTS TO BUILD A SCREENING WALL IN SACHSE, IS THIS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD? THAT QUESTION'S BEEN BROUGHT UP FOR OVER A YEAR.

AND. MINUTE 33 OF THE DECEMBER 5TH MEETING.

THAT GENTLEMAN RIGHT THERE SAID THAT ALL YOU WERE APPROVING WAS A CONSTRUCTION FEASIBILITY STUDY. AND THAT'S A DIRECT QUOTE.

SO IF WE NEED TO HAVE A REPORT NEXT WEEK, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

AND HERE WE ARE.

IT'S BEEN AWARDED.

WELL, IT HASN'T BEEN AWARDED, BUT IT'S BEEN DESIGNED.

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IT'S BEEN BID.

IT'S. IT'S READY TO GO.

AND I SAT HERE AND SAID ON DECEMBER 5TH.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS.

THE TRAIN'S GONE.

AND I'M WILLING TO BET THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND THERE'S BEEN NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IT WENT FROM IT'S A CONSTRUCTION FEASIBILITY STUDY TO HERE IT IS.

LET'S PROVE IT AND MOVE ON.

IT'S A LIE.

SO THIS DOESN'T COUNT AS DISCUSSION? NO, NOT AT ALL.

IT'S A DONE DEAL.

AND IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT AND YOU WANT TO SAY THAT'S INTEGRITY AND TRANSPARENCY, BE MY GUEST.

WE'RE GOT TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.

IS. ARE THERE MIDPOINT CONNECTIONS ALLOWED ON THIS PANEL? SO IF I'M BUILDING MY FENCE DOWN, CAN I DRILL INTO THE PANEL AND ATTACH MY FENCE TO IT? HOPE YOU GOT AN ANSWER.

IS THIS THE CITY STANDARD FROM NOW ON? I'M ASSUMING YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

SO IF SOME CRAZY SOMETHING HAPPENS AND A CAR GOES INTO A PANEL, IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO FIX IT.

LET'S JUST GET THAT CLEAR, TOO.

THAT'S ALL. IF THIS IS TRANSPARENCY IN THE CITY OF SACHSE, WHERE YOU CAN GO FROM CONSTRUCTION, FEASIBILITY STUDY, AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS UNTIL YOU GET THE DESIGN.

YEAH, YEAH.

YOU PUT IT OUT FOR BID AND AWAY WAYS IT GOES.

GET READY FOR A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION.

THAT'LL DO ME. THANKS.

THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE? OKAY, WE DO HAVE A MOTION.

LET'S ADDRESS THAT FIRST.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MILLSAP. A SECOND? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY.

SO, MR. MILLSAP, FOR THE RECORD, WILL YOU RESTATE YOUR MOTION? LET ME TURN YOU ON. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT ITEM E.5.

ALL RIGHT. E.1.

E.1 AS PRESENTED.

OKAY. MOTION BY MR. MILLSAP TO APPROVE ITEM E.1 AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION? MR. LINDSEY SECOND.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND.

AND NOW I'M GOING TO TURN YOU BACK ON AND.

OH, YOU'RE ON. GO AHEAD. YEAH, JUST I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH MR. HOBUCK ON THE PREMISE THAT IF YOU'RE ALREADY INVESTED IN THE DESIGN, IT'S HARD TO BACK AWAY.

THEN SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS I HAVE IS I LOOK AT THE COSTS JUST TO REMOVE THE WALL.

I WAS DEFINITELY A PROPONENT OF LET'S JUST CONDEMN THE WALLS AND LET THE HOMEOWNERS REBUILD FENCES.

I SEE THE CITY'S PART OF IT IS ABOUT 150 GRAND TO REMOVE.

AND THERE'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ON OTHER LINE ITEMS BASED ON TRAFFIC CONTROL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO, WE'RE IN WE'RE ALREADY IN IT.

WE'VE ALREADY MADE PROMISES OVER THE VARIOUS YEARS.

I JUST I DON'T WANT TO SEE A PRECEDENT SET BY THIS.

I MEAN, WE'RE SO CONCERNED WITH THE MURAL AND WHAT KIND OF PRECEDENT THAT IT SETS.

THIS IS A FINANCIAL OBLIGATION.

CERTAINLY, WE'RE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL.

IF THE FENCE IS DAMAGED OR DESTROYED, IT IS UPON THE CITY.

WE'VE NOW SET THAT OBLIGATION ON THERE.

BUT WITH ALL THAT SAID, IT IS THE GATEWAY INTO SACHSE.

I LOOK AT IT, I LOOK IN THE CURRENT CONDITION.

I THINK THE WORST THING THAT WE CAN DO NOW IS TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN AND NOT MAKE A DECISION JUST TO GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE THIS TODAY.

OKAY, MR. PRESTENBERG? YES.

SO ON THE FOURTH SLIDE, IT SAYS THIS WALL WILL BE REPLACED AS THE INITIAL PROJECT DESCRIBED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM.

SO THIS IS THE THING THAT PEOPLE IN OUR IN OUR CITY CAN APPLY FOR, AND IT GETS RANKED AND ORDERED AND WHATNOT AND THEN VOTED UPON BASED ON BUDGET THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. SO, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT'S SETTING PRECEDENT.

I THINK IT'S SETTING AN IDEA THAT, HEY, THIS MPP PROGRAM WORKS.

WE HAVE AN EYESORE IN THE CITY THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR OVER A DECADE.

LET'S GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

WHAT OTHER THINGS DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY SEE? SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT START.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.

NEXT YEAR MIGHT BE A WAY SMALLER PROJECT.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL.

ARE YOU OKAY, MR. LINDSEY? YEAH. NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP.

A PARTNERSHIP IS MULTIPLE PEOPLE OR ENTITIES COMING TOGETHER.

THIS IS A CITY TAKING FULL RESPONSIBILITY.

HOMEOWNERS ARE HAVE BEEN LEFT WITH NO RESPONSIBILITY.

SO MY PRECEDENT AROUND THERE IS I HOPE THAT FUTURE PROJECTS CAN TRULY BE A PARTNERSHIP.

AND I HOPE THAT FUTURE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS WITH RESIDENTS THAT ARE AFFECTED, YOU KNOW, DON'T GET TOLD DIFFERENT THINGS OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN BE BETTER ABOUT RECORDING COMMUNICATION AND WHAT WAS PROMISED AND WHAT WASN'T.

AND THIS ONE, I KNOW A LOT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE UNDERNEATH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

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SO I FEEL LIKE ON THIS, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S UNDERNEATH THE DISGUISE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM.

THIS IS THE CITY PAYING FOR THIS WHOLE PROJECT.

PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GETTING A FREEBIE ON THIS ONE BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID OVER THE PAST, AND COUNCIL'S NOT TAKEN AN ACTION TO DO SOMETHING SOONER.

MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

WELL, I WAS GOING TO REFRAIN, BUT NOW I'M GOING TO ASK YOU WHAT PROMISES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE COUNCIL PROMISED THIS BACK TO MR. LINDSEY PROMISES.

WHAT PROMISES WERE MADE? SURE. JUST OVER THE YEARS.

AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE WRITTEN DOWN.

WE RUN INTO SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH UP ON VICKSBURG AS FAR AS FLOODING, WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID OVER THE YEARS, STAFF COMES OUT, THEY TALK TO A PARTICULAR PERSON AND SAID, YEAH, THIS THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS IT'S ALL ANTIDOTAL.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE RECORDINGS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

WE'VE JUST GOT PEOPLE COMING TO US, ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT HAVE SAID, HEY, THE CITY WAS OUT HERE.

THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS WALL.

SO, MY COMMENTS ARE IN THE FUTURE, WHENEVER WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS THAT WE WRITE THEM DOWN.

IT'S RECORDED.

YOU KNOW, TODAY WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER WORLD BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS DO HAPPEN BY EMAIL.

SO IF WE GO OUT AND WE TALK TO SOMEBODY, MAYBE WE FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL AND SAID, HEY, I WENT BY YOUR PROPERTY, THIS IS NOT A CITY RESPONSIBILITY THAT WAY.

IT'S ON RECORD. WHENEVER THEY COME BACK IN TEN YEARS, THE CITY WAS OUT HERE AND SAID THAT THEY COULD TAKE CARE OF THIS.

WE'VE GOT ON RECORD. IT'S LIKE, NO, THIS, THIS WAS WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S IN REGARD TO.

WE'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE EVOLVED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES TO WHERE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN TOLD DIFFERENT THINGS BY THE CITY.

AND THAT'S MY POINT TO IT.

MR. PRESTENBERG YEAH, JUST I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, COUNCILMAN.

MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS AND I THINK THAT.

THAT AREA WAS BUILT IN OR CONSTRUCTED IN 1999 OR THAT WALL WAS PUT UP.

I DIDN'T MOVE HERE UNTIL OH ONE, SO BUT I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT WAS A WILD WEST AT SOME TIME WHERE THINGS WERE PUT UP AND MAYBE AGREEMENTS WEREN'T DONE WITH SOME OF THE BUILDING THAT WERE GOING ON. SO WE'RE PAYING FOR THE TRANSGRESSIONS OF PREVIOUS BUILDERS AND STUFF, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL UNDER.

I WON'T SAY UNDER WRAPS, BUT WE THINGS HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED PROPERLY AND WITH NEW BUILDS.

I WOULD HOPE AND I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD PLAN OUT THERE GOING FORWARD ON SOME OF THESE RETAINING WALLS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE BIG CONCERN WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

AND JUST TO ADDRESS MR. HOLBROOKE'S COMMENT, YES, HE IS CORRECT.

WE DID DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY OR ASKED THE STAFF TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

I DID SPECIFICALLY.

SO NO DISPUTE THERE.

AND THEN WHAT STAFF DID WAS THEY WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY.

AND THEN THEY SAID, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO WORK.

AND THEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN IT CAME BACK TO US.

AND WE CAN SAY TONIGHT WE CAN SAY YES, NO, MAYBE AND HAD OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

DIDN'T GET ANY EMAILS BEFORE THE MEETING.

SO YEAH, I'M VERY GOOD WITH THE TRANSPARENCY OF HOW WE'RE DOING IT.

OKAY. WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM E TO DISCUSS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION ON REESTABLISHING A LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.

[2. Discuss and provide direction on reestablishing a local business grant program.]

MS. NASH.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

JARED POTTS, WHO IS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION TONIGHT ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT THE EDC DISCUSSED RECENTLY RELATIVE TO SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO RECEIVE GRANTS AND BE ABLE TO DO SOME APPROVALS OF THOSE AT THE STAFF LEVEL.

AND SO WE WANTED THAT THIS PROGRAM TO COME TO YOU FORMALLY.

NOW THAT THE EDC HAS HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, FOR THE COUNCIL TO GIVE YOU OUR FEEDBACK ON THIS PROGRAM AND ANY DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD ON IT.

HELLO, MR. POTTS. HELLO, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

AS MS. NASH ALLUDED TO, IT IS A REESTABLISHMENT OF A PROGRAM THAT EXISTED BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

JUST QUICKLY, PRESENTATION OUTLINE.

I'LL GO THROUGH A PROPOSED FRAMEWORK, PROVIDE SOME DETAILS, WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE ELIGIBLE AND INELIGIBLE PROJECTS, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH NEXT STEPS AND TALK ABOUT DISCUSSION. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING IS ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.

SO APPROVING THE LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM AS PART OF THE EDC BUDGET.

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AND WHAT WE HAVE REQUESTED IN THE FY 2024 BUDGET IS $100,000 FOR THIS LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT LINE ITEM.

STAFF TO CREATE A STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED BY A GRANT REQUESTER.

THE APPLICANT WOULD BE APPLICATION WOULD BE REVIEWED BY STAFF FOR COMPLETENESS.

AND THEN TO NOTE THIS PROCESS WOULD, AS I HINTED AT, REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THAT LINE ITEM WITHIN THE EDC BUDGET.

AND SO IF APPROVED, THE EDC BOARD WOULD HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AT A FUTURE MEETING TO AUTHORIZE THE EXPENDITURE OF THOSE FUNDS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH OTHER INCENTIVES.

THEN THERE'S THE 60 DAY WAITING PERIOD AND SO FORTH.

SOME DETAILS. THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO ENHANCE THE HIGHWAY 78 CORRIDOR.

RESEMBLE OR I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME, REIMBURSEMENT GRANT ONCE THE WORK HAS BEEN VERIFIED BY CITY STAFF.

BUILDING YOUR SITE COULD NOT HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING WITHIN THAT YEAR, SO THEY MUST WAIT ESSENTIALLY ONE YEAR FROM ONCE A PROJECT HAD BEEN APPROVED.

AND FOR THE COMMERCIAL CENTERS THAT HAVE JUST ONE OWNER AND MULTIPLE TENANTS, THEY'RE LIMITED TO ONE PROJECT PER YEAR.

SO WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO WHEN WE REFER TO A GRANT IS MAXIMUM GRANT OF $25,000.

SO THE APPLICANT MUST PAY AT LEAST 25% OF THAT IN THE EDC PORTION CANNOT EXCEED 75% OF THE COSTS OR $25,000.

APPLICATION WOULD HAVE TO BE PROVIDED TO US BEFORE THE WORK BEGINNING.

AND WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED IS TO FOLLOW ESSENTIALLY THE TIRZ #3 BOUNDARY.

AND I HAVE A SLIDE HERE THAT ILLUSTRATES THAT EXCLUDING THE WOODBRIDGE CORNERS AREA BUT INCLUDING THE OAK GROVE PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER.

SO, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE, THERE IS A RED LINE OF DEMARCATION THAT ESSENTIALLY PROVIDES THE AREAS THAT WOULD BE EXCLUDED ESSENTIALLY ON THE NORTHEAST OF WHERE THAT LINE IS LOCATED.

AND THE REASONING FOR THAT BEING THAT THOSE ARE NEW BUILDINGS FOR THE MOST PART.

