Feb 17, 2025 City Council

[A. Meeting Opening]

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WELL, WELCOME EVERYONE OUT TO THE SACHSE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. TODAY IS MONDAY, FEBRUARY 17TH, 2025. THE TIME IS GRANGER 6:30 P.M. WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:30 P.M.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM TWO. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I'VE ASKED MR. PRESTENBERG TO OFFER THE INVOCATION AND MISS HOWARTH TO LEAD THE PLEDGES.

IF YOU WILL PLEASE RISE. PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH GRATITUDE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT THE LIVES OF THOSE WE REPRESENT.

HELP US TO ACT WITH FAIRNESS, INTEGRITY, AND COMPASSION.

MAY OUR DISCUSSIONS BE RESPECTFUL, OUR CHOICES BE JUST, AND OUR HEARTS BE FOCUSED ON THE GREATER GOOD.

BLESS THE CITY, ITS LEADERS, AND ITS PEOPLE. MAY WE WORK TOGETHER IN UNITY AND PEACE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL.

IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU.

MAY BE SEATED. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM B, PUBLIC COMMENT.

[B. Public Comment]

COMMENTS REGARDING THE CONSENT AGENDA OR ANY DISCUSSION. ONLY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

THE TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING. ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, COUNCIL IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA BUT WILL TAKE COMMENTS UNDER ADVISEMENT.

I HAVE A COUPLE CARDS. MARTY HOLBERT OKAY. THANKS, SIR.

NEXT CARD I HAVE IS CHRISTINE HAUGHNEY. YES, MA'AM.

COME ON UP. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION. IF I COULD GET YOU JUST TO STATE YOUR NAME. AND CHRISTINE HAUGHNEY, 4607 LANE SUBDIVISION. SACHSE ON THE CREEK. THANK YOU.

I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S BECOMING AN ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD EVERY WEEK.

AND I THINK I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS IS DOING THIS.

THERE USED TO BE A BRIEFING IN HERE, AND I CHECKED ALL THESE, AND THERE'S THE BRIEFING IS NO LONGER IN THERE.

BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S CREATING A HAZARD AMONGST TRASH.

IT'S CREATING TRASH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT ONLY IN MY PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IF YOU WALK AROUND THESE AREAS DOWN HERE, WHICH I DO, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE NOT PICKED UP.

THEY'RE THERE. THEY'RE LIKE SEVERAL. THE NEIGHBORS DON'T PICK THEM UP.

THEY'RE EITHER WET, THEY'RE ON THE STREET, THEY'RE ON THE LAWN, BUT THEY DON'T GET PICKED UP.

AND THESE ARE JUST SUPPLEMENTAL ADS, LIKE ADS FOR THE GROCERY STORES OR WHATEVER.

AND I GET ONE EVERY WEEK. THIS IS JUST THE LAST FOUR WEEKS.

ACTUALLY, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT LAST FOUR WEEKS.

BUT THEY DO IT EVERY WEEK. AND I'M JUST LIKE, IT'S TRASH.

THAT'S ALL IT IS, BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN LOOK AT THEM.

I JUST TAKE OFF THE BAG AND THROW THE REST AWAY IN THE RECYCLE.

BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO PUT A STOP TO IT, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR IT EXTENDS INTO SACHSE, BUT I KNOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD OVER HERE AND THIS AREA OVER HERE.

THESE GET THROWN IN. LIKE I SAID, THEY DON'T THEY DON'T NORMALLY, DON'T LAND IN THE YARD, IN THE STREET, IN THE IN THE CURB, THE DRIVEWAY.

AND WHEN IT'S RAINING THEY'RE WET AND THEY LEAVE THEM THERE. THEY DON'T GET PICKED UP. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO POSSIBLY PUT A STOP TO THIS. IT'S. IT'S A WASTE. AND I DON'T EVEN LOOK AT THEM.

I DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT THEM. BUT STILL, THEY THROW THEM.

BUT THEY DON'T. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DOING IT. I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF IT SO THAT MAYBE YOU ALL CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

THERE'S A MR. THATCHER OVER HERE. HAS THE NUMBER THAT IS ON THE ON THE BAG.

SO I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE I CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO MAKE THEM STOP.

IT'S JUST THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE USED TO BE A BRIEFING IN HERE, AND IT'S NOT IN HERE AT LEAST THREE ANYWAY. BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO, FOR YOU ALL TO DO, TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO I THINK IT'S THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS DOING THIS.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT YOU CAN PUT A STOP TO IT BECAUSE IT'S TRASHING THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE NO LONGER HAVE AN HOA. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, EVERYTHING GOES ON THE WAYSIDE.

THE NEIGHBORS DON'T PICK UP AFTER THIS. THEY DON'T PICK UP AFTER THE TRASH THAT FALLS OUT OF THEIR TRASH CANS.

THEIR YARDS ARE A MESS, SO WE'RE HAVING TO PUT UP WITH PEOPLE THAT DON'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR YARDS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DON'T PICK UP.

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NOT JUST MINE, AROUND THE CITY. SO I'M NOT SURE, LIKE I SAID, HOW FAR THIS EXTENDS IF IT GOES WAY BEYOND TO THE OTHER PARTS OF SACHSE.

BUT I'M JUST. I LIKE TO I LIKE TO RECYCLE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO RECYCLE THIS EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW? SO IF Y'ALL COULD HELP ME OUT HERE AND MAYBE, POSSIBLY PUT IT INTO THIS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HORNEY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM C. COUNCIL STAFF REPORTS AND UPDATES.

[C. Council/Staff Reports and Updates]

ANYONE ON COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE AUDIENCE AT THIS TIME. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE ARBOR DAY JUBILEE, COMING UP ON MARCH 29TH IS UNDERWAY AND WE ARE TAKING SIGNUPS FOR TEAMS AND GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO COME OUT AND HELP. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE BACK AND MAKE A POSITIVE COMMUNITY.

IN HONOR OF MAYOR DE ARBOR DAY, I CAN'T TALK TONIGHT.

WE'RE GIVING AWAY FREE TREES, BREAKFAST AND COFFEE.

IF YOU COME OUT AND HELP US TAKE CARE OF YOUR CITY.

THANK YOU. MR. MILLSAP SACHSE PUBLIC LIBRARY AGAIN.

FEBRUARY IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH. THE LIBRARY BOOK DISPLAY IS SHOWCASING AFRICAN AMERICAN CITIZENS CONTRIBUTIONS TO AMERICAN HISTORY. AND I THINK THAT IS WELL WORTH STOPPING BY AND TAKING A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE DISPLAYS.

ALSO, FEBRUARY THE 22ND, THERE WILL BE A BE A TEEN WEEKEND DONUT BATH BOMBS.

THIS IS FOR TEENAGERS 12 TO 18. PARENTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STAY AND WATCH AND OBSERVE.

SO INVITE ALL OF THOSE OUT. THIS MONTH. THEY'RE GOING TO BE EATING SOME DELICIOUS DONUTS WHILE THEY DECORATE A BATH BOMB WITH GLAZE AND SPRINKLES. AND I'M SURE THE DONUTS WILL BE SPRINKLED WITH THE PLENTY OF SUGAR FOR EVERYBODY.

ALSO, THERE'S GOING TO BE A DOGMAN PARTY ON FEBRUARY THE 28TH.

THIS IS A WHOLE FAMILY EVENT. AND SO YOU'RE INVITED TO COME TO THE LIBRARY'S DOGMAN PARTY ON FEBRUARY THE 28TH TO CELEBRATE THE BELOVED CRIME FIGHTING HERO WITH CRAFTS AND FUN ACTIVITIES.

THANK YOU, SIR. MR. PRESTENBERG. YES, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. SHOW OF HANDS. WHO WENT AND GOT A PET FOR VALENTINE'S DAY? OKAY, WELL, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE. WE HAVE A FEATURED PET OF THE OF THE MONTH.

HIS NAME IS ODIN. HE IS A FOUR MONTH OLD ANATOLIAN SHEPHERD MIX WITH BEAUTIFUL MARKINGS AND A SWEET, PLAYFUL SPIRIT. HE LIKES PINA COLADAS. I'M KIDDING ABOUT THAT.

THE SWEET PUPPY SHOWS PROMISE FOR EASY TRAINING, AND HE'S ALREADY NEUTERED, VACCINATED, AND MICROCHIPPED.

SO, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A NEW COMPANION, WE INVITE YOU TO COME MEET ODIN IN PERSON AND SEE IF HE'S THE RIGHT MATCH FOR YOUR FAMILY.

SO I DON'T WANT TO COME HERE IN TWO WEEKS AND HAVE TO READ THIS AGAIN, SO I'M JUST KIDDING.

NUMBER TWO, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DADDY DAUGHTER DANCE IN A FEW DAYS.

NO. OKAY, I WILL THEN ON SATURDAY. I KNOW MY TWO, TWO OF MY DAUGHTERS AND A BUNCH OF OTHER OF HER FRIENDS ARE GOING TO BE ON A PARTY BUS, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T START THAT TOO YOUNG, RIGHT? AND GOING TO GO DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY WITH THEIR DADS OR FATHER FIGURES IN THEIR LIVES OVER HERE AT THE FELIX CENTER.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD TIME. AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DOES A FANTASTIC JOB YEAR IN, YEAR OUT PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

SO HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. THANK YOU. MR. PRESTENBERG.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANYTHING TO ANNOUNCE? NOT MISS NASH. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.

ONE WELCOMING ONE OF OUR NEW HIRES, CHARLES ANDERSON.

HE IS OUR UTILITY BILLING CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE.

THAT IS NEW TO THE TEAM. SO IF YOU SEE HIM, WELCOME HIM.

AND A QUICK SHOUT OUT FOR LANCE WHITWORTH, OUR PARKS DIRECTOR.

HE PASSED HIS CERTIFIED PARKS AND RECREATION EXECUTIVE EXAM.

AND SO THAT ESTABLISHES A NATIONAL STANDARD FOR MANAGERIAL, ADMINISTRATIVE AND EXECUTIVE PARKS AND RECREATION PROFESSIONALS.

AND SO, WE ARE VERY PROUD OF LANCE FOR PASSING THAT EXAM.

AND JUST ONE OTHER QUICK RECOGNITION. AS YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WITH THE STORM ON MAY 28TH WE HAD EXTENSIVE COSTS RELATIVE TO ALL OF THE BRUSH CLEANUP THAT WE DID.

AND I AM VERY HAPPY TO REPORT THAT NOT ONLY DID WE GET FULLY REIMBURSED FROM FEMA FOR THE 75%, BUT THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS KICKED IN THE OTHER 25%.

SO WE HAVE RECEIVED THE FULL $300,000 BACK, WHICH WILL GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

SO I WANT TO GIVE SOME SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR THAT TO VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE.

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TO GET THESE TYPES OF REIMBURSEMENTS, YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF WORK ON THE FRONT END AS THINGS ARE HAPPENING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DOCUMENT CORRECTLY SO THAT WE'LL GET THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS. SO JUST A THANKS TO BOTH KYLE AND LOGAN FOR DOING ALL THE WORK ON THE FRONT END TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THESE FUNDS REIMBURSED BACK TO THE CITY. THAT'S DEFINITELY GREAT NEWS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE, MISS NASH.

DON'T PRAISE FEMA A WHOLE LOT BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO FEMA FOR THAT.

JUST A COUPLE QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS. OUR SACHSE, ACTUALLY, EXCUSE ME. SACHSE SCHOLARSHIP IS DUE MAY 20TH.

EXCUSE ME. MARCH 25TH. THEY'RE STILL OPEN. THE SCHOLARSHIP IS AWARDED TO ONE STUDENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000, AND MUST BE USED IN THE 2526 ACADEMIC SCHOOL YEAR AT AN ACCREDITED INSTITUTION BEYOND THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

AGAIN, APPLICATIONS MUST BE POSTMARKED ON MARCH BY MARCH 25TH, 2025.

IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, IT'S ON OUR CITY WEBSITE OR MR. THATCHER. YOU CAN ASK FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS. AND WE HAD A GREAT TIME THIS PAST TUESDAY NIGHT AT THE STATE OF THE CITY.

IT WAS A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL EVENT. WE'RE THEY'RE FIRST AND FOREMOST TO HONOR OUR BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.

SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR WHAT THEY DO, ALL THEIR VOLUNTEER HOURS THEY PUT IN FOR THE CITY TO MAKE OUR CITY GREAT. AS PART OF THAT RECOGNITION DINNER, WE DID DO A STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS. WE ALSO HANDED OUT SOME AWARDS.

OUR SPONSORS. WE COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT OUR SPONSORS MUCH IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT FEMA DID.

THEY PAID FOR EVERYTHING, SO THEY DID NOT COST US A DIME EITHER.

SO THAT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD THING TO DO AND TO HAVE.

BUT PROBABLY THE BEST THANK YOU I HAVE IS FOR MANNY'S.

MANNY'S PROVIDE THE FOOD. AND IT WAS THIS AWESOME FOOD AS USUAL. SO THANK YOU MANNY'S FOR THE FOOD. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE OTHER NEWS I HAVE TODAY ABOUT THAT IS IF YOU COULDN'T JOIN US ON TUESDAY NIGHT, THE YOUTUBE VIDEO OF STATE OF THE CITY IS NOW ONLINE, SO YOU CAN WATCH THAT ON OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL STARTING NOW, BECAUSE I GOT A NOTICE ON MY PHONE THAT IT WAS UPLOADED EARLIER.

SO, ESTHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP IN PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WATCHING THE VIDEO, EVEN THOUGH YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT IT'S A GOOD JOB PUTTING THAT ALL TOGETHER.

ESTHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM D, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ONE.

[D. Consent Agenda]

ITEM TWO CANCEL THE MARCH 17TH, 2025 COUNCIL MEETING DUE TO THE WYLIE ISD AND GARLAND ISD SPRING BREAKS.

ITEM THREE APPROVE THE USE OF PARK DEVELOPMENT FUNDS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF LED LIGHTING AT SALMAN PARK FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $40,722.

ANYONE ON COUNCIL LIKE TO REMOVE ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

HEARING NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MISS HOWARTH.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

HAVE A MOTION BY MISS HOWARTH TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? MR. PRESTENBERG SECOND. SECOND.

BY MR. PRESTENBERG, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM E DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[1. Receive Sachse Police Department's 2024 Year End Review presentation.]

MISS NASH. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS THE ANNUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO GET TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON WITHIN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR AND WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

TONIGHT, IT'LL BE PRIMARILY PRESENTED BY CHIEF SYLVESTER AS NORMAL.

BUT ALSO, WE'LL HAVE SOME HIGHLIGHTS HERE FROM ASSISTANT CHIEF BAXTER AS WELL.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MAYOR. CAN I ESCAPE HERE? MESS IT UP ALREADY. WELL, WE'RE STANDING BY. OKAY.

I SAY WELCOME, CHIEF, BUT I CAN SAY WELCOME, CHIEFS.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THIS PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL, IT'S GREAT TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DURING 2024. TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THINGS UP A BIT.

OUR PRESENTATION IS GENERALLY THE SAME IN REGARD TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER, BUT CHIEF BAXTER IS GOING TO INITIATE OUR CONVERSATION WITH A OVERVIEW OF OUR CRIME STATISTICS AND VARIOUS OTHER METRICS THAT WE BENCHMARK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

CHIEF BAXTER. THANK YOU, SIR. WELL, IT'S HONORED TO HIGHLIGHT A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT OUR PATROL AND OUR DETECTIVES AND OUR PERSONNEL SUPPORT STAFF HAVE DONE. SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT. JUST A COUPLE OF REMINDERS.

FIRST, WHEN WE PICK OUT SOME OF THESE CRIMES, WE HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT WE FEEL ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITIZENS AND TO Y'ALL.

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YOU'LL SEE THOSE AS WE GO ALONG. ALSO, STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DEAL WITH SMALL NUMBERS, PERCENTAGES GET REAL BIG. SO MAKE SURE YOU KIND OF PAY ATTENTION AS WE HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THESE CRIMES, NOT ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS BUT ALSO THE PERCENTAGES.

THIS FIRST SLIDE REALLY INDICATES AN OVERVIEW OF BOTH OUR PART ONE AND PART TWO CRIMES.

WE'RE REQUIRED BY DPS AND THE FBI TO SUBMIT PART ONE AND PART TWO CRIMES TO THEM.

IN ORDER TO HOW THEY CHARACTERIZE THAT. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A MANUAL ON HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PRESENT THAT HERE.

YOU HAVE YOUR PART ONE CRIMES, WHICH USUALLY ENTAIL SOME OF OUR MORE SERIOUS CRIMES, LIKE OUR ASSAULTS, OUR SEXUAL ASSAULTS, ROBBERIES SOME OTHER, OTHER MINOR CRIMES, LIKE BURGLARIES, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE MAJOR, BUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER ONES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS, BUT MORE OF PROPERTY.

AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR PART TWO CRIMES WHICH REALLY HIGHLIGHT ALL THOSE OTHER ONES.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRIMINAL MISCHIEF, FORGERY, FRAUDS AND A LOT OF OUR SELF-INITIATED ACTIVITY.

SO IT'S A BIG DISTINCTION WHEN YOU SEE PART ONE CRIMES GO DOWN 19%.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR MAJOR CRIMES THAT WE REPORT.

AND WHEN YOU SEE OUR PART TWO CRIMES GO UP, A LOT OF THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IS A LOT OF OUR SELF-INITIATED OR OUR SELF WORK, OUR PATROL OFFICERS OUT THERE WORKING HARDER, MAKING MORE STOPS, ARRESTING MORE PEOPLE, FINDING MORE THINGS IN THE CARS.

SO THOSE ARE THE DISTINCTION. YOU CAN ALSO SEE OUR TREND FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.

WE'RE KIND OF DROPPING BACK DOWN TO 2022. OVERALL, FOR ALL OF OUR CRIME, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SAME THEME OF 2022, 2023 AND 2024, HOW IT KIND OF BUBBLES UP AND COMES BACK DOWN.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT LITTLE FLOW AS WE CONTINUE ON.

OUR PART ONE CRIMES. SO, AS YOU CAN TELL WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE INDIVIDUALLY.

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM. WE DID HAVE ONE HOMICIDE.

SO IT'S INCREASE OF THAT ONE FROM 2023. THAT WAS A DATING RELATIONSHIP WHERE SOMEONE TOOK THE OTHER PERSON'S LIFE AND THEN END UP TAKING THEIR OWN LIFE. WE DID HAVE ASSAULTS. YOU CAN SEE THE DROP THERE.

THIS WAS A BIG JUMP LAST YEAR. SO THIS WAS AN IMPROVEMENT OF GOING DOWN.

THE ASSAULTS, I WILL TELL YOU, THAT, ARE KNOWN SUBJECTS FOR THE MOST PART.

THEY ARE A LOT OF FAMILY VIOLENCE CALLS. YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR DETECTIVES DO A GREAT JOB OF FOLLOWING UP, AS WELL AS OUR INITIAL CALL RESPONSE OF OUR PATROL OFFICERS.

SO, A LOT OF THESE ARE CLEARED. WE ALREADY HAVE THE LAW OF HIGH CLEARANCE ON OUR ASSAULT CASES.

SO YOU'LL SEE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT. SEXUAL ASSAULT.

ALTHOUGH THERE IS A JUMP OF SIX THIS IS USUALLY ROUGHLY WHERE WE SEE OUR SEXUAL ASSAULTS AROUND 6 TO 8, SO IT FLUCTUATES AROUND THERE. LAST YEAR WAS A PRETTY BIG DIP DOWN.

ALL THOSE SUSPECTS ARE ALSO KNOWN OFFENDERS. THERE'S NOT ANY WHODUNIT.

IT'S ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE KNOWN FAMILY DATING RELATIONSHIPS, THOSE TYPES OF OFFENSES.

WE DID HAVE ONE ROBBERY. THAT WAS A CITIZEN FROM ANOTHER CITY WHO CAME THROUGH AND HAD A CRASH AND THEN FIGURED HIS CAR COULDN'T WORK ANYMORE.

SO, HE WENT IN, KIND OF GRABBED ANOTHER CAR FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.

THERE WAS NO WEAPON SEEN. IT WAS JUST A THREAT OF VIOLENCE.

AND THEN HE DROVE OFF. A CASE WAS LATER FILED ON THAT ON THAT INDIVIDUAL AFTER HE WAS ARRESTED.

RESIDENTIAL BURGLARY. NOW, THESE NUMBERS OF OUR PROPERTY CRIMES WE'RE GETTING INTO.

IF YOU COMPARE WITH OUR OTHER CITIES, THEY DO HAVE A TREND GOING DOWN.

BUT THEIR NUMBERS ARE MUCH GREATER. OUR NEIGHBORS' NUMBERS ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR NUMBERS.

SO WE REALLY DO A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING OUR NUMBERS ON THE LOWER SIDE.

OUR RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES. THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY KIND OF CONSISTENT METHOD OF OPERATION.

IT'S USUALLY I MEAN, IT GOES FROM THE GAMBIT OF WHAT'S BEING TAKEN.

IT'S NOTHING REALLY THAT'S SPECIFIC TO ONE PERSON.

SO, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL LEADS THAT OUR DETECTIVES HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING UP ON.

DOING A GOOD JOB OF CLEARING SOME OF THOSE CASES.

BUILDING BURGLARY. WE HAD TEN. THERE'S A REASON WHY I BELIEVE WE DROPPED FROM 19 TO 10.

BECAUSE LAST YEAR IN 2023 WAS A LOT OF OUR CONSTRUCTION.

SO A LOT OF OUR HOUSES, THE WAY THE STATE LAW AND THE CODE READS, IS IF YOU HAVE FOUR WALLS ON IT AND YOU DON'T HABITATE IT, THEN IT IS A BUILDING. SO WHEN WE HAVE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION WORK GOING ON, WE HAD MORE BURGLARY OF BUILDINGS THAN WE DID THIS YEAR BECAUSE OUR CONSTRUCTION KIND OF DECREASED. AND THESE TEN, THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE STORAGE UNITS AND SHEDS.

SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT YOUR TYPICAL BUILDINGS THAT WE DID IN 2023.

THERE IS A SUSPECT THAT I KNOW OUR DETECTIVES HAVE FOLLOWED UP WITH SOME OTHER AGENCIES OF A CREW THAT WAS GOING AROUND, SO WE HAVE SOME GOOD LEADS ON THAT AS WELL. VEHICLE BURGLARY 26.

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NOT ENOUGH. THREE ARE FORCED ENTRIES. SO, THIS IS OUR PLUG THAT WE ALWAYS GIVE.

LOCK YOUR CAR DOOR. HIDE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE SOMETHING IN THERE.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO HIDE SOMETHING, DON'T HIDE YOUR GUN. AND ALSO JUST REMOVE IT.

REMOVE YOUR VALUABLES. IF THEY'RE IN YOUR CAR, JUST REMOVE THEM.

IF NOT, LOCK IT AND HIDE IT. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT COULD EASILY BE PREVENTABLE.

23 AUTO THEFTS. WE DID HAVE A DECREASE OF THAT.

THERE WAS A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON CHEVYS. THERE WAS A RING GOING AROUND.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES, TOO. THERE IS A TASK FORCE FOR THESE AGENCIES.

ONE OF OUR STOLEN CARS WAS PICKED UP, AND I THINK ARLINGTON.

AND THAT GUY WAS LINKED BACK TO ONE OF THE RINGS.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO TRY TO CLEAR UP SOME OF OUR CASES AS WELL.

THEFTS. WE HAD ABOUT 60 OF OUR THEFTS WERE SHOPLIFTING, WITH A MAJOR PORTION OF THOSE BEING WALMART.

WALMART, OF COURSE. OTHER THAN THAT, JUST YOUR GENERAL TYPES OF, YOU KNOW, BICYCLES, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE LAYING AROUND THE YARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT IS A SNAPSHOT PICTURE OF OUR PART ONE CRIMES.

OUR PART TWO CRIMES. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF JUMPED UP A LOT IN 2023.

AND IT'S COME BACK DOWN TO WHERE WE USUALLY SEE IT.

FORGERY AND FRAUD ALSO ENTAILS YOUR IDENTITY THEFT.

WHICH VICTIMS CAN REPORT EITHER IN THEIR WHERE THEY WORK OR WHERE THEY LIVE.

