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OKAY. WELCOME TO THE SACHSE LIBRARY BOARD MEETING.

[1. Call to Order: The Library Board of the City of Sachse will hold a regular meeting on Monday, March 9, 2026, at 7:00 PM to consider the following items of business:]

TODAY IS THE 9TH OF MARCH, 2026, AND THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 7:02 P.M..

I'VE ASKED MEGHAN TO OFFER THE INVOCATION AND ALYSSA TO LEAD THE PLEDGES, IF YOU WILL.

PLEASE RISE. ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU DOING THE INVOCATION? YOU WANT TO START WITH THE INVOCATION, PLEASE. OH, OKAY.

I THOUGHT I WASN'T DOING IT. SORRY.

JUST DO IT. I KNOW IT WASN'T. I THOUGHT I SAID I WAS, I WAS.

AS WE'RE GATHERED HERE TOGETHER WE ASK THAT WE COULD SERVE THE CITY OF SACHSE AS THE LIBRARY BOARD WITH WISDOM AND WITH ALL OF OUR DESIRE TO SERVE AND TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS THAT WE CAN.

AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU.

WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT. PLEDGES. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS. ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU. LET'S DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD REGARDING ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION ON PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS REGARDING ANY DISCUSSION.

ONLY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

THE TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SHOULD BE PREPARED AND PRESENTED TO THE ACTING SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING, THE BOARD IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA BUT WILL TAKE COMMENTS UPON ADVISEMENT.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? OKAY. NO. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

[1. Consider approving the February 9, 2026, meeting minutes.]

ACTION ITEMS ARE FOR THE BOARD DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION FOR ACTION.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL INVITE COMMENTS BEFORE THE BOARD VOTES.

WOULD ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ABOUT THE ITEM FOR CONSIDERING APPROVING THE FEBRUARY 9TH, 2026 MEETING MINUTES? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTER A MOTION FROM THE BOARD.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY 9TH MEETING MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? LAWAN-DIA RHODEN SECOND, APPROVING THE FEBRUARY 9TH, 2026 MEETING MINUTES.

OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

THIS ITEM. ON CONSIDERING APPROVING THE FEBRUARY 9TH, 2020 MEETING.

MINUTES HAS PASSED 6 TO 0 TO 0. RIGHT. THESE ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[1. Receive and discuss the Library Manager's monthly report.]

THESE ITEMS FOR THE BOARD AND STAFF TO DISCUSS AS NEEDED.

COMMENTS ON THE DISCUSSION ITEM SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE PUBLIC.

SO LET'S RECEIVE AND DISCUSS THE LIBRARY MANAGER'S MONTHLY REPORT.

RANDALL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE. THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE IN THE PACKET THIS MONTH THE STATS FOR JANUARY.

I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TO NOTE HERE. THE NUMBERS WILL REFLECT SOME OF THE, THE DATES WE WERE CLOSED DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER.

BUT EVEN DESPITE THAT, WE STILL HAD A GOOD PROGRAM ATTENDANCE AND GOOD CIRCULATION FOR THE MONTH.

FEBRUARY'S LUNAR NEW YEAR CELEBRATION. WE HAD 74 ATTENDEES AND WE HAD 31 ADULTS COME TO A CANDLE MAKING

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CLASS. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. IMPRESSIVE. THAT MANY ADULTS TO SHOW UP ON A WEEKNIGHT TO MAKE CANDLES.

YES. BUT YEAH, NOTHING, NOTHING TOO OUT OF THE ORDINARY ON OUR NUMBERS FOR JANUARY.

SO IF ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, COMMENTS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO COMMENT.

I JUST THINK THAT THE PROGRAMING THAT WE'RE OFFERING IS PRETTY, PRETTY AWESOME.

IT'S PRETTY DIVERSE AND IT SEEMS FUN. I WAS JUST TELLING THE LADIES I WAS THINKING ABOUT GOING TO THE PROGRAM THAT'S ON THE CALENDAR FOR TOMORROW, SO I THINK WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.

OH THANK YOU. I'LL BE SURE TO SHARE THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. EXCELLENT.

OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM, WHICH IS THE CURRENT LIBRARY POLICY ON BORROWER CARDS.

[2. Discuss the current Library policy on borrower cards.]

OKAY, WELL, I HADN'T INTENDED TO HAVE THIS ITEM UP FOR US TO TALK ABOUT THIS MONTH.

TABLE IT FOR NEXT MONTH. NO, BUT WE CAN STILL TALK ABOUT IT.

I'LL TELL YOU WHY IT'S ON OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

SO SINCE KIND OF SWITCHING TO LIBBY, I THINK WE'VE NOTICED AN INCREASE IN THE E-CARDS THAT WE DO. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, LET ME BACK UP TO GET A LIBRARY CARD AT SACHSE.

YOU CAN DO THAT IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. YOU CAN VISIT US IN PERSON AND SHOW YOUR ID.

FILL OUT A FORM, GET YOURSELF A LIBRARY CARD OR YOU CAN APPLY FOR A DIGITAL CARD ONLINE.

