F. Action Items

[1. Consider approving a resolution amending the Master Fee Schedule adopted by Resolution R-2025-11 by amending public safety fees, municipal court fines/fees, credit/debit card and transaction fees; and providing an effective date.]

ITEM ONE. CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION R-2025-11 BY AMENDING PUBLIC SAFETY FEES, MUNICIPAL COURT FINES, FEES, CREDIT, CREDIT, DEBIT CARD AND TRANSACTION FEES, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MISS NASH. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AS REFERENCED IN THIS ITEM, TYPICALLY THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE IS ONLY APPROVED KIND OF IN LINE WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS ANNUALLY. WE'VE, AS YOU KNOW, WORKED VERY HARD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO REMOVE OUR FEES OUT OF SPECIFIC ORDINANCES AND BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THEM AS A WHOLE.

BUT IN THIS CASE, THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OF SOME SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THINGS THAT DAVID WILL GO OVER WITH YOU AS A REMINDER OF SOME ITEMS THAT YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WE WILL BE MAKING THESE CHANGES MID-YEAR TO REFLECT THOSE ITEMS THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED.

HELLO, MR. BALDWIN. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COUNCIL.

TOPICS FOR THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE REVIEW THIS EVENING ARE PUBLIC SAFETY FEES THAT ARE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.

NEW ITEM. MUNICIPAL COURT FINES AND FEES. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO BULLET POINTS ARE REGARDING CREDIT CARD FEES.

THE FIRST OF THE ITEMS IS PUBLIC SAFETY FEES.

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THESE CHANGES ARE AGAIN FROM THE DECEMBER 1ST MEETING, WHERE COUNCIL PASSED AN EMERGENCY FIRE FEE ORDINANCE THAT WAS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST.

TONIGHT'S ACTION JUST RESTATES THOSE FEES. SO THESE FEES OVER THE NEXT FIVE OR SO PAGES, I'LL TOGGLE THROUGH AS DIRECTED PER THE ORDINANCE ON DECEMBER 1ST.

THE NEXT SECTION IS REGARDING MUNICIPAL COURT OR IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT FINES AND FEES AREA.

THE STATE LEGISLATURE INCREASED WARRANT FEES LAST YEAR, WITH THE FEE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST.

THIS FEE IS A $25 INCREASE, AND SO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE IS ADJUSTED TO REFLECT THAT.

AND THEN, COINCIDING WITH THE COUNCIL DIRECTED CREDIT CARD FEE CHANGES, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REDIT CARD FEE SECTION OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SECTION REFERENCES ONE CREDIT CARD FEE AND THAT WAS FOR FEES OVER $1,000 OR CHARGES OVER $1,000.

THERE WAS A 3% TRANSACTION FEE WITH THE NEW CREDIT CARD FEES THAT ARE ADDED.

WE'VE CONSOLIDATED ALL THOSE FEES INTO ONE SECTION.

AND SO THE ONE CHANGE HERE IS JUST TO REMOVE OUT OF THIS SECTION THAT FEE TO MOVE ELSEWHERE.

AND THEN THE LAST CHANGE PER COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON OCTOBER 20TH.

THE FEES LISTED HERE ARE IN A NEWLY CREATED CREDIT CARD FEE SECTION.

THIS ALLOWS FOR IMPLEMENTATION OR THIS SECTION SO IT REFLECTS WHAT WAS DIRECTED TO STAFF ITS FINES OR I'M SORRY TRANSACTIONS IN MUNICIPAL COURT OF 3%, UTILITY BILLING CREDIT CARD TRANSACTION FEES OF 2.5%, ALL OTHER DEPARTMENT CREDIT AND DEBIT CARD TRANSACTION FEES THAT ARE OVER $1,000 ARE CHARGED 3% ONLINE FOR PORTAL FEES ARE $1 PER TRANSACTION IN UTILITY BILLING OR, I'M SORRY, $1.25 IN UTILITY BILLING IN MUNICIPAL COURT, TRANSACTIONS RANGE FROM $1 TO 250. ALL OF THESE ARE AS DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL AND DIRECTED BY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 20TH.

IN ORDER FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT WITH DIRECTION TONIGHT STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO TO WORK WITH THE CREDIT CARD PROVIDERS OVER THE FOLLOWING MONTH. COMMUNICATE IN THE MONTH OF MARCH AND SO THE REQUEST IS FOR THIS FEE TO BE EFFECTIVE APRIL 1ST.

SO WITH THAT, STAFF REQUESTS THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE WITH THESE CHANGES.

THANK YOU, MR. BALDWIN. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION, MISS BUHLER.

HI, MR. BALDWIN ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY FEES IN OUR PRESENTATION, WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT THESE WOULD BE BILLED TO INSURANCE COMPANIES AND NOT TO RESIDENTS DIRECTLY. IS THAT STILL THE CASE? YES. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE IN THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, IT DOES NOT MENTION THAT YES, YOU ARE CORRECT, THE THEY WILL NOT, THEY WON'T CHARGE A RESIDENT THE FEES FOR THOSE SERVICES. EXCEPT UNLESS IT'S LIKE A CIRCUMSTANCE, IT'S KIND OF UNIQUE.

OTHERWISE IT'S PURELY FOR INSURANCE AND THAT ROUTE.

SHOULD BE. NONRESIDENT. OKAY. THAT'S PERFECT.

SHOULD WE NOTE THAT IN OUR MASTER FEE SCHEDULE BECAUSE IT'S REFLECTED ACTUALLY IN THE ORDINANCE SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE EVEN DOING THIS. SO IN THE IN THE ORDINANCE IT'S ALL DETAILED.

WHAT WE DO IN HERE IS WE JUST LIST WHAT THE RATES ARE BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TO PUT, GENERALLY SPEAKING, SPECIFICITY IN THIS FEE SCHEDULE. WE'D RATHER PUT THAT IN THE ORDINANCE.

THAT WAY IF THERE'S CHANGES WE MAKE THEM THERE.

