Oct 13, 2025 Library Board Meeting

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CALL TO ORDER THE LIBRARY BOARD OF THE CITY OF SACHSE WILL HOLD A REGULAR MEETING ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 13, 2025. THE TIME IS 7 P.M. TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS OF BUSINESS.

WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE LIBRARY BOARD MEETING.

INVOCATIONS. INVOCATION. PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE US AND TEXAS FLAG.

I WENT AHEAD AND HAVE WRITTEN SOMETHING FOR US.

IF WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO STAND. WE'LL START WITH OUR INVOCATIONS.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR GATHERING US THIS EVENING IN A SPIRIT OF SERVICE AND COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF LEARNING, THE JOY OF DISCOVERY, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OUR LIBRARY CONTINUE TO BE A LIGHT OF LIGHT FOR KNOWLEDGE AND CONNECTION IN SACHSE. BLESS EVERY BOARD MEMBER, STAFF MEMBER, AND NEIGHBOR WHO WALKS THROUGH THESE DOORS.

MAY THE WORK DONE HERE ALWAYS REFLECT WISDOM, KINDNESS, AND CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER AS WE LEAVE THIS PLACE TONIGHT.

HELP US CARRY THAT SAME SPIRIT OF COOPERATION AND CARE INTO THE REST OF OUR WEEK.

GUIDE US WITH WISDOM AND KINDNESS IN ALL THAT WE DO.

WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS FLAG. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE; TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD REGULARLY ON ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION OR PUBLIC HEARING. COMMENTS REGARDING ANY DISCUSSION, ONLY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. THE TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.

A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE ACTING SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT THE BOARD IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA, BUT WILL TAKE COMMENTS UNDER ADVISEMENT. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? SEEING NO. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

ACTION ITEMS FOR THE BOARD'S DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION FOR ACTION.

[1. Consider approving the September 8, 2025, meeting minutes.]

A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE ACTING SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE START OF THIS MEETING.

CONSIDER APPROVING THE SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025 MEETING MINUTES.

WOULD ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ABOUT THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM THE BOARD.

I SHALL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025 MEETING MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I, MEGHAN KERSHAW SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE OUR VOTE RESULTS IN. WE HAVE PASSED 4 TO 0 ZERO ABSTAINING. SO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ITEMS. THESE ITEMS ARE FOR THE BOARD AND STAFF TO DISCUSS AS NEEDED.

[1. Receive and discuss the Library Manager's monthly report.]

WE ARE TO RECEIVE AND DISCUSS THE LIBRARY MANAGER'S REPORT.

RANDALL CROSS WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM. THANK YOU.

TO RECAP A FEW HIGHLIGHTS FROM SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER WAS LIBRARY CARD SIGN UP MONTH.

AND THAT'S JUST THE MONTH THAT EVERY YEAR WHEN LIBRARIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY KIND OF TAKE TIME TO REALLY TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT REACH NEW MEMBERS AND SIGN UP NEW PEOPLE FOR LIBRARY CARDS. WE DID A PROMOTION DURING THAT MONTH WHERE IF YOU GOT A NEW LIBRARY CARD IN SEPTEMBER, THEN WE WOULD ENTER YOUR NAME INTO A DRAWING FOR SOME BOOK GIVEAWAYS.

AND WE REGISTERED 210 NEW BORROWERS. AND WE, I THINK 15.

I THINK WE HAD 15 BOOK PACKS TO GIVE AWAY. SO THE WINNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AND THEY'VE STARTED TO PICK UP THEIR PRIZE BOOKS.

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SO IF YOU REMEMBER, WE WERE SWITCHING FROM CLOUD LIBRARY AS OUR PRIMARY E-BOOK AND AUDIOBOOK SERVICE TO LIBBY BY OVERDRIVE. AND IN SEPTEMBER CLOUD LIBRARY. THE TIME WAS UP.

OUR SERVICE SHUT OFF A LITTLE MORE ABRUPTLY THAN WE WERE EXPECTING.

RIGHT. BUT STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

A LOT OF WE HAD A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GETTING THE WORD OUT FOR MONTHS. THERE WERE STILL PEOPLE THAT WERE UNAWARE THIS WAS HAPPENING AND A LITTLE CONFUSED.