OKAY, FOR THE DIGITAL CARD THAT YOU CAN OBTAIN ONLINE, YOU JUST HAVE TO BE A TEXAS RESIDENT, JUST LIKE YOUR PHYSICAL LIBRARY CARD. IF YOU VISIT US IN PERSON, YOU JUST HAVE TO BE A TEXAS RESIDENT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN SACHSE. FOR THAT DIGITAL CARD, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME SEE US IN PERSON, AND YOU JUST HAVE TO BE A TEXAS RESIDENT. THAT OPENS UP DIGITAL CARDS TO PEOPLE ALL OVER THE STATE.

OKAY. SO YOU COULD LIVE NEXT DOOR TO US IN WYLIE, OR YOU COULD LIVE IN EL PASO AND YOU COULD APPLY FOR A DIGITAL CARD.

AND THAT CARD GIVES YOU ACCESS TO OUR ONLINE RESOURCES, SUCH AS EBOOKS AND OUR DATABASES AND ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS.

AND WE'VE NOTICED A TREND, I THINK IN THE PAST YEAR OF WE'VE BEEN SEEING MORE REQUESTS FOR THOSE DIGITAL CARDS.

AND IT WAS JUST KIND OF SOMETHING WE MADE A NOTE OF LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THOSE. LIBBY'S A POPULAR SERVICE.

AND WE'RE JUST SEEING MORE INTEREST IN THOSE.

I THINK DIGITAL CARDS FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO USE THE ONLINE RESOURCES.

OKAY. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, A, WE WERE FEATURED IN A SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEO THAT SOMEONE DID THAT WAS VERY NICE.

IT WAS VERY COMPLIMENTARY ABOUT THE LIBRARY, AND THEY MENTIONED THAT AS LONG AS YOU LIVE IN TEXAS, YOU CAN GET A FREE LIBRARY CARD WHEREVER YOU LIVE.

AND AGAIN, IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE, YOU KNOW, A NICE VIDEO.

BUT WE, I THINK DID A COUPLE HUNDRED E-CARDS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, AND I THINK WE MAY NEED TO REVISIT THE BORROWER POLICY BECAUSE IT WAS STARTED IN 2019 KIND OF AROUND A TIME WHEN FEWER PEOPLE WERE VISITING THE LIBRARY IN PERSON. AND IT WAS A WAY TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC AND GIVE PEOPLE ACCESS TO LIBRARY RESOURCES, EVEN THOUGH MAYBE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, COME VISIT US IN PERSON.

AND IT'S BEEN PART OF THE BORROWER POLICY EVER SINCE.

BUT I THINK GIVEN, YOU KNOW, OUR LIMITED BUDGET ON, ON EBOOKS AND ONLINE RESOURCES.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THIS SORT OF WIDE OPEN, UNLIMITED ACCESS TO PEOPLE ALL OVER THE STATE.

IT DID PROMPT US TO LOOK AROUND TO SEE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HOW OTHER LIBRARIES HANDLE THEIR LIBRARY CARD SIGN-UPS AND KIND OF IN OUR INITIAL SEARCH, I THINK HOUSTON IS THE ONLY ONE THAT I CAME ACROSS WHERE YOU CAN LIVE ANYWHERE IN TEXAS AND GET A FREE CARD AND NEVER HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, VISIT IN PERSON.

MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORING LIBRARIES HAVE SOME SORT OF, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN AND GET YOUR LIBRARY CARD OR MAYBE THERE'S AN E-CARD THAT'S FOR RESIDENTS ONLY.

AND WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT ALSO, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, DO WE CHARGE NON-RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW? THE LIBRARY CARDS ARE FREE. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THERE'S GOING TO PROBABLY NEED TO BE SOME SORT OF CONSTRAINT.

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FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN THIS AREA. AND I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON, YOU KNOW, WHERE CAN WE APPLY SOME BREAKS AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO STILL OF COURSE, SERVE OUR, OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. BUT MAYBE CURTAIL THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE REALLY FAR AWAY THAT ARE NOT OUR NEIGHBORS. WHEN THEY APPLY ONLINE FOR THE CARD.

DO THEY SHARE WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED? WE DO HAVE THEIR ADDRESS.

SO WE CAN SEE. YEAH, WE CAN SEE THE CITY. MAYBE RECOMMEND THEIR PUBLIC LIBRARIES.

OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INTEREST IN OURS. YOU LIVE IN EL PASO.

HERE'S THE EL PASO INFORMATION. YEAH. RANDALL, IS THERE A LIMIT TO THE BOOKS THAT THEY CAN BORROW ONLINE? I KNOW IN PERSON WE CAN BORROW MAYBE AT LEAST 100 BOOKS.

IS THERE A LIMIT TO THE BOOKS THEY CAN BORROW ONLINE? I THINK I THINK IT'S FIVE AT A TIME IN LIBBY.

FIVE CHECKOUTS AT A TIME. YEAH, IN THE LIBBY APP.

COULD THEY HAVE AN E-CARD FOR EACH PERSON IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD? MEANING IF IT'S FIVE PEOPLE, THAT'S 25 RESOURCES.

YES. POTENTIALLY THEY COULD. YES. THAT COULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RESTRICT PER HOUSEHOLD.

CARD FOR E-CARDS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.

OKAY. I KNOW ONE. THEY MAY LIVE AT THE SAME ADDRESS.

