Jan 13, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting

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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WE'LL CALL THIS CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SACHSE WILL HOLD A REGULAR MEETING ON MONDAY, JANUARY 13TH, 2025 AT 6 P.M. TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS OF BUSINESS.

FIRST WILL BE THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY MR. KEMPER AND THE PLEDGES BY MR. BENNETT. PRAY WITH ME, PLEASE. FATHER GOD, WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR THE DAY THAT YOU'VE BLESSED US WITH.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE LIFE AND HEALTH THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE WARM HOUSES TO LIVE IN. WE LIFT UP THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN WARM HOUSES AND IN OUT ON THE STREETS.

AND WE ALSO PRAY FOR THOSE FOLKS IN CALIFORNIA AND THE LOSSES THAT THEY'VE ENDURED.

WE ASK, FATHER, THAT YOU'D GIVE US WISDOM AS WE DELIBERATE TONIGHT, AND THAT THE THINGS THAT WE SAY AND DO WOULD BE BRINGING HONOR TO YOUR NAME, AND THE DECISIONS WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR WILL. YOUR SON'S NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.

YOU DID GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD REGARDING ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION OR PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMENTS. ANY COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION? ONLY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

THE TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SHOULD BE PROCESSED.

IT SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE ACTING SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT, THE BOARD IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA AND WILL TAKE COMMENTS UNDER ADVISEMENT.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT ITEM. LET'S GO TO MY AGENDA DETAILS.

[1. Consider approving the December 9, 2024, meeting minutes.]

COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED COPIES OF THIS. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? CORRECTIONS? COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MOVE TO APPROVE. MOVE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KEMPER.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COX.

I'LL HAVE. I'LL HAVE PASSED. NEXT ITEM. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP TO GRANT A CHANGE OF

[2. Conduct a public hearing to consider approval of an ordinance amending the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance and map, to grant a change of zoning from Residential-5 District (R-5) to Neighborhood Shopping District (C-1) on an approximately 1.81-acre tract of land located at 5206 Ben Davis Road, within Sachse city limits.]

THE ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY POSTPONED FROM THE DECEMBER 9TH, 2024 MEETING.

AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT HAS FORMALLY REQUESTED THIS ITEM BE POSTPONED TO THE JANUARY 27TH MEETING.

WE WERE NOTIFIED LATE THIS AFTERNOON OF THIS REQUEST.

AND SO THIS IS WHY IT WAS NOT POSTED WITH THE AGENDA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS YOU POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL JANUARY 27TH, 2025, AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.

IF YOU WOULD LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND MAY NOW ENTERTAIN ANY MOTION FOR POSTPONEMENT.

OKAY. SO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL JANUARY 27TH.

I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE THE PUBLIC MEETING AND POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL JANUARY 27TH.

A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER KEMPER. VICE CHAIR KEMPER.

I'LL SECOND THAT. SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BENNETT.

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THOSE WILL BE CARRIED OVER AND BROUGHT UP ON THE 127 MEETING AS WELL.

[3. Conduct a public hearing to consider and act on an ordinance amending Chapter 11 Zoning, Section 11-3, Subsection C & Chapter 11A Zoning Ordinance, Article 12, Section 3; providing a savings clause; providing for a penalty of fine not to exceed two thousand dollars ($2,000.00); and providing for an effective date.]

I HAVE A PRESENTATION.

ONE MINUTE.

ZONING NOTICE REQUIREMENT AMENDMENT. THE REQUEST IS A AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 11 ZONING.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM. THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF REGULATIONS AND THE STREAMLINING OF PROCESSES AND PROVISIONS ARE IDENTIFIED AS TASKS WITHIN THE CITY'S 2017 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE PROPOSED CHANGES INCLUDE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE.

OUR PROPOSED CHANGES WITH THIS AMENDMENT ARE TO AMEND THE WRITTEN NOTICE REQUIREMENT FROM 1000FT TO 200FT.

THIS WOULD ALIGN BETTER WITH THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS OF 200FT.

AS WELL AS WITH THIS AMENDMENT, REQUIRED THE PLACEMENT OF ZONING SIGNS ON PROPERTY.

AND TO BASICALLY PROVIDE A BEST PRACTICE WITHIN ZONING.

AND THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THE SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF, A STANDARDIZED FORMAT WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE APPLICANT TO FOLLOW, AND IT WILL BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN ALL REQUIRED SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE HEARING PROCESS.

IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE STANDARDIZED FORMAT. AS I SAID, THE APPLICANT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONTRACTING WITH THE SIGN PROVIDER AND CREATING THESE SIGNS AND PLACING THEM ON THE PROPERTY. THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE US WITH A NOTARIZED AFFIDAVIT REQUIRING BASICALLY CONFIRMING THAT THESE SIGNS WERE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE SPECIFIED TIMELINE OF THE ZONING.

SO RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT THEIR JANUARY 21ST, 2025 REGULAR MEETING. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS NOT SO FAR.

IF NOT, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PROCEED FORWARD.

OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. NOW WE'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

JANE REED 2204 CORNWALL LANE. I'M JUST SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF HERE.

SO I DIDN'T REALIZE. SO THE SIGNS THAT HE'S PROPOSING IS THAT GOING TO TAKE PLACE OF THE MAIL OUTS NOW THAT WE ALL RECEIVED? I MEAN, NOT WE ALL.

I THINK THERE'S, SACHSE RIGHT NOW. I GUESS IF THERE'S A ZONING CHANGE, EVERYBODY WITHIN 1000FT OF THAT PROPERTY GETS A MAIL OUT. SO NOW IS THAT SIGN GOING TO REPLACE THE 1000FT AND GOING TO SHRINK IT

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AND HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE? OR THESE SIGNS TO THE ZONING SIGNS THEMSELVES TO BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY, THEY WILL HAVE TO BE PLACED WITHIN TEN DAYS OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. NO BUT. THEY'LL BE CARRIED OUT FROM P AND Z ALL THE WAY THROUGH CITY COUNCIL ACTION.

OKAY, SO IT COULD BE A FEW MONTHS? CORRECT. OKAY.

AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING THEM OUT THERE, SPACING THEM ACCORDING TO THE RULES AND REGULATIONS SET FORTH IN THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS MAINTAINING THEM THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE PROCESS.

SO IF THEY COME DOWN. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING THEM RIGHT BACK UP.

OKAY. WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I'M HERE FOR THE FOR THE OTHER THING, BUT I WOULDN'T GET THE NOTICE IF IT'S. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

RICHARD FITZGERALD, 2502 BARGER LANE. I WOULDN'T HAVE GOT.

BECAUSE. TWO. BECAUSE 200FT IS TWO HOUSES. I MEAN, IT'S MAYBE THREE.

SO 200FT FOR THE ZONING CHANGE THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU'D SEND IT TO SIX PEOPLE, MAYBE EIGHT PEOPLE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S ENOUGH. I THINK IT AFFECTS MY WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND EVEN THOUGH I'M PROBABLY EIGHT, EIGHT, EIGHT HOUSES DOWN, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

SO I DON'T THINK 200, 200FT IS ENOUGH. I THINK 1000FT IS ABOUT RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR DO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST? THE PUBLIC HEARING NEEDS TO BE CLOSED FIRST. OKAY.

TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A MOTION.

JUST. JUST ME. GOOD. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.

DOES ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? CONCERNS? WHY THE CHANGE? WITH THE 200, 01,200? NO IT PUTS US MORE IN LINE. STATE LAW PROBABLY HAS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, 200FT IS NOT FAR. ONE OF THE REASONS TO GO FROM 1000FT TO 200FT IS ONE TO ALIGN WITH STATE LAW, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF MAILINGS THAT STAFF IS SENDING OUT.

WE'RE SENDING OUT HUNDREDS OF MAILINGS. WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH WE'RE SENDING OUT MAILINGS ACROSS HIGHWAY 78 TO AREAS THAT ARE NOT ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE PROMOTION OF PUTTING THE SIGNS OUT THERE IS ANYBODY DRIVING BY THERE CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A ZONING REST.

CURRENTLY WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. SO, THEY CAN QUICKLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THEY CAN TAKE THEIR PHONE AND GO TO THE SITE AND KNOW THAT THERE'S A ZONING CHANGE HAPPENING.

OKAY. AND THERE'S NO THERE'S NO FEAR OF I DIDN'T GET IT IN THE MAIL.

WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF THOSE COMMENTS AS WELL WHERE IT DIDN'T ARRIVE OR.

YEAH. SO. IS THE IS THE ZONING CHANGE FROM RESIDENTS TO BUSINESS, BUSINESS RESIDENTS? DOES IT MATTER? THE ZONING NOTICE REQUIREMENT IS FOR ANY KIND OF REZONING OR SCP.

SO ANY PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE REQUIREMENT RELATED TO ZONING CHANGE OR AN SCP, WE'RE REQUIRED TO SEND A NOTICE REQUIREMENT OUT AND NOTIFY INTO THE PAPER AS WELL. RIGHT. IF THE ZONING IS CHANGED FOR THE BUSINESS AND WE HAVE SOME PARKING.

RIGHT. SO IF WE REDUCE TO 200, WOULD THAT IMPACT.

BECAUSE PEOPLE COMING IN PARKING THEIR CARS. WOULD THAT HINDER THE COMMUNITY WITH HAVING MORE CARS PARKED.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE? I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE.

OKAY. SO IF WE REDUCE RIGHT, AS THE GENTLEMAN POINTED OUT.

RIGHT. SO IF IT'S FOR BUSINESS, IF THE ZONING CHANGE IS FOR BUSINESS.

OH NO, NO, NO. NO, IT'S NOT THAT WAY. ARE YOU ASKING? I THINK HE'S SAYING THE 200 FOOT RADIUS IS ONLY.

IT ONLY APPLIES TO PROPERTY OWNERS. RIGHT. SO IF100FT OF THE.

OH, ONLY FOR THE PROPERTY IS ONLY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS. SO IF 100 OUT OF THE 200FT RELATIVE TO THAT PROPERTY IS PARKING LOT, THAT'S THE THAT'S NOT A THAT'S NOT A NOTICE. RIGHT.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE ZONING NOTICE IS SENT FROM PROPERTY LINE.

SO IT'S THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

AND THEN IT GOES OUT 200FT IN A RADIUS AROUND THERE.

OKAY. SO IT'S NOT A BUSINESS OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

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SO THAT IS WE'VE ASKED ABOUT IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS. THAT IS A GOOD THING. WE'RE ONE OF THE LAST ONES AROUND HERE TO HAVE THAT, I THINK. YEAH.

AND AS PHILIP MENTIONED, BEST PRACTICE IS TO FOLLOW THE 200 FOOT STATE LAW REQUIREMENT AND THEN PROVIDE ZONING SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY SO PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, AS WELL AS THOSE THAT TRAVEL THROUGH THAT AREA, KNOW THAT THERE IS A ZONING REQUEST HAPPENING AND THEY CAN FIND OUT THE INFORMATION.

AND IF THEY WANT TO COME AND SPEAK ON THE ITEM, THEY CAN.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE NOTICE THAT 1000 FEET.

WE'RE ONLY NOTICING OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THAT THAT RADIUS, AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THERE'S A REQUEST HAPPENING. I HAVE A QUESTION, I GUESS TWO, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE THIS COMMISSION PROPOSES MAYBE SOMETHING NOT LIKE MAYBE NOT A THOUSAND, BUT NOT 200. I MEAN, THAT IS QUITE A DELTA.

LIKE, COULD WE MAKE IT 500 IF WE ALL RECOMMENDED THAT? IS THAT ON THE TABLE? AND THEN I'M ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE PRESENTATION COVERED THIS PENALTY, THIS $2,000 PENALTY. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT IF THEY DON'T PUT THE SIGN UP.

YES. NO. IF THE SIGN IS NOT PUT UP, THEN THEY WOULD ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD NOT TAKE PLACE.

SO THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SIGN UP THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

OTHERWISE WE'LL HAVE TO TABLE THE ITEM OR NOT.

TABLE. POSTPONE THE ITEM UNTIL THEY RECTIFY THAT SITUATION.

THE ZONING FINE IS RELATED TO FINES WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE ITSELF.

SO IF SOMEBODY IS DOING SOMETHING AGAINST THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE'S A MAXIMUM FINE OF UP TO $2,000.

OKAY. THAT'S STANDARD BOILERPLATE FOR ANY ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGE WITHIN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

IS THERE CURRENTLY NOT, I GUESS, A FINE OR A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF A FINE IN THE.

NO, IT'S UNIFORM THROUGHOUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT IT'S $2,000.

OKAY. DO YOU KNOW THE OTHER QUESTION BY CHANCE? LIKE IF WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1000 AND 200.

P&Z COULD MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS THIS ITEM, IF YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR YOU RECOMMEND A DENIAL IF YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE OVERALL DISTANCE REQUIREMENT, YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, FROM STAFF STANDPOINT, WE WERE REDUCING IT DOWN TO 200 BECAUSE WE WERE SENDING OUT HUNDREDS OF POSTCARDS, AND WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WAS THE BEST NOTIFICATION METHOD.

BUT IF P&Z HAS A RECOMMENDATION OF A DIFFERENT DISTANCE.

YOU ARE ENTITLED TO, TO REQUEST THAT. OKAY. IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, STATE LAW REQUIRES NO MORE THAN 200FT.

CORRECT. DOES STATE LAW REQUIRE PUTTING OUT SIGNS? NO. OKAY. SO WE'RE SUBTRACTING 800FT OFF, OFF THE DISTANCE.

BUT WE'RE SUPPLEMENTING THAT BY REQUIRING SIGNS TO BE PUT OUT.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN DEPENDING UPON THE PROPERTY SIZE IT COULD BE MORE THAN ONE SIGN.

YEAH. THEY'LL BE SPACED OUT A CERTAIN DISTANCE.

SO IF IT'S A LARGE PROPERTY THERE'S GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF ZONING SIGNS.

AND IF IT'S ON A CORNER THERE WILL BE ONE ON EACH FRONTAGE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE THE PREVIOUS CASE, THERE WOULD BE ONES FRONTING ON THE SOUTH RIDGE AND THEN BEN DAVIS AS WELL.

OKAY. AND THEN IF IT'S LONGER THAN 250FT I BELIEVE IT REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL SIGN.

I JUST THINK THERE COULD BE A BETTER WAY TO DO IT. I MEAN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A RADIUS, IT'S JUST A VAGUE RADIUS, RIGHT? IT IS FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND IT'S 200FT, WHICH ISN'T VERY FAR.

I MEAN, WE WHEN WE DO PLANNING OR YOU DO SITE PLANNING, EVERYTHING'S PLANNED OUT TO THE INCH.

RIGHT. IT'S A VERY PRECISE. WHY DON'T WE. I MEAN, IS THERE NOT A WAY TO DETERMINE THE ACTUAL AFFECTED AREAS AND HIT THOSE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF HAVING SOME FIXED RADIUS THAT WOULD PIT THINGS ACROSS 78.

RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS. BECAUSE IF IT'S ON THIS SIDE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAIN TRACKS, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY A CHANGE IN ZONING PER SE, BUT THE PEOPLE DIRECTLY BEHIND THEM MAY BE 500FT OR 1000FT BEHIND THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION IS GOING TO BE THEIR WAY TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW WE NOTIFY AND WHO WE NOTIFY.

SO THE BARE MINIMUM IS THE 200FT. SO THAT'S A RADIUS THAT WE HAVE TO DO REGARDLESS.

THIS GOING BEYOND THAT. THAT'S WHERE IT GETS PROBLEMATIC, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BASELINE OF 200FT RADIUS AND THEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER MECHANISM. AND GENERALLY THAT'S WHY THE ZONING SIGNS ARE SOMETHING THAT'S ADDED TO ANYBODY WITHIN THAT, THAT IMMEDIATE AREA, THEY'LL DRIVE BY IT AND SEE IT.

AND THAT'S THE THING THAT I HAVE. THE ISSUE WITH THE SIGN IS THAT THE QR CODE ON THERE IS GOING TO WHIP THEIR PHONE OUT AT 40 MILES AN HOUR AND POP A PICTURE OF A SIGN.

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A LOT OF THOSE SIGNS ARE PUT IN PLACES WHERE THERE'S NOWHERE TO STOP AND TAKE A PICTURE OF IT TO GET THE PLANNING.

SO SOMETHING THERE NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH.

ARE WE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE GRAPHIC FOR THE SIGN? BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO SAY FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT OF WHAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES, THIS IMAGE AND CONCEPT OF THE SIGN IS ACTUALLY PREFERRED, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE IT HAS A QR CODE, IT HAS A PHONE NUMBER AND IT HAS A HAS A WEBSITE.

I'VE SEEN SIGNS FROM OTHER CITIES THAT SAY ZONING CHANGE.

REFER TO WEBSITE FOR DETAILS AND THERE'S NO OTHER DETAILS ON IT BESIDES THAT.

IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO FIND. AND IT'S IT LEAVES IT UP TO THE PUBLIC TO GO FIND A SPECIFIC AGENDA ON THE WEBSITE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS VERY HARD TO DO IN SOME CASES.

SO TO ME, THIS SIGN ALREADY HAS MORE INFORMATION ON IT THAN I'VE SEEN IN A LOT OF OTHER ADJACENT CITIES.

SO YES. SO WE PUT THE HYPERLINK THERE WITH CITYOFSACHSE.COM/PUBLICHEARINGS SO THAT IT DIRECTLY APPLIES TO THAT ARCHIVE WHERE YOU CAN FIND WHAT ZONING CASE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

NOT JUST THE CITY SITE WHERE THEY GOT TO GO DIG AROUND TRYING TO FIND IT.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S BAD, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING IN A VEHICLE, SOMETIMES A NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETIMES ON BUSY STREETS TO GET THE QR CODE.

BUT HOW WOULD YOU GET THE SPECIFIC AGENDA INFORMATION ON THERE SO THAT SOMEBODY COULD READ IT WHILE THEY'RE FLYING BY? EITHER IT'S ALL DIFFICULT AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

BUT I JUST THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY OR SAFER WAY.

AT LEAST THERE'S A CHALLENGE BETWEEN THE SPACE AVAILABLE TO PUT THE PUT THE MESSAGE THERE, AND HOW MUCH MESSAGE YOU CAN PUT AND HOW SMALL THE FONT BEGINS TO GET.

YEP, I AGREE. I'LL SAY MOSTLY I SEE THESE A LOT IN THE SURROUNDING CITIES, AND I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE A LOT OF DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE CHANGE IS, JUST HOW TO GO FIND IT. AND SOME JUST GIVE THE CITY WEBSITE.

THEY DON'T GIVE YOU ANY. LIKE WE'RE EXTENDING THAT HERE TO PUBLIC HEARING.

SO, THEY COULD AT LEAST HAVE SOME IDEA WHERE TO FIND IT. AND THE QR CODE IF IT TAKES THEM TO THE SAME PLACE.

SO, TO APPROVE AS, AS REQUESTED, OR DO WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT DATE OR DO WE WANT TO MAKE THAT RACE DISTANCE, OR WHAT DO WE WANT DO NEXT. I KNOW OTHER CITIES IN THE METROPLEX HAVE A RADIUS LARGER THAN 200.

IT'S 300, FOR EXAMPLE. MAYBE NOT MUCH MORE. PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 200FT.

IF IT'S THE APPLYING OR, YOU KNOW, ADHERING TO TEXAS STATE LAW WITH THE SIGNS GOING ON, THE PROPERTY LIMITS OF THE ZONING REQUEST. BECAUSE THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT DRIVING BY.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT STATE LAW. THAT'S ACTUALLY ADDING ON ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR EXTENDING THE RADIUS BEYOND 200FT.

ANYONE ELSE. SO I NEED A MOTION. I MOVE WE RECOMMENDED CITY COUNCIL AS IS WRITTEN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR KEMPER AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BENNETT TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

RECOMMEND AS PRESENTED. I GUESS YES.

IT'S A TWO STEP PROCEDURE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A 5 TO 1 VOTE TO RECOMMEND AS PRESENTED. THE FINAL ITEM IS AN ADJOURNMENT.

WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU EVERYONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.