SO WE DO SEE A LOT OF THOSE CASES, TOO. THE NEXT ONES ARE I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT ARE A LOT OF RESPONSE TO CALLS, BUT MORE OF ANYTHING IT'S MORE OF OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITY, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC INTOXICATION.

OTHER ALCOHOL VIOLATIONS, DWI AND DRUG OFFENSES.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ONE I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE MOST IS DWI.

THAT IS A BIG JUMP FROM OUR PATROL OFFICERS. THEY REALLY WORKED HARD WORKING THOSE.

PLACES COMING AWAY FROM THE BAR. PUBLIC INTOXICATION ARE USUALLY SOME OF THOSE CALLS COMING OUT OF THE BARS AS WELL.

SO THE DWI IS A GOOD SIGN THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE REALLY WORKING THE STREETS, TRYING TO REMOVE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S PREVENTABLE TO, YOU KNOW, FINDING THOSE PEOPLE AND MOVE THEM OFF THE STREETS.

DRUG OFFENSES ARE USUALLY THE RESULT OF TRAFFIC STOPS AND FINDING THINGS INSIDE THE CAR AFTER A TRAFFIC ARREST OR PROBABLE CAUSE.

THIS IS A SIX YEAR SNAPSHOT FOR THESE FOUR OFFENSES.

RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES. BUILDING BURGLARIES. VEHICLE BURGLARIES AND AUTO THEFT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SAME MOVEMENT OF THE BUBBLE POP OVER IN 2023 AND THEN COMING BACK DOWN.

WE'D LIKE TO USE THIS CRIME OR THIS CHART LINE GRAPH THAT KIND OF SIGNIFIES A LOT OF OUR MOVEMENT WITH MOVEMENT FROM NATIONAL LEVEL AND STATE LEVEL. THIS ONLY GOES UP TO 2023 BECAUSE THE UCR DATA IS USUALLY A YEAR BEHIND.

SO IF YOU REMEMBER, LAST YEAR WE HAD A LITTLE RISE.

YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE DIP UP THERE IN 2023 FOR US.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE HOW WE'RE ALSO BEHIND OR MUCH LOWER THAN THE TEXAS AND THE NATIONAL LEVEL OF THEIR AVERAGES.

SO I MEAN, FOR OUR PROPERTY CRIME, WE'RE RIGHT THERE MOVING.

WE'VE BEEN PRETTY STEADY. AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LITTLE DIP ON THIS LINE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF THE DECREASE IN CRIME.

VIOLENT CRIME. YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE RISE IN 2023.

KIND OF FALLS ALONG THE SAME LINES AS THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

I WILL TELL YOU THIS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE VIOLENT CRIME RATE PER 100,000 FOR THE NATIONAL TEXAS LEVEL, YOU'RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO COME IN CONTACT WITH SOME KIND OF VIOLENT CRIME OUTSIDE OF SACHSE.

I MEAN, WE'RE PRETTY, PRETTY LOW THERE ON THE ON THE GRAPH.

THIS ONE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS A LOT OF THE ACTIVITY WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH.

AND YOU CAN TELL THE POPULATION GROWTH GOES UP. OUR ACCIDENTS HAVE GONE UP.

KIND OF PROBABLY MIRRORS THAT A LITTLE BIT TO SOME DEGREE.

WE HAD ROUGHLY AROUND 400 AND SOMETHING ACCIDENTS.

THE ARREST. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE REST ARE STILL KIND OF STABLE.

GOING UP A LITTLE BIT. I WANT TO SAY AROUND 60 ARRESTS FOR THE YEAR THEY WENT UP.

ALSO SHORT OF ABOUT FOUR 400. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE GROWTH OF OR THE ACTIVITY OF THE OFFICERS AND THE GOOD WORK THEY'RE DOING ON THE ON THE ROAD ARE ALSO SIGNIFYING AND CHANGING OR GETTING RESULTS IN TERMS OF MORE ARRESTS AND ALSO MORE DWI OFF THE STREET, MORE DRUGS OFF THE STREET. AND I'M ALSO GOING TO SAY THAT AS WE GET INTO OUR PROPERTY CRIMES, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER OF THE MORE PEOPLE SEE LIGHTS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, THEY'RE GOING TO STAY OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS MORE.

SO THE MORE ACTIVITY THEY DO AND THE MORE PEOPLE THEY PULL OVER.

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AND FOR MY LAST SLIDE THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE ALSO MEASURE OUR RESPONSE TIMES.

IF YOU REMEMBER, THE CHIEF HAS WANTS US TO STAY BELOW FOUR MINUTES FOR PRIORITY ONE.

PRIORITY ONE CRIMES TYPICALLY ARE OUR IN PROGRESS CALLS OR CALL THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANCE OF LOSS OF LIFE OR SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS MEDICAL ATTENTION. SO WE WANT TO STAY BELOW FOUR MINUTES FOR THAT.

OUR PRIORITY TWO, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY DELAYED CALLS, REPORT CALLS ARE SOMEWHERE WE WANT TO STAY BELOW SIX MINUTES.

SO WE'RE RIGHT WITHIN OUR TIME LIMITS. AND FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, EVERY MONTH WE'VE BEEN PRETTY GOOD AND STAYING STEADY AROUND THOSE TIMES.

YOU CAN SEE OUR TRAFFIC STOPS. AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ALREADY.

YOU CAN SEE THEY INCREASED 30% WHICH I THINK ALSO SIGNIFIES A LOT OF THOSE OTHER MEASURES THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

CALLS FOR SERVICE. WE'RE ON A STEADY RISE OF 3%.

EVEN LAST MONTH, WE WERE UP, UP 1%. SO WE CONTINUE TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THE AVERAGE TRAINING HOURS PER OFFICER. STATE MANDATES EVERY TWO YEARS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE 40 HOURS. AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'RE WELL OVER THAT.

AND I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT TO OUR OFFICERS AND THE ABILITY THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE TRAINING.

A TRAINED OFFICER HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE ON THE ROAD.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE TRY TO SPECIALIZE IN A LOT OF AREAS.

BEING A DETECTIVE OR BEING A PATROL OFFICER, THEY TRY TO SPECIALIZE. AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY KIND OF FTO TRAINING OR ACADEMY TRAINING.

COMMUNITY POLICING ACTIVITY IS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THOSE ARE OUR PARK AND WALKS, COMMUNITY SERVICE REPORTS, HOUSE CHECKS, RESIDENT AND BUSINESS CONTACTS.

AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF SYLVESTER. NOT HAVE TO STAY HERE AND WORK THIS THING FOR NOW.

SO, ACCOMPLISHMENTS CERTAINLY BOTH INTERNALLY IN THE ORGANIZATION AND OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE, AS WELL AS DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY THAT WE MAKE AVAILABLE TO OUR STAFF.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED LAST YEAR RELATIVE TO INFRASTRUCTURE IS OUR RADIO UPGRADES THAT, AS COUNCIL RECALLS, WE SPENT THREE YEARS SAVING THE FUNDING TO PURCHASE ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT.

WE FEEL THAT AT THIS PAST YEAR, AND IT CERTAINLY IS WORKING JUST AS IT SHOULD.

WE INSTITUTED SOME OTHER TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ITSELF RELATIVE TO HOW WE CAN WORK MAJOR CASE OPERATIONS.

WE INSTITUTED SOME TRANSPARENCY IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR WEB PAGE.

WE PUT ADDITIONAL POLICIES THAT GOVERN THE OPERATIONS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON OUR WEB PAGE, SO OUR PUBLIC CAN SEE HOW WE FUNCTION IN THE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE HELD TO.

ONE OF OUR YOUNG OFFICERS BROUGHT FORTH AN IDEA REGARDING INITIATING SOME AUTISM AWARENESS TRAINING FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF.

WE PARTNERED WITH A GROUP OUT OF MCKINNEY TO PROVIDE THIS TO US.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A CONTINUAL PART OF OUR TRAINING GOING FORWARD.

CERTAINLY, I BELIEVE WILL PAY DIVIDENDS GOING FORWARD ON HOW WE INTERACT WITH PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES SO THAT WE DON'T APPEAR TO BE THREATENING AND WE'RE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE PROPERLY THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

REALLY, OUR PARTNERSHIPS THIS PAST YEAR WERE ALL ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS.

DID I SAY PARTNERSHIPS? TWICE? OKAY. OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS WERE MOSTLY ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS THIS PAST YEAR.

WE INSTITUTED, AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE CODE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF.

AND IT ENABLES OUR VOLUNTEERS IN POLICING TO GO OUT AND IDENTIFY CERTAIN POTENTIAL CODE VIOLATIONS, DOCUMENT THOSE FOR OUR CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF TO FOLLOW UP WITH LATER, AND REALLY IS A AN EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENT AND HOW WE'RE ABLE TO BE PROACTIVE IN IDENTIFYING THESE POTENTIAL ISSUES AND SAVING TIME OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF SO THEY CAN GET RIGHT INTO CONTACT AND COMPLIANCE INITIATIVES WITHOUT UNDUE DELAY.

PARTNERING WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE EQUIPMENT OF ALL OF OUR PATROL VEHICLES WITH AEDS, SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE PRIOR, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT SAFETY MEASURE FOR OUR CITIZENS.

WE INSTITUTED A LIFE BACK PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS AN ANTI-CHOKING DEVICE THAT IS NOW PART OF OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES ROLLOUT PACKAGE IN OUR PATROL VEHICLES.

SO NOW ALL OF OUR PATROL VEHICLES HAVE LIFE VAX AEDS.

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SO MUCH MORE CAPABLE IN TERMS OF PROVIDING FIRST AID AS NECESSARY TO FOLKS THAT THAT WE MAY ARRIVE PRIOR TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST THEM IN THEIR DUTIES AS WELL. PARTNER WITH THE FIRE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ON CALL BOXES FOR HERITAGE PARK.

AND YES, I KNOW THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE HOW MANY FALSE ALARMS DO YOU GET? WE HAVE SOME HERE AND THERE, BUT I THINK THE BENEFIT FAR OUTWEIGHS THE INCONVENIENCE OF OUR STAFF HAVING TO CHECK THAT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

AND IT PROVIDES ANOTHER LAYER OF SAFETY FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE IN OUR PARK.

COLLIN COUNTY OR COLLIN COLLEGE POLICE ACADEMY PARTNERSHIP.

WE'RE NOW SENDING POLICE RECRUITS TO COLLIN COLLEGE, WHICH IS A TIME SAVINGS MEASURE FOR OUR RECRUITS THAT ARE GOING TO COLLIN COLLEGE VERSUS THE ACADEMY IN ARLINGTON.

ALTHOUGH FROM TIME TO TIME WE STILL MAY USE THE ARLINGTON ACADEMY AS WELL.

AND WE SENT LIEUTENANT DOOR TO A TWO MONTH LONG EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP COURSE AT THE INSTITUTE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION.

AND SERGEANT GOODING JUST GOODING JUST COMPLETED THAT COURSE IN THE EARLY FALL.

A ONE MONTH COURSE ON POLICE SUPERVISION. ALL RIGHT, STEPHEN, WHERE'S THE THING? OKAY. COMMUNITY OUTREACH INSTITUTED OUR SECOND CITIZEN'S POLICE ACADEMY AND VERY WELL ATTENDED.

YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF OUR ATTENDEES THERE.

I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A HALLMARK PROGRAM OF OUR AGENCY GOING FORWARD.

SEVERAL RAPE AGGRESSION DEFENSE CLASSES AND ACTIVE SHOOTER PREPAREDNESS CLASSES WERE DONE LAST YEAR, AND WE WILL CONTINUE THAT GOING FORWARD. A LOT OF POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM OUR ATTENDEES AT ALL OF THOSE CLASSES, AND OF COURSE, OUR LEGACY PROGRAMS, OUR COPS AND CAMPERS.

PUBLIC SAFETY DAY. NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK OUR SUMMER BICYCLE SAFETY PROGRAM THAT SERGEANT MALONEY HAS PUT TOGETHER AND HAD NUMEROUS KIDS AND EVEN A COUPLE OF DADS THAT CAME OUT TO ATTEND THAT SAFETY PROGRAM.