SO THERE'S KIND OF THAT. ARE YOU PART OF THE HOUSEHOLD OR WHAT IS A HOUSEHOLD, YOU KNOW, OR IF THERE'S MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME NUANCE, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD KIND OF DETERMINE OR WHAT WE WOULD ASK FOR AS FAR AS PROOF, LIKE WHAT'S A HOUSEHOLD OR WHO'S A MEMBER OF THE HOUSEHOLD OR NOT.

ABSOLUTELY. BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE CARD PER HOUSEHOLD IS SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE STATE, LIKE IN THE AREA? ONE CARD PER HOUSEHOLD.

THAT JUST SEEMS HARD TO ENFORCE. I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE THE WHOLE DISCUSSION NEXT TIME, SO I DON'T NEED TO.

I WAS JUST THINKING THAT IF FOR NEXT TIME FOR MORE IN-DEPTH DISCUSSIONS, SOME THINGS THAT IF POSSIBLE, YOU COULD BRING TO US. I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU ADD YOUR CARD, WE'RE PART OF THE NORTH TEXAS CONSORTIUM, RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? IN LIBBY, YEAH. SO MAYBE SEEING WHAT THE POLICIES ARE FOR THOSE OTHER.

I KNOW LIKE ROCKWALL IS PART OF THE CONSORTIUM.

I BELIEVE GARLAND IS AS WELL. IS THAT RIGHT? SO LIKE, WHAT'S THEIR POLICIES? BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST NOT FAIR FOR US TO ALLOW EVERYBODY ACCESS TO THE CONSORTIUM BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO RESOURCES FROM GARLAND AND ROCKWALL AND OTHER PLACES IN NORTH TEXAS.

SO MAYBE STARTING AT WHAT THEIR POLICIES ARE.

YEAH. TO KIND OF MAKE IT. SO WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT.

SIMILAR TO BE IN LIKE ALIGNED. SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL SHARING RESOURCES, BUT WE'RE ALL SHARING THEM IN A WAY THAT'S LIKE EQUAL TO EVERYBODY. I KNOW MCKINNEY HAS, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE AND YOU CAN GET AN ONLINE ONE, BUT YOU HAVE TO COME IN WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO JUST LIKE VERIFY.

SO YOU CAN GET IT ONLINE. BUT IF YOU DON'T COME WITHIN X AMOUNT OF TIMES, THEY'LL CANCEL YOUR DIGITAL CARD.

SO YEAH, JUST THROWING OUT THE LIMITS PER HOUSEHOLD. AS AN AVID USER MYSELF.

YOU KNOW, MY TEEN READS A CERTAIN KIND OF BOOKS.

MY YOUNGEST READS A CERTAIN KIND OF BOOKS. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT MY YOUNGEST SEEING WHAT I'M READING ON MY BOOKS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE ALL READ VERY DIFFERENT LEVELS OF THINGS.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND FOR NEXT TIME WHEN WE DO OUR MORE IN-DEPTH.

AND WE LOOKED AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU MENTIONED MCKINNEY.

THEY DO, I THINK FOR COLLIN COUNTY RESIDENTS IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, YOU CAN, YOU CAN PURCHASE LIKE A NON-RESIDENT CARD. GARLAND DOES NOT OFFER A DIGITAL CARD. YOU HAVE TO COME IN IN PERSON AND GET YOUR CARD.

THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT KIND OF ALL OVER. EVERYBODY'S KIND OF KIND OF DOING THEIR OWN THING, WHICH MAKES IT KIND OF DIFFICULT TO SAY, WELL, WE COULD FOLLOW THIS MODEL. THAT'S TRUE.

WYLIE, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO PICK UP YOUR YOU CAN APPLY ONLINE.

YOU GET A DIGITAL CARD THAT'S GOOD FOR SIX MONTHS, BUT THEN AFTER THAT IT EXPIRES.

THERE'S NO RESIDENT RESTRICTION. SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WYLIE DOES NOT HAVE A RESIDENCY RESTRICTION.

BUT AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY HAS TO COME GET A PHYSICAL CARD THOUGH, RIGHT? AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT AMONGST THE STAFF, JUST KIND OF, WE'VE BEEN BRAINSTORMING WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS.

AND I THINK ONE WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE YOU CAN APPLY FOR A LIBRARY CARD AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SET YOU UP WITH LIKE A DIGITAL ONE THAT'S TEMPORARY, AND YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO COME VISIT US AND GET YOUR PERMANENT CARD.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU'RE GOOD FOR. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN DALLAS AND YOU WANT A LIBRARY CARD,

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YOU CAN GET ONE. IF YOU'RE IN EL PASO IN TEXAS RESIDENT AND YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY OVER HERE TO GET YOUR CARD, YOU CAN. SO IT STILL LEAVES IT OPEN TO ALL TEXAS RESIDENTS, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

BUT IT DOES SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU HAVE TO COME GET YOUR CARD.

THAT IS JUST ONE OPTION. AND I DON'T YEAH, I DON'T THINK THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE TODAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET, GET THE DISCUSSION GOING.

YEAH, YEAH. IS THE VIDEO STILL UP RANDALL? I'M SORRY, THE VIDEO THAT STARTED THE.

IT WAS ON TIKTOK. IT'S, OH. YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING MORE AND MORE.

