E. Consent Agenda - All items listed on the consent agenda will be considered by the City Council and will be enacted on by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Councilmember so requests.

[E. Consent Agenda - All items listed on the consent agenda will be considered by the City Council and will be enacted on by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Councilmember so requests.]

ALL ITEMS LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBERS STILL REQUESTS.

ITEM E1 APPROVE THE JUNE 3RD, 2024, MEETING MINUTES.

ITEM 2 APPROVE A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE PROJECT SPECIFIC AGREEMENT REGARDING THE STRIPING OF TYPE B PUBLIC ROADWAYS MADE PURSUANT TO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE MASTER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF SACHSE AND DALLAS COUNTY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRANSPORTATION RELATED MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS TO BE UNDERTAKEN ON TYPE B ROADWAYS LOCATED WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL AND JURISDICTIONAL LIMITS OF THE CITY IN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ITEM 3, APPROVE A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING A PRELIMINARY 2024 ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN UPDATE FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FOR THE SACHSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1, INCLUDING A DETERMINATION OF COST, A SERVICE PLAN, AND ASSESSMENT ROLES, DIRECTING THAT THE PRELIMINARY 2024 ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN UPDATE BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION, ORDERING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 19TH, 2024, TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE LEVYING ASSESSMENTS AGAINST THE ASSESSED PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT IS ESPECIALLY BENEFITED BY AUTHORIZING SERVICES BEING FINANCED, AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE PUBLICATION AND MAILING OF NOTICES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, PROVIDING A SEPARABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ANY COUNCILMEMBER THAT WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ANYTHING OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS. MS. BUHLER.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BUHLER TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND. MR. PRESTENBERG.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. PRESTENBERG. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM F, REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.

[1. Discuss and consider authorizing the City Manager to spend an amount not to exceed $300,000 for special debris pickup by Community Waste Disposal (CWD) due to the May 28, 2024, storms.]

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ITEM 1, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SPEND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $300,000 FOR SPECIAL DEBRIS PICKUP BY COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL, CWD DUE TO THE MAY 28TH, 2024, INSTALLMENTS. MS. NASH.

>> MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THIS PRESENTATION BY GIVING YOU THIS PRESENTATION WITH REGARD TO WHERE WE ARE WITH STORM DEBRIS PICK UP AND GET SOME POLICY DIRECTION AND DECISION MAKING FROM YOU ALL AS TO WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO RELATIVE TO NEXT STEPS WITH PICKING THAT UP.

I WILL GIVE THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

JASON RAMER WITH CWD IS HERE, ACTUALLY HE WAS ALREADY PLANNED TO BE HERE FOR THE COMMERCIAL TRANSITION DISCUSSION LATER IN THE AGENDA, AND HE GETS TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

REALLY, I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE STORM.

WHAT OUR COLLECTION PLAN HAS BEEN, HOW WE'VE COMMUNICATED WITH THE PUBLIC, SHARING SOME PHOTOS WITH YOU, GIVE YOU A CURRENT UPDATE, AND THEN REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

SO ON THE MORNING OF MARCH 28, OBVIOUSLY, WE EXPERIENCED SEVERE WEATHER CONDITIONS THAT REALLY CAUSED WIDESPREAD DAMAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND WE KNEW THAT WE HAD STRONG STORMS, BUT WITH SOME IN INTENSITY TO THEM, BUT THE SEVERE WINDS, CERTAINLY THE MAYOR CAN TELL YOU OVER 70 MILES AN HOUR AND REALLY EQUIVALENT TO A LEVEL 1 HURRICANE IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF WINDS THAT WE HAD.

SO THAT REALLY LED TO DOWNED POWER LINES, OF COURSE, NUMEROUS BROKEN TREES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THE SEVERITY OF THIS WEATHER, UNFORTUNATELY, RESULTED IN CERTAINLY DISRUPTION OF SERVICES, AND WE'VE HAD TO DO SOME EXTENSIVE CLEANUP NOT JUST BY US, BUT RESIDENTS, AND IT'S REALLY BEEN A BIG COMMUNITY EFFORT.

BUT WE REALLY HAD COMMUNITY ISSUES CITYWIDE WITH THIS, WHERE WE HAD SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WEREN'T IMPACTED AT ALL.

I'VE DRIVEN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH REGARD TO THIS STORM MULTIPLE TIMES, AND THERE WERE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAD NO POWER THAT LITERALLY DIDN'T HAVE A LEAF ON THE GROUND.

AND THEN I HAD NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAD EVERY TREE DOWN YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE AND EVERYTHING KIND OF IN BETWEEN, SO REALLY DISPARATE EFFECTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WE WERE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT A PLAN WITH CWD STARTING ON SATURDAY, JUNE 1ST.

IT WAS REALLY THE FIRST DAY WE WERE ABLE TO START THE CLEAN UP.

THE PLAN COMMENCED THAT DATE.

CWD DID HAVE SOME SCHEDULING DIFFICULTIES TRYING TO COMPLETE THE MAY BLUE ZONE COLLECTION FROM THE HOLIDAY WEEK.

AS YOU RECALL, THAT LAST WEEK OF MAY, JUNE 1ST, WE KIND OF RAN INTO THE JUNE CALENDAR BECAUSE OF THAT, THE WAY THAT THOSE DATES FELL, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO CLEAN UP FROM THE MAY BLUE ZONE COLLECTION HOLIDAY WEEK.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CHALLENGES THERE WITH SCHEDULING TRYING TO GET THAT STARTED.

WE DID INVITE RESIDENTS TO PUT THEIR STORM DEBRIS ON THEIR FRONT CURBS WITH NO LIMITS ON SIZE.

AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO GET THINGS CLEANED UP AND OFF THE CURBS AS FAST AS WE CAN.

THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE THOUGHT WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IN DISCUSSIONS WITH CWD IS TO PUT ROLL OFF DUMPSTERS SO RESIDENTS COULD PUT ANY DEBRIS THAT THEY COULD HAUL OUT AT EITHER WHITT ELEMENTARY OR HERITAGE PARK.

THESE ARE EMPTIED EVERY OTHER DAY.

THEY ARE FILLED TO THE BRIM, AND THEN WE ARE EMPTYING THEM.

RESIDENTS ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO DIRECT DROP OFFS AT THE HINTON LANDFILL FOR FREE AS PART OF THE CITY'S SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND.

BUT I KNOW THAT THE LINES THERE WERE PRETTY CRAZY, PEOPLE TRYING TO DUMP, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE REFUSE HAULERS ALSO TRYING TO TAKE THINGS THERE AT THE SAME TIME, SO IT WAS PRETTY CROWDED.

WE WORKED REALLY HARD SINCE MAY 28TH TO COMMUNICATE.

WE WERE COMMUNICATING ALMOST BY THE HOUR THAT FIRST DAY, AND MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY SINCE THEN, AND THEN WE'VE TRIED TO LIMIT SOME OF OUR EMAILS AND POSTINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, JUST TO MAKE SURE IMPORTANT INFORMATION DOESN'T GET HIDDEN.

AND I THINK ESTHER, OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGIST, HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF TRYING TO MAKE THESE LARGER POSTS TO KEEP THEM FULL OF INFORMATION, BUT THAT WAY, NOT BEING ONE AT A TIME, SO PEOPLE CAN READ ONE THING AND REALLY GET EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO KNOW WITH REGARD TO OUR STORM CLEANUP.

>> WE POSTED OUR PLAN ON THURSDAY, MAY 30TH, AND INITIALLY, WE ANNOUNCED THAT REGULAR BULK AND BRUSH WOULD CONTINUE, AND WE ASKED THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD PLEASE WAIT TO PLACE THEIR REGULAR BULK OUT UNTIL THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PICKUP AND NOT DO IT DURING THIS SPECIAL DEBRIS CLEANUP.

BUT ONCE THE FULL SCOPE OF THE CLEANUP BECAME APPARENT, WE ANNOUNCED AT THE JUNE 3RD, CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT CWD WOULD THEN BE JUST PRIORITIZING STORM DEBRIS COLLECTION.

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AT THAT POINT, WE'RE ASKING RESIDENTS, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PLACING YOUR REGULAR BULK OUT THIS MONTH.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET A TIMELY PICKUP OF THIS BRUSH AND OTHER DEBRIS THAT PEOPLE CAN'T HELP, BUT NEED TO GET THAT PICKED UP.

JUNE 4TH, WE POSTED THE SAME INFORMATION ON OUR CHANNELS AND REALLY ASKED EVERYBODY TO GO AHEAD, PLEASE DROP OFF AT WHITT ELEMENTARY AND A HERITAGE PARK, BUT TRY TO KEEP ANY OF YOUR REGULAR BULK THAT ISN'T OF AN EMERGENCY MATTER TO TRY NOT TO PUT OFF PUTTING THAT OUT.

THEN WE DID A WEEKLY UPDATE ON JUNE 11TH, REITERATING THIS INFORMATION, AGAIN, ONLY PUTTING OUT THE EMERGENCY STUFF AND PROVIDING AN OVERALL UPDATE ON CWD'S PROGRESS.

HERE'S SOME PICTURES JUST OF A TYPICAL TRUCK THAT CWD HAS OUT THERE AND THE PILES THAT THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO CLEAN UP, SO YOU KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF THE VEHICLE THAT'S USED AND THE PILES THAT FOLKS HAVE.

SOME OF THESE I WOULD CONSIDER THESE MAYBE TO BE SLIGHTLY AVERAGE.

A LOT OF WHAT YOU SEE OUT THERE IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THIS.

THE PHOTO TO THE LEFT WAS OF A HOME THE DAY THAT THE MAYOR AND I WENT OUT AND TALKED TO RESIDENTS, THIS WAS A HUGE TREE THAT JUST UPROOTED AND BROKE THEIR DRIVEWAY.

THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE HOUSES WITH JUST YARDS AND YARDS OF DEBRIS IN FRONT OF THEM.

SINCE JUNE 3RD, CWD HAS SPENT OVER 197 HOURS AND COLLECTED 264 TONS OF MATERIAL FROM THE CURB.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT CLEAR THAT WHILE I KNOW SOME FOLKS ARE FRUSTRATED THAT SOME OF THE THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN PICKED UP, 264 TONS IS A LOT OF STUFF.

THEY HAVE COMPLETED 11 ROLL OFF HALLS AT THE HERITAGE PARK AND WHITT ELEMENTARY LOCATIONS, AND THEY HAVE USED A TRANSFER TRAILER LOCATED HERE AT CITY HALL TO OFFLOAD THE BRUSH TRUCK TO, AGAIN, TRY TO KEEP THEM GETTING OUT THERE AND PICKING THAT STUFF UP OFF OF PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES.

THIS SAVES THEM TIME BY NOT HAVING TO TAKE THOSE MULTIPLE TRIPS TO THE LANDFILL, AND AS I SAID, WAITING IN LINE AT THE LANDFILL, AT ONE POINT WAS TAKING TWO HOURS JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE LANDFILL AND DUMP.

WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR HERE IS A CONVERSATION TONIGHT AMONGST YOU ALL TO GET SOME POLICY DIRECTION ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO NEXT WITH REGARD TO THIS SPECIAL STORM CLEANUP.