SO A BIG HIT, AND WE'RE GOING TO RECYCLE THAT AGAIN THIS NEXT YEAR, AS WELL AS OTHER SAFETY PROGRAMS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH ACTIVITIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AWARE WITH AND WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

AND OF COURSE, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO BRING THAT FORTH INTO FRUITION UNDER BUDGET ON TIME. I KEEP SAYING THAT. AND CERTAINLY, IT'S NOT ABOUT ME.

IT'S ABOUT ALL THE STAFF AT THE SHELTER. ASSISTANT CHIEF BAXTER, OUR CONTRACTORS, OUR ARCHITECTS THAT WORK VERY DILIGENTLY TO PROVIDE THE VISION OF THE COUNCIL INTO AN ANIMAL SHELTER THAT IS GOING TO SERVE OUR CITIZENS WELL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME. VOLUNTEERS IN POLICING. I COULD SPEND AN HOUR TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL VOLUNTEERS AND THEIR ACTS OF SERVICE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IN REALITY, THEY'RE PROVIDING TO ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.

THEY DO A WONDERFUL JOB DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND REALLY ALLOW FOR MORE DEVOTED TIME TO WHAT WE PAY OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR STAFF TO ACCOMPLISH. THAT ONLY THEY CAN DO.

AND SO WE THEY'RE DEFINITELY A VALUE ADD TO THE ORGANIZATION.

SERGEANT MERRYMAN OVERSEES THAT GROUP AND DOES A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THOSE FOLKS.

IN 2025 GOALS LEGACY PROGRAM, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO STOP PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO.

CERTAINLY, AT NO CHARGE. WE ALL THEY ALL PAY ENOUGH TAXES.

WE HAVE SOME POLICY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE ENACTING THIS YEAR THAT CAME OUT OF THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

IT'S REALLY MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE TASK FOR MYSELF AND MY ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP.

BUT THESE CERTAINLY REQUIRE SOME SPECIFIC POLICY UPGRADES AND PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS ON HOW WE CONDUCT SOME OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TASKS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH DE-ESCALATION AND PROCEDURAL JUSTICE.

REFRESHER. WE DO THAT EVERY OTHER YEAR. IT'S JUST A GOOD PRACTICE TO BE IN FOR CONTINUAL REMINDER OF THE IMPORTANCE OF DE-ESCALATION IN HOW WE CONDUCT OURSELVES LATER ON THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BRING FORWARD A FLAT CAMERA PROPOSAL.

CERTAINLY. THERE'S A LOT TO THAT. BUT I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR US AND A POTENTIAL GRANT THAT MAY HELP US WITH THIS.

AND WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IN THE MONTHS AHEAD.

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MORE DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ON THAT. BUT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT RIGHT NOW. SERGEANT MERRYMAN IS GOING TO BE ATTENDING THE ILIA SUPERVISION SCHOOL LATER ON THIS SUMMER.

I THINK IT'S. IS IT JUNE BRANT? WHERE ARE YOU? MAY 29TH. MAY. OKAY. THE FIRST PART OF JUNE. WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME REVISIONS TO OUR EVALUATION INSTRUMENT THAT IS SPECIFIC TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE WORKING WITH ESTHER ON ENHANCED COMMUNITY COMMUNICATION.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THAT. AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT BALL ROLLING.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A LOAD BEARING VEST WEAR TEST. AND I WANT TO INCLUDE A PICTURE SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST FROM OUR STAFF FOR ACQUISITION OF A LOAD BEARING VEST.

THIS MANY OF YOU KNOW OFFICER SMITH. HE IS ONE OF OUR WEAR TESTERS.

OFFICER ASHLIN MARTINEZ IS ONE OF OUR OTHER WEAR TESTERS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE WRAPPING THIS WEAR TEST UP AROUND THE END OF FEBRUARY, AND WE'LL BE HAVING DISCUSSION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH ACQUIRING THIS, WHAT ALL THE FUNDING WOULD REQUIRE RELATIVE TO THIS.

AND WITHIN THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY OTHER BUDGET APPROPRIATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THIS WITHIN OUR EXISTING BUDGET IF WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH IT.

SO THAT IS WHAT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN DOING THIS LAST YEAR AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON GOING FORWARD FOR 2025, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE.

DID OFFICER SMITH EAGERLY VOLUNTEER TO MODEL? HE EAGERLY DID, YES. HE WAS VOLUNTOLD. THANK YOU CHIEF.

THANK YOU, CHIEF BAXTER. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR COMMENTS? MR. PRESTENBERG? THANK YOU, CHIEF AND CHIEF. I ALWAYS APPRECIATE WHAT YOU AND YOUR FORCE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU ALL DO AND ACCOMPLISH YEAR IN, YEAR OUT.

SO, THESE STATS SHOW A LOT OF THAT. AND JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY TODAY.

FROM A THEFT STANDPOINT NOT NECESSARILY AUTO THEFT, BUT JUST THEFT IN GENERAL.

I KNOW YOU SAID A GOOD, VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE CAME FROM THE WALMART, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SHOPLIFTING TYPE THING.

ARE WE SEEING ANY? IT'S ALWAYS ON THE INTERNET ABOUT PORCH PIRATES AND STUFF.

ARE WE SEEING STUFF LIKE STUFF LIKE THAT HAPPENING IN OUR CITY? AND CAN YOU SPEAK IF THE PARKING SPACE, YOU KNOW, THE SAFE TRANSACTION SPACE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF THE POLICE STATION, IS THAT BEING UTILIZED OR WHATNOT? ALL VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. AND. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

OUR SAFE TRADE ZONES, OF WHICH WE HAVE TWO SPACES IN FRONT OF THE PD, AND I'LL GIVE A PLUG FOR IT NOW THAT ARE MONITORED BY CAMERA 24 OVER SEVEN.

YES, IT IS USED REGULARLY. I WILL TELL YOU MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK NOW, A LOT OF IT IS FOR CHILD CUSTODY TRANSFERS, WHICH WE SUPPORT. THOSE FOLKS DOING THAT.

THEY'RE, IT'S A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYONE. BUT WE I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN FOLKS OUT THERE SELLING GOODS, TRADING GOODS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY DEFINITELY MAKE USE OF IT.

AS FAR AS PORCH PIRATES ONCE IN A WHILE THIS PAST HOLIDAY SEASON, I THINK WE HAD MAYBE TWO, BUT IT'S NOT PROLIFIC, WHETHER IT BE ANY PARTICULAR SEASON MONTH.

IT'S NOT PROLIFIC IN OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. JUST A FEW MORE ON THESE STATISTICS ARE THIS IS, THIS JUST FOR ANYONE OVER 18.

SO IF ANY CRIME OR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS AT THE SCHOOL OR WHATNOT THAT'S UNDER 18, IT DOESN'T GET INCLUDED OR DOES IT GET INCLUDED? NO. THEY'RE INCLUDED. THEY ARE. OKAY. YES. ARE WE SEEING DOES IT MATTER FROM AN AGE GROUP STANDPOINT, OR IS IT JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SPORADIC ACROSS THE AGE START? I WILL SAY ANECDOTALLY THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR CRIME ARE COMMITTED BY ADULTS.

OKAY. JUVENILE CRIMES IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT YOU NORMALLY SEE RELATED TO JUVENILES OR THINGS THAT MAY OCCUR AT THE SCHOOL THAT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A CRIMINAL OFFENSE AND THEFTS IN GENERAL.

SHOPLIFTING, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT NOT PROLIFIC IN THE SENSE OF ANY TYPE OF

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GOOD DEAL. LET'S SEE THE LAST ONE. IT'S MORE OF A FOR NEXT YEAR.

WELL, WE HAVE STATS FOR, YOU KNOW, PUTTING HORSES AWAY BACK AT DIFFERENT PROPERTY AND DELIVERING UBER MILK OR NOT.

RIGHT. I DON'T THINK SO. BUT OFFICER SMITH IS MAKING A NAME FOR HIMSELF.

I TELL YOU WHAT, THAT WAS AWESOME. WITH THE VARIETY OF THINGS THAT HE'S GETTING INTO, HE IS A.

HE CERTAINLY EXEMPLIFIES THE TYPE OF OFFICER THAT OUR COMMUNITY EXPECTS AND DESIRES.

AND AS DO ALL THE REST OF OUR FOLKS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION AND THOSE THAT MIGHT BE HERE TONIGHT.

BUT I'M PROUD OF HOW THEY CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY ARE NOT SIMPLY POLICING THE COMMUNITY.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RANKED ON THE NEXT U.S.

NEWS WORLD REPORT, WHATEVER COMES OUT. I THINK WE WERE 8 OR 12 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT ONE POINT.

SO, I THINK THESE STATS JUST BARE THAT WE'RE A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

YEAH. CHIEF, JUST WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE THE VEHICLE BURGLARY STATISTIC.

I'M NOT ON THE BOOK OF TWO FACES, BUT MY WIFE IS.

AND SHE SHOWS ME LOTS OF COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE WERE BREAKING INTO MY CARS LAST NIGHT OR ON THE STREET, AND NOBODY BROKE INTO ANY CAR. THEY JUST LIFTED THE DOOR HANDLE AND OPENED IT UP.

AS YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, IF YOU HAVE A GUN AND KEEP IT IN YOUR CAR, TAKE IT OUT OF YOUR CAR AT NIGHT. I AGREE 100% IF THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU DO; BUT LOCK YOUR CAR. SIMPLE THING. SO I GET INTO ARGUMENTS WITH PEOPLE THAT CALL ME ABOUT THIS STATISTIC, IF YOU WILL, ABOUT. MY CAR WAS BROKEN INTO LAST NIGHT.

I WAS LIKE, OH, DID THEY SMASH A WINDOW? NO. OH, YOU DIDN'T LOCK YOUR CAR.

OKAY. SO THEY OPENED YOUR CAR. THEY DIDN'T BREAK INTO YOUR CAR.

OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE A RECURRING THEME THAT WE HAVE.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, THE VAST MAJORITY ARE LEFT UNLOCKED.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THAT WE PUT THAT MESSAGE OUT EVERY YEAR AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

YES, AND YES, SIR. MAYBE WE'LL CATCH ON EVENTUALLY.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO, CHIEF, WHAT YOU SAID. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OUT OF YOUR WHOLE PRESENTATION WAS WHAT YOU SAID AT THE END IS THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY ARE NOT SOMEONE TO BE FEARED IF YOU SEE THEM COMING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND YOU AND CHIEF BAXTER AND THE WHOLE STAFF HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN EMPHASIZING THAT THAT IT'S, I THINK, PROBABLY CAN'T BACK IT UP BY STATS. BUT I KNOW THAT'S WHY OUR CRIME IS NOT WHAT IT COULD BE BECAUSE OF OUR OFFICERS AND WHAT THEY DO IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE DID FEEL LIKE WE NEEDED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY.

WE CAN. AND I KNOW YOU SAID THIS MANY TIMES, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL THEM BECAUSE I'LL BOTHER THEM.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, NEVER BOTHER. YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE A BOTHER. SO IF YOU THINK IT'S NOTHING, I'D MUCH RATHER YOU CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MAKE SURE IT'S NOTHING.

AND YOU ALL DO A GREAT JOB IN COMMUNICATING THAT YOU ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS ALL THE TIME.

SO, APPRECIATE THAT, CHIEF. THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU, MAYOR. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM F ACTION ITEMS.

[1. Consider approving a revised list of comparator cities for the purpose of labor market benefits and compensation surveys.]

MISS NASH. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM TONIGHT BECAUSE WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR ACTION FROM YOU ALL RELATIVE TO WHAT OUR ULTIMATE LIST OF COMPARATOR CITIES SHOULD BE RELATIVE TO COMPENSATION OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND EVERYBODY'S QUEUING EVERYTHING UP HERE, BUT I HAVE HERE SARAH TOWN, WHO IS, MANAGER? WHO? PROJECT MANAGER WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US FROM BAKER TILLY.

AND SHE'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE WITH THE STUDY SO FAR AND THEN TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT WE'LL BE NEEDING FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT AND WHAT WE'LL BE DOING WITH NEXT STEPS. HAVE HR STAFF HERE READILY AVAILABLE ALSO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, MAYOR.

HELLO MISS TOWN. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INVITATION. AS WELL AS THE TIME TONIGHT TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS A CRITICAL STEP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION STUDY FOR THE CITY OF SACHSE. SO OUR GOAL TONIGHT IS REALLY TO BE ABLE TO FORMALIZE THE LIST OF PEER COMPARATORS THAT WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO AS PART OF THE MARKET STUDY.