YES. I KNOW WHERE ALL THE FREE LIBRARY CARDS ARE YOU GUYS.

SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING NEXT MONTH IF YOU COULD BRING THE DATA, LIKE HOW MANY NEW ONLINE CARDS, HOW MANY ARE IN FROM SACHSE, HOW MANY ARE IN THE CLOSE PROXIMITY AND THEN WHAT PERCENTAGE OR HOW MANY ARE.

SO RIGHT NOW I CAN. FURTHER AWAY. IF A LIKE A SPREADSHEET OR SOMETHING WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT I CAN TELL YOU NOW WE HAVE ABOUT WE HAVE 16,562 BORROWERS IN OUR SYSTEM. SO 16,500 TOTAL.

OKAY. OF THAT 16,000, 2087 OR ABOUT 13% HAVE THE E-CARD.

OKAY. THE DIGITAL CARD ONLY. OKAY. SO ABOUT 13% E-CARD ONLY OF ALL OF OUR BORROWERS.

SO THAT'S 87% ACTUALLY HAVE VISITED US IN PERSON AND GOTTEN THEIR PHYSICAL CARD.

SO OF THOSE E-CARDS, THOSE 2087 E-CARDS, ABOUT 600 OF THOSE ARE SACHSE RESIDENTS. SO ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT PIE ARE OUR OWN SACHSE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE JUST ENJOYED THE CONVENIENCE OF I'M APPLYING ONLINE AND THEN THEY'RE USING ONLINE RESOURCES OR COMING TO PROGRAMS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IN TO CHECK OUT A BOOK PHYSICALLY.

FOR SURE. OKAY. AND THEN ANOTHER ROUGHLY ONE THIRD OR 600 ARE FROM OUR CLOSE NEIGHBORS LIKE GARLAND, WYLIE, MURPHY, ROWLETT, ROCKWALL, PLANO, AND RICHARDSON.

OKAY. THAT'S THE BULK OF OUR OUR NEARBY NEARBY GROUP.

SO IT'S ABOUT A THIRD FROM SACHSE, ANOTHER THIRD FROM KIND OF OUR IMMEDIATE BORDERING COMMUNITIES.

AND THEN AS YOU GET A LITTLE MORE PERIPHERAL, WE'D SAY THERE'S 45 CARDS FROM MCKINNEY RESIDENTS, 69 CARDS FROM RESIDENTS OF FORNEY, 38 FROM PRINCETON.

SO THESE LITTLE MORE ON THE KIND OF OUTSKIRTS OF OUR BUBBLE.

THEY'RE CLOSE, BUT THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW. NEIGHBORING. NEIGHBORING, YEAH.

AND THERE'S A FEW HUNDRED OF THOSE. AND THEN THERE'S A FEW HUNDRED FROM ONES THAT I WOULD SAY ARE LIKE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR.

OKAY. LIKE THERE'S 16 FROM ARLINGTON, 23 FROM HOUSTON, 13 FROM FORT WORTH, 14 FROM SAN ANTONIO.

AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN A FEW MORE OF THESE IN FREQUENCY OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

YEAH. KIND OF AS WE HAD OUR LITTLE 15 MINUTES OF FAME.

YEAH. SO YEAH, IT'S INTERESTING. MOST OF THEM ARE, ARE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT? ACTUALLY SACHSE. MOSTLY SACHSE AND WYLIE. THOSE ARE THE BIG THE TWO BIGGEST CITIES FOR THE E-CARDS.

SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE A CHANGE WHERE YOU WERE REQUIRED TO COME IN AND GET YOUR CARD.

MOST OF THOSE THAT HAVE THE E-CARDS ARE RIGHT HERE.

BUT I THINK, YEAH, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, EVEN EVEN BEYOND, YOU KNOW, 40 IN PRINCETON. YEAH. YOU KNOW, ARLINGTON, FORT WORTH.

AND IF THEY DON'T LIVE IN SACHSE PROPER, LIKE THE CITY, IS THEIR E-CARD RENEWABLE EVERY SIX MONTHS OR IS IT A YEAR? LIKE, IS THERE A TIME FRAME DIFFERENT? I BELIEVE THE TIME FRAME ON THE E-CARD IS THE SAME.

OKAY. LET'S SEE. LET'S SEE.

TWO YEARS. YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG-TIME FRAME.

THAT'S. THAT IS A LENGTH, YEAH. IT SURE IS. THAT'S VERY GENEROUS.

TWO YEARS IS VERY GENEROUS. IT IS. IT'S VERY GENEROUS.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GENEROUS FOR SACHSE RESIDENTS.

KNOW BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT WANT TO COME IN. I MEAN, THEY LIVE IT.

BUT FOR OTHER CITIES, I THINK IF YOU MENTIONED SOMEONE WAS SIX MONTHS, LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A,

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I DON'T KNOW. AND THEN IF YOU COULD COLLECT DATA ON, I KNOW ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE APPLYING FOR THE E-CARD, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW MANY OF THEM CHECK OUT BOOKS AND TO WHAT EXTENT LIKE IS IT A WHOLE BUNCH OR CHECKING OUT BOOKS WHICH LIMITS OUR ACCESS TO THEM? OR DID THEY ALL JUST APPLY FOR LIBRARY CARDS? BUT THEY ONLY CHECKED OUT FIVE BOOKS OUT OF THESE 100 PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A. SO FOR THIS LATEST KIND OF RUSH, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE WHILE TO SEE.