AND THEN WE'RE JUST LISTING THE FEES HERE OF WHAT THEY ARE.

BUT IT IS OUTLINED, SPECIFICALLY IN THE ORDINANCE WITH REGARD TO THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS. GO DOWN TO YOUR LAST SLIDE, PLEASE.

I THINK IT WAS RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL RIGHT. GREAT.

NOW GO UP ONE. OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE THE THE PRESENTATION AND ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA DID NOT HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION SLIDE ON IT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANOTHER MISSING SLIDE YOU JUST ADDED FOR CLARITY.

JUST FOR VISUAL. NO, NO. AND I, I GET IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I WASN'T MISSING ANYTHING ELSE.

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THANK YOU. YOU BET. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, MR. BALDWIN. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THIS ITEM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

YOU MISSED THE SHALLOW PART LAST TIME. SO IT SAYS SHOULD.

IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE RIGHT.

WELL, THAT'S OUR THAT'S THAT'S OUR BAD. BUT IT WILL BE CORRECTED NEXT TIME, I PROMISE. SO YOU GET A FREEBIE TONIGHT? IT'S QUICK. MARTY HOBB, 5511 OAK RIDGE CIRCLE, SACHSE, TEXAS. TOP OF THE HILL. A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON CREDIT CARD FEES IN THE MEETING.

AS THE FEES AS THEY ARE PROPOSED. TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, DO THEY COVER YOUR COSTS? THAT'S ALL I WANT TO HEAR IS THAT YOU'RE NOT TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE YOU ALL WANT TO GIVE SOMEBODY ON SOME STREET DISCOVER CARD.

DO THESE FEES TO COVER YOUR EXPENSES. THANK YOU.

AND IS IT GOING TO GET ANSWERED, OR IS SOMEBODY GOING TO MEET ME OVER HERE OR YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SIT HERE, OR DO I NEED TO STAND HERE FOR ANOTHER TWO MINUTES AND 30S.

WELL, YOU WON'T BE DOING THAT, BUT. OH, YEAH, I CAN, I CAN, I CAN TALK, I CAN SING.

THERE'S A LOT I CAN DO. THAT'S TRUE, MR. BALDWIN.

REGARDING THE PORTAL FEES. SO THIS INCLUDES A UTILITY BILLING PORTAL FEE.

SO THIS IS RECOVERING THE COST THAT THE CITY PREVIOUSLY ABSORBED SO FOR PORTAL FEES, THIS FULLY COVERS OUR COST FOR THAT'S CHARGED TO US REGARDING THE CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEES. AS WE'VE DISCUSSED MANY TIMES, IT DEPENDS ON THE CREDIT CARD.

THERE'S DINER'S CARDS, THERE'S VISA, MASTERCARD.

EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT FEES. THOSE FEES RANGE GENERALLY FROM 1.5% TO 3%, UP TO 4%.

AND SO IT JUST DEPENDS WHO'S DOING WHO'S WHO'S CHARGING WHAT CARD.

SO TOO HARD TO TELL. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. BALDWIN.

YES. OKAY. SO MISS HOWARD, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAY IN THE QUEUE? OKAY, GO AHEAD, MISS HOWARD.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

ITEM F.1 AS PRESENTED. OKAY. MOTION BY MISS HOWARD TO APPROVE ITEM F.1 IS PRESENTED TO SECOND.

MR. PRESTENBERG. SECOND. SECOND BY MR. PRESTENBERG.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM TWO, CONSIDER APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF A NEW PIERCE FIRE TRUCK AND ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT FROM

[2. Consider approving the purchase of a new Pierce Fire Truck and associated equipment from Siddons-Martin Apparatus in the amount not to exceed Two Million, Four Hundred Seventy-Seven Thousand, Eight Hundred Fifty and No/100 Dollars ($2,477,850.00).]

THE SIDDONS-MARTIN APPARATUS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,477,850.

MISS NASH. YEAH. WELL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THERE'S NOT MUCH TO OVEREXPLAIN ON THIS.

HE'S GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE NEW PIERCE FIRE TRUCK.

SOMETIMES BREVITY IS BEST. I ALWAYS, I ALWAYS DEFER TO YOU.

BUT NOT THAT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. CHIEF WADE.

WITH THAT CHIEF WADE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, MAYOR COUNCIL. MISS NASH, I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT GETTING ANOTHER FIRE TRUCK.

I KNOW THIS DOES COME AROUND. I KNOW IT FEELS TOO QUICK BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU FIRST OFF ABOUT THE LADDER TRUCK, AND THEN I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE AMBULANCE.

SO WE'LL JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH IT. WE'LL BASICALLY TALK YOU THROUGH OUR PROCESS, HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE, WE DID WITH THIS DECISION TO TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS TOOL THAT IS BASICALLY THE TRUCK THAT WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE ON IT. EVERY COMMUNITY HAS SOME DIFFERENT NEEDS.

SO THERE MAY BE A FEW LITTLE CHANGES HERE AND THERE.

BUT BUT THAT'S THE UNIT. AND IT IS A PIERCE ASCENDANT 100 FOOT WITH A PLATFORM.

AND IT'S A MID MOUNT, AND I'LL EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENCES AND WHY THE MID MOUNT WORKS.

WE BASICALLY LOOKED AT OUR CURRENT OUR CURRENT LADDER, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THIS 100 FOOT MID MOUNT AND THEY DID A LOT OF DEMOS CAME OUT.

WE DID A LOT OF DRIVING AROUND THE COMMUNITY WITH IT. WE LOOKED AT ALL KINDS OF SPECS, AND THERE WAS PROBABLY AN 8% DIFFERENCE ON BETWEEN THE TWO.

THE, THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE THAT WE LIKED ABOUT IT, THERE ARE SOME SHARED THINGS, BUT THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE NOT.

SO THE THEY HAD ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE SAME CHASSIS, THE WHEELBASE WAS VERY SIMILAR.