AND THIS GRANT PROGRAM IS REALLY ENVISIONED MORE AS AN ESTHETIC, AMONG OTHER THINGS, BUT ENHANCING THE VISIBILITY FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE CORRIDOR AND SO FORTH.

SO WITH OAK GROVE PLAZA, YOU'VE GOT AN OLDER CENTER.

AND SO WE ARE SUGGESTING OR RECOMMENDING INCLUDING THAT WITHIN THIS SUBJECT AREA.

IT'S A BIT OF AN EYE CHART ON THIS SLIDE, BUT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS, GENERALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROJECTS THAT ARE COVERED UNDER THE STATE CODE.

SO SECTION 501, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, ESSENTIALLY WHAT TYPE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS ARE ABLE TO FUND EXISTING BUILDING OR SITES LOCATED IN THE PROGRAM BOUNDARIES. SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD NOT BE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? THIS WOULD BE FOR ENHANCING OR REMODELING OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, IMPROVING AN EXISTING SITE.

SO, WE HAVE A TABLE BELOW THAT LISTS GENERALLY THE PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE.

AND SO, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY OUR GUIDEPOST, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN SOME SORT OF AN APPLICATION YOU MADE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIGNAGE.

SO NEW SIGNS OR REPLACEMENT OF NONCONFORMING AND PULL SIGNS, REMOVAL OF EXISTING SIGNS, PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS, GREASE TRAPS.

AGAIN, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE THERE.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FACADE SPECIFICALLY, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF REHABILITATION ITEMS. THEY'RE LISTED. SO EXTERIOR TREATMENTS, BRICK, STUCCO WOULD AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE BUILDING MATERIALS, WINDOW ENHANCEMENTS, CANOPIES, WINDOW AWNINGS, ESSENTIALLY THINGS THAT ENHANCE THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING, LANDSCAPING, SCREENING, STREETSCAPE AND HARDSCAPE.

SO TREE PLANTINGS, THINGS THAT ARE PERMANENT, RIGHT, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THE BUILDING IS ESSENTIALLY THE KEY TAKEAWAY HERE.

SO WHAT WE WOULD NOT BE DOING IS GIVING SOMEBODY MONEY OR PARTICIPATING IN A GRANT TO GIVE SOMEBODY WORKOUT EQUIPMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, IT WOULD BE FOR ITEMS THAT STAY PERMANENTLY WITH THE BUILDING.

DEMOLITION. SO REMOVAL OF COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES, DERELICT OR DILAPIDATED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

AND THEN BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT THE PREVIOUS EDC BOARD MEETING, SOME INTERIOR RENOVATIONS AND REMODELING CONSIDERED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, SUBJECT TO BEING ABLE TO MEET STATE GOVERNMENT CODE.

SO AGAIN, HERE ARE SOME INELIGIBLE PROJECTS.

RESIDENTIAL OR NONCOMMERCIAL MENTIONED NEW COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION, BURGLAR BARS, ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY TO JUST GO MOW SOMEBODY'S GRASS.

EXPLICIT SIGNAGE CONTENT.

THIS IS INTENDED TO BE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE WORK THAT IS DONE TO PROVIDE THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL STRUCTURE.

SO PROFESSIONAL FEES, ANY KIND OF CITY FEES WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

SO YOU PROVIDE US WITH THE RECEIPT, WE WOULD VERIFY IT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE REIMBURSING BASED ON.

AND THEN THE PROGRAM NOT OPEN TO APPOINTED AND OR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND EXCLUDES PROJECTS FOR ANYBODY RELATED BY BLOOD MARRIAGE TO AN APPOINTED OR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

SO NEXT STEPS.

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WE ARE NOT REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL ACTION THIS EVENING.

WE WILL BE TAKING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO THE BOARD.

OUR MEETING IS IN AUGUST 17TH AND WE WILL BE TAKING THAT FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL.

I WILL BE PUTTING IT INTO ESSENTIALLY A SUMMARY SLIDE AND IT WILL BE AN ACTION ITEM FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BY RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM. SO AGAIN, AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THAT LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT LINE ITEM WITHIN OUR BUDGET, THAT'S WHAT WE GET THE SPENDING AUTHORITY FOR THIS.

AND THEN THE EDC BOARD WOULD HAVE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOWING ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT IS THAT MECHANISM FOR ALLOWING FOR US TO EXPEND THOSE FUNDS.

AND I WENT PRETTY QUICKLY. BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU, MR. VICE MAYOR, PRO TEM FRANKS.

ALL RIGHT, JARED, WHY DID THIS PROGRAM FAIL THREE YEARS AGO? SURE. SO IS THIS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME VERY SIMILAR, I'LL SAY VERY SIMILAR PROGRAM GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT KIND OF PREVIOUS THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM, I THINK IT WAS FROM WHAT I CAN FIND DONE IN 2012.

SO THERE WAS A LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.

MONEY WAS PUT INTO IT.

WE DID USE THAT AS SORT OF A NORTH STAR, IF YOU WILL, FOR HOW WE STRUCTURED THIS ONE.

THERE WAS ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH YOU MIGHT RECALL, DURING THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC.

THAT WAS A SEPARATE DEAL.

SO JUST FOR THE POINT OF INFORMATION THERE.

SO AS FAR AS WHY THIS PROGRAM FAILED, BECAUSE THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME, I CANNOT PROVIDE.

HOLISTIC ANSWER. I'LL GIVE YOU MY REASON, BUT GO AHEAD.

CONTINUE YOUR STATEMENT. BUT I LIKE THIS ANSWER BETTER BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES WITH THE BOARD.

AND A KEY ELEMENT WILL BE HOW WE MARKET AND PROMOTE AND DISCUSS THIS PROGRAM, NOT LIMITED TO JUST THE FACEBOOK OR SOCIAL MEDIA PIECE, BUT ON THE BUSINESS VISITS WHEN WE'RE PHYSICALLY GOING TO VISIT PEOPLE COMMUNICATING.

LOOK, THIS EXISTS BECAUSE MY FEAR WITH THIS PROGRAM COUNCIL MEMBER IS NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO OVERSPEND, IT'S THAT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO SPEND IT.

SO I WANT TO MAKE IT HARDER.

I DON'T LIKE THE 7525 NUMBER.

IT NEEDS TO BE 5050 LIKE IT WAS BEFORE TO ME.

THE BOUNDARY TRES THREE AND OAK GROVE.

AND WHY NOT THE 78 CORRIDOR AS A WHOLE? SURE. SO WHENEVER WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS, LOOKING AT HEARKENING BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EVEN FROM 2017, THERE WAS REFERENCE TO A FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

AND SO COULD YOU PUT THAT MAP BACK UP? YES, SIR. SO IN HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON THIS, CONTEMPLATING THE AREAS IN SACHSE WHERE PROBABLY THE MOST REHABILITATION WOULD BE NECESSARY, EXCLUDING THE WOODBRIDGE CORNERS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE FOR THE MOST PART, NEWER CONSTRUCTION.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT LINE IS.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE THE RANCH HOUSE IS LOCATED.

SO THINGS TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THAT USING THE BOUNDARY GAVE US A KIND OF A CLEAR EXISTING MAP, IF YOU WILL.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OPENING THAT UP.

YEAH, WE'LL AGREE TO DISAGREE.

I THINK THE 78 FIFTH STREET AREA IS IN THE MOST NEED OF REHABILITATION, IN MY OPINION, AND THAT CAN OR CAN INCLUDE OR EXCLUDE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, BUT BOTH OF THOSE AREAS.

ARE NOT APPETIZING TO THE EYE.

THOSE ARE THOSE ARE INCLUDED JUST FOR THE FOR THE RECORD, THE HISTORY DISTRICT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT IN.

OKAY. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE BLUE ON THE MAP.

NO, SIR. AND I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.

SO THIS IS THE MAP, RIGHT? THE ORANGE TRANSPARENT COLOR IS THE DALLAS COUNTY PIECE.

THANKS FOR CLARIFYING. YES, SIR.

SO IT WILL BE LIKE ONLY THE BLUE AREA WAS.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MAKES ME FEEL MUCH BETTER.

THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH.

IN MY OPINION, THE LAST PROGRAM KIND OF DIED BECAUSE WE APPROVED A BUNCH OF EDC, APPROVED A BUNCH OF THESE GRANTS, AND IT WAS THE FUNDING ISSUE.

IT WAS 5050 AFTER IT'S BUILT, AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY UP FRONT TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET OUR 50 UNTIL.

IT'S DONE. SUBMIT YOUR RECEIPTS.

SO I LIKE THE 5050.

I LIKE THE PROGRAM.

BUT I DON'T LIKE THE 25 MINIMUM ON THE APPLICANT AND THE 75 MAXIMUM ON THE EDC.

I DON'T LIKE THAT PART OF IT.

YOU CLARIFIED THE TERTIARY BOUNDARY, SO THANK YOU.

THAT CLARIFIES THAT.

CITY OFFICIALS APPOINTED OR ELECTED OR EXCUSE ME.

IT SAYS PROGRAM IS NOT OPEN TO APPOINTED OR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

DOES THAT JUST WITHIN THE CITY OR IS THAT COUNTY STATE? I MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS FOR SOME CLARIFICATION.

YES, SIR. THE VISION OF THE SPIRIT THERE WAS FOR SACHSE, I WOULD ASSUME.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, MR. PRESTENBERG. THANKS, JARED, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

TWO THINGS YOU HAD ON YOUR LOCAL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.

EXAMPLES, THE LANDSCAPING AND WHATNOT.

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WHAT SORT OF REQUIREMENT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE FOR THEM TO.

CARE FOR IT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE PLANT A TREE. I DON'T WANT IT TO COME BACK TWO YEARS FROM NOW AND DIG IT UP AND REPLANT ANOTHER ONE.

SO IS THERE ANY SORT OF REQUIREMENT FOR VEGETATION TYPE STUFF? I THINK WHAT WE COULD LOOK AT ONCE WE'VE GOT THE KIND OF THE FEEDBACK FROM EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT MAINTAINING IT.

I'VE SEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THERE IS AN ONUS ON THAT INDIVIDUAL WHO RECEIVES THE FUNDING TO TO MAINTAIN FOR X NUMBER OF YEARS, WHICH SHOULD SEEM LIKE A GIVEN, BUT OF COURSE SOME DON'T. SO I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY FACTOR THAT INTO THE.

OKAY. THE PROGRAM.

AND THEN THE I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE CONCERNED WAS NOT USING OR UTILIZING ALL THE FUNDS OR THE FUNDS AVAILABLE OR WHATNOT.

BUT LET'S SAY IN THE SHOPPING CENTER THERE AT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE KROGER SHOPPING CENTER IS OWNED BY ONE ENTITY OR IF IT'S OWNED BY SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONES.

BUT LET'S ASSUME THERE'S 20 DIFFERENT ONES.

ARE WE ARE WE EXPECTING ENOUGH FUNDING IN THIS ACCOUNT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO RANK ORDER OR FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YES, SIR. GREAT QUESTION.

I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.

SO OAK GROVE PLAZA, THE KROGER SHOPPING CENTER, THERE ARE KIND OF DIFFERENT AREAS THERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S ONE OWNERSHIP GROUP.

WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THIS PROGRAM IS EXPEDIENCY RELATIVE TO BEING ABLE TO REACT IN TERMS OF SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO COME, THEY WANT TO DO SOME PROJECT AND THIS JUST GIVES STAFF KIND OF A GENERAL FRAMEWORK TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, HERE WE GO.

WE KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS BOUGHT IN ON THIS, THE BOARD HAS, AND WE CAN ADMINISTER THIS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE TYPICAL PROCESS, WHICH ANYBODY WOULD BE WELCOME TO DO.

SO SACHSE PLAZA, FOR EXAMPLE, OAK GROVE PLAZA, ANY OF THESE CENTERS THAT HAVE PERHAPS ONE OWNER IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TENANTS, THEY MIGHT COME TO US AND SAY, I'M INTERESTED IN THIS PROGRAM.

I NEED MORE THAN $25,000 AND WE COULD WORK WITH THEM AND WALK THROUGH THE NORMAL INCENTIVE PROCESS.

THIS IS JUST FOR THOSE MORE TO GIVE US SOME AGILITY AND FLEXIBILITY FOR THOSE KINDS OF QUICKER FIXES, IF YOU WILL.

RIGHT. BUT THERE'S NO NEED TO RANK ORDER.

SO, IF YOU HAVE A SACHSE NUTRITION FARMERS OR I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ALL THOSE THINGS IN A ROW THERE, BUT IF ALL FOUR OF THOSE ENTITIES CAME AND THEY WERE SEPARATE OWNERS.

THERE'S NO NEED TO RANK ORDER THEM BECAUSE YOU THINK THERE'S ENOUGH FUNDING OR BELIEVE THERE'D BE ENOUGH FUNDING TO CARE FOR ALL OF IT.

AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD DO IS IN THAT CASE, IT WOULD THERE'S IT GIVES SOME DISCRETION FOR FOR STAFF, OF COURSE.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ASSUMING THAT A BUNCH OF THEM CAME IN AT ONE TIME, WE'D PROBABLY EVALUATE THEM AND DO SOME SORT OF A FORCED RANK.

OTHERWISE, IF WE DID AWARD ONE AND THAT WAS ALL IN IN ONE OWNERSHIP, THE INTENT OF THIS WOULD BE THEN TO TELL THE OWNER OF THAT CENTER, OKAY, YOU EITHER WAIT A YEAR OR YOU COULD COME TO US THROUGH THE THE OTHER PROCESS, IF YOU WILL.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY BUSINESS THAT'S OWNED SEPARATELY, SEPARATE ENTITIES, THAT THEY ALL FEEL LIKE IT'S A FAIR PROCESS.

THAT'S ALL. SURE. UNDERSTOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS. MS. BUHLER. YOU KIND OF CLARIFIED MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. I'M SORRY.

HOLD ON. HIT YOUR BUTTON ONE MORE TIME.

THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO. YOU ALREADY ADDRESSED SOME OF MY COMMENTS THAT COUNCILMAN FRANKS BROUGHT UP.

I WAS CONCERNED WITH THE BOUNDARIES AS WELL BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, BEN DAVIS TO RANCH ROAD IS SOME OF THE AREAS THAT NEED REVITALIZATION THE MOST.

HOWEVER, I DISAGREE.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO DO THESE PROJECTS.

I DO LIKE THE 2575 BECAUSE LOOKING AT THESE PROPERTIES COMPARED TO OUR NEWER STATION DEVELOPMENT, WE REALLY NEED TO HELP THESE BUSINESSES GET UP TO DATE.

AND SO, THEY CAN FLOURISH IN THIS ECONOMY AND WE CAN KEEP MOVING OUR CITY FORWARD.

SO, THANK YOU.

MR. LINDSEY YEAH.

ALSO, I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES THERE.

I LOOKED AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

IT WAS APPROVED BY ALL SACHSE VOTERS.

IT'S A CITYWIDE UNLESS THERE'S SOME KIND OF COST SHARING BACK INTO THE TIRZ, I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY IT NEEDS TO BE LIMITED TO A SPECIFIC AREA. SO, I'D RATHER SEE IT OPEN FOR ALL OF SACHSE, AS FAR AS THE MAXIMUM GRANT, I LIKE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE. IT SAYS APPLICANT MUST PAY AT LEAST 25% OF THE COST.

SO, THERE'S FLEXIBILITY THERE.

I THINK FOR US, YOU KNOW, I THINK ON THE APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE WORDED WHERE IT'S A 5050, BUT WE'RE UNDERNEATH EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES. MAYBE WE CAN GO TO 25%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT IT GIVES THE FLEXIBILITY.

I LIKE LEAVING FLEXIBILITY IN IT.

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MS. HOWARTH. YEAH, I THINK MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY INSIGHT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BOUNDARY.

WHEN THIS WAS BEING DISCUSSED AT THE EDC MEETING, THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH ON THAT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $100,000, WHICH IN THEORY WAS FOR PROJECTS ASSUMING PEOPLE TAKE THE MAX, WHICH IS NOT MAYBE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THAT THE DISCUSSION WAS WHEN YOU'RE STARTING A NEW PROGRAM, WHERE CAN YOU, RATHER THAN SPREAD THE LOVE ALL OVER THE WHOLE CITY, WHERE CAN WE MAKE A MAKE AN OUTCOME OR MAKE A DIFFERENCE BY PUTTING IT IN ONE SPOT, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A FEW MILES WORTH OF SPOTS.

BUT I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE WHERE THE NEED IS IN THIS TOWN FOR THIS SORT OF THING.

LIKE MOST OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO NEED ASSISTANCE ARE LOCATED IN THAT TRES THREE BOUNDARY ALONG 78.

AND I THINK OUR RESIDENTS WOULD PROBABLY AGREE DRIVING UP AND DOWN 78 THAT THAT'S WHERE THE NEED IS.

WE WE DID DISCUSS IT AT EDC AND THAT THIS IS.

THAT SUBJECT TO CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT.

IF THIS GOES GANGBUSTERS AND WE THINK IT'S GREAT AND WE WANT TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY OR WE WANT TO ADD SPACE, THAT IS, WE'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO CHANGE IT IF IT'S NOT WORKING THE WAY THAT WE THINK IT IS AND WE OR WE, THE PEOPLE WE HAVE APPLYING AREN'T IN THAT BOUNDARY, THEN WE'RE SUBJECT TO ADJUSTMENT IN THE FUTURE AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.

BUT IT'S NOT. YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.

AND THIS SEEMED LIKE A FAIR PLACE TO START AND MAYBE SEE SOME RESULTS WITH TAXPAYER MONEY.

BUT IT PROBABLY WASN'T A PANACEA TO SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS IN THE CITY, AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.

I HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT WE'LL HAVE TROUBLE GETTING PEOPLE TO APPLY.

MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ENDED UP LAST TIME.

SO I REALLY WANT TO SEE WHAT THIS DOES IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

IF I MAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE EDC START SMALL, POSSIBLY EXPAND IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH. OKAY. MR. MILLSAP? OKAY. ON YOUR UPFRONT PROPOSED FRAMEWORK, IT SAYS THE STAFF WILL CREATE A STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION AND STAFF WILL EVALUATE THESE.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT SAYS THE EDC BOARD IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE DECISION MAKING.

I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT REWORDED A LITTLE BIT THAT NOT THE STAFF IS GOING TO JUST DO IT.

BOARD IS GETTING INVOLVED IN IT.

ALSO, I THINK IT JUST A MATTER OF PUBLIC AWARENESS THAT WE DO HAVE A BOARD AND THEY NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE THINGS.

THE 25%, 25,000, I THINK IS FINE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE I'M LIKE, COUNCILMAN FRANKS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FIXED NUMBER THERE RATIO OR OTHERWISE.

IT'S A VARIABLE.

SOMEBODY GETS 25% AND THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO PAY 25,000.

THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO PAY 25% OF THE TOTAL COST AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY GETTING 25,000 IS GOING TO HAVE TO MATCH IT WITH 25,000.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME GUIDELINES IN THAT AREA THERE.

AND ALSO, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TIRZ, I WOULD LIKE TO THIS CENTER IDENTIFYING TIRZ, IT SHOULD BE STATED THAT ANY ELIGIBLE PROJECT WILL BE SOMETHING HAS ALREADY BEEN IMPROVED IN THE TIRZ PLAN, AS THE STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A PLAN AND IDENTIFY PROJECTS AND ANTICIPATED BUDGETS.

AND SO, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THAT GUIDELINE OR WE'LL BE JUST GIVING UP, POTENTIALLY GIVING OUT MONEY FOR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. OKAY.

SO I CAN ADDRESS JUST ONE OF THE THE FIRST COMMENT YOU MADE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MILLSAP THE THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVELY THE PROPOSAL IS FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROGRAM.

AND SO THE BOARD WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY AUTHORIZING AND THEN THE COUNCIL, BY VIRTUE OF APPROVING THE BUDGET THIS FRAMEWORK FOR THE FOR THE STAFF ADMINISTRATION OF THE MONEY. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT IS ENVISIONED TO BE.

ANY OTHER INCENTIVE REQUEST WOULD COME THROUGH THE TYPICAL PROCESS EDC BOARD, CITY COUNCIL.

MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

YEAH, THIS IS BEFORE JARED AND BEFORE MICHELLE WAS LIAISON.

GINA AND MAYOR.

YOU WERE THE LIAISON BEFORE THAT.

BUT, GINA, DO YOU REMEMBER? I DON'T EVER REMEMBER IT BEING A PROBLEM WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT.

WE DIDN'T. OUR PROJECT DIDN'T OUTNUMBER OUR FUNDING EVER, THAT I CAN RECALL.

NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE NOW.

I THINK THE STARTING AMOUNT IS GREAT.

I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ANY HIGHER THAN THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR PROJECTS WILL EVER OUTNUMBER OUR FUNDING, BUT I WOULD CONCUR WITH MS. NASH THAT WAS YEAH, WE NEVER HAD THAT ISSUE PREVIOUSLY.

MAYOR, CAN I MAKE ONE MORE CLARIFICATION?

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SURE. SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN MILLSAP MENTIONED ABOUT THE TOURS AND MAKING SURE THAT ANY OF THESE WERE WITHIN THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN AND THAT THEY MET THOSE GUIDELINES.

THIS WOULD BE AT WHATEVER IS ALLOWED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FUNDS TO BE EXPENDED FOR.

SO TOURS EXPENDITURES WOULD BE DIFFERENT IN THOSE THINGS.

ANYTHING SPENT EXPENDED WITH TOURS FUNDS HAVE TO BE AS PART OF THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN.

THESE WOULD BE STILL THINGS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE.

JARED IF YOU COULD BRING UP THAT LIST OF ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.

THESE ARE THINGS, AS HE PUTS HERE, ARE INFRASTRUCTURE ALLOWED BY SECTION 501.103 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO EXPEND OUT OF HERE. THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED IN VERSE THREE CURRENTLY ARE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

ALSO ALLOWED TO BE EXPENDED THROUGH THE TIRZ, BUT THESE FUNDS EARMARKED DIFFERENTLY AND THESE STILL MEET THE LAW AS REFERENCED BY SECTION 501.103. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE CLARIFICATION OF THE DIFFERENCE.

OKAY, MS. BUHLER. THE EDC BOARD AND COUNCIL FOR THAT MATTER, I THINK WERE FOR MAKING POLICY.

SO, THE EDC BOARD IS PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROCESS BY MAKING THIS POLICY OUTLINE FOR STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ADVERTISING.

I'M SURE YOU'LL PUT STUFF OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT I KNOW DENISE IS MAKING VISITS TO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AROUND THE CITY.

WE ALL BE ABLE TO EVEN GO OUT TO THESE PLACES THAT MIGHT NEED THE MOST WORK AND MIGHT NEED SOME HELP AND TELL THEM ABOUT THE POLICY WE HAVE.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE ENVISIONED FOR LETTING PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS? YES, MA'AM. SO GREAT, GREAT QUESTION.

AND I THINK ONCE WE RECEIVED THE DIRECTION AND GOT EVERYTHING APPROVED, CERTAINLY THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE PUBLIC HEARING TO AUTHORIZE THE EXPENDITURE AND THEN CERTAINLY CREATING THE MARKETING MATERIALS AND COLLATERAL GOING OUT ON THOSE BUSINESS VISITS.

AND I THINK SPECIFICALLY IN THE MEANTIME, PRIORITIZING THE BUSINESS VISITS ALONG 78, EVEN REVISITING SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE YOU'VE SEEN, WE'VE GONE TO SOME ALONG HIGHWAY 78 JUST BEING LIKE, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN OPTION FOR YOU.

AND FROM A VISIT, BUSINESS VISIT STANDPOINT, WHENEVER THE CITY COMES KNOCKING ON THE DOOR, SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT SKEPTICAL OF WHAT WHAT DO YOU NEED? BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING THEM THERE'S THIS PROGRAM THAT EXISTS AND I'D LOVE TO HELP KIND OF HOLD YOUR HAND THROUGH IT, THAT MIGHT GIVE US EVEN MORE OF A, I GUESS, OPEN DOOR TO THOSE VISITS. SO THANK YOU, JARED.

YES, MA'AM. MR. MILLSAP, I MEANT TO CATCH YOU RIGHT BEFORE THAT, BUT I THINK YOU HAD A QUESTION FOR.

YES. YES, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THIS GRANT IS PROPOSED.

I DON'T SEE IT. I DON'T THINK IT DOES.

BUT DOES IT CAN IT GO ALONG WITH ANY OTHER INCENTIVES THAT EDC MAY HAVE AVAILABLE FOR BUSINESSES? PIGGYBACK ON TOUR. IT'S GOING TO BE IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THIS GRANT, YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY OF THE OTHER AT THE AT THE SAME IN THE SAME PROJECT.

YEAH, I THINK WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCRETION THERE.

SO, IF WE'RE CONTEMPLATING SOMETHING THAT HAS JUST, FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE RECEIVED AN INCENTIVE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT FACTORS INTO WHETHER OR NOT WE PRIORITIZE THAT HIGHER, RIGHT? AND SO, I THINK TO THE POINT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARTH MADE, WANTING TO KIND OF SPREAD IT AROUND AND BE MINDFUL OF THAT, CERTAINLY THE KEY EXCLUSION AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING WOULD BE THE ONE YEAR WAITING PERIOD ESSENTIALLY IF AN OWNER GOT FUNDING.

SO BUT YOU COULD CERTAINLY COME TO US AND REQUEST AND WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU ON NAVIGATING THAT.

OKAY. YOU HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. POTTS? YEAH.

I JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS OUT.

MR. KEMPER. MY NAME IS BUTCH KEMPER, 7107 LONGMEADOW DRIVE HERE IN SACHSE.

ONE THING THAT I DIDN'T SEE, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT, IS THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLEAR STATEMENT OF WHAT THE BENEFIT THE CITY OF SACHSE IS GOING TO RECEIVE BY DOING THIS PROGRAM.

I LOOKED ON THE LIST AND UNDER PROGRAM DETAILS.

IT SAYS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO ENHANCE HIGHWAY 78 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.

THAT'S BURIED DOWN IN THE IN THE THING I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION.

THIS IS WHAT THE CITY OF SACHSE IS GOING TO GET FOR SPENDING THAT MONEY.

SECOND THING, AND I THINK I SEE THIS IN HERE.

THE GRANT REQUESTER MUST BE PREPARED TO SPEND THE WHOLE $25,000 BEFORE HE GETS HIS MATCHING MONEY FROM THE CITY. AND BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT THE THE.

THERE IS A STATEMENT THAT REIMBURSED ONCE WORK HAS BEEN VERIFIED BY CITY STAFF.

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SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.

WHEN WE START HANDING OUT CITY DOLLARS, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME AND SAY, I WANT SOME OF THAT.

AND. STAFF MEMBER SAYS THEY'VE GOT DISCRETION ABOUT WHAT THEY DO.

DISCRETION IS YOUR DOWNFALL.

THAT'S WHAT GETS GETS THE SHARKS AROUND YOU AND BITING ON YOU WHEN YOU START HAVING DISCRETION.

YOU NEED TO HAVE A SET OF RULES THAT SAY THIS IS THE WAY IT IS.

SO I WOULD I WOULD COUNSEL AGAINST HAVING DISCRETION ON BEHALF OF THE STAFF.

IT JUST LEADS TO TO TURMOIL.

BUT I'M. I'M VERY CONCERNED.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE JOB MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE HE GETS REIMBURSED.

THAT MAY LIMIT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE FROM DOING THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF A LETTER FROM THE CITY SAYING, YOUR PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED, WE WILL PAY YOU $12,500 WHEN YOU GET IT COMPLETE.