SO THOSE ARE STILL HAPPENING. I DID KIND OF JUST A QUICK KIND OF RANDOM CHECK TO SEE.

AND SO I WAS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, LAST IN THE FEBRUARY IN OVERDRIVE, THE, THE TOP BORROWERS IN FEBRUARY LIKE THE TOP 4 OR 5 WERE. THEY HAD THE REGULAR CARD, WHICH I KNOW AT LEAST ONE WAS A SEXY RESIDENT.

BUT AGAIN, AS LONG AS YOU COME IN, WHEREVER YOU LIVE, YOU CAN GET YOUR PHYSICAL CARD.

AND THEN ROUNDING OUT THE TOP TEN, I SAW THERE WERE QUITE A FEW OF THE DIGITAL CARDS AND OF THOSE, THOSE APPEAR TO BE MOSTLY NON SEXY RESIDENTS.

SO I WAS GOING TO SAY, I FEEL AS THOUGH PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO GET A RESOURCE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO UTILIZE THE RESOURCE.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE NONREADERS AREN'T GOING OUT SEARCHING FOR FREE LIBRARY CARDS TO GET LIKE ON THEIR LIBBY APP.

SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THOSE ARE ACTUALLY THE HIGH END USERS THAT ARE USUALLY GOING THROUGH BOOKS PRETTY QUICKLY IS WHAT I WOULD ASSUME.

YEAH. AND THE MISSION OF OUR, DO WE HAVE, WHAT WOULD BE OUR MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE LIBRARY.

IS THAT YOU. CAN REMIND ME OF IT.

OKAY, I DON'T THINK WE FEATURE THAT IN OUR LIBRARY POLICY.

AND WE CAN DELVE MORE INTO THIS NEXT MONTH. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF IT IS ABOUT SERVICING EVERYBODY IN TEXAS, THEN I DON'T KNOW.

I AM SOMEONE WHO HAS THE HARRIS COUNTY LIBRARY CARD.

OKAY. AND I HAVE HAD IT FOR THE LAST 5 OR 6 YEARS, EVER SINCE THE PANDEMIC.

AND I KNOW JUST AS A READER IN GENERAL, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE LIBRARY OFFERING THAT RESOURCE BECAUSE WHEN I GO ON, LIBBY, IF THERE'S NOT A BOOK ON THE NORTH TEXAS ONE AND I GO TO THE HARRIS COUNTY AND I'M ABLE TO FIND IT THERE, I'M ABLE TO GET THROUGH THESE BOOKS SO MUCH QUICKER, LIKE MORE QUICKLY.

AND I KNOW THAT THE HARRIS COUNTY'S BUDGET IS LIKE EXPONENTIALLY BIGGER THAN OURS BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH A SMALL TOWN.

I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS THE ACCESS IS ALSO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANT TO READ.

AND SO YEAH, IT'S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT. OKAY.

LET ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION REAL QUICK. SO THE MISSION STATEMENT IS WE LINK PEOPLE TO THE WORLD BY ENRICHING LIVES, CREATING COMMUNITY AND INSPIRING CURIOSITY. SO THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST DID THROUGH THE TIKTOK.

WE JUST. WE DID THAT, SO. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR BROAD MISSION.

OKAY. ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO LIBBY, RIGHT, IS YOU HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT LIBRARIES, 90% MARKET SHARE FOR LIBRARY DOWNLOADABLE BOOKS. THEY ARE, THEY'RE THE BIG, THE BIG ONES.

OKAY. SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT LIBRARIES THAT ARE IN THAT ECOSYSTEM.

AND SO YOU HAVE YOUR CARD. YOU'RE IN LIBBY. YOU CAN ADD THAT CARD TO ALL YOUR ALL YOUR LIBRARY CARDS IN ONE APP.

AND IT GIVES YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, A CONVENIENT ACCESS TO MULTIPLE COLLECTIONS.

SO YOU CAN BE ON, YOU KNOW, CHECKING THINGS OUT FROM DIFFERENT LIBRARIES. YOU CAN HAVE THINGS ON HOLD WITH ONE AND WAITING ON SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THAT IS A GREAT BENEFIT TO NOT RESTRICTING AND TO BEING PART OF KIND OF, IT'S EVEN BEYOND JUST YOUR CONSORTIUM, BUT BEING PART OF THAT NETWORK, IT MAKES IT REALLY CONVENIENT TO ACCESS THOSE RESOURCES.

AND ON THE OTHER HAND, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, AS BROAD AS OUR MISSION IS ALSO OUR FOCUS BE ON THE BEST EXPERIENCE TO OUR RESIDENTS AS POSSIBLE.

BECAUSE FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU KNOW, WE SERVE THE CITIZENS OF SACHSE.