BUT STAFF DID A GREAT JOB FIELDING QUESTIONS AND HELPING PEOPLE GET SIGNED UP WITH THE NEW SERVICE.

AND WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE VENDOR ON MIGRATING OUR LICENSE CONTENT OVER.

SO THAT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. BUT I THINK WE'RE KIND OF OVER THAT ROUGH PATCH, AND WE'RE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET OUR STATISTICS FOR THE PAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, CIRCULATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO HOPEFULLY GET OUR CONTENT MIGRATED OVER.

MAYBE BY THE END OF THE MONTH, AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE IT READY TO SEND TO OVERDRIVE.

SO I THINK OVERALL, DESPITE A LITTLE HICCUP WHEN IT KIND OF SHUT OFF AT 5 P.M.

ON SEPTEMBER 30TH UNEXPECTEDLY WE'RE OKAY NOW.

THE PHONE CALLS HAVE SLOWED DOWN. AND OVERALL, I THINK IT'S BEEN A POSITIVE CHANGE.

I THINK I HEAR MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT LIBBY THAN DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THE CHANGE AND THEIR NUMBERS JUST KEEP KIND OF, KIND OF GROWING EVERY WEEK. EVERY MONTH. WE HAVE A NEW OUTDOOR BOOK RETURN.

YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED IT OUTSIDE THE LIBRARY. IT'S BLUE.

SO THE OLD BOOK RETURN WAS WAS A LITTLE WORN, A LITTLE RUSTY, AND THE THE LOCKING MECHANISM HAD BEEN REPAIRED A FEW TIMES.

AND SO WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE THAT AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE CITY WAS ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN FOR US.

SO WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THE NEW BOOK RETURN, AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE OUR REPLACEMENT CARTS ARRIVE SOON.

OKAY. VERY NICE. WE HAVE AUGUST. STATS ARE IN THIS AGENDA PACKET PROGRAM.

AND ATTENDANCE WAS A LITTLE DOWN BECAUSE WE DO TAKE A BREAK FROM STORYTIME IN AUGUST AFTER SUMMER JUST TO PLAN FOR THE NEXT SEASON.

AND THEN IN NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, WE'LL HAVE MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THE FISCAL YEAR IN REVIEW.

WE'RE RUNNING FROM OCTOBER 24TH TO SEPTEMBER 25TH, SO NEXT MONTH WILL BE KIND OF A REVIEW OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

I THINK THAT KIND OF BRINGS US UP TO SPEED ON REVIEW ON SEPTEMBER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE NOW GOING TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT LIBRARY POLICY ON PATRON BEHAVIOR.

[2. Discuss the current library policy on patron behavior.]

THANK YOU. I THINK JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING, NOTHING.

NOTHING BAD HAPPENED, AND WE'RE NOT REVIEWING THE POLICY IN RESPONSE TO A PARTICULAR INCIDENT.

THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE LIBRARY'S OLDER POLICIES, AND IT'S JUST A GOOD IDEA TO KIND OF LOOK AT THESE PERIODICALLY, I SEE AT LEAST EVERY EVERY COUPLE YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICY STILL REFLECTS THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE LIBRARY.

AND THERE ARE A FEW THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE NEED TO UPDATE.

I THINK THIS ONE IS ABOUT TEN YEARS OLD. SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE NO CELL PHONE USE IN THE LIBRARY, I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT OUTDATED AND NOT REALISTIC.

SO WE WANTED TO WE'RE NOT READY TO VOTE ON ANYTHING YET.

THIS IS JUST A KIND OF REVIEW, THE EXISTING POLICY.

BUT WE WANTED TO UPDATE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, SOME OF THE WORDING AND THEN A COUPLE ITEMS IN PARTICULAR, I THINK NEED SOME ATTENTION. UNDER GENERAL RULES.

NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE PATRONS MAY NOT POST PRINTED MATERIAL IN THE LIBRARY.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY BULLETIN BOARD THAT GETS A LOT OF USE.