I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. WE'RE ENGAGED IN A FIVE PHASE PROCESS.

YOU'VE HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUE JADA KENT WHO IS HERE TONIGHT ABOUT THE ENTIRE STUDY.

BUT I'M JUST GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON PHASE THREE, WHICH IS OUR MARKET ASSESSMENT PORTION.

SO WE'LL BE PARTNERING WITH YOU TO IDENTIFY COMPARABLE AND COMPETITIVE PEER ORGANIZATIONS TO INCLUDE IN THE STUDY.

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THEY MAY BE GEOGRAPHICALLY CLOSE TO YOU, BUT THEY MAY ALSO JUST BE EXPERIENCING SIMILAR ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES AND PATTERNS.

REALLY, WE LIKEN THE BEST PEER ORGANIZATION, THOUGH, IS THAT MOVEMENT OF EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE MARKET SPACE, WHO YOU'RE LOSING TALENT TO AND WHO YOU'RE GAINING THEM FROM.

THAT IS A REALLY GREAT COMPARATOR FOR THE PEER ORGANIZATION.

OUR GOAL IS TO IDENTIFY THOSE TEN OUT OF THE PRELIMINARY LIST OF 13 THAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED.

AND THEN THOSE TEN PUBLIC PEER ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE INCORPORATED WITH OUR THREE PUBLISHED SALARY SOURCES.

THAT'S WHAT'S REPRESENTING THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN OUR DATA SET.

SO, AS WE HAVE ANALOGOUS POSITIONS THAT ARE IN COMPETITION FOR TALENT WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED HERE IN THE DATA. SO, LIKE I SAID, BAKER TILLY PARTNERED WITH THE CITY LEADERSHIP DEPARTMENT HEADS TO CULTIVATE THIS LIST OF COMPARATOR PEER ORGANIZATIONS. SO, THIS WAS NOT BAKER TILLY COMING IN AND SAYING, THESE ARE YOUR LIST OF PEER ORGANIZATIONS.

WE START BY ASKING DEPARTMENT HEADS AND LEADERSHIP AND GETTING THEIR INPUT BECAUSE WHO YOU'RE IN COMPETITION FOR, TALENT WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE OFFICERS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHO YOU'RE IN COMPETITION FOR TALENT WHEN IT COMES TO BILLING SPECIALISTS, VERY DIFFERENT MARKETPLACES. AND SO WE WANT TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING FROM THE LOCAL TALENT OF WHO IS A GOOD COMPARATOR.

SO LEADERSHIP COMPLETED DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR QUESTIONNAIRES.

AND THEN THAT GENERATED AN INITIAL LIST OF 28 PUBLIC PEER ORGANIZATIONS.

FROM THERE USING DEMOGRAPHIC AND ECONOMIC INDICATORS, THAT LIST WAS NARROWED.

SO, I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE WE KIND OF GET INTO THIS NEXT SECTION, AND I SHOW YOU THAT PRELIMINARY LIST.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX HAS EXPERIENCED SOME SIGNIFICANT GROWTH AND CHANGE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THE REGIONAL LABOR MARKET IS CHANGING AS WELL.

YOUR PREVIOUS LIST OF WHO YOU USED MAY NO LONGER BE RELEVANT AS A RESULT OF THIS SIGNIFICANT GROWTH AND CHANGE IN THE AREA.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO USE A DATA DRIVEN PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND WHO ARE YOUR TRUE COMPARATORS NOW? WHO SHOULD YOU BE LOOKING AT? AND REALLY, OUR GOAL IS THEN TO PLACE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK THAT WE ARE AWARE OF, THOSE ASPIRATIONAL PEERS, ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TOWARDS IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THEIR RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION EFFORTS THAT ARE IDEAL, THAT YOU WANT TO ASPIRATIONALLY FOCUS ON, BUT YOU'RE ALSO VERY AWARE OF THE DIRECT COMPETITORS, THOSE THAT ARE STEALING YOUR TALENT.

NOW, TODAY, AS WELL AS THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE ON THE GROWTH AND IN THE RISE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PLACING SACHSE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE, CULTIVATING A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT THIS MARKET LOOKS LIKE.

AND SO THAT IS OUR PROCESS OF BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND LOOK AT THESE ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC INDICATORS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE POPULATION SIZE, GEOGRAPHIC DIFFERENCE OF LABOR, GENERAL REVENUE FUND, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, OTHER ECONOMIC CONDITIONS AS WELL.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON TONIGHT, IS GETTING DOWN FROM THIS LIST OF INITIAL 13 TO CHOOSING A FINAL LIST OF TEN.

SO THESE ARE THE PRELIMINARY LIST OF 13 PIERS.

AGAIN THESE WERE GENERATED FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS INITIALLY AND THEN NARROWED DOWN USING THOSE ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC INDICATORS USING THE PROJECT TEAM.

SO OUR PROPOSED PIER ORGANIZATIONS, OUR PRELIMINARY LIST OF 13 INCLUDE RICHARDSON, GARLAND, FARMERS BRANCH, ROWLETT, WYLIE, THE COLONY, ROCKWELL, ALLEN, ANNA, PRINCETON, SALINA MURPHY, AND ROYSE CITY. BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NARROWING OF THIS LIST, BECAUSE I DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH THE DEMOGRAPHIC AND ECONOMIC INDICATORS THAT WE LOOKED AT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN HELP ANSWER ABOUT? INITIALLY, OUR PROCESS AND HOW THIS THIS LIST WAS DEVELOPED.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT. YOU GUYS ARE READY FOR THE DATA. LET'S SEE THE DATA THEN. SO OUR FIRST INDICATOR IS LOOKING AT IT.

TURNOVER COMPETITORS. THESE ARE ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE STEALING YOUR TALENT.

NOW USING TURNOVER DATA PROVIDED FROM THE LAST THREE YEARS FROM THE CITY OF SACHSE, WE LOOKED AT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD MULTIPLE MENTIONS OF EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE LEFT TO GO TO THESE ENTITIES. SIX OUT OF THAT LIST ARRIVE AT MULTIPLE MENTIONS.

WILEY, GARLAND, RICHARDSON, ALLEN, ROCKWELL, AND ROYSE CITY.

MULTIPLE MENTIONS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT ARE DIRECTLY PULLING YOUR CURRENT TALENT POOL.

THAT'S A GOOD INDICATOR FOR US OF WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF YOUR CURRENT COMPETITORS.

THAT MOVEMENT OF EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE WITHIN THE MARKET SPACE IS A GOOD INDICATOR. NEXT WE LOOK AT COMPARING BY POPULATION.

SO THIS IS BASED OFF OF JULY 2023 ESTIMATES USING THE UNITED STATES CENSUS BUREAU DATA.

ON AVERAGE, WE HAVE THE POPULATION FOR THE 13 COMPARATORS IS RIGHT AROUND 66,000.

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BUT OUT OF THE 13 PEER COMPETITORS, SACHSE IS ABOUT FIFTH FROM THE BOTTOM.

TOTAL POPULATION OF 32,924. NEXT WE COMPARE BY INCOME MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

THIS IS AGAIN USING THE SAME DATA FROM THE UNITED STATES CENSUS BUREAU.

AVERAGE MEDIAN HOME INCOME. HOUSEHOLD INCOME FOR ACROSS THESE 13 PEER ORGANIZATIONS IS $114,000.

SACHSE IS SITTING SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF THAT. CURRENT MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME FOR THE CITY IS 130,000, WHICH PUTS YOU IN THE TOP THREE OF THIS LIST.

COMPARING BY GENERAL FUND SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT REVENUE.

BUT THIS IS LOOKING AT WHERE SACHSE FALLS AGAIN ON THAT LIST.

IF OUR GOAL IS TO PLACE YOU SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE AWARE OF.

SO THIS IS PLACING SACHSE CURRENT GENERAL FUND AT $29.8 MILLION IN THE BOTTOM FIVE OF THESE PEER COMPARATORS.

COMPARING LOOKING AT FULL TIME NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES OR THE FULL TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS.

WE HAVE SACHSE WITH 188 FULL TIME POSITIONS. AVERAGE FOR THIS GROUP IS 399.

AGAIN, INFLUENCED BY THE INCLUSION OF RICHARDSON AND GARLAND IN THIS THIS DATA.

BUT LOOKING ACROSS THESE 13 PEER ORGANIZATIONS.

SACHSE IS IN THE BOTTOM FOUR OF HAVING THE LOWEST FULL TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS.

THE NEXT 1ST MAY BE NEW. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT UNDERSTANDING COST OF LABOR.

I'LL GIVE YOU SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THESE FIGURES COME FROM.

SO THIS DATA COMES FROM THE ECONOMIC RESEARCH INSTITUTE, WHICH HAS A GEOGRAPHIC ASSESSOR TOOL WHICH ALLOWS US TO DRILL INTO A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA AND UNDERSTAND COST OF LABOR. THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN COST OF LIVING.

MOST FOLKS UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WHAT COST OF LIVING IS.

IT'S ABOUT. IT'S THE AMOUNT OF GOODS AND SERVICES IN A GIVEN GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

AND IT'S WHY EGG PRICES ARE GOING UP OR WHY GAS IS EXPENSIVE.

HOUSING PRICES ARE HIGH. THAT'S GOODS AND SERVICES.

THE COST OF LIVING IN A GIVEN AREA. WHAT WE LOOK AT IS THE COST OF LABOR, WHICH IS IMPACTED BY THE COST OF LIVING.

THERE'S A PREMIUM PUT ON PLACES WITH HIGHER COST OF LIVING.

BUT WHAT THIS IS MAINLY INFLUENCED BY THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND OF LABOR IN A GIVEN GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

IT'S THE RATE OF UNEMPLOYMENT, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF QUALIFIED LABORERS TO FILL VACANT POSITIONS.

SO AGAIN, THIS DATA COMES FROM THE ECONOMIC RESEARCH INSTITUTE WITH THEIR GEOGRAPHIC ASSESSOR TOOL.

YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP THERE AXES. COST OF LABOR AS OF JANUARY, THE END OF JANUARY WAS 104.1.

THAT'S OFF OF A SCALE OF 100. THE UNITED STATES AVERAGE BEING 100.

SO YOU'RE ABOUT 4% HIGHER THAN THE UNITED STATES NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR COST OF LABOR.

WE TAKE THAT SAME INDICATOR FOR EACH OF THE PEER ORGANIZATIONS.

SO, WE THEN HAVE THIS RANKING. SACHSE IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THESE 13 PEER ORGANIZATIONS.

YOU HAVE THE SECOND HIGHEST COST OF LABOR IN THE AREA MEANS COST OF LABOR MEANS UNEMPLOYMENT MAY BE LOW.

NUMBER OF QUALIFIED LABORERS MAY ALSO BE LOW, WHICH MEANS YOUR COST OF LABOR CAN BE HIGH.

WE TAKE THAT SAME INDICATOR FOR EACH OF THE PEER ORGANIZATIONS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT ALLOWS US TO DO A STANDARDIZATION.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE PEER ORGANIZATIONS, WE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WE'RE ADJUSTING THE DATA EITHER UP OR DOWN RELATIVE TO COST OF LABOR.

FOR REFERENCE, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED LIST OF PEER ORGANIZATIONS.

I DID WANT TO SHOW YOU YOUR CURRENT PEER LIST.

SO THE CURRENT PEER LIST, THIS IS THE LIST OF 11 THAT THE CITY OF SACHSE HAS PREVIOUSLY REACHED OUT TO AS PART OF MARKET C COST OF LABOR ON THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT. WE TRIED TO GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER HERE AND UNDERSTANDING COMPARATIVE PEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SIMILAR IN TERMS OF COST OF LABOR, COST OF LIVING AS WELL AS THE FULL DEMOGRAPHIC INDICATORS, GOOD INDICATION THAT REALLY JUST BASED OFF OF THE CURRENT DATA, SOME OF THESE PEER ORGANIZATIONS MAY NO LONGER BE RELEVANT TO YOU.

SO OUR GOAL IN THIS PROCESS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A PREVIEW OF, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHEN WE'RE SELECTING OUR PEER ORGANIZATIONS, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN DETERMINING YOUR COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY.