SO I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT INFORMATION CAN I BRING TO OUR NEXT DISCUSSION? AS FAR AS WHAT I GUESS, TYPES OF STATS OR THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT AND I'D LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK

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ON, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST YOUR THOUGHTS. AND AGAIN, IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF CARDS FOR RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS ARE YOU OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, DO WE CHARGE NONRESIDENTS? WHAT DOES THAT FEE LOOK LIKE? SO I'M LOOKING FOR, I'M LOOKING FOR YOUR OPINION ON WHAT I CAN BRING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WE KIND OF TRY AND MAKE SENSE OF THIS AND FIND SOMETHING THAT'S. I THINK WE WANT TO FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW THE BEST POSSIBLE EXPERIENCE WE CAN FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO EMBRACING KIND OF THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL LIVE AND WORK AND, AND THIS PART OF NORTH TEXAS, ESPECIALLY LIKE, I MEAN, I HAVE CARDS WITH ALLEN AND PLANO AND GARLAND AND, YOU KNOW.

YEAH. I THINK FOR ME, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW, IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY PROS THAT CAN COME FROM US GETTING VIRAL WITH THIS ATTENTION? CAN WE BENEFIT OFF OF IT IN ANY WAY TO BOOST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING AT OUR LIBRARY? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN ADDITION TO THE DATA, YOU KNOW, AND WHO'S USING WHAT CARDS AND IS IT REALLY TAKING AWAY FROM OUR RESIDENTS OR NOT? HOW CAN WE BENEFIT OFF OF THE ATTENTION THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THIS? HOW CAN THAT HELP US WITH ANY PROGRAMING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON? I THINK EXPOSURE IS GOOD FOR YOU KNOW, GETTING AWARENESS.

I KNOW THEY MENTIONED OUR OUR STORY TIMES AND OUR CHILDREN'S AREA IN THE VIDEO.

COOL. SO PEOPLE SEEING THAT YOU MAY WANT TO COME TO A STORYTIME OR ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS. AND I THINK, I THINK THAT EXPOSURE IS GOOD. SO YEAH, ON ONE HAND, IT WAS, WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, OH, THAT'S, THAT WAS A LOT OF EXPOSURE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE CARDS.

BUT YEAH, IT'S GREAT TO, TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE AT OUR EVENTS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, COMING INTO THE BUILDING AND MAKING USE OF THE RESOURCES.

SO I DO THINK IT WAS, IT WAS GOOD. BUT THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO NEED TO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY AND.

BEING PROACTIVE. YEAH, AND I THINK WITH THIS KIND OF SUDDEN, INTENSE INTEREST THAT WE GOT, IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE PROBABLY JUST NEED TO LOOK AT IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

YEAH. I THINK DATA WISE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN LOOK AT IT ON LIBBY.

I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN THE BACK END OF IT, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY TO LOOK AT WAIT TIMES LIKE.

AND SO IF YOU CAN LOOK TO SEE WHAT HAVE THE WAIT TIMES LOOKED LIKE IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, HAVE WAIT TIMES INCREASED FOR OUR PATRONS? HAS IT MADE THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF WAITING TWO WEEKS NOW I'M WAITING TWO MONTHS FOR A BOOK.

BECAUSE THAT REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. SO MAYBE BEING ABLE TO SEE IF THIS HAS IMPACTED THAT.

OKAY. AND TO PIGGYBACK FROM THAT. HOW MANY RESOURCES DO WE HAVE? AND THEN IF DO WE PAY EXTRA TO BRING MORE BOOKS INTO THE ALLOTMENT.

IF YOU KNOW, SO MANY BOOKS ARE POPULAR AND THEY'RE CHECKED OUT.

WE NEED MORE OF A CERTAIN GENRE. HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN IT COMES TO OUR E-RESOURCES? YEAH. SO WE WE PAY FOR LICENSES. SO LET'S SAY IF THERE WAS, MAYBE WE HAVE ONE COPY OF AN EBOOK AND SOMEBODY HAS IT CHECKED OUT, THEN ANYBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED IS GOING TO SAY, I'M GOING TO BE ON HOLD FOR THIS.

OKAY, SO MAYBE YOU'VE GOT 5 OR 6 PEOPLE WAITING ON HOLD AND YOU'VE GOT ONE COPY AND THAT'S NOT TOO BAD.

YOU KNOW, IF IT'S 14 DAYS AND YOU KNOW THOSE, THOSE CHECK BACK IN AUTOMATICALLY, RIGHT? SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING THE BOOK, BUT YOU'RE NOT WAITING ON THAT.

BUT THEN YOU GET UP TO, WELL, NOW THERE'S TEN OR 12 OR 20 PEOPLE WAITING ON A SINGLE COPY AND I'M SURE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU USED LIBBY BEFORE YOU KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THE WEIGHTS CAN GET REALLY, REALLY LONG.

SO YOU CAN PURCHASE AN ADDITIONAL LICENSE. OKAY.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER COPY OF THE BOOK, JUST LIKE ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER COPY ON THE SHELF, THAT MEANS SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO YOUR WAIT TIME IS GOING TO GO DOWN.

BUT EBOOKS ARE EXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY AUDIO. THE DOWNLOADABLE AUDIOBOOKS MIGHT BE $100 FOR ONE LICENSE.

SO THAT COULD IMPACT COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT. IT ABSOLUTELY WILL.

YES. AND THAT'S PER YEAR. THE LICENSE PER YEAR, OR IS THAT? THEY GIVE YOU DIFFERENT OPTIONS. SO YOU MIGHT DO A 12-MONTH LICENSE.