WHAT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA IS SEEKING APPROVAL REALLY TO COVER THE COSTS IF WE WERE TO GO AND TRY TO CLEAN EVERYTHING ELSE UP.

THIS IS AN ESTIMATE BASED ON A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH JASON RAMER ABOUT WHAT WE THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THIS.

WE'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT TO DO NEXT WITH REGARD TO THE DEBRIS REMOVAL.

THE WAY WE WOULD FUND THIS IS, AS YOU RECALL, FROM LAST YEAR, FROM THE BUDGET, THE 2023-'24 BUDGET, YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO SET ASIDE A CITY MANAGER CONTINGENCY OF $100,000 FOR SITUATIONS JUST LIKE THIS.

I DIDN'T THINK WE'D END UP USING IT THE FIRST YEAR, BUT HERE WE ARE.

THIS IS A POSSIBILITY, BUT I OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL IN WHICH TO DO SO.

THEN ALSO, WE THINK THAT WE WILL HAVE DEPARTMENT SAVINGS FROM THINGS LIKE VACANCIES AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN DEPARTMENTS THAT WE THINK WOULD BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH AMOUNT TO COVER ALL OF THE NEED.

AGAIN, AS OF LATE LAST WEEK, 197 HOURS AND 264 TONS, BUT ONLY 20% OF THE CITY HAS BEEN COLLECTED.

NOW, WHAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT IS, I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THE MATH AND THINK THIS IS A LINEAR EQUATION BECAUSE IT ISN'T.

JUST BECAUSE 20% HAS BEEN COLLECTED, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S GOING TO BE AN EQUAL AMOUNT FOR 80% OF THE REST OF THE CITY.

THEY TRIED TO HIT WORST FIRST AND THE STREETS THAT HAD SUCH BIG PILES THAT THERE WERE SITE ISSUES, SITE VISIBILITY, THAT KIND OF THING.

WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY HIT THE HARDEST HIT ONES FIRST.

THAT'S HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS FROM HERE IS WE DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE DO UTILIZE THE FUNDS UP TO THE AMOUNT THAT YOU AUTHORIZE, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO COLLECT THIS.

WHAT I DO WANT TO MENTION THOUGH IS A CAVEAT TO THAT IS UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE GO BUY A HOME OR HOMES ON THE STREET AND WE PICK UP THIS DEBRIS, PEOPLE ARE PUTTING MORE OUT.

THE HARD PART IS, YOU CAN STILL SWEEP A CITY, THE WHOLE CITY, AND THEY'LL PUT MORE OUT AGAIN.

ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS AND TOPICS I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT IS, AT WHAT POINT DO WE SAY, THIS IS THE AMOUNT WE CAN PICK UP AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO?

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BECAUSE OTHERWISE, I THINK WE COULD GET IN A SITUATION WHERE IT JUST DOESN'T END AND WE KEEP GOING AROUND THE CITY AND PICKING UP MORE AND MORE RELATIVE TO THAT.

QUESTIONS, LET ME TURN THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE'RE REALLY IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH CWD.

OBVIOUSLY, LOGAN IS FEELING THE MAJORITY OF THE CALLS. HE'S STILL HERE.

I'M PRETTY GLAD OF THAT BECAUSE HE'S BEEN HIT PRETTY HARD WITH CONTACT FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS AND FRUSTRATIONS, AND HE'S HANDLED THAT VERY WELL AND VERY PROFESSIONALLY AND TRYING TO GET PEOPLE HELP AND GETTING THEM ANSWERS AS WE CAN.

BUT AGAIN, AS I SAID, WE REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND DIRECTION AND FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL.

HOW MUCH MORE DO WE WANT TO PROCEED? DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH SPECIAL COLLECTION POINTS? WHEN DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND REINSTATE STANDARD BOLT COLLECTION? WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE WEEKLY UPDATES ON STORM DEBRIS MANAGEMENT TO RESIDENTS.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, SO PEOPLE FEEL LIKE WE'RE HEARING THEM AND THEY'RE GETTING UPDATES AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING SO THEY DON'T THINK WE'RE NOT DOING THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION AND GET THIS STUFF PICKED UP.

WITH THAT, MAYOR, REALLY ANSWER QUESTIONS AND GET FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM YOU ALL. [INAUDIBLE] I KNOW HOW TO PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU, MS. NASH. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MR. LINDSAY.

>> WELL, I SEE THAT WE MADE A PROMISE TO OUR CITIZENS ALREADY.

WE SAID, IF YOU PUT IT OUT ON THE CURB, WE WILL GET TO IT, SO I'M DEFINITELY FOR COMPLETING THE REMAINING AREAS AND IT SHOULD JUST BE A SWEEP.

AT THIS POINT, WE CAN'T GO BACK AND REVISIT THE AREAS THAT WE DID.

I UNDERSTAND EARLY ON, WE MAY HAVE REVISITED SOME AREAS BECAUSE IT WAS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL GETTING OUT TO THE CURB, BUT BY NOW, IT SHOULD BE ASSUMED THAT ALL THE DEBRIS HAS MADE IT TO THE CURB, SO WE SHOULD SYSTEMATICALLY GO THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE CITY.

FULFILL OUR PROMISE THAT WE MADE, GET IT TO THE CURB, WE WILL PICK IT UP.

CONTINUE OFFERING THE ROLL OFF DUMPSTERS AS WELL.

THE QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE IS THAT, CLAY JENKINS WITHIN THE COUNTY OF DALLAS, ALSO, I GUESS, IN COLLIN COUNTY AND THEN ALSO OUR STATE GOVERNOR DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY.

FEMA HAS PICKED IT UP AS WELL FROM A NATIONAL LEVEL.

THERE'S VARIOUS REIMBURSEMENTS THROUGH FEMA, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN SAY TO OUR CITIZENS REGARDING WHAT REIMBURSEMENTS WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR AT THIS PERIOD?

>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT, COUNCILMAN LINDSAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY PROMISES WITH THIS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE FEMA REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS MANY TIMES IN MY CAREER.

SOMETIMES THEY WILL SAY THAT WE WILL GET 100% REIMBURSEMENT, AND IT JUST DOESN'T END UP HAPPENING.

WE ARE WORKING IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH KYLE POTRAZA, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ANALYST AND CHIEF WADE TO TRY TO GATHER ALL THE DATA TO TURN IN ALL OF THE PAPERWORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THAT WE COULD GET REIMBURSED FOR ALL OF IT, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW.

I'VE SIGNED ALL THE DOCUMENTATION FOR THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO START THE PROCESS, AND WE ARE RECORDING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND MAKING SURE THAT WE RECORD TIME THAT'S BEEN WORKED AND AMOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN HAULED AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

I HOPE THAT WE WILL GET REIMBURSED FOR THIS, OFTEN THOUGH THESE REIMBURSEMENTS COULD TAKE A YEAR OR TWO AS THEY TRY TO SORT THROUGH THESE KINDS OF STORMS. WE WILL ABSOLUTELY DO THE WORK TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR IT. YES.

>> MR. PRESTENBERG.

>> YES.

>> FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO OUR CITY STAFF AND CWD.

I LOVE THE COMMUNICATION.

I LOVE THE PRESENCE THAT I'VE SEEN, NOT ONLY ONLINE, BUT JUST OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

I LOVE THAT THE TRUCKS ARE ROLLING, AND I LOVE THAT THE PICKUPS TO DATE HAVE HAPPENED AND THE TONNAGE THAT'S BEEN PICKED UP SHOWS ALL THE HARD WORK TO DATE.

ON THIS UP TO $300,000 MARK, IS THAT JUST FOR CLEANUP? THAT'S NOT ANY REPLACEMENT OF ANY LOST TREES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?

>> IT IS STRAIGHT CLEANUP.

>> I'M TALKING FOR THE CITY.

>> YES, SIR.

>> THEN FROM A BULK PICKUP STANDPOINT, DO WE BELIEVE THAT UP TO OR NOT TO EXCEED 300K WILL LAST FOR THE 80%?

>> WE DO.

>> WE DO?

>> YES.

>> GREAT. THEN WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FOR THE REMAINING 80%? WE'VE DONE THE MASS, THE 20% FIRST, BUT WHAT'S THE OTHER 80% LOOK LIKE?

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>> WE NEED TO WORK WITH JASON ON A PLAN SPECIFICALLY AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THIS.

FIRST, WHAT I WANTED TO DO BEFORE HE PUT FORTH THAT EFFORT WAS TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL WERE INTERESTED IN DOING.

BUT WE THINK IT COULD TAKE THREE WEEKS TO A MONTH.

>> WELL, THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT THING IS, WOULD JULY 1ST BE TOO SOON? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST FOR THEIR SAKE AND OUR OWN PLANNING SAKE THAT IT STARTS ON THE 1ST.

WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO, IF WE THINK IT'S TWO-AND-HALF MONTHS, THEN LET'S MAKE IT SEPTEMBER 1ST.

IF WE THINK IT'S A MONTH AND A HALF THEN AUGUST 1ST TO ROLL OUT NORMAL BULK PICKUP SCHEDULES.

TO COUNCILMAN LINDSAY'S QUESTION OR COMMENT YES, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE LEAVING OUT MULTIPLE DAYS WORTH OF STUFF AFTER YOU JUST PICK IT UP, BUT WE MADE A PROMISE.

LET'S HOLD IT, KEEP IT.

THEN LET THEM KNOW AND COMMUNICATE THAT YOU'VE GOT THIS, I WANT TO SAY GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD, BUT IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT.

BUT IF THEY GOT STUFF, GET IT OUT BECAUSE ON THIS DATE, IT'S GOING BACK TO NORMAL 7 CUBIC YARD, 8 CUBIC.

>> SIX.

>> SIX. THANK YOU. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT MANY TIMES.

>> YOU'RE CLOSE.

>> I WON'T BRING UP SISTER CITIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I LOVE READING THE DAILY TEA ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, AND WHEN I DIVE DEEPER, AND I ASK, ARE YOU SACHSE? THE FIRST THING I GET IS NO.

I'M LIKE, THERE YOU GO.

REALLY HUGE COMBINATIONS TO THE CITY STAFF AND THE CWD, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? MS. BUHLER.

>> I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

THIS IS DEFINITELY OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS.

WE SAID WE WOULD PICK IT ALL UP, SO THIS CHARGE IS A VITAL SERVICE FOR OUR CITY, SO I SUPPORT IT.

>> MR. MILLSAP.

>> I AGREE ALSO THAT SINCE WE MADE THE COMMITMENT, WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

ALSO, I GOT TO COME BACK AND MAKE US ANOTHER COMMENT.

IF YOU REMEMBER, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE WERE DOING A BULK TRASH PRICE PICKUP.

WE HAD A PHENOMENAL OFFER FROM CWD THAT KEEP A CERTAIN PRICE.

NOW, I THINK THE SCENARIO I USED WAS SIMILAR TO BUYING GASOLINE.