BUT THE IN THE CLEARANCES AS WELL. THE MID MOUNT IT'S FAR MORE VERSATILE.

IT DOES HAVE A, A I GUESS IT MEETS MORE OF OUR CURRENT NEEDS AS WELL AS OUR FUTURE NEEDS OF WHAT,

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WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD OR WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO PUT ANYWHERE, IT WILL MEET OUR NEEDS.

THESE THINGS TAKE FOUR YEARS TO GET HERE WHEN YOU ORDER ONE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE COMING NOW. SO WE CAN BE PREPARED IN FOUR YEARS TO REPLACE THE OTHER ONE.

THIS ONE HAS THE T.3 TANDEM ACT, I GUESS, REAR AXLE.

BASICALLY, IT'S NOT A DRAG AXLE THAT WHEN YOU TURN THE BACK, THE BACK AXLE KIND OF DRAGS.

THESE ACTUALLY TURN WITH THE UNIT, MAKING IT TURN SHARPER.

AND THAT'S KIND OF A DEMONSTRATION OF JUST OF WHAT IT WHAT IT DOES.

THIS IT WORKS A LOT FASTER THE DEPLOYING IT FROM THE STABILIZERS TO THE, THE LADDER AND THE PLATFORM ITSELF GOES FASTER.

IT'S A MORE STABLE WORK AREA. IT CARRIES EQUIPMENT AND IT'S EXCEPTIONAL FOR ROOF OPERATIONS.

AND ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD NEED ABOVE, ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR.

AS I SAID, YOU CAN PUT TOOLS UP THERE. SO IT'S A IT'S A YOUR TOOLS ARE ALREADY UP THERE.

WHEN YOU GET THERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LUG THEM UP TO THE TO DO THE JOB.

IT CAN CARRY MORE WEIGHT AT THE TIP, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TRYING TO MOVE PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF A PLACE OR RESCUE FOLKS.

IT ALSO HAS TWO MASTER STREAMS. OUR CURRENT LADDER HAS HAS ONE MASTER STREAM, WHICH IS WHICH IS THE THE PIPE THAT SPRAYS WATER FROM THE TOP.

THIS HAS TWO. SO WE CAN WE CAN DOUBLE UP OUR CAPACITY GALLONS PER MINUTE WISE.

AND THERE'S ALSO A 2.5IN DISCHARGE AT THE TOP JUST FOR UTILITY.

IF WE NEED TO GET ON TOP OF KROGER WE CAN HOOK UP TO THIS AND HAVE A HOSE LINE RIGHT THERE.

IT'S IT'S VERSATILITY ALLOWS FOR A MORE EFFICIENT VICTIM REMOVAL AND ACCESS.

IT TALKS ABOUT A SCRUB AREA WHEN THIS THING IS IS FULLY RETRACTED.

IT'S USABLE IN SMALLER AREAS. OUR CURRENT ONE IS LONGER, SO IT'S RESTRICTED WHEN WE NEED TO USE IT.

IF WE HAD TO USE IT UP CLOSE, IT'S GOT A REAL NICE SCRUB AREA AND IT'S WE CAN GO 20 DEGREES BELOW GRADE, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT ONE IS ABOUT 10%. ONE OF ITS LIMITATIONS IS IT'S GOT A 300 GALLON WATER TANK.

IT OUR CURRENT ONE HAS 500 GALLONS. THE 300 GALLONS DOES MEET ALL OF THE THE COMPLIANCE AND ORGANIZATIONAL NEEDS.

THERE'S AN ERROR ON THE UL, SFRI, IT SHOULD BE FSRI, WHICH IS THE FIRE SAFETY RESEARCH INSTITUTE.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ONE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH TRAINING AND JUST KNOWLEDGE OF THE EQUIPMENT ANY OF THAT LIMITATION WITH WATER IS NOT IS NEGLIGIBLE. SO FOR THE COST OF REPLACEMENT, THE BASE APPARATUS WAS 2.5, BASICALLY 2.6, WITH A PREPAID DISCOUNT OF 318.

IT BRINGS IT DOWN TO 2.2 AND SOME. PLUS WE'D PROBABLY WE WOULD WANT TO PUT IN AROUND $200,000 FOR ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT OR NEW THINGS THAT NEED TO GO ON IT.

THOSE THINGS ARE TYPICALLY ON THE LIFE CYCLE IS VERY SIMILAR TO YOUR APPARATUS.

A LOT OF THINGS ARE. SO TOTAL PRICE 2.477.

SO BASICALLY THIS MID MOUNT PLATFORM, IT ENHANCES ALL OF OUR CAPABILITIES AND ESPECIALLY THE WAY OUR ROADS AND OUR NEW OUR BUILDINGS ARE BUILT.

IT IMPROVES MANEUVERABILITY IN THE TIGHT RESIDENTIAL AREAS HAS GREATER STORAGE RESCUE AND TECHNICAL RESPONSE CAPABILITIES.

SO THE NEXT STEP IS I WOULD ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THIS PLATFORM FROM SIDDONS-MARTIN APPARATUS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. CHIEF. YES, SIR.

QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF. MR.. PRESTENBERG. HEY, CHIEF.

HOW ARE YOU DOING? I'M DOING WELL, SIR. I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS.

ONE. JUST KIND OF A TECHNICAL QUESTION, BUT THE THE DUAL MASTER STREAMS. I MEAN, I THINK BEING ABLE TO SHOOT TWO THINGS AT THE SAME TIME WOULD BE AMAZING, BUT IS THAT ALL JUST BASED ON IF YOU HAD TWO FIRE HYDRANTS NEARBY, OR ARE YOU LIMITED? IS YOUR CURRENT STREAM LIMITED? NOT BY HOW MUCH WATER IS COMING OUT, BUT WHAT CAN BE DISPERSED? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? KIND OF. WELL, YOU'RE ALWAYS LIMITED BY THE WATER SUPPLY THAT YOU HAVE.