IF HE CAN TAKE IT DOWN TO THE BANK AND GET A LOAN AGAINST THAT, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T COME BACK TO THE CITY, THAT PERSON'S GETTING THE LOAN.

THE CITY. SO HE'S NOT GUARANTEEING HIS LOAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. KIMBER. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? YES, SIR.

MATTHEW HOBUCK 5511 OAK RIDGE CIRCLE.

TOP OF THE HILL. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.

IF THE KROGER SHOPPING CENTER OR ALBERTSONS OR ANYTHING HYPOTHETICAL, IF IT'S ALL OWNED BY ONE PERSON.

AND THE PIZZA PLACE WANTS MONEY.

AND THE HAIRCUTTER WANTS MONEY.

RIGHT NOW.

Y'ALL WILL DECIDE.

BUT ONLY ONE SHOP GETS THE MONEY.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? YEAH. SO IT'S ONE PER SHOPPING CENTER.

IF THAT SHOPPING CENTER IS OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON.

SO IT'S NOT ANY SMALL BUSINESS OUT THERE.

IT'S ONE PER OWNER OF THE SHOPPING CENTER, IF THAT'S.

I WAS GETTING CONFUSED IN THE BACK AND THAT'S ALL I GOT.

YEAH, I THINK MR..

YOU'RE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. CORRECT? THAT'S THAT'S IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

SO I CAN SAY THAT I CAN ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE COMMENTS IF YOU'D LIKE.

BUT RELATIVE TO THE IT'D BE ONE OWNER.

AND SO IN A LOT OF TIMES IN LEASE AGREEMENTS, PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE LIKE A PACKAGE.

IN MANY CASES THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN IMPROVEMENTS OVER AND ABOVE WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED.

AND SO THE MONEY WOULD BE TO WHAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IS THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A PROVIDED LEASE AGREEMENT SIGNED OFF ON A FORM THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE BY THE OWNER SAYING THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH THIS AND THEN WE WOULD BE PROVIDING THAT MONEY PENDING THE RECEIPTS TO THE TO THE POINT MADE BY MR. KEMPER. IF WE AUTHORIZED $25,000 AS PART OF THIS, IF WE SAID, OKAY, YOU'VE MET ALL THESE CRITERIA, YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR $25,000 FOR A GREASE TRAP VENT HOOD, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, BUT YOU ONLY SPEND 16.

THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT THOSE RECEIPTS.

AND BECAUSE AGAIN, IN-KIND CONTRIBUTIONS LIKE, OH, MY BUDDY HELPED INSTALL THIS AND HIS TIME IS WORTH THIS WOULDN'T COUNT TOWARDS THAT.

SO ALTHOUGH WE WOULD BE APPROVING AN AMOUNT AND IT WOULD BE DONE THROUGH DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, SO WE'D WORK WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM, PROVIDE THAT AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE POINT MADE ABOUT A BANK OR A FUNDING SOURCE, THEN THEY COULD HAVE THAT AS SOME KIND OF A PROOF OF CITY COMMITMENT ONCE IT HAD BEEN AUTHORIZED MEETING THE CRITERIA.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. OKAY.

SO, MS. HOWARTH, I JUST WANT TO SAY IT IS ONE PER SHOPPING CENTER AND THAT WAS A LONG DISCUSSION WITH THE EDC BOARD.

STARTING OUT, DO YOU WANT THE FOUR LITTLE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE ALL TOGETHER IN ONE LITTLE SHOPPING CENTER TO ALL FIND OUT ABOUT THIS AND THEN ALL THE MONEY GOES TO THIS ONE CHUNK? OR DO YOU WANT TO SHARE THE LOVE AND SPREAD IT OUT FOR WHEN YOU'RE STARTING? AND IT WAS A BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO BOTH OF THOSE.

AND I THINK THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WITH THE EDC WAS LIKE, THIS IS NEW, LET'S SHARE IT AND THEN ADJUST IN THE FUTURE AS NEEDS ARISE. THE THEME YOU HAD EARLIER; I THINK.

OKAY. MR. MILLSAP.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION TO JARED.

YOU ALLUDED TO IN-KIND.

IS THIS PROPOSAL, IS IT GOING TO BE DOLLARS FOR DOLLARS OR IS IT GOING TO BE CITY DOLLARS TO IN-KIND CONTRIBUTION FOR THE OWNER OR BUSINESS? THE RECEIPT WOULD HAVE TO.

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PROVE WHAT WAS SPENT ON THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENT.

NOT INCLUDING FEES.

NOT INCLUDING IN-KIND.

SO THE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENT ITSELF.

SO IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD DO IN-KIND INSTEAD OF CASH.

OKAY. IT'S GOING TO BE DOLLARS FOR DOLLARS.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR. OKAY.

WELL. YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

QUALIFYING. YEAH. OKAY.

NO, I'M GOOD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE WAY I SEE IT IS WE DO NEED TO GIVE THE EDC A DIRECTION.

DID YOU? OKAY.

OKAY. THEY MUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

OKAY, SO WE DO NEED TO GIVE EDC DIRECTION ON THIS.

SO THE WAY I'VE HEARD THE DISCUSSION KNOW AS A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL IS THAT NUMBER ONE, I THINK THE BOUNDARIES ARE GOOD LIKE THEY ARE.

SOUNDS LIKE NUMBER TWO.

I DID. MR. MILLSAP DID BRING UP THE FACT THAT SHOULD THIS BE A STAFF DISCRETION OR BOARD, I DIDN'T GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON IT SHOULDN'T BE.

JARED SO I GET THE SENSE THAT'S GOING FORWARD.

AND THEN LASTLY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, DO WE WANT TO ARE WE OKAY WITH THE 2575? SO AGAIN, IT HAS SOME COMMENTS ABOUT DIFFERENCES MAYBE.

BUT AGAIN, I HEARD A CONSENSUS OF.

KEEP THE BOUNDARIES WHERE THEY ARE.

2575 AND STAFF HAS A DISCRETION.

SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.

MS. NASH, DOES THAT GIVE YOU THE DIRECTION YOU NEED? YES, MAYOR. SO, WHAT JARED WILL BE ABLE TO DO FROM HERE IS HE'LL GO BACK TO THE EDC BOARD AT THEIR AUGUST 17TH MEETING, GIVE THAT FEEDBACK, AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH A PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD THAT CAN BE PART OF THE BUDGET.

OKAY. SO, WE WILL SEE IT AGAIN.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS NASH.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM E THREE.

[3. Consider an Ordinance of the City of Sachse, TX, amending the Code of Ordinances by amending Chapter 9 "Traffic Regulations" by amending Section 9-4 titled "Speed Limits by amending Subsection B titled "Special Speed Zones" to amend the Maximum Prima Facie Speed Limits on (1) titled Sachse Road; deleting (10) titled Maxwell Creek Road in its entirety; renumbering remaining paragraphs; providing a repealing clause; providing a savings clause; providing a severability clause; providing for a penalty of fine not to exceed the sum of Two Hundred Dollars ($200) for each offense; and providing for an effective date.]

CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SAXY, TEXAS, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY AMENDING CHAPTER NINE TRAFFIC REGULATIONS BY AMENDING SECTION NINE, DASH FOUR, TITLED SPEED LIMITS BY AMENDING SUBSECTION B TITLED SPECIAL SPEED ZONES TO AMEND THE MAXIMUM PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMITS ON SUBSECTION ONE TITLES TITLED SEXY ROAD DELETING TEN TITLED JOE, DID YOU WRITE THIS? OKAY MACKEREL CREEK ROAD IN ITS ENTIRETY RENUMBERING RENAMING RENAMING PARAGRAPHS PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING A PENALTY OF FINE NOT TO EXCEED THE SUM OF $200 FOR EACH OFFENSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AND AS I ALWAYS SAY, ONLY AN ATTORNEY COULD WRITE A CAPTION LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. I THINK MISS NASH MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS SPEED STUDY ON SAXY ROAD HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

I KNOW OF 1 OR 2 OF YOU IN PARTICULAR ASKS ME ABOUT IT REGULARLY.

WE HAD TO WAIT, AS THOSE OF YOU WILL RECALL WHEN I KEPT GIVING MY ANSWER THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT YET WAS BECAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE TIME FOR THE FACILITY TO BE OPEN, TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR THE TRAFFIC FULLY WITH REGULAR TRAFFIC, TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT THE STUDY THAT IS ATTACHED TO THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

AND SO COREY NESBITT WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE RESULTS OF THE PRESENTATION.

WE ALSO HAVE THE PROJECT ENGINEER HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STUDY, HE CAN ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU AS WELL.

HELLO, MR. NESBITT. MAYOR, COUNCIL AGAIN, IT'S MISS NASH ALLUDED TO.

THIS IS JUST A QUICK STUDY.

THERE'S A LOT MORE TECHNICAL INFORMATION IN THE DETAILED REPORT, SO I'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU THE HIGH POINTS HERE.

BUT CERTAINLY IF THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS, WE CAN DIVE INTO THAT.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND REAL QUICK OF THE STUDY LIMITS OF THE STUDY.

WE'LL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE SPEED DATA AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGES.

AND BUSINESS.

EXCUSE ME. I'M LOSING MY VOICE.

AS MS. NASH ALLUDED TO, WE HAD TO WAIT TILL THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETED BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THE STUDY.

INITIALLY, WE WERE JUST GOING TO DO THE NEW PORTION OF SAXON ROAD, BUT WE EXPANDED THE STUDY TO DO BASICALLY CITY LIMITS TO CITY LIMITS.

SO, I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE HERE IN THE NEXT SCREEN.

AND AGAIN, THESE FILMS ARE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE BIG, LONG LEGAL PARAGRAPH, BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE GET TICKETS FOR THESE THINGS.

RIGHT. AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING CORRECT.

AND AGAIN, SO HERE'S THE HERE'S THE QUICK LIMITS PICTURE OF THE LIMITS.

AND IF YOU CAN READ THIS MAP, THERE'S SECTIONS LABELED ONE, TWO, THREE, ETCETERA.

THESE THE PIN CUSHIONS ARE THE ACTUAL LOCATIONS WHERE WE TOOK THE SPEED DATA, INFORMATION WHERE THE TRAFFIC COUNTS WERE TAKEN, AND THE DATA OBTAINED.

AND THE NEXT PICTURE, YOU'LL SHOW THE ACTUAL SEGMENTS OF THE ROAD.

SO, WE KIND OF BROKE IT DOWN INTO MEANINGFUL SECTIONS.

I THINK I BELIEVE THE FIRST SECTION IS FROM THE CITY LIMITS TO MERRITT ROAD, WOOD RIDGE PARKWAY.

THE NEXT SECTION WOULD BE FROM MERRITT TO MILES.

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MILES TO THE ROUNDABOUT.

ROUNDABOUT TO 78, 78 TO DEWITT STREET.

THERE'S A DISTINCTION THERE.

AND THEN FROM DEWITT STREET NORTH ON DEWITT ROAD, ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY LIMITS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

SO THE THE ROAD CHANGES SEVERAL TIMES IN NAMES.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED, BUT THE ORDINANCE COLLECTS ALL THAT.

UM. THIS MAY BE WHERE I TURN IT OVER TO JOHN TO GIVE YOU SOME OF THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE ON THIS.

BUT SO AGAIN, THIS WAS THE DATA THEY COLLECTED, AND YOU SEE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

THE 50TH SPEED 50TH PERCENTILE IS NOT PERCENTAGE, IT'S PERCENTILE.

JOHN CAN MORE ELOQUENTLY EXPLAIN THAT THAN I CAN.

BUT AND THE 85TH PERCENTILE AND THEN THE TEN MILE PACE UPPER BOUND, WHICH IS I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT ONE IS.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE BASING THE SPEED LIMITS ON THE 85TH PERCENTILE AND JOHN CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT CALCULATION.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL THAT THERE.

MOST OF THAT'S IN THE TECHNICAL REPORT, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN EXPAND ON THAT AS AS NEEDED.

SO ALL THAT INFORMATION IN THE REPORT, WE'RE SUMMARIZING IT INTO THIS TABLE.

SO THE EXISTING SPEED LIMIT ON THE ROAD FROM THE CITY LIMIT TO MILES ROAD IS 45.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING LOWERING THAT BECAUSE OF.

THE CRASH DATA IN THAT AREA.

AND THIS WILL PARTIALLY BE RESOLVED WHEN THE MERRITT ROAD INTERSECTION GETS REALIGNED.

THAT OFFSET INTERSECTION HAS QUITE A FEW INCIDENTS AND THAT THAT THAT LOWERS THE SPEED LIMIT BECAUSE OF THE CRASH DATA.

AGAIN, SEXY ROAD FOUR MILES TO THE MERRITT ROUNDABOUT THAT HAS BEEN POSTED AT 35.

WE'VE STUDIED IT.

IT'S THERE'S NO TRAFFIC CONDITIONS THAT WOULD RESTRICT US FROM RAISING THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING A 40 FOR THAT ONE AS WELL.

FIFTH STREET FROM THE ROUNDABOUT TO 78.

SO THAT IS CURRENTLY 35.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING LOWERING THAT TO 30 BECAUSE OF THE FUTURE USES THAT ARE COMING.

WE'RE PROPOSING THE RESTAURANTS AND THE WALKABILITY IN THAT AREA.

SO WE WANT TO HAVE THAT SPEED LIMIT LOWERED IN THAT SECTION.

AND AGAIN, FROM 78 NORTH TO DEWITT ROAD, WE'RE RECOMMENDING 40.

AND THEN FROM THE CITY LIMITS TO MERCURY ROAD IS STILL POSTED AS 40.

NOW WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THAT.

SO. THAT'S MY QUICK OVERVIEW.

CERTAINLY JOHN'S HERE TO ANSWER A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS.

WELL, WE'LL SEE IF THERE ARE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.

MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

YEAH. I'VE BEEN GRIPING ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT ON SEXY ROAD SINCE 1990.

SOMETHING. I ALWAYS FELT IT WAS A SPEED TRAP WHEN I WENT TO ONE OF MY FRIEND'S HOUSE.

AND ACTUALLY BECAUSE EVERY HALF A MILE THE SPEED LIMIT CHANGES SEEMED LIKE AND IT HASN'T REALLY CHANGED SINCE THEN IN MY OPINION.

YOU HAVE THE STRETCH RIGHT OUT HERE.

AS SOON AS YOU CROSS MILES, IT GOES FIVE MILES AN HOUR FASTER.

AS SOON AS YOU CROSS THE BRIDGE, IT'S FIVE MILES AN HOUR FASTER.

IT'S JUST NO CONSISTENCY AT ALL.

SO, YES, I'M ONE OF THE ONES THAT ASKS GINA ALL THE TIME ABOUT THIS ONE, IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW.

BUT I'M SURE YOU DO.

I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT.

THE ONE AREA OF 30 PERTURBS ME.

I UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE USES, BUT.

I'M SURE I CAN GET GOING.

40 OR 50 MILES AN HOUR THERE.

BUT IT'S A STRETCH.

AND WITH A WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, THE RAILROAD COMING ACROSS THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

MAYBE 35 WOULD BE BETTER.

I DON'T KNOW. JUST ME.

BUT I NEED SOME CONSISTENCY.

I'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT CONSISTENCY ALONG THIS STRETCH FOREVER, SO THIS MAKES ME HAPPY.

IT'S MORE CONSISTENT.

AND ONE THING TO POINT OUT, WHEN WE GET THE MERRITT ROAD PROJECT COMPLETED, WE CAN REEVALUATE THAT AGAIN TO SEE BECAUSE THAT MAY END UP GOING TO 45 BASED ON THE NEW CONFIGURATION. SO AGAIN, AS THINGS GET COMPLETED AND UPDATED, WE'LL LOOK AT REVISING, REVISING OR REVISITING THIS AS NEEDED TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S CORRECT.

SO NO, I LIKE THE WHOLE THING.

40 JUST FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FIFTH STREET AREA AND SOME OF THE DESIGN AND PLANS FOR THAT AREA, BUT JUST MORE CONSISTENT.

I DON'T SEE OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. NESBITT. THANK YOU.

OH, YEAH. I GOT TO SPEED IT UP, MAN.

COME ON, MR. PRESTENBERG.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE 85TH PERCENTILE IS? SO, THE 85TH PERCENTILE IS IT'S A SPEED VALUE OF A VEHICLE OF WHICH 85% OF ALL THE VEHICLES ARE GOING THAT SPEED OR LOWER.

OKAY. AND SO IF WE HAD 100 VEHICLES AND THEY'RE RANGING ANYWHERE FROM 20 MILES AN HOUR TO 50, THE 85TH HIGHEST VEHICLE, IF HE'S DOING 45, THEN WE WOULD SAY THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED WAS 45 BECAUSE 85 OF THOSE VEHICLES ARE GOING 45 OR LOWER.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF IF 53 IS THE 85TH PERCENTILE, IT MEANS 15% ARE GOING FASTER THAN 53.

CORRECT. OKAY.

SO NOW WE JUST GAVE THE CHIEF A PRETTY GOOD READOUT OF WHERE TO GO PATROL.

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YEAH, I'M WITH MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS ABOUT LEVEL SETTING SOME OF THIS.

I DO. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN IF WE DO VOTE ON THIS TODAY? NOT CHANGING THE FIFTH STREET UNTIL MORE UNTIL IT WAS READY TO BE CHANGED? OR DOES IT DOES IT HAVE TO BE CHANGED ALL? SO I GUESS TWO POINTS WITH WITH RESPECT TO THE STRETCH OF FIFTH BETWEEN THE ROUNDABOUT AND 78, BASED ON THE POST CONSTRUCTION CONDITION, THE CRASH RATE IN THAT AREA IS ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE A CONDITION LIKE THAT, YOU LOOK AT POSTING YOUR SPEED LIMIT 7 TO 12 MILES AN HOUR BELOW THE 85TH DUE TO THE CRASH EXPERIENCE OF THAT CORRIDOR.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S ON STREET PARKING THAT IS BEING UTILIZED TODAY.

AND YOU YOU DON'T WANT TOO MUCH SPEED DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN ACTUAL PARKING MANEUVERS AND EXISTING TRAFFIC VOLUMES.

AND SO IT'S WHILE WHILE THE NEED FOR THE 30 KIND OF EXACERBATES OVER TIME AS THAT AREA IS GOING TO DEVELOP, THEN THE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 30 IS BASED ON THE DATA AS IT IS TODAY.

OKAY. AND I CAN TALK.

I DO. ONE OF THE FEW TIMES I DON'T HAVE AN OVERRIDE BUTTON, I CAN TURN YOU OFF.

COUNCIL. JUST KEEP IN MIND, ON THE 85TH PERCENTILE, THAT IS THE STANDARD THAT THE CITY FOLLOWS.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DEVIATE FROM THAT.

AND THERE'S THERE'S GUIDELINES SPECIFICALLY WHICH ALLOWS THE CITY TO DEVIATE FROM THAT.

BUT SINCE THE STUDY'S BEEN DONE, IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT IT NEEDS TO GO FROM 35 TO 30.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU FOLLOW THAT STUDY AND NOT DEVIATE FROM THAT STUDY BY KEEPING IT AT 35 OR HIGHER, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE NOW PUT ON KNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THE SITUATION ON THAT ROADWAY, WHICH REQUIRES IT TO BE LOWERED TO THE 30 AT BUILD OUT.

THAT COULD BE 20 YEARS.

NO, HE SAID AS OF THE CONDITIONS AS OF TODAY.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE CRASHED OUT THERE IS HIGHER.

YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. LINDSEY. YEAH.

I HAD A QUESTION THAT MR. PRESTENBERG ASKED ALREADY ON THERE, SO I WAS INTERESTED IN THE COLUMN TYPES, BUT I THINK WE'VE COVERED THAT.

SO NOW I'M JUST LEFT WITH A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THERE.

MY FRUSTRATION HASN'T BEEN WITH INCONSISTENT SPEED LIMITS.

IT'S BEEN WITH PRIOR COUNCILS NOT LISTENING TO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND SETTING DIFFERENT SPEED LIMITS.

SO I THINK EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT BACK TO US THIS EVENING MAKES SENSE.

IT IT'S REFLECTIVE OF WHAT I SEE ON A DAILY BASIS.

I KNOW THAT WE LOOK AT SACHSE AND MERRITT ROAD AS AND SAXY AND WOODBRIDGE AS HIGH POINT OF COLLISIONS, BUT ALSO BAILEY ROAD.

I THINK I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN MORE ACCIDENTS AT BAILEY ROAD PERSONALLY THAN AT THOSE OTHER TWO SECTIONS.

SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE DATA COME BACK AND SUGGEST 40MPH.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE TOWN DISTRICT, IT'S IT'S OLD TOWN, YOU TRY TO YOU SEE SEVERAL CARS MAKING THE SHOT ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE STREET, 30MPH, I THINK IS A SAFE SPEED LIMIT THERE.

AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT'S BEEN FOUND THERE JUST TO FACILITATE TRAFFIC AND THEN OUR HOPES FOR MORE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH IN THAT AREA.

SO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING DEWITT AND GOING AHEAD AND LOOKING AT THAT WHOLE STRETCH.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY NEXT QUESTION IF THIS WASN'T ALREADY DONE AS PART OF THIS.

SO, THIS IS ALL PACKAGED UP IN A NICE BIG BOW AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND SO JUST WELL DONE AND BRINGING THIS TO US, MS. BUHLER. MY QUESTION.

OKAY, MR. MILLSAP. AS A RESIDENT OF LIVING ON MILES ROAD, IT HAS A 45 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON IT.

AND WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO SACHSE ROAD, YOU REALLY ARE GOING TO BE GOING DOWN TO A 40 MILE AN HOUR.

I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE SOME CONSISTENCY THERE BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT SEXY ROAD FROM MILES TO THE ROUNDABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S ONLY FOUR HOUSES THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR DRIVEWAY.

THERE'S ONLY ONE ALLEY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT MILES ROAD, YOU HAVE ABOUT SEVEN HOUSES AND THREE ALLEYS, THREE BUSINESSES AND THREE SCHOOL ZONES AND A 45 MILE AN HOUR ZONE.

I KNOW THIS THIS STUDY IS ONLY DEALING WITH SEXY ROAD, BUT I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHERS.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH FROM THE ROUNDABOUT GOING EAST ONCE THE REST OF THE SACHSE ROAD IS FOUR LANES KICKING THAT UP TO 45 AS SO HE'D BE CONSISTENT. SO, WHEN YOU COME INTO TOWN OFF OF BUSH.

UH, YOU'RE IN A 45-MILE ZONE.

DID YOU GET TO SACHSE AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO WIND UP BEING IN A 40.

SO, IT'S EITHER LOWER MILES ROAD DOWN TO 40 OR LOOK AT MOVING SEXY ROAD UP TO 45 IN THAT AREA.

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SO, YOU DON'T HAVE THIS ABRUPT CHANGE AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO FORGET WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT SIGN IS.

YEAH, CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT DOING ANOTHER STUDY FOR MILES ROAD.

BUT AGAIN, AS JOE MENTIONED, WE DON'T WANT TO DEVIATE FROM WHAT'S RECOMMENDED JUST BECAUSE OF LEGAL ISSUES WITH THAT.

BUT CERTAINLY, WE CAN LOOK AT DOING MILES ROAD AT SOME POINT.

MR. PRESTENBERG? NO, NOTHING. ARE YOU GOOD? MS. HOWARTH? ENGINEERS AND DATA AND NUMBERS.

AND IF THIS IS WHAT THE NUMBERS SAY THEY SHOULD BE, THEN I AM WILLING TO TAKE THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM PROFESSIONALS.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, TO PIGGYBACK OFF MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT IS THE CONSISTENCY.

NOW, GRANTED, YOU'VE HEARD SOME DEBATE ON WHAT THAT SHOULD BE, BUT I THINK, AS MR. GORFIDA RIGHTLY POINTED OUT, THAT THE WAY THEY DO SPEED STUDIES AND HOW IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE LAW, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ADHERE TO, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, AND I LIKE THE CONSISTENCY OF IT.

AND IF WE NEED TO STUDY OTHER ROADS IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

SO THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? MR. PRESTENBERG, LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE $200 FINE, IS THAT ANY SORT OF CHANGE OR IS IT WAS IT WE JUST PUT IT IN THERE JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW OR.

NOT TO EXCEED. PERMISSION.

WELL, HOLD ON. GRANTED, THE $200 IS THE MAXIMUM.

THAT'S A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR TRAFFIC OFFENSE.

UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, IT'S THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT.

SO, THE COURT AND THE JUDGE SETS WHAT THAT FINE WOULD BE.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SET AT 200, ANYWHERE FROM $1 UP TO AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAXIMUM GO UP, I GUESS.

WAS IT 100 OR 150? SO IT STAY THE SAME. WE JUST WE'RE JUST STATING WHAT IT WAS.

$200. THANK YOU, MAX.

WE CAN'T MAKE IT MORE. WHAT ABOUT ANOTHER $110 OF COURT COSTS? THEY GOT ONTO THAT TO THE STATE.

MS. HOWARTH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? APPARENTLY NOT. OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM E THREE AS PRESENTED.

MOTION BY MS. HOWARTH TO APPROVE ITEM E THREE AS PRESENTED.

MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS SECOND.

A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YOU CAN PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

GOOD LUCK. I'LL JUST WALK ON UP BY MYSELF.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. NOT QUITE.

I WON'T. HE SAID GO.

I APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM E.4.

[4. Receive a presentation regarding Utility Fund recommendations.]

RECEIVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING UTILITY FUND RECOMMENDATIONS.

MS. NASH. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I ACTUALLY ALLUDED TO THIS AGENDA ITEM AT YOUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BUDGET.

THERE WAS A REVIEW OF OUR UTILITY FUND RECOMMENDATIONS BY NUGEN STRATEGIES.

AND BECKY IS ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT ANXIOUS TO TALK ABOUT HER AGENDA ITEM.

AND DAVID WILL ACTUALLY DO AN INTRODUCTION TO HER PRESENTATION AND THEN SHE WILL DISCUSS HER FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

MR. BALDWIN, YOU'RE VERY QUICK.

SHE'S READY TO GO. I BETTER SO WITH A CHANGEOVER IN MAYOR AND COUNCIL WITH A CHANGEOVER IN FINANCE STAFF OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF AND WITH OUR 2019 FIVE-YEAR WATER AND WASTEWATER RATE STUDY COMING TO AN END, WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO ASK NUGEN STRATEGIES AND SOLUTIONS TO REVIEW OUR UTILITY FUND POLICIES, OUR PRACTICES, OUR FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND SO WITH ME TODAY IS REBECCA SCHAEFER OF NEW GEN STRATEGIES AND SOLUTIONS, AND SHE'S HERE TO PRESENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

COME ON UP, MISS SCHAEFER.

NOW YOU CAN COME UP. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. I NEVER COULD STAND A QUIET ROOM.

SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I APPRECIATE COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND JUST A LITTLE BIT THERE.

THERE YOU GO. OKAY.

I'M ALSO TO GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE THE SLIDE.

SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS STUDY, THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS TO REVIEW YOUR EXISTING POLICIES AND FUND FLOW AND FUNDS AS THEY ARE SET UP CURRENTLY AND THEN SAT DOWN WITH YOUR STAFF WHO WERE WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH AS ALWAYS, BY THE WAY, AND GOT A LOT OF INPUT AND HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON WHAT IS WORKING WELL EFFICIENTLY FOR THEM TO MANAGE THE ENTERPRISE FUND AND SHARED EXPERIENCES.