YOU HAVE A CONTRACT THAT YOU COULD BUY 10 GALLONS OR 10 CUBIC YARDS FOR SO MANY CENTS PER YARD.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO UP THAT TO ABOUT $0.19 PER YARD OR PER GALLON, SO WE DECIDED, WE'LL KEEP IT AT SIX CUBIC YARDS, WHERE WE COULD HAVE GONE TO 10, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS NOW BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, ANYTHING WHEN YOU GO BACK TO NORMAL PICKUP, ANYTHING OVER SIX CUBIC YARDS PER RESIDENCE IS GOING TO BE EXTRA COST TO THEM, WHERE WE COULD HAVE HAD 10 YARDS AT THE SAME PRICE.

I THINK WE, AS A CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN REMISS, NOT LOOKING AT LONG-TERM FUTURE.

AS WE ALL KNOW, TORNADOES IS JUST LIKE FLOODS.

THEY COME IN CYCLES, THEY COME IN 10, 50, 100-YEAR, 200-YEAR FLOODPLAINS YEARS.

WE'VE GOT TO START MAKING ARRANGEMENTS.

WE HAVEN'T HAD A TORNADO LIKE THIS IN YEARS, BUT WE'RE DUE FOR ONE.

WE MIGHT DUE FOR ANOTHER ONE, AND WE HAVE MADE NO ARRANGEMENTS.

A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS NOW IS THE CITY'S DOING, AND SO I THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE THE ONE TO COUGH UP THE MONEY AND DO WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THE COMMUNITY PICKED UP.

OTHERWISE, IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG TIME AND A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE PAYING FOR BECAUSE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, A PART OF IT ANYWAY.

YOU LOOK THROUGH TOWN, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LIMBS THAT ARE STILL IN THE TREES, STILL IN THE YARDS, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO PLACE TO PUT THEM OUT FRONT.

WE CAN'T REALLY SAY, WELL, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO PICK THIS BULK UP ON EMERGENCY BASIS FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG TIME.

IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THE ICE STORM LAST WINTER.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A LOT OF DAMAGE UNTIL LATER.

I THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS AS NEEDED UNTIL WE GET IT PICKED UP.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

>> WELL, I'LL BE THE ONE THAT SAYS THAT 300,000 IS RIDICULOUS.

BUT EVERY PRICE TAG OF EVERY PROJECT YOU'LL BRING TO COUNCIL IS RIDICULOUS.

THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST THESE DAYS.

SCENARIO TIME.

I CONSIDER MY NEIGHBORHOOD ONE OF THE HARDEST HIT AREAS, BUT I'M SURE EVERYONE THINKS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE HARDEST HIT AREA.

MY NEIGHBOR AND I CUT TREES THE WEEK AND AFTER IN BOTH MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD, PUT THEM ON THE CURB.

THEY WERE PICKED UP WITHIN THE WEEK.

HE HAS HAD CREWS TO COME OUT.

HE'S GOT THE SAME, IF NOT MORE ON HIS CURB NOW.

HE HAS A LARGER LOTS OF TREE DAMAGE, LOTS OF TREES.

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WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TYPE OF SCENARIO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PICKED UP THAT PEOPLE MAY HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CREWS COME OUT WITHIN THE WEEK OR TWO OF THEIR BULK TRASH COME BY AND PICK THOSE UP.

NOW THAT 20% HAS ALREADY BEEN PICKED UP, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET PICKED UP AGAIN, OR ARE WE? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO IRON OUT.

GREAT. GOOD DISCUSSION.

I FEEL LIKE I'M TALKING TO MY KIDS.

>> WELL, WHO'S YOUR QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

>> YES. THAT'S A DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE. IT'S NOT ONE PERSON.

I IMAGINE THAT THERE'S NOT TOO MANY HOUSEHOLDS, BUT AS COUNCILMAN MILLSAP SAID, THERE'S A COUPLE OF BRANCHES OF MY TREES THAT ARE WAY UP THERE, MY TREE GUY SAYS, WE'LL GET TO THEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE.

I'M NOT IN A HURRY, HE'S NOT IN A HURRY.

WELL, HE PROBABLY IS, BUT HE'S BUSY.

I GET CARDS ON MY DOOR A COUPLE A WEEK FROM TREE PEOPLE, AND I'VE CALLED A COUPLE OF THEM AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE'D BE GLAD TO GET OUT THERE.

GREAT. WHEN CAN YOU BE HERE? WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.

WE WANT YOUR BUSINESS, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN WE CAN COME DO IT.

AS A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES AND/OR FOLKS ARE BUSY WITH OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, I'LL SAY IS FOR THEIR BUSINESS.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THE 80% THAT HASN'T BEEN PICKED UP, AND THE ONE TIME THROUGH, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE EQUITABLE FOR SOME OF THE HARDER HIT AREAS, AND SOME OF THE HARDER HIT AREAS MAY NOT EVEN HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PICKED UP YET.

>> DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO WE'LL GO THERE FIRST. MS. BUHLER.

>> AT THIS POINT WHERE SO MUCH NOT PICKED UP, I WOULD BE HESITANT TO MAKE A DATE.

LIKE YOU SAID, SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE THE ROOM TO PUT OUT THE DEBRIS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH ALREADY ON THE CURB.

COULD WE JUST ADDRESS THIS AT EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEETING GOING FORWARD UNTIL WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE TIMELINE AND ADDRESS A DATE AT THE POINT WHERE WE FEEL LIKE IT'S COMING TO AN END?

>> WELL, MY QUESTION ACTUALLY BE, WHEN YOU SAY ADDRESS IT AT EVERY MEETING?

>> WE'LL GET AN UP STORM, CLEAN UP UP DATE, AND THEN AT SOME POINT WHEN WE'VE REALIZED WE'RE REACHING COMPLETION, THEN SET A DATE.

I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S PREMATURE WHEN 20% HAS TAKEN 17 DAYS.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TIMELINE THE REST OF THE CITY IS GOING TO BE.

>> NO, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

IRONICALLY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF NOT BEING LINEAR, THE OTHER 80%, AND I THINK THE TIME FRAME IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT, IS THAT NOBODY REALLY KNOWS FROM TODAY IT'LL BE 28 DAYS, AND IT WILL BE DONE.

BUT I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE QUESTION NOBODY COULD PROBABLY ANSWER, REALLY. MR. LINDSAY.

>> I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER HERE JUST ON POLICY BASED ON WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS WAS SAYING.

IF YOU HIRE A PROFESSIONAL TO COME OUT AND DO TREE TRIMMING, OUR POLICY AND THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT I'VE SEEN THAT WE PUT OUT THE WAY.

I READ THAT IS, YOU'RE HIRING A PROFESSIONAL, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HAULING IT OFF, AND THAT IT'S NOT LEGAL IN THAT SENSE TO PUT YOUR LIMBS AND TREES AT THE FRONT.

DID I READ THAT CORRECTLY?

>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE IS, YOU'VE HIRED A SERVICE, AND THAT SERVICE IS SUPPOSED TO THEN TAKE THOSE LIMBS FOR YOU.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE IDEA.

THEY'RE A CONTRACTOR, AND SO CONTRACTORS DOING THEIR OWN WORK SHOULD HAUL OFF THEIR OWN WORK AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING IN THAT.

WHAT OUR GOAL HERE IS RESIDENTS TRIMMING THEIR OWN TREES AND TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR THINGS AND PUT THEM TO THE CURB WE WANT TO PICK THAT STUFF UP FOR THEM AND GET IT OFF OF THE CURB FOR THEM.

THOSE THAT ARE HIRING TREE SERVICES, THAT'S A SERVICE THAT SHOULD BE THEN TAKING THAT.

THAT'S A CONTRACTOR SERVICE THEY SHOULD BE TAKING THAT AWAY.

>> WE'RE USING THE TERM SHOULD VERSUS MUST SO TECHNICALLY, SOMEBODY COULD PAY A PROFESSIONAL, AND IT'S OKAY IF THEY DUMP THE ADDITIONAL DEBRIS ONTO THE CURB ON THERE.

>> IT'S NOT OUR PREFERENCE, BUT THEY CERTAINLY CAN.

>> GOT YOU. AS FAR AS THE TIMING OF IT, THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT THE STORM DEBRIS REMOVAL IS WHAT FELL TO THE GROUND.

UNDERSTANDABLY TREES, CERTAIN LIMBS MAY HAVE FALLEN, AND NOW IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO GO AND TRIM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TREE TO BALANCE IT OUT AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND TO ME, THAT JUST FALLS UNDERNEATH THE REGULAR, YARD WORK THAT SOMEBODY WOULD DO.

THE LONGER WE TAKE AND GETTING TO THE LAST PEOPLE, THE MORE THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO ADD TO A PILE I KNOW I CERTAINLY WOULD,

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IF IT WAS AT MY RESIDENCE, I'M GOING TO CUT DOWN ADDITIONAL STUFF AND KEEP DOING IT AND ADDING TO THE PILE SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU STOP THAT.

I HEARD EQUITABLE, IT'S THE FOUR LETTER F WORD THAT I'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT IS FAIR AND UNFORTUNATELY, SYSTEMS LIKE THIS, THEY'RE NOT FAIR.

ON THERE YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY SO WE DO OUR BEST ATTEMPT I THINK WE FOCUS ON WHAT FELL TO THE GROUND.

WE HIT 20% OF THE CITY WE GO THROUGH THE REMAINING AREA AND WE GET IT OUT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECESSARILY ANYTHING ABOUT A CERTAIN DATE THAT WE GET IT DONE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, AND THEN WE GO BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL.

I LIKE HAVING THE UPDATES AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, THOUGH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEET UNTIL THE END OF JULY, HOPEFULLY BY THEN, WE'RE CLOSE TO BEING DONE.

>> COUNCILMAN LINDSAY TO THAT POINT, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WANTED THE AUTHORIZATION AS HIGH AS WE WANTED FOR THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND CERTAINLY I CAN SHARE UPDATES WITH YOU ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.

BUT WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS ASK FOR AN AMOUNT AND HAVE TO COME BACK.

I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS ALL DURING THE MONTH OF JULY AND GET A HANDLE ON IT AND THEN BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SAY, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE, WHERE DO WE WANT TO PROCEED FROM HERE?

>> REAL QUICK, I DID WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION ON WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT PICKING UP AN AREA AND PEOPLE PUTTING STUFF BACK OUT IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IF I'VE HEARD MR. LINDSAY CORRECTLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUE WITH YOU'RE NOT PICKED UP YET AND ADDING TO IT THE ISSUE WAS, YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN PICKED UP IN YOUR [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK IT'S TWOFOLD THERE ARE PARTS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PICKED UP YET I DON'T WANT TO SUGARCOAT THIS AT ALL.

THERE ARE PARTS OF THE CITY, LIKE I SAID, WITH THAT MUCH TONNAGE, WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO YET.

BUT I THINK IT'S A POLICY DECISION TO SAY, DO WE MARK OFF ALL THOSE STREETS ON THE MAP, AND ONCE WE'VE PICKED THEM UP, ARE WE GOING TO GO BACK AROUND AGAIN? I GUESS THAT'S THE THING I THINK WE NEED REALLY SOME GOOD CLARIFICATION ON SO WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE TO STOP.

>> THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. MS. HOWARD,

>> THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IS THAT I THINK WE NEED A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT ONCE YOUR STUFF HAS BEEN PICKED UP, YOU DON'T GET IT PICKED UP AGAIN TILL WE GO BACK TO REGULAR SERVICE.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GOT PICKED UP RELATIVELY EARLY AND THEN WE ALSO WERE ON THE SCHEDULE FOR REGULAR BULK PICKUP AND THERE IS MORE DEBRIS AND MATTRESSES AND TOILETS AND WASHERS AND THERE'S STUFF ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK BULK TRASH IS HAPPENING, BUT IT ISN'T.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ALL SUMMER LONG BUT OUR STORM DEBRIS GOT PICKED UP ONCE ALREADY SO PICKING UP ALL THAT STUFF IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ISN'T FAIR TO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HASN'T HAD ANYTHING PICKED UP, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT JUNK SITTING EVERYWHERE UNTIL THE 1ST SEPTEMBER BECAUSE WE'RE PICKING UP BRUSH FROM A STORM THAT HAPPENED IN JUNE SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION TO THAT IS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A MAP AND AN ADDRESS MARK OFF OR HOW THAT WORKS, BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING TO KEEP US FROM BEING IN A LITTLE BIT OF A PERPETUAL PROBLEM.

THE SECOND THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT JUST THE $300,000 IS A HORRIFIC AMOUNT OF MONEY.

I WILL SAY MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN AN AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CITY.

THEY'RE NOT IN A CITY AND THEY HAD A HUGE STORM, HAD A THIRD OF THE CANOPY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD LANDED ON THE STREET IN AN ICE STORM AND THE MUD THAT THEY LIVE IN SAID, TOO BAD FOR YOU, DEAL WITH IT AND IT COST EVERY HOME OWNER ABOUT 5-$700 TO DEAL WITH THE DEBRIS THAT WAS ON THE GROUND.

IF YOU DO THE MATH ON THE 300 AND ABOUT 8,000 HOUSEHOLDS, THAT'S ABOUT $40 A HOUSEHOLD THAT'S A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN HIRING SOMEBODY YOURSELF TO COME DO THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT BURDEN ON FOLKS, BUT EVERYBODY GETS ALL THEIR TREES PICKED UP ONCE AND ONCE IT'S ALL PICKED UP, THEN WE'LL JUST DEAL WITH WHAT'S LEFT AS REGULAR BULK TRASH, OR HOWEVER WE NEED TO DO IT.

>> WELL, ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO THAT, COUNCILWOMAN IS WE COULD I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T REALLY NONE OF YOU HAVE BROUGHT BACK UP AGAIN WE COULD KEEP THE ROLL-OFFS.

I MEAN, AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN THEM.

WHAT WE'RE FINDING, THOUGH IS, WE'RE FINDING CONTRACTORS DUMPING IN THEM, WE'RE FINDING PEOPLE DUMPING IN THEM THAT PROBABLY DON'T LIVE HERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WHEN YOU LEAVE THESE OPEN DUMPSTERS THAT YOU'RE JUST ALLOWING THEM TO JUST FILL UP, AND YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY POLICING THEM.

>> WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THE FOLKS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THE ROLL OFF DROP OFFS HAVE ALREADY DONE IT? THAT THE SEFTON TOWN IS STILL THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A TRUCK TO HAUL IT TO THE STATION OR.

>> IT COULD BE, OR THEY HAVE CAPABILITIES, AND SO THE CAN TAKE IT THERE [OVERLAPPING]

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>> ALREADY HAPPENED I DON'T [OVERLAPPING].

>> OR THEY HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO IT YET.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

>> THERE'S STILL SO MUCH MORE, ESPECIALLY WITH I THINK WHAT WE'RE FINDING TOO IS YOU GET THAT FIRST ROUND OF THE STUFF THAT'S OBVIOUSLY DOWN AND THEN MAYBE YOU HAVE, WE'RE FINDING FROM FOLKS, THEY HAD, A TREE SERVICE COME OUT AND SAY, IT'S STANDING TODAY, BUT THAT THING'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT DOWN AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF DELAY OF MORE THINGS.

>> I WILL SAY WE HAD I DON'T KNOW, A DOZEN PEOPLE KNOCK ON THE DOOR TO COME DEAL WITH A DOWN TREE BECAUSE IT WAS OBVIOUSLY IN THE FRONT YARD AND IT [LAUGHTER] WAS EASY TO SEE I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THE SEVENTH PERSON THAT AGREED TO DO IT AND HAUL THE BRANCHES OFF.

WE JUST TOLD THEM NO UNTIL THEY WERE WILLING TO TAKE IT THEMSELVES, AND NOT LEAVE IT ON THE CURB WE JUST WAITED FOR THE NEXT GUY TO COME KNOCK ON THE DOOR.

YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO GO WITH THE FIRST GUY THAT KNOCKS, BUT THAT GOT IT OFF THE CURB QUICK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PUT IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS.

ONE IS, I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD PICK UP A SECOND ROUND ON ANYONE'S HOUSE BEFORE ANY AREAS THAT HAVE NOT GOTTEN PICK UP AT ALL.

I DON'T AGREE THAT WE SHOULD NOT GO BACK AND PICK UP STUFF AS THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT SPOKE BEFORE ME, SAID, IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY WE TOLD THEM WE WERE GOING TO DO IT SO IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT STUFF OUT, THE STORM WAS ON TUESDAY.

THEY PICKED UP HALF OF MY STREET STARTING ON THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY.

WE DIDN'T GET POWER BACK UNTIL FRIDAY AFTERNOON SO A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE WEREN'T EVEN HOME.

THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT STUFF OUT BEFORE WE CAME AND GOT IT SO SAYING THAT WE PICKED UP 20% AND WE'VE ALREADY PICKED UP THAT STREET DOESN'T MEAN WE PICKED UP THEIR DEBRIS DOESN'T.

SECONDLY, IF YOU THINK IN MY EXPERIENCE, I'M NOT GETTING SOMEONE OUT FOR 3-$700 TO CUT DOWN MY TREE AND HAUL IT AWAY, THERE'S NO WAY.

I'M GOING TO USE MISS DENISE HERE AS AN EXAMPLE.

DO YOU EXPECT HER TO GO OUT AND CLIMB IN HER TREE AND CUT DOWN BRANCHES WITHOUT HIRING A CONTRACTOR? I'M NOT DOING IT.

I'M JUST GOING TO GUESS BY HER STATEMENTS THAT SHE'S NOT GOING TO DO IT SO YOU'RE GOING TO CHALLENGE HOMEOWNERS TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR, AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY DOUBLE TO HAVE IT HAULED AWAY.

IF YOU'RE SAYING IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, HOW ARE YOU SAYING IF YOU HIRE A CONTRACTOR, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY? YOU'RE PAYING FOR THAT. THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE CUT UP SERVICE.

THE HAULING SERVICE IS JUST AS MUCH AS THE CUTTING UP SERVICE SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M COMFORTABLE SPENDING $300,000 TO JUST KEEP GOING AROUND AND PICKING THAT UP I DON'T SUGGEST THAT.

I'M KIND OF LIKE MS. BUHLER, LET'S GO AROUND ONE TIME, AND I DON'T CARE IF THAT TAKES US FOR TWO WEEKS OR TWO MONTHS LET'S GO AROUND ONE TIME AND BE DONE.

IF WE WANT TO HIT SOME OF THESE HARDER AREAS AGAIN, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

I'M OKAY TELLING MY NEIGHBORS, HEY, THE CITY'S PICKED UP OUR STORM DEBRIS ONCE, AND THAT'S ALL THEY'RE GOING TO DO BUT I NEED AN ANSWER.

WHETHER THAT'S A DECISION STAFF MAKES, CWD MAKES, THE COUNCIL MAKES, I NEED TO ANSWER TONIGHT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE KEEP CALLING ME EVERY DAY.

WHEN ARE THEY COMING BACK AROUND? I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S AREAS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PICKED UP YET.

I PROPOSE THAT WE MAKE A SECOND ROUND TO SOME OF THESE HARDER HIT AREAS, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

I KNOW MR. PRESTENBERG, OVER THERE, HIS TREES ARE ABOUT AS TALL AS HE IS, SO I CAN IMAGINE THAT HIS TREES IN HIS YARD DIDN'T HAVE MUCH DAMAGE, MINOR, PROBABLY FOUR STORIES, IF NOT MORE.

I DON'T HAVE A TAPE MEASURE OUT THERE BUT, WE HAD QUITE A BIT, MY 80-YEAR-OLD NEIGHBOR BEHIND ME IS NOT GOING TO CLIMB UP IN HIS TREE AND CUT BRANCHES DOWN THAT ARE BROKEN SO I WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY.

IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY AND TELL EVERYBODY THAT IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, LET'S DO IT RIGHT, LET'S NOT DO IT HALFWAY.

>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION WHEN YOU SAY HALFWAY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TREE CUTTING OR?

>> TURN ME BACK ON, I'LL ADDRESS THAT.

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> AS MY POINT WAS MADE A MINUTE AGO, SO THAT FIRST WEEK, WE STARTED ROLLING OUT TRUCKS ON THAT SATURDAY AND STARTED PICKING UP DEBRIS.

PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, BEEN HOME, HAD THE ABILITY, HAD THE CONTRACTOR, WHATEVER COME OUT DURING THAT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS AS IT IS NOW TO DO THAT SO SAYING THAT WE PICKED UP 20% OF THE CITY IS NOT ACCURATE WHEN SOME OF THOSE AREAS DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT YET.

I KNOW ON A MAP, WE PICKED UP 20% THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE PICKED UP 20% OF THE AREA, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE AT [OVERLAPPING]

>> FROM A VOLUME VERSUS GEOGRAPHICAL STANDPOINT.

>> NO. YOU'RE SAYING WE'VE PICKED UP GEOGRAPHICALLY 20% OF THE CITY.

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>> WELL, THAT'S MY POINT BUT YOU'RE MAKING [OVERLAPPING]

>> HOLD ON. LET ME FINISH MY POINT.

MY POINT IS 20% OF THE CITY MIGHT HAVE BEEN PICKED UP ON A MAP, BUT OUT OF THAT 20%, NOT ALL HOMEOWNERS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT STUFF OUT.

>> I GET IT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

>> MR. PRESTENBERG.

>> ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS ALREADY ANSWERED, I BELIEVE, THE ROLL AWAY IS MONITORED.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE NOT AT ALL, IS THAT FAIR?

>> THEY ARE NOT.

>> DO WE HAVE A COST PER ROLL AWAY VERSUS A COST PER ROLLING TRUCK FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF JASON HAS THAT OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD, BUT WE CAN.

GO AND SEE WHAT HE CAN GET FOR YOU.

>> YOU WANT TO GIVE IT A SHOT, JASON?

>> MAYOR, COUNSEL. I WAS THE QUESTION THE COST PER ROLL OFF? ROLL OFF.

>> [OVERLAPPING] NAME.