SO I THINK WE WOULD JUST KIND OF UPDATE THE LANGUAGE THERE TO REFLECT THE WAY WE DO THINGS.

SERVICE ANIMALS, OF COURSE, ARE ALLOWED. FOOD AND DRINK IS ONE THAT HAS, I THINK, BEEN COMING UP MORE FREQUENTLY.

WE'RE SEEING JUST KIND OF MORE INCIDENTS WHERE THERE'S SPILLS OR MESS OR KIND OF DAMAGED MATERIALS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE STICKY HANDS OR CHEETO FINGERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE WANT TO KIND OF LOOK AT MAYBE WHAT OTHER LIBRARIES IN THE AREA ARE DOING, WHAT ARE THEIR POLICIES.

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ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES IS WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY A DESIGNATED AREA WHERE IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO HAVE FOOD.

SOME FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE A SPACE, MAYBE A FOYER OR A WHERE THERE'S VENDING MACHINES AND A SITTING AREA.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ENTIRELY CARPETED.

AND OUR INDOOR SEATING IS AMONGST THE BOOKS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT REALLY A GOOD SET APART SPACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A SNACK AND, YOU KNOW SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES IS, IS MAKING MAKING THE SPACE WORK WITH JUST MORE ATTENDANCE.

WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC. FOOT TRAFFIC WAS WAY UP IN THE PAST YEAR.

AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SPEND TIME THERE, ESPECIALLY LITTLE ONES.

THEY GET HUNGRY, WANT A SNACK? SO I USE THAT SIDE ROOM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED. YOU KNOW, THE ONE WHERE IT GOES OUTSIDE THE ACTIVITY ROOM OR WHATEVER.

BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE DONE MOVIES IN THERE AND HAD POPCORN AND THINGS FOR KIDS, SO I DIDN'T KNOW.

AND THAT WON'T THAT WON'T CHANGE. WE'LL STILL CONTINUE TO DO PROGRAMS THAT INVOLVE LIKE SNACKS OR THE COOK AND THE BOOK PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE BRING FOOD BASED ON THE COOKBOOK THAT THEY'RE READING THAT RIGHT. YEAH. SO THAT'S NOT CHANGING.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO LOOK AT KIND OF WHAT MIGHT BE A GOOD POLICY.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE COULD EAT THERE. LIKE, WE COULD JUST SINCE THERE'S ALREADY THE WAY WE WE HANDLE IT NOW IS IF IT'S A LIBRARY PROGRAM WHERE THERE'S SNACKS OR THE FOOD IS AS PART OF THE PROGRAM, THEN PEOPLE CAN HAVE FOOD IN THERE. BUT THAT SPACE WE DON'T TYPICALLY OPEN UP.

RIGHT. FOR PEOPLE JUST TO BE IN THERE BECAUSE IT GETS A LOT OF USE FOR LIBRARY ACTIVITIES.

YEAH. LET'S SEE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT I SAID. CELL PHONES.

I THINK ARE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE PHONES IN THE BUILDING.

THAT'S OKAY. AS LONG AS THEY'RE BEING, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFUL OF THE NOISE LEVEL. I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO ADD IS ABOUT SPEAKERPHONE OR FACETIME. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT CAN BE MUCH MORE DISRUPTIVE THAN JUST SOMEONE YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR HEARING TWO SIDES OF A CONVERSATION, I THINK IS MORE DISRUPTIVE AND DISTRACTING THAN SOMEBODY JUST KIND OF SPEAKING QUIETLY ON THEIR PHONE. SO I THINK THAT'S ONE THAT WE'LL MAYBE LOOK AT.

AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO OPEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT FOR DISCUSSION AND SEE IF YOU ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS AND KIND OF GET SOME INPUT ON BEFORE MAYBE NEXT TIME WE'LL HAVE A DRAFT FOR YOU TO REVIEW. BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO KIND OF GET THEIR THEIR OPINIONS ON THE TABLE. WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THIS FIRST ONE HERE, IT SAYS IN IN TERMS OF NOT THE FOOD AND DRINK, WHERE IS IT? OH, THE POSTING PRINTED MATERIALS IN THE LIBRARY.

AS YOU SAID, WE USED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY BOARD.

SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THAT COMMUNITY BOARD IS GOING TO BE DISCONTINUED? OH, I'M SORRY. I MEAN, I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE, THOUGH.

THE COMMUNITY BULLETIN BOARD IS IS STAYING. WE HAVE NO NO PLANS TO REMOVE THAT.

IT SAID THE POLICY SAYS THAT YOU MAY NOT POST OR DISTRIBUTE MATERIAL, AND WE WANT TO UPDATE THAT WORDING THAT MAYBE SAY SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF MATERIAL MAY BE POSTED IN DESIGNATED AREAS. OKAY.

MEANING THE COMMUNITY BOARD, BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT THAT REALLY LIKE TO BRING OUT FLIERS AND PROMOTE COMMUNITY EVENTS.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF THAT. WE WANT THE POLICY TO REFLECT KIND OF THE WAY WE HOW THE SPACES EVOLVED.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO KEEP. EXACTLY.

AND TO CONTINUE THAT SPIRIT OF BEING COMMUNITY DRIVEN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIBRARIES ARE AMAZING SPACES TO BRING COMMUNITIES TOGETHER.

THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS REGARDING KIND OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ROLES.

SO I FEEL THAT, YES, SILENCING RINGERS AND NOT HAVING FACETIME CONVERSATIONS IS QUITE DISTRACTING TO ESPECIALLY OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND TO OUR ADULTS WHO ARE BACK IN HIGHER EDUCATION AND ALSO, OUR KIDS THAT ARE TRYING TO COME TO THE LIBRARY TO STUDY THAT IT'S A DISTRACTION. THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO KIND OF GET SOME INFORMATION ABOUT IS WHAT ARE THE LIBRARY'S POLICIES FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE DYSLEXIA? BECAUSE JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, OCTOBER IS DYSLEXIA AWARENESS MONTH.

AND THAT MIGHT HAVE TO USE THE FACILITIES BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT HAVE INTERNET AT HOME.

BUT USE TEXT TO SPEECH ACCOMMODATIONS ON THEIR COMPUTERS.

IS IT MORE KIND OF LIKE A HEADPHONES? AND WHAT WOULD THAT WHAT WOULD YOU PERCEIVE THE VOLUME SHOULD ONLY GO TO,

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IN FACT THE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE IN THE LIBRARY, IT CAN SOMETIMES BE A BOISTEROUS PLACE, ESPECIALLY AFTER STORY TIME. YES. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO ENFORCE SOME SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SHUSH OR WHISPER POLICY. AND AS FAR AS SPEECH TO TEXT AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF A SIMILAR VOLUME LEVEL AS MAYBE SOMEBODY SPEAKING ON A PHONE. OKAY. YEAH. SO I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, THAT BEING A PROBLEM.

I THINK WHAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS MAYBE BEING MORE DISRUPTIVE IS WHEN THERE'S A LOUD SPEAKER PHONE OR AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO AND WE SEE THIS A LOT AT THE FRONT DESK.

SOMETIMES YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP SOMEONE AND THEY'VE GOT A SPEAKERPHONE CONVERSATION GOING AT THE SAME TIME, AND YOU'RE LIKE, I, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GROUP, A GROUP CONVERSATION NOW.

SO NO, CERTAINLY NOT WANTING TO IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS ON PEOPLE THAT NEED SOMETHING LIKE VOICE TO TEXT.

BUT I WOULD ADD PERSONALLY, LIKE JUST FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.

NOT, I GUESS NOT LEGALLY, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOUR BASES ARE COVERED.

LIKE IF SOMEBODY IS USING SPEECH TO TEXT, THEY CAN VERY EASILY USE HEADPHONES WITH THAT.

AND IF YOU'RE IN IMPOSING A NO SPEAKER POLICY, THEN LIKE, PEOPLE WITH DYSLEXIA COULD STILL USE THAT TOOL WITHOUT USING A SPEAKER, BECAUSE IF SOMEONE ELSE IS SITTING THERE TRYING TO READ AND IS CONSTANTLY HEARING THE OUT LOUD READ, YOU KNOW IT IS SIMILAR TO A DISTRACTING PHONE CALL, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GETTING HELP.