IF I'M ONLY GETTING 500 GALLONS FROM A HYDRANT, AND I CAN ONLY PUT 250 GALLONS OUT OF EACH NOZZLE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

OUR HYDRANTS WILL FLOW OVER THOUSAND AND 1500.

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SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF SUPPLY COMING IN. SO IF YOU HAD JUST ONE AERIAL PUMPING, ABOUT 750 AS WE HAVE NOW, WE WOULD HAVE TWO BEING ABLE TO PLACE THEM IN SEPARATE AREAS.

OKAY. SO INSTEAD OF ONE LADDER TRUCK YOU'VE GOT OR TWO LADDER TRUCKS YOU'VE GOT ONE DOING THE JOB OF TWO.

OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY, SIR. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT AN 8% PRICE DIFFERENCE, BUT YOU DIDN'T REALLY SAY WHAT THE COMPARISON IS, RIGHT? LIKE, WHAT IS IT? IS IT ANOTHER MID MID-MOUNT PLATFORM BUT JUST HAS LESS OPTIONS? THAT'S THE 8% DIFFERENCE OR IS IT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF.

IT'S THE GOING UP THAT EXTRA SEVEN FEET. OKAY.

IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE COMPARISONS WERE PUT OUT.

OKAY. YEAH. SO THE 100 FOOT MEETS ALL OF OUR NEEDS FOR THAT.

OKAY. SO. OH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 100 AND 107 FOOT AND 100 FOOT IS 8%.

YES. OKAY, BUT WE'RE GOING WITH 100. YES. GOT IT.

OKAY. I'M SORRY, I WASN'T. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING YOU WERE. NEVER MIND.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOOD. AND THE NEXT.

THIS IS JUST FINANCE QUESTION, THOUGH, IS. OKAY, WE SAVE ROUGHLY 12% FOR PREPAID DISCOUNT OF $318,000. I'M JUST CURIOUS. I MEAN, IF WE. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO PUT A DOWN PAYMENT ON ONE OF THESE THINGS? IF TO GET IT START TO BE BUILT IN FOUR YEARS.

DO YOU HAVE TO PAY IT ALL UP FRONT OR CAN YOU.

WELL IF YOU DO PREPAY IT UPFRONT THEN THAT IS THE COST.

THAT'S WHAT YOU PAY AND THEY GIVE YOU THE DISCOUNT.

OKAY. SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF YOU DRAG IT OUT OVER THE FOUR YEARS, THEN YOU WOULD PAY THE FULL AMOUNT OVER THAT WHEN WHEN YOU RECEIVED IT.

OKAY. I'M NOT GOOD ON THE FINANCE PIECE OF THAT HOW IT'S ACTUALLY DONE, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO I'M SURE THEY'VE DONE TIME, VALUE OF MONEY AND WHAT THE INTEREST RATES ARE AND SAVINGS ACCOUNTS.

ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, RIGHT. AND IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AND PAY IT EARLY.

YES. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IS WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO A DOWN PREPAYMENT ON THIS, BUT THEN WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IT OUT OVER TIME IN PREPARATION.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE IT ALL TODAY. OKAY. BUT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE PREPAY PRICE IF WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THESE INSTALLMENTS BASICALLY ESSENTIALLY VERY QUICKLY.

OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO BE ABLE TO GET THE PRICE NOW.

PLUS THE BIGGER ISSUE FOR US. I MEAN, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUR VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT THAT WE DO SET ASIDE FUNDS.

BUT THE BIGGER THING FOR US IS THIS, CHIEF WADE POINTED OUT, IS THE TIME IT TAKES TO BUILD ONE OF THESE, BECAUSE THESE AREN'T IN THE THE FIRE TRUCK STORE.

YOU CAN'T GO. THEY HAVE TO BE. NOT A LOT. PREORDERED AND BUILT.

SO YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO PREORDER IT AND THEN THEY'RE BUILT BASED ON YOUR SPECIFICATIONS.

OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE PUTTING 2.6 DOWN.

LIKE, IF WE APPROVE THIS, LIKE TOMORROW OR IF WE WERE PUTTING HALF $1 MILLION DOWN AND THEN ANOTHER HALF A MILLION.

OKAY, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT OVER TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DISCOUNT.

OKAY. I THINK THAT WAS I MIGHT HAVE ONE MORE, BUT I'LL WAIT.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MISS HOWARTH. I SAID THE CURRENT TRUCK IS.

HOW OLD? IT'S A IT WAS BUILT IN 2017 ISH, AND WE.

I THINK WE RECEIVED IT IN 18. OKAY. SO IT'S A IT'S.

OH YEAH. BECAUSE IT GOT. SO IT'LL BE. IT HAD TO GO BACK TO THE SHOP BECAUSE IT WAS INJURED IN AN ACCIDENT.

THAT DID HAPPEN TO IT. WHEN MY, AND WHEN THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR BURNED, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LADDER TRUCK.

I REMEMBER NOW. THAT WAS 2018 OKAY. SO WE'RE EXPECTING THE LIFESPAN IS TEN YEARS.

12 YEARS. WHAT ARE WE TALKING 10. 10 FRONTLINE TYPICALLY.

AND THEN YOU CAN KEEP THEM IN RESERVE FOR UP TO FIVE.

OKAY. WE TYPICALLY WILL HAVE OURS IN SERVICE A LITTLE LONGER THAN TEN.

OKAY. AND THEN, LIKE IN THIS CASE, IT'LL BE OVER THE TEN WHEN WE RECEIVE THE NEW ONE BECAUSE IT TAKES FOUR YEARS TO GET IT.

SO IT'S IT'S NINE YEARS OLD NOW. WE HAD THE FOUR.

WE'RE AT 13. AND THEN WE GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS OF RESERVE AND THEN WE BUY ANOTHER GAZILLION DOLLAR FIRE TRUCK[LAUGHS].

YES. OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT. AND WE HAVE THIS MONEY IN THE VERF THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IT.

WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IT ASIDE IN A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT.