>> JASON RAMER VICE PRESIDENT COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL.

>> THE COST PER ROLL AWAY VERSUS THE COST FOR SENDING A TRUCK OFF? YES.

>> THE COST PER CALL ROLL OFF, ALL IS ABOUT $470.

EACH TIME IT GETS EMPTIED AND REPLACED.

THEN THE STORM CLEANUP ON THE STREETS IS $215 PER HOUR.

I'M ROUNDING UP A LITTLE $45 A TON.

>> TO FILL UP A TRUCK COULD TAKE 30 MINUTES DEPENDING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR IT COULD TAKE, AN HOUR?

>> WE'RE AVERAGING JUST UNDER, TWO TONS AN HOUR.

JUST BETTER THAN WE ANTICIPATED EVEN LOOKING AT THIS THING.

>> YOU'RE LOOKING AT $300 VERSUS 470.

ALTHOUGH THAT 470 COULD SIT THERE FOR A WEEK OR TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS.

HOW OFTEN ARE WE EMPTY IN SOME OF THESE?

>> OUR GOAL IS THREE TIMES A WEEK.

>> THREE TIMES A WEEK.

>> WE'VE BEEN BATTLING, THEY'RE OVERLOADED WHEN WE ARRIVE, AND WE HAVE TO SEND A CLAW TRUCK TO PUSH IT DOWN, SO WE PULL IT OFF.

>> GOT IT. MY COMMENT ON THAT IS, I KNOW WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT CONTRACTORS OR WHATEVER UTILIZING THE ROLL OFF.

IT'S A SMALL PRICE, TO ENSURE THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE FEASIBILITY, IF THAT'S A WORD TO GO TAKE SOMETHING THERE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO GO TO WHATEVER THAT TIME FRAME IS, I'D LIKE TO THROW OUT AS MANY OPTIONS AS WE POSSIBLY HAVE SO THAT EVERY OPPORTUNITY.

I KNOW THEY CAN'T CARRY A 500 POUND LOG.

[LAUGHTER] BUT THEY CAN AT LEAST CARRY BRANCHES OR SOMETHING, MAKE SEVERAL TRIPS.

THIS IS A ONE OFF THING.

I KNOW AS COUNCILMAN MILLSAP SAID, IT'S WEATHER RELATED, AND IT COULD HAPPEN MORE. I GET IT.

BUT, THERE HAS TO BE A STAKE IN THE SAND THAT WE DRIVE TO.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE TO AT LEAST KNOW THAT THERE'S A STAKE IN THE SAND THAT WE HAVE TO SHOW THE CITY THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS, AND THEN LIFE WILL BE NORMAL.

I CAN'T IMAGINE TAKING MORE THAN THE END OF THE SUMMER, WHICH END OF AUGUST, BUT I'M ALSO NOT OUT THERE PICKING ALL THIS STUFF UP, HOUSE TO HOUSE.

TO CLARIFY MY TREES ARE NOT AS TALL AS ME.

THEY'RE SHORTER, TALL AS MAYOR PRO TEM, FRANK.

BUT NO, I FEEL FOR EVERYONE THAT'S OUT THERE, AND THIS SUCKS, SO THANK YOU.

>> I WONDER ABOUT THAT. I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO CLARIFY THAT, SOMETHING. MR. MILLSAP.

>> I HAVE A TRUCK, I HAVE A CHAINSAW.

I HAVE THE SKILLS, AND I HAVE ACTUALLY HAULED SIX LOADS OF MY OWN STUFF OFF TO THE DUMPSTER DOWN AT THE PARK.

BUT NOT EVERYBODY HAS THAT ABILITY TO STREET BEHIND ME, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED PUTTING THEIR STUFF UP, THEY HAD FROM THE CURB TO THE SIDEWALK PILED AS HIGH AS IT COULD GET WITHOUT EITHER ROLLING OUT IN THE STREET OR ROLLING OVER THE SIDEWALK, WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IN TROUBLE FOR DOING THAT.

THAT'S NOT ALL THEY HAVE.

SAYING WE PICKED IT UP ONCE IS NOT NEAR ENOUGH TO ME WHAT THE FIRST TIME DAMAGE IS.

AS AN EXAMPLE, I HAVE STILL LAND DEAD LIMBS UP IN A 40 FOOT PECAN TREE THAT AT 84-YEARS-OLD, I JUST HAVEN'T CLIMBED THE LADDER YET TO GO UP THERE, BUT THEY STILL HAVE DAMAGE.

I THINK MS. BUHLER HAD A GOOD IDEA.

I JUST DO THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, NOT UNTIL WE GET 20% OF IT PICKED UP UNTIL WE GET ABOUT 80% OF IT PICKED UP.

THEN LET'S LOOK AT A TIME LIMIT.

THE $300,000 IS NOT MANDATORY THAT WE SPEND THAT MUCH.

>> NO, SIR, TO.

>> THIS IS JUST A GUIDELINE? WE DON'T WANT TO GO MORE THAN THAT.

AGAIN, WHAT DID THE ICE STORM COST US? IT'S NOT THE RESIDENT'S FAULT THAT THE WIND BLEW.

IT'S NOT OUR FAULT THAT THE WIND BLEW, BUT IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY SINCE WE MADE A COMMITMENT.

YOU PUT IT OUT, WE WILL PICK IT UP.

THAT'S ALREADY SAID.

WE CAN'T BACK THAT UP.

I THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS ON REGULAR BASIS UNTIL WE GET ABOUT 80% OF IT AND THEN LOOK AT A TIMELINE AND GO FROM THERE.

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>> MAYOR PRESTENBERG.

>> I'M STEALING THIS FROM CHRISTMAS.

WHENEVER WE HAVE THE CHRISTMAS TREE DROP OFF, PICK UP, WHAT HAVE YOU, WE SAY THAT'S GOING TO BE CHIPPED AND MADE INTO MULCH.

DO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO DO THAT NOW? ONE. I KNOW WE WOULD HAVE TO MAN THAT, IF YOU WOULD.

I'M SURE THERE'S DIAMETERS, BUT THAT WOULD ALSO BE A WAY TO MONITOR AND MANAGE WHAT GETS DUMPED IN THOSE ROLL OFFS.

IF WE'RE MULCHING 50% OF IT WITH A CHIPPER.

ONE, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S MUCH LESS ROOM IN THE ROLL OFFS OR MUCH MORE ROOM IN THE ROLL OFFS BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING ALL THE DEAD SPACE OUT OF IT, EVEN IF YOU SMASH IT WITH A CLAW TRUCK.

TWO, YOU MANAGE WHAT THE COUCH AND THE WASHING MACHINE AND ALL THE CRAP THAT DOESN'T STORM DEBRIS GETS DUMPED IN THERE. IS THAT AN OPTION? HAS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE? I KNOW I'M ASKING MULTIPLE QUESTIONS.

WHENEVER OUR CHRISTMAS TREES ARE TURNED INTO MULCH.

IS THAT DONE AT THE PLACE? LET'S SAY, SALMON PARK, THAT'S WHERE WE TRADITIONALLY DO IT.

WHEN THEY'RE DUMPED THERE, DOES SOMEONE COME OUT THERE WITH A SHREDDER OR CHIPPER AND DO IT THERE OR ARE THEY HAULED OFF AND DONE SOMEWHERE ELSE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

>> THEY'RE HOLD OFF AND IT'S DONE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IT'S NOT DONE ON SITE.

WE DON'T HAVE THOSE EQUIPMENT.

THAT'D BE SOMETHING SEPARATE AND APART.

WE'D HAVE TO CONSIDER GETTING, AND CERTAINLY WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT, JASON.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A WEIGH IN.

>> I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS ON IT.

I'VE HEARD OF IT BEING DONE BEFORE.

WHAT I'VE HEARD IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

YES, YOU SAVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF SPACE ON A TRUCK AND AN OPEN TOP DUMPSTER WHEN THE MATERIAL IS MULCHED.

I BELIEVE AND I'D HAVE TO GET MORE DETAILS ON IT, THE CITY OF ALLEN HAS DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE PAST.

THEY RENTED SOMETHING CALLED A DRUM CHIPPER.

[BACKGROUND] THERE WE GO.

BIG INDUSTRIAL PIECE CHIPPING EQUIPMENT, AND IT ITSELF COSTS 50-100 GRAND TO DO.

AGAIN, I'D HAVE TO GET DETAILS ON THAT.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF OUR CITIES ARE DOING ANY CHIPPING THEMSELVES TODAY THAT I'M AWARE OF.

>> I KNOW SOME HAVE HIRED COMPANIES.

>> OUT OF MY SPACE.

>> MR. MILLSAP.

>> TO GO ALONG WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOU MIGHT CONTACT A COMPANY CALLED LIVING EARTH TECHNOLOGIES.

THEY'RE THE BIGGEST MULCH COMPANY IN STATE OF TEXAS, ACTUALLY.

NOW, IT WAS OWNED BY GUNZKA, WHO OWNED THE TAMPA BAY FOOTBALL TEAM FOR A WHILE.

>> THEY'RE DOWN THE STREET FROM OUR YARD.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THEY DO A LOT OF STREET LIVING EARTH.

>> YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM. THEY DO THAT.

BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THOSE CHIPPERS CAN ONLY CHIP UP TO CERTAIN SIZE LOGS, AND IF THESE TREES FALL OVER, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH A LOG THEN? CHIPPING IS GOOD IN CONCEPT.

IT JUST DOESN'T REALLY WORK.

GARLAND USED TO DO THAT.

YOU COULD COME AND GET ALL THE CHIPS YOU WANTED.

THEY COULDN'T GET RID OF THEM AS FAST AS THEY WERE GENERATING, SO THEY QUIT DOING IT.

THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING THAT'S COST PROHIBITIVE.

AS FAR AS BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A WHILE AGO, HOW A COMMERCIAL COMPANY TO COME IN AND TRIM YOUR TREES.

WELL THE CONTRACT IS, LIKE I SAID, OR YOU GOT TO HAUL IT OFF.

WELL, THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COST CHARGE YOU FOR THAT.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S A GOOD TWO, 2.5, ALMOST THREE HOURS WAIT ONCE YOU GET IN THE GATE AT THE DUMP JUST TO GET UP TO THE DUMP TO EMPTY YOUR TRUCK.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROHIBITED FROM THAT.

IT WOULD BE COST EFFECTIVE TO US AS A CITY, AND FOR THE RESIDENTS FOR LET THOSE PEOPLE JUST USE THE ROLLBACKS TO HAUL IT DOWN THERE AND DUMP IT IN, AND IT WOULD BE STILL CHEAPER FOR US AS A CITY THAN IT IS FOR THE OVERALL COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MILLSAP. DO WE HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK, MARTY HILL BOT.

>> MARTY HILL BOT, 5511, OAKRIDGE CIRCLE, SACHSE, TEXAS, TOP OF THE HILL.

I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT STORM HAPPENED ON MARCH 28TH, BUT HOPEFULLY, IT WASN'T 60 DAYS FOR ALL TO GET ORGANIZED.

I'M THE PERFECT SACHSE CITIZEN.