ALSO FROM WHAT OTHER CITIES DO, OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY'VE WORKED, OTHER CITIES THAT I'VE WORKED WITH LOOKING AT THE FRUSTRATION POINTS IN, IN

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WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WHEN THEY'RE MANAGING THE ENTERPRISE FROM FROM AN OPERATING AND CAPITAL PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, AND ALSO LOOKED AT THE OVERALL BEST PRACTICES AND RECOMMENDATIONS ACCORDING TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND GFOA AND OTHER ENTITIES.

THE OUTCOME OF ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS PREDOMINANTLY FOCUSED ON THE CAPITAL PLANNING PORTION OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND BY AND LARGE, WHICH IS NOT JUST THE PLANNING OF THE PROJECTS, BUT ALSO THE FUNDING OF THE PROJECTS.

AND SO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO ESTABLISH A SEPARATE UTILITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUND WITHIN THE ENTERPRISE FUND OR WITHIN THE UTILITY FUND.

CURRENTLY, CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND CAPITAL FUND, WHICH SORT OF DISASSOCIATES THEM FROM THE PLANNING PROCESS AND THE FUNDING SOURCES WITHIN THE UTILITY FUND.

AND BRINGING THESE ALL TOGETHER UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE UTILITY FUND WILL FACILITATE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PLANNING CAPACITY OF STAFF TO ADDRESS MULTIYEAR STRATEGIC FINANCIAL PLANNING.

IT WILL ALSO ENABLE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO BE AGGREGATED SO THAT IT'S MORE CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO APPLY TO PROJECTS OVER THAT 5 TO 10 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON.

SO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES, PROCEEDS FROM DEBT ISSUANCES, CAPITAL FUNDING FROM REVENUES CAN BE HELD AS APPROVED AND TRANSFERRED INTO THAT CAPITAL FUND.

AND THEN WHEN THE LONG TERM 5 TO 10 YEAR PLAN IS IS LAID OUT, IDEALLY WHAT YOU LIKE TO SEE IS AN EXPECTATION OF HOW EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE FUNDED OVER TIME.

THAT ALSO HELPS WHEN YOU'RE DEVELOPING A LONG TERM RATE PLAN.

YOU CAN LOOK DOWN THE HORIZON AND SEE, OKAY, THIS IS WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO CONCEIVABLY ISSUE NEW DEBT OR WHEN YOU'RE RELYING ON IMPACT FEES.

AND IT ALL KIND OF COMES TOGETHER A LOT BETTER WHEN THEY'VE GOT THE CAPABILITY TO REALLY SEE AND PLAN ON A LONG TERM PERSPECTIVE WITHIN THAT FUND.

AND IT ALSO GIVES THOSE OF US THAT WORK ON DEVELOPING RATE PLANS THE ABILITY TO MORE CLOSELY TRACK THE REVENUE REQUIREMENT NEEDED OVER TIME SO THAT YOU CAN PLAN YOUR RATES TO HAVE A YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS WANT THAT STEADY INCREMENTAL ADJUSTMENT RATHER THAN SOMETHING STEEP IN TERMS OF RATE PLANNING.

SO THIS IS ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER CITIES AND ALSO WHAT IS RECOMMENDED BY INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION IS SIMILAR.

IT IS TO ESTABLISH A SEPARATE UTILITY FUND, VEHICLE EQUIPMENT AND REPLACEMENT FUND, WHICH IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS A VERF.

YOU HAVE A VERF FOR THE GENERAL FUND VEHICLES, BUT THERE ISN'T A SEPARATE VERF FOR UTILITY VEHICLES, NOR ARE THE UTILITY VEHICLES ADDRESSED WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

SO, ESTABLISHMENT OF THIS SEPARATE VCF WOULD ALLOW FOR LONG TERM PLANNING, NOT JUST FOR TRUCKS BUT ALL OF THE OTHER.

THERE'S A LOT OF HIGH DOLLAR EQUIPMENT THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE UTILITY AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED BASED ON THEIR USEFUL LIFE OVER TIME. AND THAT'S BEST DONE THE SAME WAY YOU'RE DOING IN THE GENERAL FUND BY PROJECTING OUT THE USEFUL LIFE OF THESE ASSETS, PLANNING FOR WHEN THEY'LL NEED TO BE REPLACED AND ACCRUING THOSE FUNDS OVER TIME SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE BIG SPIKES IN THE BUDGET FOR SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS FOR VEHICLE EXPENSE OR OTHER TYPES OF ASSETS.

AND THIS CAN RANGE FROM ANYTHING.

VEHICLES TO GENERATORS TO PUMPS TO WHOLESALE CHANGE OUT OF METERS DUE TO CHANGING OF TECHNOLOGY, HARDWARE, SOFTWARE, WHATEVER THOSE ASSETS ARE THAT YOU DECIDE TO PUT INTO THAT VERF, IT WILL HELP FACILITATE THE LONG-TERM CAPITAL PLANNING AND FINANCIAL PLANNING FOR THOSE.

SO, THEN THE NEXT BUILDING BLOCK ON THAT IS REALLY IT WAS UP TO DAVID AND RYAN TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE INTEGRATE THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS INTO OUR UTILITY FUND AND WITHIN OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.

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SO THEY, I KNOW, SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON EXACTLY HOW TO INCORPORATE THAT.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S JUST THIS ONE BUCKET, IF YOU WILL, OF THE UTILITY FUND, AND YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE ONE BUCKET OF UTILITY FUND, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BUILDING BLOCKS WITHIN IT SEPARATED OUT BETWEEN THE OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES AND THEN THE CAPITAL FUNDING AND THE EXPENDITURES.

BUT FROM A HIGH LEVEL PERSPECTIVE, IT REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE.

BUT FROM AN ACCOUNTING PERSPECTIVE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO TO CLEARLY TRACK AND IDENTIFY ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS.

THE THIRD RECOMMENDATION IS ON A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TOPIC.

CURRENTLY, YOUR FINANCIAL POLICIES STATE THAT THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING RESERVE TARGET IS 90 DAYS OF OPERATING EXPENSE TO BE HELD IN FUND BALANCE FOR CONTINGENCIES.

THE UTILITY FUND STATED FINANCIAL POLICY STATES 75 DAYS, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE FOR UTILITY FUNDS BECAUSE THE UTILITY FUND REVENUE STREAM IS SO MUCH MORE VOLATILE, AS YOU KNOW, WITH WITH WATER.

WEATHER CAN PLAY HAVOC WITH WATER REVENUES EITHER ON THE HIGH SIDE OR THE LOW SIDE.

AND SO WHAT WE TYPICALLY RECOMMEND IS A MINIMUM 90 DAY TARGET FOR AN OPERATING RESERVE FOR WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES.

THE INDUSTRY STANDARD ORGANIZATION, THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION AND THE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES PREFER AND RECOMMEND A HIGHER TARGET FUND BALANCE.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT 90 DAY BALANCE AS A MINIMUM TARGET GOING FORWARD.

SO REALLY, THAT'S THE THREE MAIN RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS.

THE UTILITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THE SEPARATE UTILITY AND THE OPERATING RESERVE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM NOW.

THANK YOU, MS. SCHAEFER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MS. SCHAEFER FROM COUNCIL.

I WILL TRY NOT TO BE TOO QUICK THIS TIME.

MR. LINDSEY, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR INSIGHT AROUND.

I'VE KIND OF HAD THIS QUESTION WITH OUR GENERAL FUND THOUGH, BUT IS THERE WHAT DO YOU SEE IN OTHER CITIES AND HAS THERE BEEN ANY ANALYSIS DONE ON OUR PART OF LEASING VEHICLES VERSUS PURCHASING THEM? WELL, YOU CAN STILL YOU CAN STILL LEASE VEHICLES, BUT EVEN THAT NEEDS TO BE FINANCIALLY PLANNED.

SO I WOULD STILL SAY THAT WHETHER, FOR INSTANCE, A VACTOR TRUCK IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, WHETHER YOU DECIDE TO LEASE IT OR PURCHASE IT, YOU STILL NEED TO PLAN FOR THAT EXPENSE.

SO IT COULD STILL BE PART OF THAT PLAN AND PROGRAM.

OKAY. SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE'VE GOT A TRUCK, IT'S END OF LIFE.

WE COULD GO RIGHT INTO A LEASE WITH VERY LITTLE UPFRONT.

SO IF WE INSTITUTE A ROOF, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST SOME INITIAL START UP COST.

LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE GOT A TRUCK RIGHT NOW THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SPEND 30,000 OR SO ON IT.

AND THEN MEANWHILE, WE'RE GOING TO START SAVING UP FOR THE NEXT TIME THAT TRUCK NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

SO THERE'S THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF I GUESS.

FRONT END PAIN, I GUESS GOING GOING INTO THIS TO GET THE FUNDING.

FUNDING THAT WE NEED INTO THE VERB AND THEN ALSO TAKE CARE OF OUR NEEDS AS WELL.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S FRONT END PAINT AS MUCH AS GREATER FLEXIBILITY.

YOU'RE FUNDING THOSE VEHICLES NOW, BUT NOT ACCRUING THE FUNDS IN ADVANCE.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO PAY TUITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER FOR COLLEGE.

YOU CAN SET IT ASIDE AND SAVE UP FOR IT, OR YOU CAN JUST DEAL WITH IT WHEN THE BILL COMES.

THIS IS JUST TAKING A MORE FISCALLY PROACTIVE APPROACH TO ACCRUING THE FUNDS FOR THOSE FOR THOSE RESOURCES.

I DEFINITELY LOVE THE IDEA OF SAVING UP AND THEN PURCHASING IS WHAT WE SHOULD ALL STRIVE TO DO.

SO BUT I DO HEAR COMMENTS BACK, WELL, WE COULD BE SAVING MONEY BY LEASING IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THAT SOME KIND OF OPTIMIZATION THAT WE NEED TO DO OR THAT'S.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY ON THAT, BUT I'M SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF CAN LOOK AT.

I THINK MR. NESBITT DOES.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH, STEP ON IN HERE.

SO I THINK I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY OPTIONS FOR LEASE VEHICLES LIKE THE ONE LIKE THE JET TRUCK.

THOSE DON'T JUST AREN'T AVAILABLE.

RIGHT. AND SO, LIKE PERSONAL VEHICLES, STUFF LIKE THAT, I THINK CERTAINLY WE COULD DO THAT.

BUT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE ITS UNIQUE SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT.

AND SO. WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT.

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I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S SO SPECIALIZED, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

I WILL SAY ONE THING THAT OUR THE UTILITY, WE DON'T HAVE ONE, BUT OUR PROGRAM CLOSELY MIRRORS THE EXISTING GENERAL FUND.

SO WE'RE FOLLOWING THE SAME TEN YEAR PROGRAM.

WE'RE FOLLOWING THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO WE DON'T OFFICIALLY HAVE A BUT WE'RE THE UTILITY FUND VERY CLOSELY MATCHES WHAT WE DO FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THIS IS JUST FORMALLY ESTABLISHING THAT.

SO WE HAVE THAT HAVE THAT CURRENT PROGRAM AS WELL.

SO. OKAY.

AND THEN JUST ONE MORE QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT REALLY FITS IN WITH WITH ANY OF YOUR SPECIFIC TOPICS, BUT MAYBE JUST IN GENERAL, JUST TRYING TO THINK THROUGH THIS UTILITY FUND. YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS TELLING OUR CITIZENS NONE OF OUR UTILITY FUND GOES TO FINANCE OTHER THINGS IN THE CITY.

AND SO, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M TOLD, WELL, OH, WE'RE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE UTILITY FUND AND PUT IT IN THE GENERAL FUND, AND THAT'S FOR COST SHARING, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR FINANCE DIRECTOR ON THERE.

THEIR DUTIES THAT FALL OVER AND I'M JUST, IS THAT TYPICAL PRACTICE? IS THERE ANY WAY TO ELIMINATE THAT GOVERNMENT TRANSFER OF MONEY AND JUST CREATE THE PAYCHECK DIRECTLY OUT OF THE UTILITY FUND AND OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO GET TO THE TOTAL PERSON'S PAYCHECK, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE, THAT IT IS A COMMON PRACTICE TO MAKE A TRANSFER FROM THE UTILITY FUND BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND TO COMPENSATE THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE OVERHEAD THAT'S PROVIDED.

FOR INSTANCE, THE UTILITY FUND IS ITS OWN STANDALONE BUSINESS, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A HUMAN RESOURCES FIRM.

IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IT GROUP OF ITS OWN GENERALLY.

IT DOESN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, ITS OWN FINANCE DIRECTOR AND SO FORTH.

SO, THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT TRANSFER SHOULD BE.

YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE'LL DO A COST ALLOCATION STUDY TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND THE.

THE ACTIVITIES AND THE TIME SPENT ON CERTAIN ACTIVITIES THAT BENEFIT THE UTILITY FUND IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY CALCULATE WHAT THE COST BENEFIT IS TO THE UTILITY FUND OF THE GENERAL FUND PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S ONE WAY OF DETERMINING WHAT THAT TRANSFER SHOULD BE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT IT IS VERY COMMON PRACTICE TO MAKE SOME TRANSFER BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THOSE SUPPORT SERVICES. OKAY.

I APPRECIATE THAT. EDUCATION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

YEAH, I'M A BIG FAN OF THE VCF.

I WAS A BIG FAN OF THE VERF BEFORE WE HAD A VERF.

THE BEST EXAMPLE IS I CAN TELL YOU IS WE BOUGHT A NEW FIRE TRUCK, WAS GOING TO BE $500,000.

IT ENDED UP BEING ALMOST $1 MILLION.

AND EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE $1 MILLION IN THERE FOR A FIRE TRUCK OR WHATEVER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE'RE BUYING, THAT'LL OFFSET THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO COST SHARE THOSE VEHICLES, IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT OF THE UTILITY FUND 25, 50%, WHATEVER, AND OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, I WOULD LIKE SOME KIND OF CATEGORY TO MANAGE THAT.

AND JUST TO DEFINE HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO START OBLIGATING TO THOSE VEHICLES IN THE FUTURE.

WE JUST MADE CHANGES TO THE GENERAL FUND PERCENTAGES OR DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

I WOULD JUST LIKE SOME KIND OF YOU WANT TO CALL IT POLICY LINE ITEM, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, TO START PLANNING FOR THAT, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T COVER THE WHOLE THING.

AS FAR AS LEASING OR BUYING, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

IT SHOULDN'T BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE'RE STILL GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY.

THE 90 DAYS.

I'M A BIG FAN OF THAT.

AS WE GET TO OUR BUILD OUT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ALL THOSE FEES AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF GOOD THINGS COMING IN.

STUFF'S NOT GETTING ANY CHEAPER AS WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING AS A LIFT STATION COST A HECK OF A LOT MORE THAN I WOULD THINK.

AND IT TAKES A HECK OF A LOT LONGER TO DESIGN, BUILD AND GET DONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS NEED WHETHER THAT BE PART OF THE VERF AS WELL.

I THINK THOSE WE DEFINITELY NEED SOME KIND OF POLICY AND OR LINE ITEMS TO DO THOSE.

MY ONLY ISSUE IS GOING TO BE, AS WE DO WITH THE GENERAL FUND, WHEN WE GET TO A CERTAIN POINT, WHETHER IT BE 90 DAYS THAT WE WANT IN THERE AND WE HAVE SIX MONTHS' WORTH OF MONEY IN THERE IS NOT SPENDING IT.

SO, WE EITHER NEED TO DECREASE IT AS WE GET TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT, OR WE NEED TO SPEND IT.

THAT IS ALL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR MS. SCHAEFER? THANK YOU, MS. SCHAEFER. GIVEN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE.

MS. NASH, I BELIEVE I DIDN'T HEAR ANY STRENUOUS OBJECTIONS FOR THIS PLAN GOING FORWARD.

SO DO YOU HAVE YOUR DIRECT? YES, SIR. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND INCORPORATE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. MS.

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NASH. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM E FIVE.

[5. Receive an update from HUB International, the City's benefits consultant, regarding the City's current claims status.]

RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM HUB INTERNATIONAL, THE CITY'S BENEFITS CONSULTANT, REGARDING THE CITY'S CURRENT CLAIMS STATUS, MS. NASH MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IT IS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR WILL YOU WILL GET AN UPDATE FROM HUB INTERNATIONAL ON THE STATE OF WHERE WE ARE ON OUR INSURANCE CLAIMS. WE HAVE A NEW REPRESENTATIVE HERE, MONICA BLAKELY.

IT IS NOT ANDREW WEAVER.

SHE'S MUCH PRETTIER, NOT LIKE AT ALL.

AND SO, MONICA WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE RIGHT NOW ON WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.

SO, WE'VE HAD TWO FIRST TIME PRESENTERS TONIGHT.

SOUNDS LIKE. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME.

THANK YOU. GOOD. GOOD EVENING.

SORRY, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.

DON'T BE NERVOUS. IT'S ALL GOOD.

SO I AM NEWLY ASSIGNED TO THE CITY OF SACHSE, SO BEAR WITH ME.

SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER YOUR HISTORICAL OVERVIEW.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK BACK AT WHERE YOU ENDED 2022.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT FIRST QUARTER OF 2023 AND START PLANNING FOR 2024.

SO LAST YEAR, YOUR INITIAL INCREASE WITH THE UNITED HEALTH CARE RESULTED IN A 10% ADJUSTMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN 185,000 PREMIUM INCREASE.

HUB DID MARKET THE MEDICAL PLAN.

YOU DID SELECT AETNA AND PART OF THAT RESULTED IN A 9% DECREASE TO THE MEDICAL PLAN, WHICH IS AN ESTIMATE OF 165,000 ANNUALIZED PREMIUM SAVINGS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, AETNA ALSO PROVIDED 150,001 TIME PREMIUM CREDIT, 2% DISCOUNT OFF THE MEDICAL RATES TO ADD THE DENTAL. THEY ADDED 20% OR I'M SORRY, 20,000 IN A WELLNESS ALLOWANCE, AND THEY INCLUDED A 13% RENEWAL RATE CAP FOR YEAR TWO, WHICH MEANS IF YOUR PLAN KNOW RUNS REALLY HIGH, THE MOST YOUR RENEWAL WOULD BE WOULD BE THAT 13% FOR 2024. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE IMPLEMENTED TWO NARROW NETWORK OPTIONS FOR COST CONTAINMENT AND ALSO ADJUSTED THE COINSURANCE LEVEL FROM 70% TO 80%.

THE DENTAL INSURANCE RECEIVED NO INCREASE, BUT DUE TO THE MEDICAL MARKETING.

DENTAL WAS ALSO MARKETED AT NO WAS SELECTED FOR BUNDLING PACKAGE SAVINGS.

IT RESULTED IN A 3.8% DECREASE TO PREMIUM ROUGHLY ABOUT $3,600 IN ANNUAL SAVINGS.

THE RATES ARE GUARANTEED FOR THREE YEARS.

THE VISION POLICY WAS WITH VISAS RESULTED IN A 4% ANNUAL INCREASE.

MARKETING WAS DONE, INSURANCE WAS SELECTED.

THEY OFFERED SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE VISION PLAN.

IT WAS AN 11% PREMIUM ADJUSTMENT WITH A FOUR YEAR RATE GUARANTEE AND THERE IS A RATE CAP ON YEAR FIVE.

THE BASIC LIFE INSURANCE.

THE VOLUNTARY LIFE INSURANCE.

LONG TERM DISABILITY INSURANCE.

THAT'S WITH NEW YORK LIFE THAT RECEIVED NO INCREASE AND INCLUDES A THREE YEAR RATE GUARANTEE.

THE CONSUMER ACCOUNTS, THE HRA, HSA, FSA, AND THEN THE COBRA ADMINISTRATION THAT IS CURRENTLY WITH FLORES THAT WAS UNDER RATE GUARANTEE FOR THIS YEAR. IT IS UP FOR RENEWAL FOR ONE ONE, 2024.

AND THEN THE RETIREE BILLING WAS RECENTLY ADDED JULY 1ST OF 2023.

THE EMPLOYEE ASSISTANT PROGRAM THAT'S WITH ALLIANCE WORK PARTNERS THAT IS UNDER RATE GUARANTEE UNTIL ONE ONE OF 2024 AND THEN SOME OF THE NEW BENEFITS LEGAL SHIELD, THAT'S THE LEGAL AND IDENTITY THEFT PROTECTION, THE HUB CALL CENTER AND THE RESPONDERS HEALTH WERE IMPLEMENTED.

SO LOOKING BACK AT 2022, THIS IS YOUR UNITED HEALTH CARE MEDICAL CLAIMS UTILIZATION.

YOUR AVERAGE SUBSCRIBERS, THAT'S YOUR EMPLOYEE COUNT WAS 139.

YOUR PREMIUM PAID WAS RIGHT UNDER 1.8 MILLION.

MEDICAL CLAIMS SPEND A LITTLE OVER A MILLION PHARMACY CLAIMS AT 408,000 CAPITATION FEES.

THAT'S 74,000.

THOSE ARE TYPICALLY LIKE LAB SERVICES TO GIVE YOU A TOTAL CLAIM PAYMENT AT 1.5 MILLION.

SO AN 87% LOSS RATIO FOR LAST YEAR, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN TARGET.

TYPICALLY, INSURANCE COMPANIES WANT TO SEE THAT BETWEEN 80 AND 85%.

FOR FIRST QUARTER OF 2023.

THIS IS WITH AETNA.

YOUR AVERAGE ENROLLMENT IS 144.

YEAR TO DATE OR THROUGH FIRST QUARTER.

YOUR PREMIUM IS 306.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND YOU'LL SEE JANUARY AT 738.

THAT'S BECAUSE YOU RECEIVED THAT ONE MONTH CREDIT OF 150,000.

SO THAT KIND OF SKEWS THE LOSS RATIO THERE ALL THE WAY TO JUST A LITTLE BIT.

JUST A LITTLE BIT. YES.

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YOU'LL SEE YOUR MEDICAL CLAIMS AT 163.

PHARMACY CLAIMS AT 106.

AND THEN THAT GIVES YOU A TOTAL CLAIM PAYMENT, RIGHT, UNDER 170,000.

SO FOR THIS FIRST QUARTER, YOU'RE ABOUT 88% LOSS RATIO.

SO AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN TARGET, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE THAT NORMALIZED GOING INTO THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, WE DIDN'T DISCLOSE ANY OF THE MEDICAL CONDITIONS HERE DUE TO PRIVACY.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE SEVERE CHRONIC CONDITIONS THAT WE TYPICALLY LOOK FOR, LIKE YOUR HEART.

HEART DISEASE, CANCER TYPE CONDITIONS.

YOU DO HAVE SEVEN CLAIMANTS THAT EXCEEDED 15,000 AND PAID CLAIMS. THAT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR LEFT TO GIVE YOU A TOTAL CLAIM PAYMENT FOR JUST THOSE INDIVIDUALS AT 174,000 FOR THAT PERIOD.

NOW WE GO INTO 2024.

SO WE TAKE A LOOK AT A 24 MONTH CLAIM PERIOD TO DETERMINE WHAT TO EXPECT FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

SO WE HAVE YOUR MEDICAL CLAIM PROJECTION, PHARMACY CLAIM PROJECTION.

WE DID ADD SOME MARGIN IN THERE.

AGAIN, THAT'S TO FACTOR IN CHANGE IN HEADCOUNT, FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE UNDISCLOSED CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN.

SO THAT'S ABOUT 72,000 IN JUST THE MARGIN.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL CLAIMS PROJECTION, WE'RE SITTING ABOUT 1.5 MILLION.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NEEDED ANNUAL PREMIUM, WE'RE PROJECTING IT TO BE ABOUT 1.8.

YOUR CURRENT PREMIUM PREMIUM IS 1.6 MILLION.

SO WE WOULD LOOK AT A POTENTIAL 12% INCREASE FOR 2024.

AND THIS IS COMING IN, RIGHT? RIGHT UNDER THE CAP OF 13%.

WE INCLUDED SOME NOTES THERE AROUND MEDICAL TREND AND WHAT WAS FACTORED INTO THE PROJECTIONS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT BENCHMARK, THIS IS TAKING YOUR PLANS THAT YOU'RE OFFERING AND YOUR COSTS IN COMPARISON TO OTHER PUBLIC SECTOR IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA.

SO, WHEN WE LOOK AT A PER CAPITA COST, THAT'S PER EMPLOYEE, OTHER CITIES ARE SPENDING ROUGHLY CLOSE TO 14,000 PER EMPLOYEE PER YEAR, WHEREAS THE CITY OF SACHSE IS SPENDING 12,617.

SO IT IS BELOW THE BUDGET, OR I SHOULD SAY BELOW WHAT OTHER CITIES AROUND YOU ARE SPENDING FOR THEIR MEDICAL PLAN.

FOR THE EMPLOYER FUNDED PERCENTAGE, IT'S THE SAME AT 85%.

YOUR COINSURANCE FOR YOUR PPO IS 80%.

YOUR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN IS 100%.

YOU HAVE A DEDUCTIBLE ON YOUR PPO PLAN AND YOUR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HSA PLAN AT 5000.

BUT KEEP IN MIND, THE CITY DOES CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE HRA ACCOUNT THAT OFFSETS THAT DEDUCTIBLE.

SO IF YOU WERE TO FACTOR IN THAT $3,500 HRA REIMBURSEMENT, THE EMPLOYEE'S DEDUCTIBLE IS TECHNICALLY 1500.

AND THEN YOU COULD SEE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OFFICE VISITS, YOU KNOW, NOT FAR OFF FROM WHERE OTHER CITIES ARE AT THAT 30 AND 50 FOR SPECIALISTS.

AND THEN THE SAME FOR YOUR PHARMACY BENEFITS THERE AT THE BOTTOM.

SO GOING INTO 2024, WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PLAN PERFORMANCE.

SO YOUR CLAIMS UTILIZATION, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT CONTRIBUTIONS TO SEE IF WE CAN DO A BIT MORE OF A COST NEUTRAL TYPE FUNDING ARRANGEMENT.

AND THEN WE'LL INCLUDE SOME OTHER OPTIONS TO CONTROL COSTS.

THE DENTAL VISION BASIC LIFE IN THE DISABILITY PLAN ARE ACTUALLY UNDER RATE GUARANTEES, SO WE WON'T HAVE A RENEWAL FOR THOSE POLICIES.

THE HRA, HSA, FSA AND COBRA IS CURRENTLY WITH FLORAS.

IT IS UP FOR RENEWAL.

WE DO RECOMMEND EVALUATING THIS VENDOR DUE TO SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CHALLENGES, SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

THE EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS ALSO UP FOR RENEWAL FOR ONE ONE 2024 AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES THEY CAN OFFER.

THE OTHER BENEFITS LISTED THERE BELOW ARE UNDER RATE GUARANTEES, SO THERE ISN'T ANYTHING WE'LL NEED TO DO FOR THOSE.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

THANK YOU, MS. BLAKELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MS. BLAKELY? FROM COUNCIL? MR. PRESTENBERG. SO, IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES, YOU SAID ANNUAL PREMIUM PAID IS AROUND 1.81 MILLION. AND THE CLAIMS WERE 1.617 OR SO.

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YEAH. SO IT COMES OUT TO IF I'M DOING IT RIGHT, THAT MEANS WE PAID ROUGHLY 10% MORE THAN WHAT? THE CLAMS CAME OUT, RIGHT? SO THIS IS THE PROJECTION FOR 2024.

SO THE 1.8 MILLION FACTORS IN THE CLAIMS NEEDED FOR 2024 PLUS THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT AETNA WOULD NEED TO PROCESS YOUR CLAIMS CUSTOMER, BASICALLY THEIR OVERHEAD.

FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, IT'S PROJECTED TO BE AT 1.6 MILLION.

SO WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR 2023 VERSUS 2024, THAT END RESULT WOULD BE THAT 11.9%.

OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE? SURE. UM.

ONE MORE. ONE MORE.

ONE MORE, MAYBE. WELL.

OKAY. SO.

I GUESS WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT, THERE WAS A SLIDE IN HERE THAT WAS THAT WAS SHOWING THAT MAYBE IT WAS THE ONE BEFORE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES OVER.

LIKE WHAT Y'ALL LOOK FOR. LIKE AN 88 OR 85%.

YOU HAD SAID YOU TALK ABOUT LOSS RATIO.

YES. OH, SO, YEAH, THAT ONE.

PERFECT. THERE WE GO.

SO WHEN I READ THIS, I SEE.

87% LOSS RATIO.

THAT MEANS THE INSURANCE COMPANY GAINED 13% FROM FROM WHAT WE PAID.

THEY WOULD ACTUALLY THIS IS ALMOST CLOSE TO BREAK EVEN.

THEY TECHNICALLY LIKE TO RESERVE ABOUT 15 TO 20% FOR OVERHEAD.

SO THAT'S PLAYING EVERYONE'S SALARY AT THAT'S YOU THEIR.

SO YOU CAN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY DOLLAR $0.80 GOES TOWARDS MEDICAL CLAIMS AND THAT $0.20 GOES TOWARDS THE OVERHEAD. OKAY.

OKAY. AND I GUESS WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER.

MS. NASH ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO ACTUALLY LOOKING AT PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YES, IF YOU DON'T, I MEAN, I CAN GO AHEAD AND KIND OF.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO WORK CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WE'LL SEE THE CLAIMS. I MEAN, AS YOU CAN SEE WHAT SHE JUST PRESENTED, WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CLAIMS DATA RIGHT NOW.

SO WE ONLY HAVE DATA THROUGH MARCH ESSENTIALLY.

SO BECAUSE THE DATA IS IN ARREARS.

SO THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO US EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE SORT OF PLAYING THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG GAME WITH THE BUDGET.

AND SO, WE WAIT UNTIL WE CAN GET THE CLAIMS DATA AS CLOSE TO POSSIBLE.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO BID WITH ANOTHER COMPANY OR NOT.

AND SO THAT'S HUB MONITORS THIS AND THEN MAKES THE DECISION OF WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND STAY WITH AETNA OR IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND TAKE BIDS.

AND WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT IN THE FALL IN ORDER TO DO OPEN ENROLLMENT IN NOVEMBER AND BE ABLE TO GET EVERYBODY ENROLLED BY DECEMBER TO START THEIR INSURANCE IN JANUARY. SO WE HAVE TO GO ON, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY LITTLE DATA TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME TRY TO MAKE SOME INFORMED DECISIONS, WHICH WILL THEN HAPPEN ONCE WE BEGIN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR IN OCTOBER.

SO WHEN DO WE EXPECT SECOND QUARTER RESULTS TO COME IN OR START ROLLING IN? SO THROUGH SECOND QUARTER, I MEAN, WE'LL BE RIGHT AT RENEWAL.

SO. IT'LL BE IT'LL BE OCTOBER BEFORE WE HAVE DATA THROUGH SECOND QUARTER.

SO. AND IS ACTUALLY GOING TO USE CLAIMS DATA PROBABLY BASED ON FIVE MONTHS OF DATA BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPECTED TO RELEASE THE RENEWAL IN SEPTEMBER.

SO WE'RE TARGETING THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER TO SEE WHAT THE RESULTS ARE FOR FOR THE RENEWAL.

I'M JUST CURIOUS IF LOOKING AT LIKE MEDICAL CLAIMS. IT LOOKS LIKE IT ALMOST QUADRUPLED FROM FEBRUARY TO MARCH.

RIGHT. SO IS THERE A REASON? IS THE FIRST QUARTER CONSIDERED HIGHER OR YOU TRANSITIONED FROM ONE CARRIER TO ANOTHER? SO TYPICALLY, THERE'S A CLAIM LAG.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BEING SET UP INTO A NEW SYSTEM.

TYPICALLY CLAIMS ARE ON HOLD FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY INTO FEBRUARY.

AND THEN ALL OF THAT, ALL THE CLAIMS THAT ARE JUST SITTING THERE TO GET PAID END UP GETTING PAID IN MARCH.

OKAY. AND SO IF WE LOOK AT THE PRIOR YEAR, YOU COULD SEE KIND OF YOU WERE WITH UNITED FOREVER, SO YOU'RE NOT SEEING LOW CLAIM PAYMENTS FOR JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND MARCH.

YOU'RE JUST SEEING YOUR NORMAL CLAIM ACTIVITY IN THOSE MONTHS.

COME SEE.

I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT YOUR FOURTH QUARTER WOULD HAVE BEEN WAY HIGHER AS PEOPLE MEET THEIR DEDUCTIBLE AND START GOING OUT TO GET ALL THE SURGERIES THEY NEED.

BUT I GUESS THEY WERE TAKING HOLIDAY IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

[02:10:09]

HOLD ON. GOOD.

SO HRA IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AT THE MOMENT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADJUST EITHER FOR RECRUITMENT OR KEEPING EMPLOYEES HERE? ARE WE HAPPY WITH THAT NUMBER? I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE NUMBER.

IF YOU LOOK AT CERTAINLY WHERE WE ARE ON THIS BENCHMARK COMPARISON DATA, I THINK THAT WE'RE MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED THAN WE'VE EVER BEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE WITH THE PUBLIC SECTOR BENCHMARKS.

WE CERTAINLY AREN'T IT'S NOT PERFECT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE CATEGORIES, IT IS MUCH CLOSER THAN WE USED TO BE.

PLUS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT $3,500 DEDUCTIBLE REIMBURSEMENT, IT'S VERY CLOSELY BALANCES.

SO I THINK AT THIS POINT, BASED CERTAINLY BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES WITH AETNA, I THINK OVERALL WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION. AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARISON DATA, WE ARE RIGHT ALONGSIDE OTHERS RELATIVE TO RECRUITMENT.

THANKS. AND THEN ONE OF THE EARLIER SLIDES, YOU SAID TRANSFERRING EITHER TO AN 8020 OR FROM AN 8020.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TO A 70 OVER 30 CO-INSURANCE.

NOW, YOU WERE 7030.

SO YEAH. SO YOU'RE NOW 80 OVER 20.

THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANT TO VERIFY.

AND THAT WAS A BIG DEAL, BY THE WAY.

THAT WAS A HUGE DEAL. IT WAS A REALLY BIG DEAL TO PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHY WE REALLY WANTED TO DO WHAT WE COULD TO TRANSITION TO THAT.

AND BY MOVING TO AETNA, IT HELPED US BE ABLE TO FINANCIALLY, FEASIBLY AFFORD TO DO THAT.

I LIKE THAT. AND TYPICALLY THE FOURTH QUARTER IS THE HIGHEST CLAIM, BUT YOUR FOURTH QUARTER MAY NOT BE THE FOURTH QUARTER.

INSURANCE STARTS FOR TEACHERS STARTS SEPTEMBER 1ST.

SO THEIR FOURTH QUARTER IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER.

IF OUR STARTS OCTOBER 1ST, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO THINK OF THAT.

SO FOURTH QUARTER OF YOUR POLICY, I WOULD SAY TYPICALLY THE THE HIGHEST, BUT NOT ALWAYS.

AS YOU COULD SEE BY THOSE NUMBERS.

I LIKE GOING TO 8020.

I THINK IT'S WORTH.

ANY KIND OF.

I WON'T SAY THAT IT'S WORTH SOME KIND OF INCREASE TO DO THAT MORE FOR RECRUITMENT AND OR JUST KIND OF THE MARKET STANDARD.

THE HRA, I LIKE WE HAVE AN HRA WITH MY COMPANY TO KEEP PREMIUMS DOWN.

SO I LIKE THAT.

I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE INCREASED OR DECREASED.

I'M HAPPY WITH IT. I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THAT.

WHAT ABOUT FEES OR LIKE THE SMOKING PREMIUM AND THAT KIND OF STUFF? IS ANY OF THAT STUFF FOR PLANNING TO BE CHANGED? WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO CHANGE IT.

I DIDN'T THINK SO, BUT I FIGURED IT'D BE WORTH ASKING.

WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD SUCCESS WITH THE SMOKING CESSATION PROGRAMS, TOBACCO SURCHARGE.

WE HAVE VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO PAY THAT NOW.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THAT, WE HAD A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER AND WE'VE HAD A BIG REDUCTION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

AND THE ONLY OTHER NUMBER THAT STICKS OUT TO ME IS THE INPATIENT CLAIMS. THERE'S BEEN ONE, I BELIEVE, THAT WAS ON YOUR CHART FOR ONLY $20,000.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH.

IN PATIENT PAID AMOUNT 21,002.

YES, BUT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, COULD BE FROM A MATERNITY, TOO.

YEAH. NO, NO, I'M HAPPY WITH THAT NUMBER.

YEAH, IT'S LOW. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I DON'T WANT 20 PEOPLE HAVING INPATIENT CLAIMS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE CLAIMS TYPICALLY.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S HELPED OUR NUMBER AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, 88% LOSS RATIO HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR BETTER NUMBERS OVER THE LAST DECADE.

SO IT'S NOT GREAT, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN 150.

WE'VE HAD THAT. SO THANKS.

YEAH, THE LOSS RATIO IS ONE OF THE BEST NUMBERS I SAW TONIGHT.

SO, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BLAKELY FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU, MISS BLAKELY.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. MS. NASH, DO YOU HAVE YOUR DIRECTION? YES, SIR. JUST AS A SUMMARY OF THIS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

SO, SHE PROVIDED AN UPDATE TONIGHT.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE CLAIMS THROUGHOUT THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

WE WILL GO AHEAD AND BUDGET AT THE HIGHER PERCENTAGE JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S A RATE GUARANTEE AND THAT LOCKS US IN.

BUT ALSO, AS A REMINDER, WE DO HAVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE WITHIN THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND, AND WE DO THAT.

SO WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO A DRAWDOWN IF WE NEED TO AND REALLY HELP NORMALIZE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS.

SO, IT'S DOING ITS JOB AND WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO BY HAVING IT IN A SEPARATE FUND AND MONITORING IT WITH A FUND BALANCE SO WE CAN NORMALIZE AND MAKE THAT LESS STRESSFUL ON THE GENERAL FUND.

THANK YOU, MS. NASH. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM F ONE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 5.51.087 DELIBERATION

[F. Executive Session]

[02:15:05]

REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.

DISCUSSION OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE FOR BUNKER HILL RETAIL, LLC FOR A PROJECT GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG BUNKER HILL ROAD AND MILES ROAD, AND FOR RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS PROJECTS SEEKING TO LOCATE WITHIN THE CITY OF SACHSE.

ITEM F.2 EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551 .087 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.

DISCUSSION OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE FOR PROJECT DESIGN.

MS. GRANGER 8:45 P.M.

WE'RE NOW ADJOURNED INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:45 P.M..

ARE WE READY, MS. GRANGER? YES. OKAY.

WE ARE NOW.

WE HAVE CLEARED OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

TIME IS GRANGER 9:02 P.M.

9:02 P.M. WE ARE NOW BACK IN OPEN SESSION.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM G.1.

[1. Take action as a result of executive session: Consider authorizing the City Manager to negotiate and execute an economic development agreement on behalf of the City of Sachse with Bunker Hill Retail, LLC, for a project generally located along Bunker Hill Road and Miles Road, and any amendments and instruments related thereto.]

TAKE ACTION AND RESULTS OF EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SACHSE WITH BUNKER HILL RETAIL BUNKER HILL RETAIL, LLC FOR A PROJECT GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG BUNKER HILL ROAD AND MILES ROAD, AND ANY AMENDMENTS AND INSTRUMENTS RELATED THERETO.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR MOTIONS.

MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS. YES.

MAYOR. MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BUNKER HILL RETAIL LLC FOR PROJECT GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG BUNKER HILL ROAD AND MILES ROAD, AND ANY AMENDMENTS AND INSTRUMENTS RELATED THERETO.

I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE RUNNING A RACE, BUT THAT'S GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

IS THERE A SECOND, MS. HOWARTH? SECOND. SECOND BY MISS HARRIS.

SHE DIDN'T SAY IT QUITE FAST, THOUGH.

OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

OH, WE LOCKED DOWN. OKAY, FRANK.

WE CAN ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

OH. OH, DO WE NEED TO ACTUALLY RAISE OUR HAND OR.

OH, THERE WE GO. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

[2. Take action as a result of Executive Session: Consider authorizing the City Manager to negotiate and execute an economic development agreement on behalf of the City of Sachse for Project Fern and any amendments and instruments related thereto.]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM G TO TAKE ACTION AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SACHSE FOR PROJECT BURN AND ANY AMENDMENTS AND INSTRUMENTS RELATED THERETO.

SO, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE, DISCUSSION AND MOTION FROM COUNCIL.

DO YOU WANT ME TO KEEP YOU ON? THERE YOU GO.

OH, YOU'RE. OH, YOU'RE. YOU'RE ALREADY ON.

OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

YEAH. MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN ECONOMIC AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY ON PROJECT FOR AN ANY AMENDMENTS AND INSTRUMENTS RELATED TO THERETO. OKAY.

THANK YOU. EVERYBODY. GOT THAT? IS THERE A SECOND? MS. HOWARTH? SECOND.

SECOND BY MISS HOWARD. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AMONG COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

I THINK MS. GRANGER IS MAKING THE NECESSARY ACCOMMODATIONS TO GET OUR VOTE OUT.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM G THREE ADJOURNMENT.

THE TIME IS GRANGER 9:05 P.M.

WE'RE NOW ADJOURNED AT 9:05 P.M.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.