BUT WE CAN'T AUTOMATICALLY SKIP TO THE END AND START UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS THIS GOING TO COST.

ARE WE SETTING A SETTING A THRESHOLD AND UNDERSTANDING OUR POSITIONING IN MARKET.

NONE OF THAT IS OCCURRING RIGHT NOW. THIS IS JUST UNDERSTANDING WHO YOU WANT TO COMPARE YOURSELVES TO NOW, BASED OFF OF THE CURRENT REALITIES OF YOUR WORKFORCE, BUT ALSO WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE.

FROM THERE, WE WILL THEN GO OUT TO THE MARKET, OBTAIN THAT DATA, AND THEN START TO DETERMINE WHAT IS OUR POSITIONING IN MARKET.

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AND WE'RE UNDERSTANDING WHERE IS THE MARKET MIDPOINT, THAT HALFWAY POINT BETWEEN THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM.

THAT'S WHEN SOMEBODY IS FULLY PROFICIENT IN THE ROLE.

MIDPOINT IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE MARKET VALUE FOR A POSITION.

IF WE ALIGN YOUR MIDPOINT TO THE MARKET MIDPOINT, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A MARKET MATCH PHILOSOPHY.

IT'S MEANING WHATEVER MARKET IS SAYING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALIGNING YOUR POSITIONS AS WELL.

IF WE TAKE YOUR MIDPOINT AND SHIFT THEM SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF THE MARKET MIDPOINT, THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK AT IN TERMS OF A LEAD MARKET PHILOSOPHY.

LIKEWISE, ORGANIZATIONS MAY STRATEGICALLY LAG IF THEIR MIDPOINTS ARE SLIGHTLY BEHIND MARKET.

THIS IS A LAG MARKET PHILOSOPHY. TODAY, WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU TO DETERMINE YOUR COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY.

WE HAVEN'T COLLECTED MARKET DATA YET. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE PAYING ON AVERAGE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OUT TO GATHER. BUT FIRST WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHO ARE THESE PEER ORGANIZATIONS.

SO AGAIN, I'LL REMIND YOU OF OUR TASK TONIGHT, WHICH IS WE NEED TO SELECT TEN ORGANIZATIONS.

I HAVE A PRELIMINARY LIST OF 13 IN FRONT OF YOU.

I DO HAVE SOME POINTED QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY ALL HAVE AS WELL.

BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL BECAUSE I WANT TO HELP GUIDE YOU IN THIS CONVERSATION.

MR. PRESTENBERG. YES. HEY, THANK YOU FOR THIS IS FASCINATING STUFF.

JUST REAL QUICK ON THIS LIST. SURE. THIS IS NOT RANK ORDERED BY YOU.

IT'S JUST LISTED. RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S NO RANKING ORDER HERE.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. GREAT QUESTION. IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN CARRY ON A LITTLE BIT AND THEN.

ALL RIGHT SO MY FIRST QUESTIONS BEFORE WE WHILE WE START NARROWING THIS DOWN LOOKING AT THIS INITIAL LIST AND I'M HAPPY TO FLIP BACK TO ANY OF THE SLIDES IF YOU WANT FURTHER INFORMATION OR REVIEW OF WHAT I PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED.

BUT ARE THERE INITIAL CITIES ON THIS LIST THAT ARE ABSOLUTE YESES FOR YOU THAT ARE STRONG AND ESSENTIAL FOR COMPARISON FOR THE CITY OF SACHSE BEFORE WE DO THAT, MR. MILLSAP, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

SURE. ON YOUR SALARY COMPARISONS COMPARING INCOME.

NOT SALARY INCOME. THAT'S CORRECT. IT SHOWS SACHSE AS 130,000.

OUR EDC WEBSITE SHOWS 140. HAVE WE GONE DOWN? SO, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE 140 IS. THIS IS BASED OFF OF JULY 2023 ESTIMATES USING THE UNITED STATES CENSUS BUREAU.

SO IF WHAT YOU HAVE IS MORE RECENT THAN THAT, I WOULD SAY YES.

AND ALSO, IN YOUR FULL TIME EMPLOYEE LIST? YES.

PER CITY, HOW DO WE RANK IN FULL TIME EMPLOYEES PER RESIDENT? IN OTHER WORDS, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYEE SERVICES? HOW MANY RESIDENTS? IS THERE A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OR ARE WE WAY ABOVE OR WAY BELOW, OR HAVE WE DID THAT COMPARISON DO THAT TYPE OF A COMPARISON? WE DIDN'T CONSIDER THEM AS A RATIO.

WE JUST HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE FULL TIME NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WHICH IS LISTED HERE.

BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE BY POPULATION. SO ROUGHLY LOOKING AT THE SIMILAR IN COMPARISON, YOU'RE ABOUT FIFTH FROM THE BOTTOM IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. YOU'RE ALSO ABOUT FIFTH FROM THE BOTTOM IN TERMS OF POPULATION.

OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT THOSE ARE FAIRLY RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE THE STATISTICS TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES PER POPULATION OR RESIDENTS. AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS, AS WE ALL KNOW, SACHSE IS LIMITED IN SIZE.

WE CAN'T GET ANY BIGGER. WE'RE GETTING FILLED UP.

WE CAN'T GROW MUCH MORE. AND SOME OF THESE CITIES ARE ALREADY TEN TIMES BIGGER THAN WE ARE AND STILL HAVE 40 TO 50% OF THEIR AREA TO GROW CAPACITY. AND I PERSONALLY DON'T FEEL THAT'S A GOOD COMPARISON TO US.

AND BUT I DON'T SEE SOME CITIES IN HERE IN THE COMMUNITY METROPLEX AREA AS AN EXAMPLE.

I KNOW IT'S GOING TO SOUR NOTE, BUT BOX SPRINGS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

THERE ARE ONLY NINE SQUARE MILES. WE'RE ONLY 9.9.

THEY CAN'T GET ANY BIGGER. WE CAN'T GET ANY BIGGER.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CITIES IN OUR COMPARISON STUDY THAT IS LIMITED IN GROWTH POTENTIAL, BECAUSE THIS STUDY IS GOING TO MAKE SOME MANAGEMENT DECISIONS.

IS GOING TO BE USED FOR MANAGEMENT DECISIONS FOR A FEW YEARS TO GO, MAYBE FIVE YEARS.

WE DO ANOTHER 1 IN 5 YEARS, I THINK IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

SO, I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE REALISTIC IN THE CITIES WE'RE COMPARING OURSELVES WITH, AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MORE LIMITED THAN MANY OF MOST OF THESE CITIES ARE ON THIS LIST, SO WAY MORE THAN 2 OR 3.

AND WE'RE GOING TO NARROW FROM 13 DOWN TO TEN.

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AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A TRUE COMPARISON IF WE DON'T START LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

YEAH, THOSE ARE GREAT COMMENTS. AND IF YOU MIGHT ALL REPLY TO A HANDFUL OF THEM, BECAUSE IT IS A GOAL OF OURS TO BE ABLE TO SELECT THE FINAL LIST OF TEN.

GROWTH IN TERMS OF AREA IS NOT WHAT WE LOOK AT IN TERMS OF A GROWTH OF AN ORGANIZATION, ESPECIALLY FOR THE DEMAND OF SERVICES FROM A LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

SO OUR GOAL IS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THESE ORGANIZATIONS, WE INITIALLY STARTED WITH A LIST OF 28.

I DO NOT REMEMBER THE BOX ONE THAT YOU SPECIFIED THAT WAS NOT ON THAT LIST OF INITIAL 28.

BUT WHAT WE DID LOOK AT WAS THOSE GROWTH PATTERNS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN TERMS OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE REACHED THEIR CAPACITY FOR GROWTH, THAT HAVE LEVELED OUT. SOME OF THOSE ARE ON THIS LIST.

AND SO WHILE THEY MAY BE LARGER IN TERMS OF AREA, SIZE OR EVEN POPULATION, EVEN NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, THEIR GROWTH RATES ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR. SO THIS IS A DATA DRIVEN PROCESS.

THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY LOOKING AT SOME OF THAT, THOSE COMPONENTS.

AS WE NARROWED THIS LIST DOWN, IT'S JUST THAT THOSE CITIES THAT ARE GROWTH RATE MAY BE SIMILAR, BUT WHEN WE GET FULL, OUR GROWTH RATE IS GOING TO TAKE AN ABRUPT, ABRUPT DOWNTURN.

AND THESE COMPARATOR CITIES WON'T BE TAKING AN ABRUPT DOWNTURN.

SO, IT'S NOT A FAIR COMPARISON FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO JUST USE THAT AS A DECISION MAKING FOR TODAY.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE THIS DATA FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REALISTIC FOR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO, OUR GOAL IS NOT TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE LIST OF PEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT NEED TO EXIST IN THE ORGANIZATION FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AS WELL. THIS IS THE LIST OF PROPOSED PEER ORGANIZATIONS FOR THIS YEAR'S MARKET ASSESSMENT.

AND AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS EXPERIENCED AS MUCH GROWTH IN THE AREA AS YOU HAVE, YOU SHOULD BE REGULARLY LOOKING AT YOUR PEER ORGANIZATIONS, ASSESSING THEM ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PROJECT OUT TEN YEARS WHAT THOSE PEER COMPARATORS ARE GOING TO BE, EVEN IN FIVE YEARS. I MEAN, IT'S 2025. HAD WE KNOWN WHAT WAS COMING IN 2020, I THINK WE WOULD MAKE SOME DIFFERENT DECISIONS.

AND SO OUR GOAL IS REALLY JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT ARE THE PEER ORGANIZATIONS CURRENTLY.

SO WE CAN CAPTURE SOME BRAND NEW MARKET DATA AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS BASED OFF OF TODAY'S INFORMATION.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS GIVES YOU THE START. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ASSESSED ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS.

IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE NEXT YEAR OR IN TWO YEARS, YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE THAT FREEDOM AND FLEXIBILITY. I JUST WANT TO ADD MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED DURING THIS PROCESS WITH BAKER TILLY IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE DYNAMIC GROWTH NATURE OF THE DFW MARKET, WE SIMPLY CANNOT LOOK AT CHANGING PEER CITIES EVERY FIVE YEARS.

IT'S NOT OFTEN ENOUGH AND THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT REALLY PAYING MIND TO IT AT LEAST EVERY TWO YEARS, IF NOT MORE, MORE OFTEN THAN THAT. SOME OF THE CITIES THAT YOU SEE ON THIS LIST, FOR EXAMPLE, WILL PROBABLY WILL MOST DEFINITELY NOT BE ON THE LIST IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

ANNA, PRINCETON, SALINA. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE INCREDIBLE GROWTH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT AS SARAH POINTED OUT, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CHOOSING CITIES THAT ARE REALLY AT A GROWTH TRAJECTORY OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS IN TWO YEARS, WE KNOW THAT THOSE CITIES WILL LIKELY FALL OFF AND THERE'LL BE ANOTHER SET OF CITIES ON HERE. ONE OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WAS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT BAKER TILLY HAS WORKED WITH OVER THE UNITED STATES, THEY'RE NOT SEEING AS MUCH OF THE DRAMATIC GROWTH AS WE'RE SEEING HERE IN NORTH TEXAS.

SO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE APPROACH IN TERMS OF HOW WE LOOK AT OUR COMPETITORS, AND THAT THOSE ARE GOING TO CHANGE A LOT MORE FREQUENTLY.

ABSOLUTELY [INAUDIBLE]. TO GET BACK TO THE POINT OF YOUR QUESTION, I THINK YOU ASKED US IS WHICH CITIES DID WE WANT ON THIS LIST? WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL? WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL? I WOULD ASSUME ARE PROBABLY ALL OF US COULD AGREE THAT OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS OF WYLIE, MURPHY, GARLAND, ROWLETT ARE HAVE TO HAVES. I'M GOING TO I DON'T THINK WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, BUT I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ALL KIND OF IN THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A SURPRISE. I THINK IT GETS KIND OF.

WELL, YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING WITH THAT. SO THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY. YES. AND MISS HOWARTH MADE A GOOD POINT, IS THAT TONIGHT, AS MISS THOMAS SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF DATA POINTS THAT THEY'VE LOOKED AT AND MORE DATA POINTS THAT YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT BASED ON DECISIONS WE MAKE TONIGHT.