MY TREES FELL DOWN.

I BUCKED ALL THE BRANCHES OFF FROM THE BIG LIMBS.

I SEPARATED MY BIG LIMBS FROM MY SMALL LIMBS.

I HAULED MY BIG LIMBS TO THE PARK.

BUT I STILL GOT A TREE I GOT TO CUT DOWN.

PLUS, I LOST MY BULK GARBAGE DAY.

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THAT MEANS I'M GOING TO HAVE MORE THAN SIX CUBIC FEET OUT WHEN IT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE MONTH AGAIN, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BRANCHES BECAUSE I'M REMODELING.

YOU'LL NEED DECIDE WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

[OVERLAPPING] WHETHER OR NOT YOU JUST SAY MAY OR PLEASE BE QUIET.

[BACKGROUND] IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SIT THERE AND SAY, MAY 31ST, [INAUDIBLE] THAT.

IF YOU GOT TO TELL PEOPLE TO SEPARATE THEIR GARBAGE, TELL THEM TO SEPARATE.

BUT IF YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN SACHSE ROAD, THERE WERE PILES OF TREES 15 FEET TALL THAT HAD BEEN PICKED UP TWICE.

FOR YOU ALL TO SIT HERE AND SAY, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO IT ONCE.

YOU ALREADY MISSED THAT BOARD, BECAUSE IF YOU WERE ABLE TO FIELD IT UP TALL AND GET IT OUT THERE QUICK, YOU GOT TO PICK UP, AND THAT IS A CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL, BUT YOU CAN'T CUT IT OFF NOW.

YOU NEED TO SET A DATE.

SO PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THAT TREE NEEDS TO COME DOWN.

WHEN IS IT GOING TO START.

BUT EVERYBODY GETS A SWEPT.

THEY GET A CHANCE TO COME THROUGH.

YOU SHOW [INAUDIBLE] IN JULY.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? IF YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF JULY TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, THEN YOU'RE TALKING SEPTEMBER JUST FIGURE IT OUT.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE, AND NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.

YOU'LL NEED TO STEP UP TO THE PLANE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NO.

>> NO OUTBURST FROM THE AUDIENCE.

I SAID THAT TWICE ALREADY.

>> THREE TIMES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THREE TIMES. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM.

OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

>> MY QUESTION REALLY HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED.

ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE MAKING ROUNDS UNTIL IT'S ALL PICKED UP, OR ARE WE GOING ONE TIME, AS YOU SAID THAT 20% GOT PICKED UP OR NOT? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. I'M SAYING, LIKE I SAID, IF WE STOOD UP HERE AND SAID, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY, THEN WE NEED TO PICK IT ALL UP.

NOT IF YOU HAVE TIME WHEN WE'RE THERE.

>> I HOPE I CAN MAYBE PUT THIS TOGETHER.

MS. NASH HAS ASKED US TO AUTHORIZE HER UP TO $300,000 TO PICK UP THE REMAINING DEBRIS.

I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

WHAT I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON IS THAT MR. MILLSAP HAS MENTIONED IT.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S MENTIONED IT IS THAT HEY, LET'S PICK IT ALL UP.

I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THERE.

WAS IT YOU, MR. MILLSAP, HAVE TO TALK ABOUT COMING BACK AT 80%? YEAH. I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT.

MS. NASH, I'M SURE SHE'LL CORRECT ME.

IF THE COUNSEL DOES AUTHORIZE HER TO SPEND UP TO $300,000, THEN THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, AND I'LL GET CLARIFICATION FROM MS. NASH CAN BE DONE.

I'LL PUT TO YOU THIS WAY, MS. NASH.

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE HEARD REQUEST WISE THAT CAN'T BE DONE? THAT MIGHT BE A FAIR WAY TO ANSWER. THERE YOU GO.

>> THE UP TO $300,000 THAT I'M REQUESTING HAS TO DO WITH BEING ABLE TO GO AROUND AND DEAL WITH THE OTHER 80% OF THE CITY ONE TIME.

IT IS NOT TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP LIMBS IN PERPETUITY.

OTHERWISE, THAT'S A COST THAT IS INSURMOUNTABLE IN TERMS OF WE WOULD NEVER STOP.

IF WE KEPT DOING THAT.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JASON RAMER ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON SAYING, HOW MUCH WOULD WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET US THROUGH ANOTHER GOOD SWEEP OF THE COMMUNITY TO GET TO 100%.

I SAID, I NEED ONE NUMBER, NOT TO HAVE TO COME BACK, AND THAT'S WHERE WE SETTLED ON THE $300,000, NOT TO EXCEED.

JASON, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THE PARTICULARS OF THAT.

>> YEAH.

>> BECAUSE I FORCED HIM INTO A NUMBER BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO YOU ALL AND SO WE COULD PROCEED DURING THE MONTH OF JULY BECAUSE THERE IS A COUNCIL RECESS AND BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WORKING WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK.

EVEN IF YOU ALL HAD MEETINGS IN JULY I WOULD STILL NEED TIME BETWEEN THAT TWO WEEK PERIOD.

WE WOULD GET QUITE A BIT DONE.

THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT HAVE TO STOP AND ASK AND STOP AND ASK AND WE CAN JUST KEEP MOMENTUM GOING.

[01:10:03]

>> PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ON FRIDAY IS THE PERSPECTIVE OF TODAY.

A LITTLE BIT UPDATED NUMBERS TO DATE.

THIS IS THROUGH THE WEEK.

WE'VE HAD SPENT 208 HOURS PICKED UP 310 TONS, JUST IN SACHSE JUST FOR STORM RELATED.

AN AVERAGE HISTORICAL JUNE COLLECTION, DOING THE YELLOW AND BLUE, ALL MONTH, REGULAR 6 YARDS, EVERYBODY, IS 203 HOURS, 234 TONS.

WE'VE ALREADY PICKED UP ABOUT 32% MORE TONNAGE USING THE SAME HOURS, AND WE'RE ONLY ABOUT 20% THROUGH THE CITY, WHICH IS REALLY MAYBE ABOUT 15 IF YOU COUNT THE HOMES THAT DIDN'T HAVE IT OUT ON TIME.

THAT'S JUST TO LAY THE SCENE ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT THERE AND WHY THIS STUFF TAKES TIME.

WHEN WE FIRST APPROACHED THE CITY RIGHT AFTER THE STORM OCCURRED WAS, IT'S BAD.

I CAN'T TELL YOU NECESSARILY HOW BAD.

I EVEN THREW OUT A NUMBER THAT MAKES THIS NUMBER LOOK TODAY SEEM RIDICULOUS.

WE CAN DO IT FOR 50 GRAND.

WE'RE AT 50 GRAND, AND WE'VE ONLY DONE THIS MUCH OF THE CITY.

WE ARE LEARNING A LITTLE AS WE GO.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT AND THE PURPOSE OF OUR CONVERSATION FRIDAY IS, WHAT IS THE ABSOLUTE HIGHEST? IT IS A RIDICULOUS NUMBER.

I'D NEVER THOUGHT IN MY CAREER, I WOULD SEE THIS AT ONE CITY STORM CLEANUP, AND WE'RE DOING SIX OF THESE RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER MORE IMPACTED AREAS ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH, BUT THE GOAL WAS TO GIVE A NUMBER THAT IS VERY CONSERVATIVE, AND INCLUDES AN ENTIRE SWEEP OF THE CITY GETTING EVERYTHING OFF THE CURB.

OUR DRIVERS ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE WASHING MACHINE UNDER THE BRUSH PILE AND LEAVING IT, THEY'RE GETTING IT ALL.

WE JUST DON'T OPERATE THAT WAY.

THESE ARE TRASH DRIVERS THAT ARE TOLD TO GO AND THEY GO.

BUT THAT 300,000 DOES, AS I STAND HERE TODAY, IT INCLUDES THAT SWEEP, AND IT'S CONSERVATIVE.

WE'RE REPORTING THESE NUMBERS TO THE CITY EVERY DAY, OUR PROGRESS, OUR HOURS, OR TONS, THE BOTTOM NUMBER THAT THE BILL HAS GONE UP TO, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

THAT'S TO PUT THE CITY IN CONTROL OF THE BUDGET.

WE FEEL WE CAN DO THAT SWEEP WITHIN THIS NUMBER, AND THERE IS STILL GOING TO BE A REMAINDER AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION.

BECAUSE IT IS ON THE CITY'S BILL, IF YOU WILL.

IF WE NEED TO GO BACK TO OTHER AREAS WE CAN, AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL STILL BE UNDER THAT 300,000 NUMBER, THE RIDICULOUS NUMBER.

BUT I CAN'T SAY WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY, I CAN SWEEP THE CITY, THEN GO HIT ALL THE HARD HIT AREAS AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE HARD HIT AREAS WILL LOOK LIKE, AGAIN AFTER WE'VE SWEEP UP.

WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED ALL THE TREES, ONLY GOT WHAT WE COULD THAT FELL TO THE GROUND OUT NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HASN'T FALLEN DOWN YET.

THAT'S THAT PERPETUITY, AND IT'S HARD TO GAUGE THAT.

BUT I DO FEEL CONFIDENT IN THIS NUMBER WE'LL LEAVE 95% OF THOSE UP HERE AND IN THE COMMUNITY EXUBERANT HAPPY.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE ONE OFFS, AND WE MAY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE AS WE GO.

I HOPE THAT GIVES SOME CLARITY, BUT I AM CONFIDENT THAT NUMBER INCLUDES A SWEEP, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TOUCH SOME AREAS, BECAUSE WE'VE CLEARED SOME THAT ALREADY HAVE JUST AS MUCH OUT.

WE'RE LEARNING A LOT AS WE GO TO.

>> BUT IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, EVEN THAT WOULD BE YOU THINK UNDER THE 300,000.

>> TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

>> YOU CAN'T GIVE A DEFINITE ANSWER.

>> CORRECT.

>> HOLD ON. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

I KNOW IF IT'S FOR HIM OR STAFF.

>> FIRST, LET ME SAY, I TALKED TO TWO OF THE DRIVERS. AWESOME JOB.

THEY WERE PRETTY GOOD SPIRITS.

I'M LIKE, YEAH, MAN, IT'S JUST ANOTHER DAY AT WORK.

NO BIG DEAL. GREAT JOB.

GREAT PEOPLE TO TALK TO. I APPRECIATE IT. SIT DOWN AND RELAX.

MAYOR, YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF MINOR STANDARD ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS.

BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS UP TWO $300,000 IS ONE TIME AROUND THE CITY, AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

>> WELL, WHAT JASON JUST SAID IS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> HOLD ON. THAT'S HOW IT WAS PRESENTED, THOUGH. CORRECT?

>> YES, BUT I APOLOGIZE, MAYOR PRO TEM. THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> I WISH THAT I COULD WHIP OUT A CRYSTAL BALL AND TELL YOU HOW THIS IS GOING TO TURN OUT, AND I CAN'T.