YOU MIGHT DO 24 MONTHS. IT DOES KIND OF DEPEND ON THE PUBLISHER'S AGREEMENT.

SO YEAH. YEAH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE WAIT TIME TO SEE IF THAT'S INCREASED AND THEN POSSIBLY FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, IF THERE'S A QUEUE OF WAITERS, LIKE PEOPLE IF WE'RE ALL IN LINE AND MEGHAN LIVES IN SEXY AND THE REST OF US DON'T, COULD SHE BE SCOOTED TO THE TOP OF THE WAIT LIST? YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU FLY ON AIRPLANES, YOU GET PRIORITY BASED ON HOW MUCH YOU FLY.

I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS APPROPRIATE. I'M JUST SAYING I'M TOSSING IT OUT AS A THOUGHT.

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IF THERE'S TEN OF US WAITING IN LINE FOR A BOOK AND SHE LIVES IN SACHSE, COULD SHE GET A DIFFERENT PRIORITY FOR BORROWING THE BOOK THEN OTHER? I DON'T KNOW. I CAN TELL YOU.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO RANK OR MOVE.

I DON'T KNOW THE WAY IT WORKS WITH OVERDRIVE WITH LIBBY IS WE CAN PURCHASE ADDITIONAL COPIES OR WE CAN PURCHASE COPIES OF SOMETHING FOR OUR BORROWERS, PATRONS THAT HAVE OUR LIBRARY CARD.

OKAY. AND THAT MEANS THAT SO WE MIGHT HAVE COPIES JUST FOR OUR BORROWERS THAT OTHERS INSIDE THE CONSORTIUM DON'T GET FIRST CHANCE AT. BUT IF THEY LIVE IN SAN ANTONIO AND THEY HAVE A SACHSE LIBRARY CARD BECAUSE THEY ACQUIRED THAT E-CARD ONLINE, THEY HAVE THE SAME ACCESS AS. OKAY, YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS CURIOUS.

SO IT GIVES THEM AN ADVANTAGE VERSUS THOSE PEOPLE IN YOUR CONSORTIUM THAT.

RIGHT. BUT IF THEY HAVE THE SEXY CARD TOO, THEN THEY'RE ALSO AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE.

AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE MISSION STATEMENT LINKING PEOPLE TO THE WORLD.

YEAH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS OR WE'RE GOING TO, I KNOW WE'RE TABLING IT FOR NEXT MONTH, BUT DID YOU GET ENOUGH IDEAS FOR POSSIBLE DATA THAT YOU MIGHT NEED? SO I THINK I'M GOING TO COME BACK. I'LL HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON MAYBE WHAT WE OBSERVE HAPPENING TO THE WAIT TIMES OR SEE WHAT THE HOLDS RATIO LOOKS LIKE. SO WE'LL TRY TO COLLECT SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.

I'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH LEISURE SERVICES AND GET SOME INPUT ON MAYBE KIND OF HOW CITY MANAGEMENT IS FEELING ABOUT PREFERENCE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER FOR A RESIDENT VERSUS NONRESIDENT.

AND YOU JUST KIND OF CONTINUE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET IDEAS FROM, FROM OUR NEIGHBORS.

BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I GUESS ONE MORE. SORRY.

I JUST THOUGHT OF ONE MORE THING. I'M NOT SURE, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS MCKINNEY OR GARLAND THAT REQUIRES THEM TO COME IN WITHIN SIX MONTHS TO GET AN ACTUAL LIBRARY CARD.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE YOU SAID. LET'S SEE, MCKINNEY.

LET'S SEE. OH, I KNOW WYLIE, THEY GIVE YOU SIX MONTHS.

YOU GET SIX MONTHS. IF THERE WAS ANY POSSIBLE WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD GIVE YOU THIS DATA, BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO SEE IF WYLIE COULD TELL US WHAT, LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME IN TO GET THE PHYSICAL, LIKE THEY SIGN UP, THEY GET THE SIX MONTHS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME IN TO GET IT BECAUSE I DON'T.

AND SO LIKE, EVEN IF IT'S A SHORT DRIVE, LIKE I WANT MY PLANO AND EXPIRED, MY MCKINNEY ONE EXPIRED BECAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE DRIVE. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US LIKE, OKAY, FINE, YOU CAN SIGN UP, BUT IF YOU DON'T DRIVE, I MEAN, THAT'S ALREADY CUTTING OUT 90% OF PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S JUST A REALLY EASY POLICY DECISION.

I FEEL LIKE IF WE COULD GET THE NUMBERS FROM SOMEBODY ELSE AND SEE LIKE WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE WAS. SO WHAT KIND OF WHAT'S TYPICAL IF THOSE, IF THOSE DIGITAL CARDS ACTUALLY TRANSLATE INTO EXACTLY THEIR PHYSICAL ONES? OKAY. AND IF THAT WERE SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT.

I THINK THAT THE WINDOW THAT WE GIVE THEM THAT GRACE PERIOD IS ALSO, I THINK, IMPORTANT TO ME.

SIX MONTHS SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME. BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU WERE, I DON'T KNOW, OUTSIDE THE AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STATE AND YOU DON'T EVER INTEND TO ACTUALLY COME IN TO GET YOUR PHYSICAL CARD, YOU'VE GOT ACCESS FOR SIX MONTHS.

THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. I THINK IF IT WERE, WHICH MIGHT BE WORTH IT, YOU KNOW, TO, I GUESS, FAKE YOUR INTENT OR YOUR RESIDENCY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND GET SIX MONTHS FOR, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER LIBRARIES, YOU KNOW, LIBBY ACCOUNT.

BUT THAT JUST MEANS THOUGH, THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO READ AND THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR MISSION STATEMENT.

SO I MEAN, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE IN THE SIX MONTHS, IF THEY LIVE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, THEY MAY DECIDE, HEY, WE'RE BENEFITING SO MUCH FROM THE LIBRARY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE THE 10-15 MILES OR HOWEVER LONG IT IS TO COME IN PERSON TO GET IT RIGHT. BUT IT GIVES THEM KIND OF LIKE A TRIAL PERIOD OF BUT YEAH, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IMPACTING THE CURRENT RESIDENCES SO MUCH, THAT WOULD BE A.

YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

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WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM. WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE LIBRARY BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS REGARDING SPECIAL EVENTS,

[3. Discuss Library Board announcements regarding special events, current activities, and local achievements.]

CURRENT ACTIVITIES, AND LOCAL ACHIEVEMENTS. OKAY.

WELL, THIS IS LESS BRAIN INTENSIVE, I PROMISE.

LET'S SEE COMING UP SOME FUN ACTIVITIES IN MARCH.

OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT OUR REGULAR STORYTIMES. WE'VE GOT CROCHET CLUB AND HOMESCHOOL HANGOUTS.

WEDNESDAY THE TRY A HOBBY WILL BE DOING A FAUX WOOD BURNING CRAFT.

I THINK THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FUN. NEXT WEEK IS SPRING BREAK FOR MANY OF OUR NEARBY SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND WE'RE STARTING THINGS OFF WITH A KIDS CRAFTERNOON ON MONDAY THE 16TH.

AND THEN TUESDAY IS OUR HARRY POTTER NIGHT. IT'LL BE A FUN EVENT.

IT'S A FAMILY ALL AGES EVENT. HARRY POTTER ON TUESDAY.

MAKE AND MINGLE WEDNESDAY IS MAKING PAPER CRAFT HOUSE PLANTS AND WE HAVE A PLUSHIE PICNIC THURSDAY EVENING.

ON FRIDAY IS OUR SPY CAMP, OUR SECRET AGENT CAMP.

IT'S A MIX OF LIKE SKILL BASED CHALLENGES AND BRAIN TEASING ACTIVITIES.

AND THEN ON SATURDAY, A BTS LISTENING PARTY TO CELEBRATE THEIR NEW ALBUM.

SO JUST SOMETHING GOING ON ALL WEEK DURING SPRING BREAK AND OUR REGULAR PROGRAMS LINED UP FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH.

WE DO HAVE VOLUNTEER APPLICATIONS OPENING AT THE BEGINNING OF APRIL, AND THOSE WILL REMAIN OPEN THROUGH THE 16TH.

AND WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE ON OUR ACCREDITATION APPLICATION THAT IT WAS RECEIVED AND MET THE REQUIRED MINIMUMS, BUT WE SHOULD GET A FORMAL CONFIRMATION SOMETIME IN LATE SPRING.

BUT IT WAS A TENTATIVE LIKE, YOU'RE GOOD. SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY PROBLEMS THERE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT COMING UP IN MARCH.

IS THERE AGES FOR THE SPY CAMP? IS THEIR AGE RANGE.

I FORGOT TO LOOK LIKE ELEMENTARY. ELEMENTARY.

YEAH. AGES. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THINGS PLANNED.

THEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE FAUX WOOD BURNING.

I DO. I WANT TO GO. IF I MAKE IT BACK ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN AFTER WORK TOMORROW, I'M GOING TO POP IN.

I THINK THAT'LL BE COOL. DO WE KNOW HOW THEY'RE BURNING THE WOOD FACE? OH, YES. SO IT'S NOT A REAL BURN. IT'S NOT REAL.

OH, RIGHT. IT'S CALLED A TORCH PASTE. SO IT'S A PASTE THAT YOU CAN APPLY WITH A STENCIL, OR A BRUSH. AND ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR DESIGN DOWN WITH THE PASTE YOU APPLY.

WE HAVE A HEAT GUN. SO THE HEAT GUN ACTIVATES THE PASTE.

AND SO IT REALLY IT LOOKS LIKE YOU USED LIKE A WOOD BURNING TOOL, BUT THERE'S NO FLAMES.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE. RIGHT. I THINK I SAW THAT AT A MAD SCIENCE EVENT BEFORE.

SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. IT'S LIKE MAD SCIENCE, I LOVE IT.

THAT'S COOL. IS THERE AN AGE LIMIT FOR THAT? IS THAT JUST ADULT ONLY? THAT ONE'S AS ADULTS. YEAH. BECAUSE THE HEAT GUN, WHILE THERE'S NO IT DOES GET IT GET HOT.

SO WE'RE LIKE, WELL, WE'LL JUST DO WE'LL DO ADULTS FOR THIS ONE.

ADULTS AND TEENS. YEAH. GOT IT. EXCELLENT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THEN THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7:40 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.