AND SO I THINK YOUR BASES PERSONALLY WOULD BE COVERED IF YOU JUST STUCK WITH LIKE, ALL ELECTRONIC WHATEVER SOUND WAVES SHOULD BE.

WITH HEADPHONES. WITH HEADPHONES, PERIOD. BECAUSE THEN THAT COVERS YOU WITH MUSIC.

IT COVERS YOU WITH PHONE CALLS. IT COVERS YOU WITH THE READ ALOUD.

JUST BECAUSE I KNOW PERSONALLY I GET DISTRACTED REALLY EASILY. EXACTLY.

BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER, SHE USES THE HER SPEECH TO TEXT, BUT SHE DOES USE HEADPHONES.

BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE KNOW THE REALITIES OF OUR LIBRARY AND HOW CONDENSED, LIKE, ALL THOSE COMPUTERS ARE RIGHT THERE. AND SO MY THING IS, IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE YES, WE HAVE ONE PERSON USING IT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING RESPECTFUL WHEN WE'RE USING THE LIBRARY SERVICES AND KNOWING LIKE, WHAT'S THAT APPROPRIATE VOLUME. OH, LIKE FOR THE HEADPHONES.

FOR THE HEADPHONES. CORRECT. I SEE. BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A WHISPER OR A HUSH KIND OF THING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN WE ARE IN LIBRARY SPACES, THEY ARE VERY QUIET PLACES.

AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY HAS THE INFORMATION SO THAT THEY KNOW WHEN THEY COME IN.

THIS IS THE LEVEL. THIS IS LIKE THE EXPECTATION.

SO YEAH, BUT HEADPHONES DEFINITELY NEED TO BE A MUST IN LIBRARIES.

I WISH THEY WERE MORE POPULAR ON, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN ONLY CONTROL THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? ARE THERE HEADPHONES AVAILABLE FOR. WE HAVE OTHER EARBUDS, EARBUD STYLE, AND WE HAVE THOSE.

AND WE JUST WILL GIVE THEM GIVE THEM OUT, ESPECIALLY AT THE COMPUTER AREA IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO LISTEN TO SOMETHING ON THE COMPUTER, BUT JUST YOUR EARS TO KEEP, YOU KNOW. YEAH. ANOTHER THING THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD WHILE LOOKING THROUGH THIS, AND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE FUTURE, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO START THINKING ABOUT IS THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TEENS COME INTO THE LIBRARY TO HANG OUT. BUT THE FILMING OF LIKE, DEFINITELY, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO POST TO SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SEE, LIKE THE LIBRARY ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT JUST START THINKING ABOUT MAYBE ADDRESSING LIKE TIKTOK CHALLENGES AND LIKE THE FILMING OF VIDEOS AND DIFFERENT TRENDS THAT COME UP. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES IF A KID IS FILMING A SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEO WITH A CHALLENGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEY'RE OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF A STACK SOMEWHERE AND NOBODY CAN SEE, AND THEN THAT POSTS UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEY'VE RECORDED A VIDEO, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO NECESSARILY BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY IN THIS ONE, BUT I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING JUST TO LIKE, HAVE IN THE BACK OF MY MIND WITH LIKE.

LIKE VIDEO RECORDING, RIGHT? WITHOUT MAYBE VIDEO RECORDING WITHOUT PERMISSION AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE, IF THE KIDS ARE IN THE BACKGROUND OR, I DON'T KNOW, JUST SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, OR MAYBE THEY CAN TAKE A PHOTO BUT NOT A VIDEO, RIGHT? RIGHT. OR IF LIKE, MAYBE THEY ARE DOING A REALLY CUTE BOOK CHALLENGE, BUT THEY JUST NEED PERMISSION TO RECORD IT.

LIKE MAYBE THEY'RE JUST DOING THIS IS WHAT I READ AND THEY'RE JUST DOING A CUTE LITTLE [INAUDIBLE]. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT. AND SO

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YEAH. BUT I THINK YOU'VE CAPTURED IT WITH THE ONE STATEMENT YOU HAVE HERE, PATRON SHALL BEHAVE IN A MANNER THAT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH ANOTHER PERSON'S ABILITY TO USE AND ENJOY THE LIBRARY OR PROHIBIT STAFF FROM PROVIDING SERVICES.

SO AS LONG AS THAT'S THE OVERARCHING THEME. RIGHT.

AND THEN ANOTHER, JUST FROM AN ENGLISH STANDPOINT.

SORRY, I GET SO LIKE NERDY JUST FROM AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE STANDPOINT ON THE LIBRARY RESTROOMS, ONE WHERE IT SAYS SHALL BE USED AS INTENDED. AND THEN IT SAYS, DO NOT USE THEM FOR BATHING.

YOU HAVE LIKE THE OVERARCHING AND THEN YOU HAVE LIKE A DIRECTIVE IN THE SAME SENTENCE AND JUST TENSE WISE.

IT'S KIND OF IF Y'ALL WANT TO THINK THAT LIKE LIBRARY RESTROOMS SHALL BE USED AS INTENDED.

THEY SHALL NOT BE USED FOR BATHING, SHAVING, WASHING HAIR JUST FOR YOU KNOW, ENGLISH TEACHER IN ME.

I'M SORRY. YEAH, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CATCH ALL OF THOSE.

BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOU UPDATING US AND KEEPING THINGS RELEVANT.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S GREAT. ESPECIALLY, LIKE THE CELL PHONE POLICIES DEFINITELY NEED TO BE UPDATED FOR, YOU KNOW, KIDS WANT TO USE IT AND ADULTS WANT TO USE THEM.

AND. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE GREAT NOTES.

IS THERE ALSO LIKE ANY KIND OF LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, SANITARY WIPES OR LIKE SOME KIND OF LIKE, DO WE ASK PATRONS TO LIKE, WIPE DOWN THE COMPUTER STATION, LIKE AFTER THEY USE IT OR.

WE DON'T ASK THEM TO DO THAT. WE DO. WE HAVE LIKE CLOROX SANITIZING WIPES.

SO IF WE SEE THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, A MESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE'LL SWOOP IN AND GET IT.

AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE PATRONS WHO WILL ASK, YOU KNOW, HEY, COULD I HAVE A WIPE TO CLEAN THE COMPUTER? YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THINKING ABOUT THE FOOD AND DRINKS TO LIKE, JUST LIKE GERMS AND LIKE, IT JUST MIGHT BE LIKE A FLU SEASON COMING, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, HEY, JUST WIPE IT DOWN AFTER YOU.

I THINK THAT IS ONE FOR THE COMPUTER AREA. WE WOULD SAY NO FOOD AT THE COMPUTER AREA JUST FOR SURE.

YEAH, YEAH. WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE CRUMBS IN THE KEYBOARD OR.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. IT JUST MADE ME THINK OF, LIKE, WIPING DOWN YOUR AREA.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. BUT I AGREE, IF THERE WAS, IF YOU COULD SOMEHOW CARVE OUT A LITTLE SECTION OF THE LIBRARY OR SOMEPLACE, SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN SAY IF YOU ARE HAVING SNACKS WITH YOUR LITTLE ONE, HAVE IT OVER HERE AND THEN CLEAN UP AND THEN GO BACK.

YEAH. SO RANDALL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION UNDER PATRON NUMBER TWO OF ENVIRONMENTAL RULES SUBSECTION A ALIGN I IT SAYS MONOPOLIZING LIBRARY EQUIPMENT RESOURCES OR STAFF TIME.

CAN YOU EXPAND ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF MEMBERS? SURE. AN EXAMPLE MIGHT BE SOMEONE WHO COMES IN MAYBE SAYING THEY NEED SOME COMPUTER HELP, AND THEN THEY WANT YOU TO FILL OUT, LIKE, AN ENTIRE JOB APPLICATION OR RESUME OR PROOFREAD SOMETHING.

AND WE REALLY CAN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FILLING OUT, LIKE, YOUR TAX RETURN OR A JOB APPLICATION.

WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S IT'S THOSE AND SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A DIFFICULT THIS IS THE LINE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, OF COURSE, WE WANT TO BE HELPFUL. WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.

BUT THERE IS THAT KIND OF, LIKE, LEGAL OR LIKE WE CAN'T OFFER MEDICAL ADVICE, LEGAL ADVICE, FINANCIAL ADVICE. SO WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, FILL OUT THESE FORMS FOR YOU.

WE CAN'T I CAN'T WRITE, YOU KNOW, MAKE YOUR NEW RESUME FOR YOU, BUT I CAN I CAN HELP YOU FIND SOME TEMPLATES.

I CAN HELP YOU FIND RESOURCES, BOOKS OR ONLINE RESOURCES.

SO AND THEN I WOULD SAY THAT'S KIND OF MORE OF THE STAFF TIME.

AS FAR AS MONOPOLIZING LIBRARY EQUIPMENT THE COMPUTERS, YOU HAVE A SET NUMBER OF MINUTES PER DAY.

AND NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, WE RARELY FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S SOMEONE SITTING AT EVERY COMPUTER AND I HAVE TO SAY, WELL, I'M SORRY, YOUR TIME'S UP, AND THERE'S PEOPLE WAITING, SO I CAN'T EXTEND YOUR SESSION ANY LONGER.

SO YOU ALMOST EVERY TIME WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE PEOPLE MORE TIME AND, YOU KNOW, THEY PRETTY MUCH CAN STAY AS LONG AS THEY LIKE.

BUT THAT IS, I THINK, MAYBE MONOPOLIZING EQUIPMENT THAT LOOKED LIKE THE PUBLIC COMPUTERS.

THE EARLY LEARNING STATIONS FOR CHILDREN. BUT YEAH, I THINK REALLY I THINK PEOPLE ARE PRETTY GOOD AT KIND OF SELF-MONITORING.

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IN REGARDS TO OUR 3D PRINTER, WHICH WE STILL HAVE.

CORRECT. YES. IS THERE A LIMITATION ON THE USAGE OF THAT EQUIPMENT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. REALLY THERE'S NOT.

YOU PAY BY THE GRAM AND IT'S WE KIND OF JUST TAKE ORDERS.

IT'S KIND OF FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. WE HAVEN'T HAD RECENTLY A VOLUME WHERE IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM.

SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TURN AROUND ORDERS, I'D SAY WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A FEW DAYS AT THE MOST.

I COULD FORESEE A SCENARIO MAYBE WHERE YOU'RE GETTING SOMEBODY REQUESTING MAYBE, MAYBE HUNDREDS OF PARTS.

AND THE WAY I'VE HANDLED THAT PREVIOUSLY IS YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PRINT HUNDREDS OF THESE FOR YOU WHILE THESE OTHER ORDERS ARE STACKING UP.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAYBE GET YOU A FEW AND THEN.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE I'VE NOT BEEN ONCE ABLE TO USE THOSE SERVICES.

SO IT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO KNOW IF THERE'S A LIMITATION OR NOT.

BECAUSE IN YEARS PRIOR THERE WAS A PATRON THAT USED TO WHAT IS IT? PRINT PARTS FOR THEIR COMPANY AND SO MONOPOLIZE THAT A GREAT DEAL.

WHICH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT FEEDS BACK INTO OUR LIBRARY, BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT EQUIPMENTS DO HAVE LIMITATIONS AND WHICH ONES MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE.

SO THANK YOU. DO WE MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE 3D PRINTING OR DOES THE FEE JUST COVER BASIC EXPENSES? ESSENTIALLY, THE FEE JUST COVERS THE EXPENSES LIKE THE FILAMENT, THE PRINT MATERIAL.

OKAY. IT'S ROUGHLY THE COST OF THAT. IT'S $0.15 PER GRAM.

IT REALLY IT'S SIMILAR TO LIKE THE BLACK AND WHITE OR COLOR COPIES.

WE DO CHARGE, BUT I MEAN, AT THIS POINT WITH TONER AND PAPER, IT REALLY DOESN'T EVEN COVER THE COST.

THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING, WITH EVERYTHING GOING UP IN PRICE, IF THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO RELOOK AT AGAIN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

AS INFLATION HITS. SO YEAH. GOOD JOB THOUGH. YEAH I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS.

THANK YOU. BUT YEAH, STILL HAVE A 3D PRINTER.

SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO PRINT, LET ME KNOW.

I'LL LET MY HUSBAND KNOW. OKAY? HE'S BEEN WAITING.

I'LL PUT YOU ON THE QUEUE. YES. OKAY. OKAY. I THINK THAT GIVES US SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

AND MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A DRAFT OR SOMETHING FURTHER TO DISCUSS AT THE NEXT MEETING.

SOUNDS GREAT. OKAY, PERFECT. BEFORE WE MOVE ON, DOES ANYONE ON THIS BOARD HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO ADDRESS? NO. PERFECT. OKAY. WE ARE NOW GOING TO DISCUSS THE LIBRARY BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS REGARDING ANY SPECIAL EVENTS,

[3. Discuss Library Board announcements regarding special events, current activities, and local achievements.]

A DIFFERENT APP LIBRARY READING APP UPDATE. BOUNDLESS.

BOUNDLESS IS THE APP THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THROUGH THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION.

IT'S THE FREE PROGRAM OF THE TEXAS E-READS. APP IS DEVELOPED BY BAKER AND TAYLOR COMPANY.

BAKER AND TAYLOR RECENTLY FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY, SO THE FUTURE OF BOUNDLESS IS A LITTLE UNCERTAIN AS OF NOW.

I'VE HEARD MAYBE THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER.

BUT WE'RE JUST WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE BOUNDLESS APP.

SO THE PROGRAM IS FUNDED, BUT, I MEAN, THERE WOULD HAVE TO FIND AN ENTIRE NEW PARTNER AND A NEW APP FOR THAT, SO. OKAY, WE'RE WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED, BUT THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT WHAT I KNOW.

SO HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER, AND THEN MAYBE THEY'LL HAVE SOMETHING A DIFFERENT SERVICE FOR US TO KIND OF PIVOT OVER TO.

AND SOME UPCOMING PROGRAMS TO NOTE FOR OCTOBER.

RIGHT NOW IT'S FALL BREAK. WE HAVE THE SCAVENGER HUNT IS BACK.

WE HAVE SCAVENGER HUNT IN THE LIBRARY FOR THERE'S THREE DIFFICULTIES, SO THERE'S ONE FOR CHILDREN, TEENS AND ADULTS. IT'S GOING ON NOW FOR THROUGH THE REST OF THE WEEK.

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I GOT TO TELL YOU, THE KIDS ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THE SCAVENGER HUNT.

YES. YEAH, THEY HAD SOME. THEY WALKED IN, LIKE LIKE 9:05 AND LIKE, I'M HERE TO DO THE HUNT.

IT'S LIKE EYES. OKAY, SO YOU HAVE SCAVENGER HUNTS DURING OTHER TIMES OF THE YEAR AS WELL, RIGHT.

READING WITH GRETA IS BACK. GRETA OUR READING DOG WAS ON A BREAK AND GRETA IS BACK NOW.

REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HER BACK. THE NEXT WEEK WE'VE GOT SOME SOME FUN HALLOWEEN THEMED CRAFTS.

THERE'S A SAND ART, PUMPKIN NECKLACES, DECOUPAGE PUMPKINS FOR ADULTS, AND A BABY AND ME PROGRAM ON FRIDAY.

COOK THE BOOK RETURNS ON MONDAY THE 26TH, AND THEN JUST TWO DAYS LATER, WE HAVE THE BOOK TALK ON THE 29TH.

THE BIG ONE FOR THIS MONTH, THE BIG SAVE THE DATE IS THE HALLOWEEN PARTY ON THURSDAY THE 30TH AT 6 P.M.

IT'S A FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT AND IT HAS A HAUNTED CARNIVAL THEME.

WE'LL HAVE CRAFTS AND GAMES AND A BOUNCE HOUSE STYLE CORN MAZE SHOULD BE FUN FOR ALL AGES. SO THAT'S OUR BIG ONE ON THE 30TH. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT PLANNED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

THAT'S GREAT. I LIKE THE HAUNTED CARNIVAL, RIGHT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IF WE HAVE NO FURTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS, OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7:32.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.