JASON WAS IN A CITY THAT I WAS IN PREVIOUS TO HERE THAT WAS HIT MUCH HARDER THAN THIS AND DIDN'T HIT THE $300,000 NUMBER.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS UNDER PROMISE AND OVER DELIVER.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS NUMBER TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND SWEEP AND GET THIS DONE WITH NO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS IN JULY AND BE ABLE TO JUST GET GOING AND GET MOVING AND TRY TO GET THIS STUFF PICKED UP AS SOON AS WE CAN.

>> THIS HAS TAKEN ABOUT TEN TIMES LONGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD.

THIS DISCUSSION HAS. BUT MY QUESTION IS STILL VERY AMBIGUOUS OR THE ANSWER IS VERY AMBIGUOUS TO ME.

ONCE AGAIN, I'LL ASK DIRECTLY ON THIS, ARE WE GOING TO MAKE OTHER ROUNDS TO AREAS THAT WERE PICKED UP INITIALLY THAT MAY NOT HAVE HAD TIME? OR ARE WE JUST MAKING THE COMPLETED ONE RUN CITY.

I KNOW THAT WE MAY HAVE TO HIT OTHER AREAS AFTERWARDS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS SAYS,

[01:15:01]

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A CLEAR ANSWER.

>> WE'RE GOING TO GO AROUND TO EVERY PLACE THAT HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED TO DATE.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AN ASSESSMENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO SEE IF WE CAN HIT SOME OF THESE AREAS AGAIN THAT GOT HARD HIT.

BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A LEAF HIT THE GROUND AND OTHERS THAT WERE JUST HIT SO HARD, IT IS DIFFICULT TO TELL FROM THE STREET WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PULLING TO THE CURB.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO BACK AROUND AGAIN WITH THE FUNDS THAT YOU HAVE ALLOTTED, IF YOU APPROVE THIS ITEM THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND HIT THOSE AGAIN, AND AGAIN, TRY TO EXCEED EXPECTATIONS AND GET THIS STUFF CLEANED UP.

>> I KNOW I'M BEING DIFFICULT, BUT I'M BEING DIFFICULT ON PURPOSE? BECAUSE WHAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TELL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING ME IS THAT NO.

THEY ARE NOT RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO COME BACK AROUND.

BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE 80% OF THE CITY THAT WE HAVEN'T PICKED UP CURRENTLY OR AS OF YET.

HOWEVER, IF THERE'S TIME, IF WE SET A DATE, IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER THAT WE HAVEN'T SPENT, WE MIGHT.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I HAVE TO TELL THEM, NO.

THEY NEED TO START MAKING ARRANGEMENTS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BASED ON THIS.

IS THAT FAIR?

>> THAT'S FAIR. WE CAN KEEP THE ROLL OFFS OUT FOR FOLKS IF THEY HAVE THE MEANS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO A COUPLE OF CHURCHES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING FOLKS, LIKE MS.JANICE, THAT SPOKE EARLIER, WE HAVE CHURCHES THAT WANT TO HELP PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES THAT CAN HAUL THAT STUFF AND BRING IT INTO THE DUMPSTERS.

WE HAVE SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR FOLKS THAT NEED HELP.

WE CAN CERTAINLY INSTITUTE THAT AS WELL.

>> WELL, I DEFINITELY LIKE THE OPTION IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AROUND TO YOUR HOUSE IF YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN PICKED UP ON.

I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE ONE BRANCH OR 20 TREES OUT THERE.

THEN WE NEED TO OFFER AN OPTION FOR THEM.

THE ROLE ARE THE BEST OPTION, IN MY OPINION, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE'RE GOING TO ENTERTAIN.

NOBODY ELSE WANTED TO ENTERTAIN EITHER A CHIPPING SERVICE OR A CHIPPING OPTION, WHETHER IT BE PARK STAFF, WHETHER IT BE CWT, WHETHER IT BE A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR, I DON'T KNOW.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO SOME OF THESE HOUSES THAT HAVE DEBRIS THAT WON'T GUARANTEE TO GET PICKED UP, WE NEED TO OFFER THAT AS AN OPTION.

IF YOU HAVE AN SUV AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT ONE BRANCH AT A TIME, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A TRUCK OR WHATEVER, THEN THAT'S UP TO THEM AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET BACK AROUND.

I'LL BE DONE BEING DIFFICULT ON THIS ITEM.

>> MR. PRESTENBERG?

>> I DOUBT THAT. CAN WE JUST SAY WE WILL PICK UP 100% OF THE CITY BETWEEN NOW AND WHATEVER TIME FRAME WE WORK OUT WITH CWD? IT'S GOING TO TAKE US TO THE END OF AUGUST TO DO THAT.

JUST THAT WAY, WHEN YOU SEE BULK TRASH COME TO YOUR HOUSE, THAT IS YOUR TIME FROM HERE FOR THIS EVENT UNTIL WE GET BACK ON THE SCHEDULE, WHENEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

THAT WAY, MAYOR PROTON FRANK DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO HIS NEIGHBORS AND SAY, WE DON'T KNOW YET.

I KNOW YOU'RE WAITING BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER THE OTHER 80% GETS PICKED UP.

I GET THAT. CAN WE JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY, EVERYONE WILL AND APPROVE YOU UP TO 300,000 IN JULY BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T MEET THAT NUMBER UNTIL JULY.

THERE WILL BE SOME INCREMENTAL AMOUNT LEFT WHEN WE MEET JULY 29TH OR WHATEVER IT IS.

THEN WE TALK ABOUT THEN, AND BY THAT POINT, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE ESTIM IS GOING TO BE TO DO THE REMAINDER OF THE CITY.

>> THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE ABOUT DOING THAT IS THAT PEOPLE ARE USING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT OUT UNLIMITED BULK.

NOT JUST TREE LIMBS, BUT EVERYTHING.

THAT'S I THINK THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE FACING IS PEOPLE ARE JUST USING IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT EVERYTHING OUT MORE SO THAN WE ARE USED TO SEEING EVEN.

>> I GET. BUT IF TWD HAS A MAP OR WE HAVE A MAP, LIKE EVERY DAY YOU'LL GET A UPDATE, OR THE CITY STAFF GETS AN UPDATE SAYING, WE COVER THESE FOUR STREETS 100%, PUT THE RED HIGHLIGHT THROUGH IT AND BE DONE WITH IT.

IF THEY PUT ANYTHING ELSE OUT WITH THE NOW THEY'RE BEHOLDEN TO THE RESTRICTIONS OF HOW LONG THEY CAN HAVE MATERIAL OUT THERE AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

IF THEY GRIPE ABOUT IT, WILL THEY GRIPE ABOUT IT AND THEY GET TICKETED OR HOW IT GETS HANDLED.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE OUR FOLKS ARE CARE FOR IT AS A SPEAKER SAID EARLIER.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER BULK TO PUT OUT BECAUSE THEY ALREADY MISSED THE OTHER BULK STATE.

NOW AS CWD ALSO SAID, THEY'RE PICKING UP EVERYTHING.

IF IT TOLD IT'S HEADING UNDER EIGHTH BRANCHES, THEY'RE PICKING IT UP.

LET'S JUST COMMUNICATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO 100%.

IT'S STARTING ON JUNE, WHATEVER.

ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THAT, WE'RE DONE, AND THEN WE'RE BACK TO BAU.

THAT'S MY OPINION THAT WAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DIFFERENT CONSTITUENTS AND NEIGHBORS AND WHATNOT,

[01:20:02]

SAYING, SIR, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET TO YOU.

THAT'S MY OPINION. MR. LINDSAY.

>> YEAH. SINCE THIS STORM, I'VE BEEN KEEPING TABS ON OTHER CITIES, SEE WHAT THEIR RESPONSE IS, TO SEE IF SACHSE'S RESPONSE IS FAIR AND ADEQUATE, AND ALL THE OTHER CITIES THAT I'VE SEEN SPECIFICALLY ROWLETT, GARLAND, DALLAS, IT'S A ONE TIME OPPORTUNITY.

THEY COME BY, THEY PICK IT UP, THEY MOVE ON.

THEN WE GOT TO GET BACK TO NORMAL WITH THE BULK TRASH.

THE THING THAT MAYBE HAS MY CURIOSITY A LITTLE BIT IS WE FINISHED THE CITY, THE INITIAL SWEEP HIT THE REST OF THE 80%.

THEN WE SWITCHED BACK TO BULK TRASH.

BUT MAYBE THE BULK TRASH CAN BE RELAXED A LITTLE BIT WHENEVER IT COMES TO BULK TRASH.

WE'RE PAYING A FEE ANYWAY, PRESUMABLY TO CWD FOR MONTHLY BULK.

INSTEAD OF THE SPECIAL PICKUP JUST ON STORM DEBRIS, WHAT IF WE TOOK SOME OF THE REMAINING $300,000 AND THEN JUST SUPPLIED IT AS ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO COVER THE EXTRA BULK AS WE GET BACK TO NORMAL PICKUPS? IS THAT EVEN A POSSIBILITY?

>> IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.

I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, AS I'VE SAID, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO MONITOR IT.

JASON GETS THESE NUMBERS EVERY DAY.

THE NUMBERS WE PUT IN HERE WERE NUMBERS AS OF FRIDAY AFTERNOON, AND HE'S ALREADY HAD THE NEW NUMBERS FOR TODAY.

I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP MONITORING IT.

LIKE I SAID, I WISH THAT I COULD PREDICT THIS, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO GIVE AS MUCH PREDICTABILITY WITH EVERYTHING AS WE CAN.

THE STORM IS JUST NOT JUST WHEN WE THINK WE'VE CLEANED A STREET, THERE'S MORE AND WE JUST DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

>> MY BIGGEST FEAR IS, THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE A WAY TO CALL THIS DONE.

AS LONG AS YOU KEEP THIS PROGRAM OPEN, EVERY MONTH THAT GOES BY, PEOPLE WILL HAVE TREES THAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WERE FALLING, LET'S SAY IN THE NEXT MINOR WINDSTORM ON THERE.

THEY WERE ALREADY COMPROMISED DURING THIS STORM.

IT'S NEVER GOING TO GET DONE, UNLESS IF WE SET SOME PARAMETERS.

TO ME, WE MAKE THE ROUNDS TO THE REST OF THE CITY AND WE GET BACK TO BUSINESSES AS USUAL.

WE MAKE A CLEAR MESSAGE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER AVENUES THAT WE HAVE, THE CITY EMAIL BLAST AND WE SAY, LOOK, IF IT'S NOT ON THE CURB AND WE HADN'T GOT TO YOUR AREA YET, THEN THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT OUT ON THERE.

THEN FROM THERE, IF SOMEBODY'S MISSED AND THEN THEY CALL CWD, DID YOU HAVE IT ON THE CURB BEFORE THE STATE? THEY SAY, YES, WE TAKE THEIR WORK FOR IT.

WE GO BACK AND PICK IT UP ON THERE.

THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION AFTER WE HIT 100% OF THE CITY, JUST TO COVER ANY OF THE EDGE CASE SCENARIOS WITH WHATEVER MONEY WE HAPPEN TO HAVE REMAINING.

>> ACTUALLY, MAYORS WANT TO ASK, I WANT TO CLARIFY JASON.