IT'S SLOW, BUT YES, WE PUT MONEY ASIDE TO BE ABLE TO PAY IT OFF BY THE TIME WE.

IT IS DELIVERED. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. MR. MILLSAP.

OKAY, SO I GUESS SAME QUESTION, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER CLARIFICATION FOR ME.

IF WE ORDER THE TRUCK TODAY AND COMMIT TO THIS PRICE, THAT IS THE DELIVERED PRICE FOR YEARS FROM NOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ADD AN INFLATIONARY COST, BECAUSE COST OF BUILDING THE TRUCK OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS IS GOING UP TO AN UNANTICIPATED AMOUNT OF MONEY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE THE PRICE THAT THEY PAY IS WHATEVER THE COMMITMENT IS.

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OKAY, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A FIXED PRICE HERE DOWN TO THE PENNY.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING FROM THEM THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIXED PRICE AND IT WON'T GO UP? YEAH, I THINK THE THE ONLY TIME THINGS WILL CHANGE IS IF WE MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THAT.

WELL YEAH. YEAH. AND SO THAT WOULD SAY THAT'D BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE, WE'D BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

THERE WAS TALK IN THE INDUSTRY OF MAKING IT TO WHERE IT WAS.

IT WAS FLOATING. IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET WOULD FLOAT, SO THE PRICE WOULD FLOAT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR PRICE THAT WE PAY.

OKAY. NOW THIS IS FOR THE 100 FOOT LADDER. YES.

NOT THE 107 FOOT. IT'S THE 100 FOOT WITH THE.

BECAUSE AT 100 FOOT LADDER, WE'RE PAYING $25,000 A FOOT FOR THE TRUCK WITH 100 FOOT LADDER ON IT.

RIGHT. AND IF WE GO TO 107, THE NEXT SEVEN SEVEN FEET IS GOING TO COST US $30,000 A FOOT.

SO I'M REALLY NOT I WAS CONCERNED, DO WE REALLY NEED THAT EXTRA SEVEN FEET RIGHT AT THAT PRICE? AND ALSO JUST THE PICTURE THAT YOU HAD, THE SLIDE THAT HAD THE PICTURE ON IT WITH ALL THE PARAPHERNALIA OUT IN FRONT OF IT? YES, SIR. JUST A MATTER OF A QUESTION THAT IS IS SHOWING THE TRADITIONAL FIRE ENGINE RED, AND WE HAVE A UNIQUE COLOR. ARE WE GOING TO MATCH THE COLOR WITH WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A TWO DIFFERENT COLORED TRUCKS? NO, WE'RE GOING TO MATCH THE MATCH THE CURRENT FLEET. THAT'S A SOCIAL STATEMENT OF BEING COLOR COORDINATED, I THINK. BUT YES, SIR. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANYTHING ANY BETTER. BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING. THAT'S ALL IT IS.

YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THE PARAPHERNALIA OUT IN FRONT IS REFERENCING THE $200,000 OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU WERE RIGHT TALKING ABOUT. IT'S INCLUDED IN THE PRICE.

YES, IT'S INCLUDED INTO THAT 200,000, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME ITEMS THAT THAT ARE THAT ARE NOT READY FOR US TO GET RID OF.

SO WE WILL MOVE THOSE WITH OUR CURRENT STUFF.

BUT IN GENERAL, ABOUT THE 200,000 IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO OUTFIT THE TRUCK.

AND THIS PRICE IS DELIVERED TO SACHSE, NOT US HAVE TO GO GET IT OR PAY TRANSPORTATION COSTS.

IT'S DELIVERED. YES. FREE ON BOARD. DELIVERED.

READY TO GO TO WORK? YEP. OKAY. YES, SIR. OKAY, MR. LINDSEY? YEAH. BOY, TIME REALLY FLIES. FEELS LIKE YESTERDAY.

WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER TRUCK, BUT THAT HAS BEEN EIGHT YEARS AGO.

YEAH, THE TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE THERE I WAS GOING THROUGH.

AND IN 2017, WE WERE IN A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY SET ASIDE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A VERVE ACCOUNT.

WE HAD TO DO A TAX NOTE, WHICH WAS LIKE A SHORT TERM LOAN.

SINCE THEN, THROUGH THE LEADERSHIP OF MISS NASH AND THEN OUR AWARD WINNING FINANCE DEPARTMENT, OF COURSE, WITH THE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, WE GOT THAT FUND ESTABLISHED.

SO I'M JUST I'M SO THANKFUL WE WERE ABLE TO PAY OFF OUR CURRENT TRUCK, PLUS START SAVING FOR ANOTHER TRUCK.

WHEN PEOPLE WONDER WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS GO, IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY TO RUN A FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE, YOU'RE SHOPPING, YOU'VE GOTTEN THE VERY BEST PRICE. I'VE LOOKED AT THE INDUSTRY, TALKED TO OTHER OUT THERE.

I KNOW WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT TRUCK FOR FOR WHAT WE NEED.

I KNOW IT COSTS A LOT. AND AND RIGHT NOW IT REALLY IS FOUR YEARS OUT.

I MEAN, I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, OH, THERE'S NO WAY.

IT'S LIKE, NO, IT'S IT'S REALLY THE WAY THAT THIS MARKET IS WORKING.

IT'S JUST JUST IT IS WHAT IT IS. SO I'M SO HAPPY TO TO SEE US HERE ALREADY THINKING AHEAD, NOT WAITING FOR THE OTHER TRUCK TO BREAK. SO WITH THAT, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

MID-MOUNT. IT'S LIKE TALKING RELIGION ALMOST.

SO I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG DEAL. A LOT OF OPINIONS ON IT.

TRADITIONALLY, IT'S BEEN A LOT MORE TO MAINTAIN.

I'VE HEARD OF CITIES LIKE PLANO, FOR EXAMPLE, OF THEY HAD A MID MOUNT AND NOW THEY'VE GONE BACK TO THE TRADITIONAL REAR MOUNT LADDERS ON THERE. SO WHAT ARE YOU HOW ARE YOU SEEING. WHAT DO YOU DO YOU THINK THE MAINTENANCE OF THIS VEHICLE WILL BE MORE THAN WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE OF THE CURRENT LADDER TRUCK IS? YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY FIRE TRUCK I'VE EVER BEEN ON IS HIGH MAINTENANCE [LAUGHS].

I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL KIND OF CUSTOM AND THEY'RE ALL BUILT DIFFERENT, AND THEY'RE HARD TO THEY'RE HARD IT'S HARD TO GET A HANDLE ON BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE EXTRA, IT'S GOT AN EXTRA AXLE. IT'S GOT THE AXLE.

SO YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EXTRA MORE TIRES TO BUY IT.

WILL IT WILL BE PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE OF IT. AS FAR AS THE LADDER OPERATION, I'VE HEARD PEOPLE LOVE HOW IT HOW IT DOES THE JOB.

IT DOES THE JOB VERY WELL. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE OF THEM NOT WORKING AS BEING THE BIG PROBLEM.

WE CAN BE KIND OF FICKLE AND IN DIFFERENT IN THE FIRE SERVICE, AS WE KIND OF, WE KIND OF GRAVITATE TOWARD THE NEWEST THING A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF JUST LOOKING TO SEE WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE.

SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I CAN. I CAN SPEAK FOR US.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE ONE WE NEED, SO. AWESOME.

AND I REMEMBER WHENEVER WE WERE REPLACING THE OTHER TRUCK, THAT ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS WAS GOING FROM STEEL TO, LIKE, ALUMINUM LADDER. IT'S WEIGHED

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MORE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY STILL HAS ANY OF THOSE THOSE CONCERNS ANYMORE.

IF HAVING OUR CURRENT TRUCK FOR THIS LONG HAS, HAS YOU KNOW, IF IT'S FACTORED INTO ANY OF THE DECISION MAKING, WHAT DID WE LEARN BASICALLY FROM OUR CURRENT TRUCK THAT KIND OF WENT INTO THIS? YES. THE CURRENT TRUCK, IT HAD THE NEW ASCENDANT LADDER AT THE TIME, WHICH WAS DESIGNED FOR LESS WEIGHT, HIGHER STRENGTH AND LONG TERM LONG TERM USE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN OUT OF THE LADDER PIECE ITSELF.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN THAT THIS ONE WILL BE IN ASCENDANT.

IT'LL BE THE SAME TECHNOLOGY, AND WE EXPECT THE SAME USE OUT OF IT.

SO YEAH, IT'S BEEN GREAT. HAVEN'T HEARD ANY NEGATIVES.

AWESOME. SPEAKING OF NEGATIVES, A FEW NAYSAYERS OUT THERE THAT WERE LIKE, OH, WE DON'T HAVE 100 FOOT OR 100 OR 10 STORY BUILDING.

YOU KNOW, HERE YOU ARE ASKING FOR 100 FOOT LADDER. SO IS IT, IS IT TRUE THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW HIGH BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO 90 DEGREES STRAIGHT UP? THIS IS REALLY ABOUT REACH. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WHENEVER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A 100 FOOT LADDER, IT'S BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO TO BE ABLE TO REACH THAT FIRE FROM A STREET.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF ITS USE WILL BE REACHING REACHING A STRUCTURE FROM A DISTANCE.

OF COURSE, THE HIGHER YOUR LADDER LIKE ON OUR, OUR APARTMENT COMPLEXES, WE WON'T REACH THE, THE TOP, BUT WE WILL REACH THE UPPER FLOORS, YOU KNOW, WITH 100 FOOT THE ANGLE OFF THE STREET.

LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE LIMITED. SO YOU, THAT'S THE BEST REACH THAT WE HAVE.

YEAH. SO WE'RE GETTING WE'RE STAYING REAL PRACTICAL WHERE WE'RE AT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T EVER PREDICT THE FUTURE, BUT JUST THE REMAINING LAND THAT WE HAVE LEFT.

DO WE FORESEE ANY, ANY BUILDINGS COMING IN THAT THAT COULD EXCEED THAT HEIGHT REQUIREMENT? WE'RE MAYBE IN AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL BUILDING THAT TAKES SHAPE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE, THAT MAY PUT US AT A DISADVANTAGE FOR FOR NOT THINKING BIGGER RIGHT NOW.

YEAH. WELL, YOUR YOUR FIRE APPARATUS WILL REMAIN THE SAME.

THEY WILL BE 100 FOOT AERIALS. THAT'S THE STANDARD.

IF YOU HAVE BUILDINGS THAT GO HIGHER THAN YOUR NEEDS, THEN THEN YOU DESIGN THE DESIGN, THE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM AND THE FIRE ACCESS TO TO SUPPORT THE FIRE SUPPRESSION. BECAUSE ONCE THEY GET SO HIGH, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF OUTSIDE.

IT'S ALL INSIDE. VERY GOOD TO KNOW. WELL I APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW YOU'VE PUT A TON OF WORK INTO THIS. YOU'VE THE, THE COMMITTEE HAD AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT INPUT AND EVERYTHING JUST TO GET US TO THIS POINT. SO THANKS FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE. I'M SUPER EXCITED.

THIS WILL DEFINITELY BRING A EVEN A NEW ELEMENT WITH THAT, WITH HAVING A PLATFORM.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THAT'S THAT'S WHAT OUR AS OUR CITY HAS GROWN.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT I SEE WE'RE NEEDING. WE'RE NOT SELLING OURSELVES SHORT ON ANYTHING AND WE'RE NOT GOING CRAZY ABOVE AND BEYOND.

AND THIS, I HOPE, WILL SERVE US VERY WELL AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T EVER NEED SOME OF THE ABILITIES.

BUT IF WE DO, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM.

AND I KNOW THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS WILL ALWAYS BE TRAINING FOR ALL THOSE PARTICULAR SCENARIOS.

SO LOOK FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU AGAIN, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.

THANKS, CHIEF. YES, SIR. SO I WAS AROUND A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE BOUGHT THE LAST ONE.

PART OF THE PURCHASE REQUIRED A COUPLE OF VISITS UP TO WISCONSIN, I BELIEVE, TO ONE OF THE BUILDING PROCESS.

JUST MAKING SURE THE RIGHT THINGS WERE BEING PUT IN AND EVERYWHERE.

IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN? YES. THERE'S A, THERE'S THREE TIMES THAT THAT YOU GO VISIT.

AND THAT'S IN THE INITIAL PLANNING PHASE WHEN THEY THEY SHOW YOU THAT THEY'VE GOT YOUR CHASSIS AND IT'S JUST TWO RAILS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE STARTING TO BUILD. AND THEN THEY SHOW YOU, THEY TAKE YOU TO, TO SHOW YOU WHAT YOUR SPECIFIC ELEMENTS LOOK LIKE AND WHERE.

THEN THEY SHOW YOU A FINISHED PRODUCT. SO YOU'LL KIND OF YOU CAN CRAWL ALL OVER IT, LOOK AT EVERY BOLT AND NUT.

EVERYTHING. THEN THEN YOU GO BACK AT THE MIDPOINT AND THAT'S IT'S BASICALLY TOGETHER.

BUT THEY'VE GOT TO DO A LOT OF WIRING AND THEY'VE GOT TO SHORE UP SOME THINGS, AND IT'S BASICALLY THERE.

SO YOU GO THROUGH THE SPECS, MAKE SURE THAT YOU DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING.

AND THEN THERE'S THE FINAL. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU GO BACK FOR THE FINAL.

YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK FOR A SCRATCH OR YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK FOR A TORQUE WRENCH BECAUSE THEY PUT DOTS ON THE, ON EVERY, THE, ALL THE, THE NUTS THAT NEED TORQUE WRENCH DOWN.

AND THEN THEY MARK IT WITH, WITH A MARKER. AND IF ANY OF THOSE ARE BROKE THEN IT'S NOT WORKING AND YOU CAN REJECT THEM.

SO EVERY LITTLE DETAIL IS LOOKED AT THE FINAL.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GET IT YOU GO BACK. ONCE YOU RECEIVE IT, YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT YOU CHECKED OFF, AND THEY CHECKED OFF TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOOD. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE PROCESS.

SO YES. YES. THANKS, SIR. WE'LL ADD FIRE ENGINEER TO YOUR TITLE.

IT'S AN ENGINEERING ANSWER. SO I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE EXACT SAME TRUCK THAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY REPLACING, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE. YEAH. IT IS. IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE.

IT JUST HAS SOME SOME ADDITIONAL CAPABILITIES AND MANEUVERABILITY AND THINGS THAT ARE MORE, MORE JOB RELATED, YOU KNOW, FUNCTIONAL, BUT MORE OR LESS IN 2017, THIS TRUCK WE ALL WERE SHOCKED WAS $1 MILLION.

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YEAH IT WAS 1,000,002. RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. SOMEWHERE.

RIGHT. RIGHT ABOUT THAT AND FUNNY. EVERYTHING IS DOUBLED.

IT ALMOST ALWAYS DOUBLES. FOR SOME REASON I WISHED I HAD SOME CONTROL OVER THAT, BUT I DO NOT.

DID YOU ASK FOR, LIKE, A FIRST RESPONDER DISCOUNT? I ASKED FOR EVERYTHING. EVEN MY SENIOR DISCOUNT [LAUGHS].

RIGHT? CRUMPLE REAR CRUMPLE, CRUMPLE BUMPER? CONSIDERING LAST TIME.

YEAH. NO, IT'S. WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME.

WE TALK ABOUT THE COST OF THINGS AND HOW IT'S NOT FAIR.

IT'S STUPID. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY DOUBLE THE PRICE THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH NOT EVEN TEN YEARS AGO FOR THE SAME ESSENTIAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

IT'S RIDICULOUS. BUT I MEAN. OKAY, THANKS. THANK YOU.

SIR. MR. MILLSAP JUST ONE CLARIFICATION FOR MYSELF ON THE TANDEM AXLE SET UP.

YOU NOTICED YOU INDICATED THAT THE BACK WHEELS TURN A LITTLE BIT.

SO WHENEVER YOU GO IN A CORNER, THEY DON'T SLIDE.

YES. AND YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A DRAG AXLE.

ARE BOTH OF THESE ACTIVE AXLES? IN OTHER WORDS, BOTH OF THEM DRIVE OR IS THE ONE BACK THE BACK ONE JUST FREEWHEELING? I THINK THE BACK ONE IS JUST THERE FOR FOR THE WEIGHT.

FOR THE WEIGHT. SO IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A DRIVE AXLE.

OKAY. AND YOU MENTIONED BUYING MORE TIRES. IS THIS THIS IS GOING TO BE TWO TIRES ON EACH SIDE OF EACH AXLE INSTEAD OF ONE OF THE NEW NEWER TREND GOING TO THE BIG FAT WIDE TIRE, SINGLE TIRE ON EACH AXLE ON EACH SIDE.

OR DO WE KNOW? I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IT'S THE DUAL AXLES, BUT DUAL TIRES.

YEAH. YEAH. THE DUAL TIRES. OKAY. BUT THERE MAY BE AN OPTION TO GO THAT OTHER ROUTE, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

I JUST WONDER BECAUSE SOME OF THE NEW TRUCKS AND NEW NEW EQUIPMENT ARE GOING TO SINGLE TIRE, BIG FAT, WIDE TIRE. YEAH. OF COURSE, IF YOU HAD A FLAT, THEN YOU'RE OUT OF BUSINESS.

THAT'S TRUE. YOU'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT, RIGHT? MR. PRESTENBERG. DID YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK TO YOU OR DID YOU? OH, I'M SURE I'LL ASK MY QUESTION.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS THAT MADE ABOUT THE SAVING UP THE MONEY TO ORDER TO GET HERE.

AS MAYOR PRO TEM FRANK SAID, NOBODY LIKES TO THINK ABOUT THE COST INCREASE WE'VE HAD, BUT THAT'S THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.

AND SO I WANT TO COMMEND STAFF FOR. AND THIS MR. LINDSEY SAID BACK IN 2017, ESTABLISHING THAT FUND.

AND IT IS REALLY PAYING DIVIDENDS TODAY. SO APPRECIATE STAFF'S FORESIGHT ON THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S BEST TO TALK ABOUT THIS NOW, AS OPPOSED TO WHEN THE OTHER TRUCK IS ABOUT OUT OF SERVICE.

SO APPRECIATE YOUR PLANNING ON THAT. THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU SIR.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU CHIEF.

ANYONE ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? COME ON DOWN.

DID YOU WANT TO WAIT? OKAY. I'M GOOD. MINE'S ALL MONEY.

IT'S GOOD LOOKING RIG. MARTY HOBO, 5511 OAK RIDGE CIRCLE, SACHSE, TEXAS.

TOP OF THE HILL. I'M GLAD IT'S SACHSE RED. MR. MILLSAP STOLE MY QUESTION. HIS NEXT. HIS NEXT TALK IS THE AMBULANCE.

Y'ALL STATE QUITE CLEARLY THAT YOU HAVE THE MONEY IN THE FUND FOR THAT.

BUT YOU'RE A LITTLE IFFY ON DETAILS FOR THE TRUCK.

SO IS THIS GONNA BE A $500,000 A YEAR ASSESSMENT TO GET TO THE 2.5 MILLION IN 2028? OR HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE FUND NOW? AND WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT TO PAY FOR? I'M JUST MORE CURIOUS OF WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE FUND TO PAY FOR IT.

AND BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S A GREAT TRUCK AND WE NEED IT AND ALL THAT, BUT THE MONEY IS A DIFFERENT ITEM.

JUST LOOKING FOR THOSE DETAILS. MAYOR I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT, MISS NASH.

OH, THERE YOU GO. SO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THE VERF RIGHT NOW.

ONE OF THE THINGS, THOUGH, THAT WE DO MAKE SURE IS THAT EVERY YEAR AS WE GET PREPARED FOR THE BUDGET, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO PAY FOR WHAT WE NEED TO REPLACE THE NEXT YEAR.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO LOCK IN THIS PRICE, AND WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE VERF RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT, AND THEN WE WILL BE CONSIDERING WHAT WE THEN REPLACE IN THE NEXT YEAR.

SO WE'RE LOCKING IN THE PRICE. WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE VF TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET CREATIVE WITHIN THE VERF TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR SOME OTHER THINGS A LITTLE SOONER. PAY FOR THIS LATER. BUT THE POINT IS, IS THE MONEY IS IN THERE.

AND AS WE ADDRESS IT EVERY YEAR WITH YOU IN THE BUDGET, YOU SEE WHAT WE PAY FOR IN THE VERF AND HOW WE'RE ABLE TO COVER THAT.

SO THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE AND THAT WAY WE CAN LOCK IN THIS PRICE.

THANK YOU, MR. NASH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?

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MR. PRESTENBERG? YEAH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE VERF.

I KNOW IT'S PREVIOUSLY WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ABOUT THE ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO AUCTION OFF THOSE FUNDS, GO INTO THE CORRECT. OR DOES THAT GO TO GENERAL FUND.

I CAN'T REMEMBER. NO. THOSE MONIES GO BACK INTO THE VERF OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. IT'S NOT A LOT THOUGH.

NO. SO I MEAN AS YOU SAW IT'S BUT NO THEY GO BACK INTO THE VERF WE DON'T WE DON'T PUT IT AND MOVE IT ANYWHERE ELSE.

IT JUST GOES RIGHT BACK IN TO HELP OFFSET MORE UPCOMING VEHICLE COSTS.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F.2 AS PRESENTED.

MOTION BY MR. PRESTENBERG TO APPROVE ITEM F2 AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? MR. LINDSEY. SECOND. SECOND.

BY MR. LINDSEY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM F.3.

[3. Consider approving the purchase of a new Horton Ambulance and equipment from Professional Ambulance sales & service, DBA SERVS in the amount not to exceed Five Hundred Eighty-Nine Thousand, Six Hundred and Eighty-Six and No/100 Dollars ($589,686.00).]

CONSIDER APPROVAL APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF A NEW HORTON AMBULANCE AND EQUIPMENT FROM PROFESSIONAL AMBULANCE SALES AND SERVICE, DBA SERVS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $589,686.

AND ON THE ADVICE OF MISS NASH LAST TIME, I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO MR..

EXCUSE ME, TO CHIEF WADE. WE'LL JUST SKIP RIGHT TO YOU.

SO, CHIEF WADE TRYING TO GET THE PRESENTATION UP HERE.

HANG ON A SECOND. OKAY, THAT'S THE SAME ONE. FOR A SECOND.

AMBULANCE, RIGHT? YES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THIS ONE IS PRETTY BRIEF. IT'S A IT'S TIME TO TRY TO REPLACE ONE OF OUR AMBULANCES.

AMBULANCES TAKE AROUND TWO YEARS TO GET THAT'S WHERE THEY SAID 24 TO 36, BUT IT'S USUALLY AROUND AROUND TWO YEARS, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. BASICALLY, THERE'S A PROPOSAL AND THEN THERE'S A COST TO REPLACE.

THE THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE FORMAT. WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ABOUT THE AMBULANCE.

WE'RE BASICALLY JUST CHANGING THE VENDOR AND THE MANUFACTURER.

WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE TO HORTON, WHICH THEY THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SAFETY STANDARDS AND TESTING, WHICH THE REST OF THE INDUSTRY TYPICALLY DOES NOT.

THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE FOR THE QUALITY OF THESE RIGS.