SO THIS IS A INTERMEDIATE STEP, IF YOU WILL, TO GET US TO THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS.

AND SO IF YOU'LL JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND I THINK THAT WILL HELP MR. PRESTENBERG. YES. THANK YOU. JUST GOING OFF THESE 13 AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR TEN.

SO, I'LL GIVE YOU THREE THAT I THINK SHOULD BE REMOVED. OKAY.

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MAYBE WHEN MY GRANDPARENTS MOVED THERE 80 YEARS AGO.

BUT GARLAND AND RICHARDSON, I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE UNPOPULAR, BUT THE SIZE OF THOSE CITIES AND YEAH, I JUST I DON'T THINK WE'RE. IT'S A GREAT COMPARISON.

ALTHOUGH I DON'T HIDE THE FACT THAT WE MIGHT BE LOSING PERSONNEL TO THAT.

THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY THEY ARE ON THIS LIST, JUST THE SIZE AND WHATNOT.

SO DEFINITELY OPEN FOR, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK AND DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT LOCKED IN THOSE. I WOULD SAY ALAN WOULD BE THE ONE THAT I'M DEFINITELY LOCKED INTO. BUT LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL HAS TO SAY.

MISS HOWARTH. SHE DIDN'T ASK US FOR THAT YET.

I THOUGHT YOU DID. THE FIRST QUESTION IS, WHICH ARE DEFINITE YESES? ALL GOOD, BUT I GOT SOME LIST OF THREE THAT ARE IN CONTENTION.

DO YOU WANT THE ONES WE OUR LAST THREE, OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? I WOULD LOVE THE WHAT ARE DEFINITE YESES FIRST.

OKAY, THEN I GOT THE WILDLY WRONG. WELL, WELL, I THINK BY MAYBE I'M MISSING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK WE GOT 13 ON THE LIST, RIGHT? SO NOT GREAT AT MATH.

BUT IF I GIVE YOU A LIST OF SAYING THE THREE I DON'T WANT ON THERE, THAT STILL GETS US A TEN, RIGHT? WELL, FOR YOU. BUT THEN BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HIS THREE VERSUS HER THREE, THAT IS ALWAYS THE FUN PART.

SO BEING ABLE TO HAVE CONSENSUS OVER WHO'S FIRST RIGHT.

ABSOLUTE YESES. AND THEN WE CAN GO TO THE OKAY.

AND BY DEFAULT, IF I GIVE YOU AGAIN, I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR ME.

BUT IF I GIVE YOU THE THREE, I DON'T WANT ON THERE, THEN BY DEFAULT THERE'S THE REST OF THE TEN ARE OKAY.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. ANYWAY. THAT'S ME.

MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS. WELL, I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU ASKED, NOT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS YOU WANT TO HEAR BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR THE TOP TEN.

YOU ASKED FOR THE MUSTS OR THE DEFINITES? DEFINITELY.

THE MURPHY, THE WYLIE, AND PROBABLY THE CITY I THINK IS THE MOST SIMILAR INTO OUR GROWTH WOULD BE MAYBE ROYSE CITY. THAT'D BE MY THREE. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT FROM ME RIGHT NOW? THAT'S HELPFUL.

THANK YOU. THAT'S HOW YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS? YES.

I'LL BE THE JUDGE OF THAT. MR. PRESTENBERG. SO I'D LIKE TO REDO MY HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT.

SURE. SO THE FOUR THAT I HAD WRITTEN DEFINITELY WERE MURPHY, WYLIE, ROYSE CITY AND PRINCETON.

THOSE FOUR. OKAY. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A PAUSE IN THE QUESTIONING. SO WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER'S CARD.

SO LET ME GET TO THAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE YOU COME BACK UP.

MARTY HILBERT, ARE YOU DONE TALKING ABOUT THIS? NOT NECESSARILY. COME BACK LATER. NO. BUT YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THE END.

CAN I COME BACK OR WHAT? YOU CAN WAIT. YOU ONLY GET ONE SHOT.

YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THE END? I'LL WAIT TILL THE END. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

BACK TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHICH OF THESE STAND OUT IN TERMS OF OUTLIERS AND SPECIFIC INDICATORS THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING AS OUTLIERS.

I'VE HEARD FROM PRESTENBERG OF SIZE. WHAT ELSE? I DO HAVE QUESTIONS. MR. LINDSEY, I CONTINUE MY HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FROM QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

SO, THE THREE THERE THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, MY INHERENT TOPICS ARE THE ONES THAT THAT ARE OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO, THAT GIVES US WYLIE, MURPHY AND ROWLETTE ON THERE.

THE OUTLIERS I KIND OF SEE THE COLONY AS AN OUTLIER.

THEY'VE GOT GRANDSCAPE UP THERE. IT'S EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD HAVE DREAMED ABOUT HAVING ON GEORGE BUSH TO BE A CASH COW TO OUR CITY AND BUILD THE MAGNIFICENT FIRE STATION AND ALL THE OTHER GREAT STUFF THAT THEY'VE GOT GOING ON IN THE COLONY. BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEIR TOURISM AND OTHER FACTORS THERE THAT THEY'VE GOT GOING FOR THEM IS GOING TO GIVE THEM A MUCH LARGER TAX BASE AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENTERTAIN AT THEIR LEVELS.

THAT IS HELPFUL. THANK YOU, MR. MILLSAP. I GUESS I WAITED TOO LATE, BUT BACK TO YOUR MUST HAVE CITIES.

I DON'T WANT THEM, BUT I THINK GARLAND IS ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE.

AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR INCOME COMPARATORS, THEY ARE THE LOWEST ON THE LIST.

WE'RE IF YOU LOOK AT LOOK AT WHAT THE EDC IS SHOWING ON OUR PUBLIC MARKETING, WE'RE 140.

WE'RE DOUBLE THEIR INCOME. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY OUR EMPLOYEES ARE LEAVING HERE.

GOING TO THEIR WHAT ARE THEY OFFERING IT THAT WE AREN'T OFFERING? IT CAN'T JUST BE SALARY. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT.

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SO I THINK WE NEED TO START THINKING IN THAT DEMOGRAPHICS, TOO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST DOLLARS PEOPLE DON'T NORMALLY LEAVE.

IF WE'RE MAKING A LIVING, LIVABLE SALARY, PEOPLE DON'T NORMALLY LEAVE JUST FOR MONEY.

THERE'S SOME OTHER REASON. ABSOLUTELY. I AGREE WITH THAT.

I CAN ADDRESS THAT. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING FOR GARLAND.

TYPICALLY, IT IS FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIFFERENT TYPE OF WORK THAN WE OFFER.

CERTAINLY. IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE HAD FOLKS LEAVE BECAUSE THEY WANT DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, SWAT, TACTICAL THINGS. WE JUST DON'T WE DON'T OFFER HERE.

AND SO I DON'T THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY I MEAN, SOME OF IT COULD BE MONEY, BUT I THINK FROM MY EXPERIENCE HERE, OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, IT'S BEEN FOLKS LEAVING FOR OPPORTUNITIES WE CAN'T PROVIDE.

MRS. HOWARTH. OKAY. SO IF IT'S PART TWO OF THE QUESTION OF WHO ARE OUTLIERS ON THIS LIST THAT I DON'T LIKE TO SEE ON THAT LIST? ALAN. I KNOW WE LOSE PEOPLE TO THEM REGULARLY, BUT THEY'VE GOT FEROCIOUSLY DEEP POCKETS COMPARED TO US.

THE COLONY SOUGHT THE SAME REASON FAR AWAY, AND POCKETS THAT WE WILL NEVER HAVE THEIR BUCKET OF CASH IS IMMENSE COMPARED TO OURS.

AND SALINA ONLY IN THAT IN THE TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING, THEY'VE PROBABLY MADE MORE REVENUE THAN WE HAVE.

THEIR GROWTH IS JUST I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT DATA POINT, BUT SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN, IT MAY BE RELEVANT TONIGHT, BUT IT WON'T BE RELEVANT TOMORROW BECAUSE OF THEIR GROWTH RATE BEING PRACTICALLY VERTICAL.

BUT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY THREE TAKE OFFS. IF IT WAS ME, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

THANK YOU. I DON'T WANT TO SEE GARLAND IN THERE.

WE COULD ALL DISAGREE ON EVERY CATEGORY. WE WOULD DISAGREE DIFFERENTLY FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

ON EVERY CATEGORY YOU PRESENTED. GARLAND RICHARDSON.

THEY HAVE A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL TAX BASE THAN WE DO.

I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE WHEN YOU COMPARE TO WHEN YOU MAKE COMPARATIVE CITIES, JUST FROM A BUDGETING AND REVENUE STANDPOINT.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT I DON'T LIKE, BUT SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THAT.

SO LET'S KEEP TALKING. DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON ALAN? THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONSENSUS GOING AROUND ALAN SO FAR, SO I'M GETTING YOUR THOUGHTS AS WELL ON THAT ONE.

THAT WASN'T ONE THAT YOU MENTIONED. I'M OKAY WITH IT OKAY.

THANK YOU. WITH OKAY WITH ALAN BEING INCLUDED.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I DIDN'T EXCLUDE THEM. OKAY.

SO, IN AND OUT, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, JUST TO CLARIFY THE ONES, I'LL DO THE OUTS FIRST.

PRINCETON, SALINA AND ANNA, FOR THE REASONS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ON THIS LIST.

THEY MAY BE ON THIS LIST THIS TIME, BUT THEY WON'T BE ON NEXT TIME BASED ON THEIR GROWTH AS FAR AS THE END.

AND MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS SAID IT. WELL, WE'RE NOT ALL GOING TO AGREE ON OUR THREE INS, THREE OUTS, BUT I THINK FOR ME IT SHOULD BE WYLIE, IT SHOULD BE WORTH CITY, AND IT SHOULD BE GARLAND.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE AS OUR LIST SAW THAT OUR TURNOVER COMPARATORS YOU KNOW, GARLAND IS A COMPETITOR CITY, NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO US, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BIGGER CITY. THEY OFFER SOME THINGS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE POLICE, THEY OFFER SOME THINGS TO POLICE THAT WE DON'T. BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE OF EVERY DEPARTMENT. SO, IF WE'RE LOSING EMPLOYEES TO THOSE CITIES, THEN, AS MISS NASH MENTIONED, THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT.

IT'S NOT JUST MONEY. SO FOR ME, THOSE ARE MY INS AND OUTS, IF YOU WILL.

SO, MISS HOWARTH A PHILOSOPHICAL, PHILOSOPHICAL POINT ABOUT RICHARDSON.

NEITHER GARLAND NOR RICHARDSON ARE HIGH GROWTH RIGHT THERE.

THEY'RE DONE GROWING. CORRECT. PHILOSOPHICALLY, I WOULD RATHER US BE MORE LIKE RICHARDSON AND HOW THEY'VE HANDLED THE END OF THEIR GROWTH AND THE AND THE MAINTAINING OF THEIR SERVICES AND THE MAINTAINING OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS, ARE DOING WELL. SO I WOULD THAT WOULD BE MY ARGUMENT FOR KEEPING RICHARDSON.

IT MIGHT ALSO BE MY SAME PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT OF BEING OKAY AT LOSING GARLAND, BUT THEY ARE AN IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR.

I MEAN, I CAN HIT GARLAND WITH A SPITBALL FROM MY FRONT DOOR.

SO WELL, RICHARDSON TO RICHARDSON, TOO, AND MURPHY.

BUT YEAH, PHILOSOPHICALLY, I'M NOT GOING TO BE CRYING ABOUT ANY OF IT, BUT YEAH, I COULD EASILY SWITCH OUT ON MINE.

YOU KNOW, GARLAND IS ONE OF MINE, BUT I COULD EASILY SWITCH IT WITH RICHARDSON. YEP. OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MISS TOWN, WHERE ARE WE AT? WELL, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START MARKING OFF OUR.

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NOBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT FARMERS BRANCH, TEXAS SO FAR, WHICH MEANS EVERYBODY'S KIND OF, OKAY, LUKEWARM FEELING ABOUT THAT ONE. SO WE DON'T HAVE STRONG FEELINGS, WHICH IS WHY I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IT IN CONVERSATION.

AND THEN THEN THERE SEEMS TO BE THE TRENDS AS WELL, WITH SALINA, ANNA KNOWING THAT THOSE ARE GROWING COMMUNITIES.

IF WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH INCLUDING THEM NOW, KNOWING THEY WON'T BE INCLUDED FOREVER IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE.

WELL, MY QUICK COMMENT. SO, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT TO THE ONE PERSON THAT SAID ABSOLUTELY NOT WANTS THEM OFF OF THE LIST.

SO OKAY, LET ME OPEN THAT UP FOR A QUESTION. WHAT CITY ARE YOU REFERRING TO ON THAT ONE? SALINA AND ANNA. GOTCHA. OKAY. ANNA. ANNA. ANNA, BOTH IN TERMS OF GROWTH RATES, ARE EXPECTED TO BE FAIRLY PROGRESSIVE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WHETHER THAT'S CURRENT REALITIES.

AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TAKING A SNAPSHOT IN TIME FOR THIS YEAR, RIGHT? IF WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS FARMERS BRANCH. YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT HASN'T GOTTEN A LOT OF TALK TONIGHT. AND I MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT IS THAT IT'S PROBABLY BE INCLUSIVE ON THE LIST.

YOU KNOW, FARMERS BRANCH HAS ALWAYS, ALWAYS FELT LIKE THE FARMERS BRANCH IS KIND OF A WEIRD PERCEPTION FOR MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE IN FARMERS BRANCH OR YOU'RE IN CARROLLTON OR WHATEVER. SO, I BUT LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN I LOOKED AT YOUR STUDY, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DRILL DOWN INTO WHAT FARMERS BRANCH IS, IT'S NOT TO ME ANYWAY, IT'S NOT THAT DISSIMILAR FROM SACHSE.

SO I WOULD BE OKAY WITH INCLUDING THAT WE COULD OBVIOUSLY DISCUSS IT.

ANNA WAS ON MY LIST, BUT AGAIN I CAN IT'S NOT A HARD THING.

OKAY, SO I'M OPEN TO THAT, MISS HOWARTH. I WOULD HOLD MY NOSE AND TAKE ANNA IF SALINA WAS OUT.

AND I DON'T WANT ALLEN EITHER. RIGHT. SO, I HAVEN'T GOT TO MY HARD YES OR HARD NO'S YET.

OKAY. YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. TAKE A READ. GETTING CLOSER.

MR. PRESTENBERG. YES. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PHILOSOPHY, RIGHT? I HATED THAT CLASS. BUT I'LL SAY THIS, THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR SOMETHING IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 YEARS, TOPS, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 5 OR 6 YEARS FROM NOW.

SO, INCLUDING A CITY THAT'S JUST ON A BLAZING GROWTH TRAJECTORY.

THAT'S OKAY. I MEAN, WE DO HAVE ROOM TO GROW A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT FULLY MAXED OUT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OPENINGS, RIGHT.

STILL FROM A FILLING FROM A RESTAURANT STANDPOINT OR BUSINESS STANDPOINT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US KEEP SOME OF THOSE HIGH GROWTH, YOU KNOW, CITIES OR WHATNOT, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THEM. WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THEM NOW. AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE COMPARING TO. SO. OKAY.

HELPFUL. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, WE HAVE SEVEN SHIRTS.

IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOUR GREEN IS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON FARMERS BRANCH? YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK THAT I'M OKAY WITH INCLUDING IT.

DO WE HAVE ANY HARD NOTES? NO. ARE YOU GOING TO INCLUDE.

THAT'S A GOOD NOD. CONSENSUS AROUND THE TABLE.

THANK YOU. SO, WE INCLUDE THEM. SO NOW WE'RE UP TO SEVEN.

BUT MY MATH IS RIGHT. FOUR OR NO THAT'S EIGHT.

EIGHT. ONLY TWO OF EIGHT PEOPLE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE WE'VE HAD DEBATE BETWEEN RICHARDSON AND GARLAND, OF COURSE. I'M WITH MISS HOWARTH. I, I'M OKAY WITH INCLUDING RICHARDSON.

BUT AGAIN, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS WITH ALAN? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ALAN ON THEIR STRONG YES LIST? THIS IS ONE THAT I CAN CROSS OFF OF THE LIST AND EVERYBODY CAN BE OKAY AND COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

SURE SOUNDS LIKE IT. OKAY. SORRY FOR EDITING IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS.

IGNORE THE YELLOW. THAT WAS ME EXPERIMENTING.

WELL, RED DEFINITELY SENDS THE RIGHT WRONG MESSAGE.

I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. SO WE HAVE OF THE REMAINING RICHARDSON, GARLAND, THE COLONY, AND SALINA, WE NEED TO SELECT TWO. WELL, MR. PRESTENBERG, I WOULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD CHOOSE SALINA. WE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT THE COLONY AND ITS GROWTH TRAJECTORY.

LIKE WAY BEING. IT'S ALREADY WHERE IT'S AT. AND THEN CHOOSING ONE OF THE RICHARDSON GARLAND SELECTIONS.

I KIND OF LIKE MICHELLE SAID, I CAN HOLD MY NOSE AND SEE THAT RICHARDSON IS DEFINITELY WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

I LIVED IN GARLAND FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS GROWING UP AND A GREAT CITY TO BE FROM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE.

I DON'T WANT SAXY TO BE LIKE THAT EVENTUALLY.

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MY APOLOGIES, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS. I WOULD PREFER ON THE NO LIST THE COLONY, ALLEN AND GARLAND.

THAT'S MY PREFERENCES. OKAY. SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE A STRONG OBJECTION TO WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS SAID ABOUT EXCLUDING THE COLONY? TAKING THAT OFF THE LIST. ANYBODY FEEL LIKE THE COLONY IS ALSO RECEIVING CONSENSUS OF A NO? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. OKAY.

YOU CAN PUT READ THROUGH THAT ONE. NOW IF MY MATH IS RIGHT.

RICHARDSON. GARLAND. SALINA. WE NEED TO NEED TWO.

TWO OF THOSE THREE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THINK I'VE HEARD AS FAR AS FAR AS NOT HARD NOSED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, RICHARDSON SEEMS TO WANT TO MAKE THE LIST.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

ANYBODY HAVE A STRONG OBJECTION TO RICHARDSON NOT BEING ON THAT LIST? MR..

HOWARTH. IF I CAN READ THE ROOM OR WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, I THINK RICHARDSON AND SALINA ARE IN AND GARLAND IS OUT.

I THINK YOU READ CORRECTLY. JUST. YEAH. SOMEBODY TELL ME I'M WRONG.

YOU'RE NOT WRONG. OKAY. I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT.

OKAY. SO WITH MISS HOWARD'S LAST TWO CITIES THERE.

ANYBODY? THERE? IT IS. SO RICHARDSON IS IN. SALINA IS IN.

GARLAND IS OUT. IT IS MY HOMETOWN, THOUGH, SO IT'S ALL GOOD.

I'M. WE'RE NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT WONDERFUL CITIES. THEY'RE JUST NOT YOUR COMPARISONS THIS YEAR FOR MY MY GARLAND. OKAY, SO MY FINAL LISTING QUESTIONS HERE IS RICHARDSON FARMERS BRANCH.

ROWLETT, WYLIE ROCKWELL, ANNA PRINCETON, CELINA MURPHY AND ROYSE CITY WILL BE THE COMPETITORS FOR THIS YEAR'S MARKET ASSESSMENT.

FROM HERE, WE WILL REACH OUT TO THESE PEER ORGANIZATIONS COLLECTING BASE PAY AND BENEFITS INFORMATION FROM THESE PEER ORGANIZATIONS TO COMPILE REPORTS AT A LATER DATE.

WE WILL BE PRESENTING OUR FINDINGS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT, YOUR ENGAGEMENT, YOUR PART OF THIS PROCESS. ABSOLUTELY. BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE FIRST STEP OF THE MARKET ASSESSMENT DONE WITH CONFIRMED PEER ORGANIZATIONS IS REMARKABLE.

AND WE CAN NOW MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR MARKET ASSESSMENT.

SO AS A QUICK REMINDER OF OUR TIMELINE, OUR GOAL IS NOW GETTING OUT TO MARKET.

WE WILL BE IN PAY PLAN DEVELOPMENT ONCE THE CONCLUSIONS OF PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE ARE COMPLETE.

WE ARE STILL ON TRACK TO MEET THAT DEADLINE, AS WELL AS HAVE PROJECT COMPLETION IN APRIL.

AND THEN I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH MY CONTACT INFORMATION. BUT ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR LAST COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PREPARE? MR. PRESTENBERG. YES. I MEAN, I KNOW WE JUST GAVE YOU KIND OF OUR CONSENSUS, BUT I THINK WE STILL HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK.

I'M ASSUMING WHEN SHE WAS DONE. SO I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST HOLD OFF ON YOU SENDING THAT EMAIL OUT TO YOUR TEAM, RIGHT? YEAH. GO. GOT IT. BUT YEAH, WELL WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT YET.

I KNOW, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, SHE SEEMS ONE THAT LIKES TO WORK FAST AND BOOM BOOM BOOM.

SO I LIKE EFFICIENT DECISION MAKING. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

I'LL LEAVE THIS LIST UP HERE THEN IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE COMMENTS. THANK YOU, MISS TOWN. OKAY, MARTY. OH, I DON'T NEED TO SEE THE LIST. OH. IT'S ON. OH, YEAH.

MARTY, 5511, OAK RIDGE CIRCLE, TOP OF THE HILL.

Y'ALL ARE PRETENDING LIKE THIS IS ONE SIZE FITS ALL.

AND WHEN YOU START TALKING COMPENSATION, THERE ARE LEVELS A POLICEMAN IN SAXY WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN A POLICEMAN IN SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES.

A FIREMAN IN ONE OF THESE CITIES IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FROM ANOTHER FIREMAN.

A GROUNDS KEEPER IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT COULD BE ALL THE SAME.

AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT FALLS INTO THIS DECISION MAKING PROCESS BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, PEOPLE GO TO GARLAND BECAUSE A CAREER PATH IS GREATER. THERE'S MORE THINGS TO DO IN MANAGEMENT.

THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN SAXY UNLESS YOU START SAYING THE HEAD OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE REMOVED EVERY FOUR YEARS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL DO NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A LOT IN MY IN MY OPINION. YOU'RE GOING TO GET STAGNATION AT THE TOP AND THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE

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YOU BETTER START HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS OF SERVICE BECAUSE WE ARE A SMALL CITY.

YOU MAY COMPARE US TO RICHARDSON, BUT WE DON'T HAVE US 75 RUNNING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF US.

WE HAVE PG WITH A BUNCH OF GAS STATIONS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THAT OUR GROWTH IS COMING TO AN END, AND THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE MONEY IS TO INCREASE MY TAXES.

AND Y'ALL DO A TERRIBLE JOB OF SPENDING MONEY.

AND I CAN SIT HERE AND RUN THE RUN THE LIST OFF.

SO YOU NEED TO DECIDE THAT THE APPLE IS NOT THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HOBART. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. BACK TO YOUR POINT, MR. PRESTENBERG. WE DO HAVE AT LEAST A DRAFT LIST, IF YOU WILL, OF THE TEN CITIES COMPARED TO CITIES WE WANT TO GO WITH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN MOTIONS? IF YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. MR. PRESTENBERG, DO WE NEED TO LIST OUT ALL TEN OF THE COMPARATIVE CITIES THAT WE'VE.

IF SHE POPS THEM BACK UP, WE CAN. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

WELL, MAYBE. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE FOR OUR PRELIMINARY PEER LIST.

THE TEN FOLLOWING CITIES OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS FARMERS BRANCH, ROWLETT, WYLIE, ROCKWALL, ANNA, PRINCETON, SALINA, MURPHY, AND ROYSE CITY. I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. PRESTENBERG TO HAVE THE PRELIMINARY LIST CITIES AS HE STATED.

I HAVE A SECOND. MISS HOWARD. SECOND. SECOND, MISS HOWARD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

MOTION CARRIES WITH COUNCILMAN MILLSAP VOTING NO.

NEXT TIME ON AGENDA ITEM G ADJOURNMENT. THE TIME IS GRANGER. 7:57 P.M.

I WAS ON THE WRONG SCREEN. 7:57 P.M. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.