YOU AND I DISCUSSED THIS LAST WEEK.

THOSE BRUSH TRUCKS HAVE THE THIRD EYE TECHNOLOGY.

WHEN YOU PICK IT UP, YOU HAVE A RECORDED CLEANING OF THAT LOCATION, AND THEN YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE GONE AND TAKEN CARE OF IT.

IF SOMEONE WAS TO CALL AND SAY, YOU DIDN'T PICK IT UP, WE CAN SAY, BUT WE PICKED UP ON THIS DATE, AND THAT WAS OUR PICK UP DATE.

>> YES. THE TRUCKS DO HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY.

THE DIFFICULT THING IS TYPICALLY IN A BULK MONTH, WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE RUNNING AN AREA PLUS MINUS WITHIN A DAY.

THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN WE'RE RUNNING, HIT THIS HARD AREA, AND THAT MAY TAKE FIVE DAYS WHERE IT NORMALLY TOOK ONE.

IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHEN.

THERE IS A CERTAIN TIME WINDOW WE CAN PULL VIDEO.

IT'S ABOUT 12 OR 15 BUSINESS DAYS THAT THE TRUCKS RUNNING.

IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD COVER THE MAJORITY OF CASES THAT WE CAN RESEARCH.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

I DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT.

WE USE THE THIRD EYE TECHNOLOGY SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE INSTANCES OF THEY'RE SAYING YOU DIDN'T COME BY MY STREET, AND WE'RE LIKE, BUT WE HAVE THE VIDEO.

WE DID COME BY AND PICK UP.

SOMETIMES THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND PUT MORE AS SOON AS WE'VE PICKED UP.

IT'S JUST FIGURING OUT THAT RIGHT TIMING OF WE'VE PICKED IT UP.

WE KNOW WE SWEPT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ON THAT DATE.

IS THERE THE TECHNOLOGY TO BACK THAT UP? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANKS, JASON.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ACTUALLY, MR. LINDSAY HAD A GOOD POINT I WAS GOING TO PIG IT BACK ON IS THAT I THINK THE WAY WELL, LET ME GO TO MAYOR PROTON FRANK FIRST.

MAYOR PROTON FRANK TALKED ABOUT THE INITIAL PRESENTATION OF THE ITEM, AND WE WERE ON DIFFERENT WAVELENGTHS, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.

I THINK THAT'S TRUE IN THE BEGINNING.

I THINK THE WAY THIS ITEM HAS EVOLVED, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY, IS THAT, YES, INITIALLY, LET'S DO THE 80% AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.

I THINK COUNCIL HAS HAD A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION TO SAY, WELL, THAT'S GREAT, AND AGAIN,

[01:25:01]

I'LL USE MAYOR PROTON AND FRANK EXAMPLES.

LIKE, HEY, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THERE IS THAT WE ALREADY WENT BY THAT HAVE SOME ISSUES WEREN'T HOME, WHAT HAVE YOU? AGAIN, I SEE THIS ITEM IF IT'S APPROVED TONIGHT BY COUNCIL, THE AUTHORIZATION OF NOT TO EXCEED 300,000, IS I THINK THAT ALL THAT CAN STILL BE ACCOMPLISHED.

I THINK THAT WE CAN DO THE INITIAL 80% SWEEP, IF YOU WILL.

THEN, AGAIN, I KNOW JASON IS NOT GUARANTEEING ANYTHING.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE BASED ON EXPERIENCE, WE'LL STILL HAVE FUNDS LEFT OVER.

DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT A SHOT.

IT GOES TO COUNCILMAN LINDSAY'S POINT IS THAT, WHAT, IF WE DO, THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND THEN, AT SOME POINT, HAVE A STOP DATE.

I JUST SEE THE ITEM AS BEING FLEXIBLE ENOUGH FOR MS. NASH AND HER STAFF TO ACCOMPLISH, REALLY, AT LEAST POTENTIALLY STRIVE TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THIS QUESTION EARLIER IS THAT I KNOW THAT THE INITIAL THOUGHT WAS, HEY, WE'LL DO THE 80% SWEEP, AND THEN WE'LL BE DONE.

BUT I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GREAT POINTS BROUGHT UP THAT, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT, BUT WE MAY, AND AGAIN, EMPHASIZE, MAY BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND GO AGAIN.

BECAUSE MY THING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AND $300,000 IS NOT ENOUGH, LET'S SAY, THEN GUESS WHAT WE WILL BE DONE.

WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER DECISION TO MAKE.

WILL IT BE SOMETHING ALONG MR. LINDSAY'S LINES OF, HEY WE'RE DONE AS A COUNCIL, OR YOU KNOW WHAT? TO MR. MILLSAP'S POINT, WE'RE GOING TO PICK IT UP UNTIL WE PICK IT UP.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE FLEXIBILITY OF THIS ITEM ALLOWS IS THAT I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE HOPES THAT YOU COME BACK TO US IN THE FUTURE AND SAY, WE'RE DONE, WE ACCOMPLISH WHAT EVERYBODY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.

IF WE CAN'T, THEN YOU'LL BE THE FIRST TO TELL US, HERE'S WHAT WE DID.

JASON HAS DONE A GOOD JOB, AND HE'LL TELL US EXACTLY WHAT WE DID AND WHAT WE COULD DO FOR THE MONEY.

WE AUTHORIZE IF THAT'S WHAT WE ULTIMATELY END UP DOING.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO RECONFIGURE AFTER THAT.

THE THING IS THIS STORM IS THE WORST STORM SACHSE HAS HAD IN 25 YEARS PLUS.

THAT'S HOW LONG I'VE BEEN HERE.

YOU CAN'T PLAN FOR A STORM LIKE THIS.

YOU MAY THINK YOU CAN, BUT YOU CAN'T.

AS JASON SAID, WHICH I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW, YOU HAVE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT MIGHT EVEN BE WORSE OFF THAN SACHSE.

NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THAT ISSUE, BUT JASON'S TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR COMPANY.

I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAVE CALLED YOU.

HE'S HAVING TO MANAGE THAT AS WELL.

AGAIN, I THINK THAT WITH MS. NASH AND HER STAFF, I THINK THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE ULTIMATELY WANT TO GET FOR EVERY POINT OF VIEW THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN TONIGHT.

BUT IF THEY CAN'T, BECAUSE THE MONEY JUST WAS CRAZY, AND WE JUST COULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE JASON SAID, HEY, WELL, WE GAVE IT OUR BEST SHOT, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE GOT LEFT, THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION THEN. MR. MILLSAP.

>> IF IT'S BEEN THREE WEEKS SINCE THIS HAPPENED, AND WE ONLY HAVE 20% OF THE PROPERTY PICKED UP, AND IT'S ONLY SIX WEEKS TILL THE END OF JULY.

THAT MEANS BY THE END OF JULY, WE'LL ONLY HAVE 60% OF IT PICKED UP.

>> NOT NECESSARILY.

>> WELL IF IT TAKES THREE WEEKS FOR 20%, AND I THINK WE CAN PICK IT UP FASTER THAN THAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO AUTHORIZE THE MONEY UP TO THE AMOUNT REQUESTED AND DO IT AS A ONGOING PROCESS, AND AT THE END OF JULY OR A MEETING IN JULY, THEN WE'LL DO AN UPDATE AND EVALUATE AND DETERMINE WHAT ACTION WE STILL NEED TO DO TO MAKE THE CITY LOOK PRESENTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN.

>> IF ANY.

>> IF ANY. WE MAY NEED MORE, WE MAY NOT NEED ANY.

WE MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE.

>> I'M WITH YOU THERE. MR. PRESTENBERG.

>> THANK YOU. LIMITED COMMENT HERE.

THING IS THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING TO 300K.

WE KNOW WE DON'T MEET FOR A MONTH.

WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY THERE.

LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH, IN MY OPINION, GIVING THE PERMISSION TO DO THAT TO SPEND THE MONEY.

BUT ALSO, ESTHER CAN PUT OUT IN HER FACEBOOK POST SO WE WILL GET TO EVERYONE AGAIN, ONE TIME, AND BE DONE WITH IT.

THAT WAY, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE LEVEL OF COMFORT THEY NEED, AND IF WE NEED TO AUTHORIZE MORE MONEY AT THE END OF JULY, WE DO SO.

>> MAYOR, CAN I JUST ADD TO THAT [OVERLAPPING] ON THE ROLL-OFFS THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP THOSE OUT.

I WILL SAY THAT THE ONE AT HERITAGE PARK, BECAUSE OF THE RED WHITE AND BLUE BLAST, WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE THAT.

BUT WE'LL LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHERE THE BEST PLACE IS TO BE TO PUT THAT.

WE WON'T WANT TO HAVE IT IN THE PARK DURING THAT EVENT, BUT WE WILL MOVE THAT AND WE'LL ADVERTISE WHERE THAT WILL BE AND ALL THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

WE WILL KEEP THE ROLL-OFFS OUT, CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM PICKED UP MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK AS WE'VE BEEN HAVING,

[01:30:01]

IN ADDITION TO JUST CONTINUING THE CLEANUP.

>> WE'VE HAD ENOUGH DISCUSSION, TIME FOR A MOTION, OR MORE DISCUSSION.

>> MR. LINDSAY.

>> MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM F1 AS PRESENTED.

>> I HAVE MOTION BY MR. LINDSAY TO APPROVE ITEM F1 AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND, MR. PRESTENBERG?

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A SECOND BY MR. PRESTENBERG.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT TIME I'M ON AGENDA IS ITEM F2,

[2. Discuss and consider a resolution adopting the City of Sachse City Council Rules of Order and Procedure, providing a repealing clause, and providing an effective date. ]

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE CITY OF SACHSE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE, PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MS. GRANGER.

>> YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BACK IN 2022, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED REMOVING ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS FROM THE CHARTER, AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS AT THAT NOVEMBER 2022 ELECTION.

THE MAYOR THEN ASKED ME TO RESEARCH SOME BEST PRACTICES FOR DOCUMENTING RULES AND PROCEDURES AFTER THAT.

I SPOKE WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, AS WELL AS I CHECKED OUT THE CITY OF ALLEN AND THE CITY OF RICHARDSON'S RULES AND PROCEDURES.

THE DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED AND PROPOSED FOR YOU TONIGHT TO DISCUSS IS A MIXTURE OF THOSE ITEMS, AS WELL AS MAKING ANY APPLICABLE RELEVANT CHANGES FOR CITY OF SACHSE.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO DISCUSS WHAT YOU LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO ADOPT A POLICY AND HOW YOU WANT TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

>> THANK YOU, MS. GRANGER. YES. WHEN THE CHARTER WAS AMENDED, I DID ASK MS. GRANGER TO START TO LOOK AT THIS.

THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO LOOK AT, AND I APPRECIATE THE JOB YOU DID IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

MY COMMENT WOULD BE THAT MY GOAL FOR THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE ULTIMATELY PRESENTED BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT IS REALLY JUST A CODIFICATION OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN THERE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT.

IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO ADOPT THIS, THEN IN ESSENCE, IT WOULD CODIFY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALREADY. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT?