[A. Meeting Opening]
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I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE OUT TO THE SACHSE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026.
WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:30 PM.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM TWO INVOCATION AND PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.
I'VE ASKED MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS TO OFFER THE INVOCATION AND MR. PRESTENBERG TO LEAD THE PLEDGES IF YOU WILL PLEASE RISE.
YOUR LORD, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO GATHER TONIGHT AS WE PLAN AND PREPARE OUR CITY FOR OUR FUTURE.
ALLOW US TO HEAR EACH OTHER, LISTEN TO EACH OTHER'S ARGUMENTS AND MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR FUTURE AS A CITY.
I ALWAYS ASK YOU TO LOOK OUT FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY FUNCTIONS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
I ASK THAT YOU LOOK OUT FOR ALL THE MILITARY MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND AGAIN JUST BE WITH US AND GIVE US THE WISDOM AND STRENGTH AND THE GUIDANCE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR FUTURE.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.
[B. Recognition]
ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM B, RECOGNITION.ITEM ONE, PRESENT A PROCLAMATION TO THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK, RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER AS HUNGER ACTION MONTH AND THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE.
IF I COULD HAVE MS. COPE COME DOWN AND JOIN US.
DO I SEE HER? NO? I'M LOOKING FOR HER.
WELL, I'M STILL GOING TO GO DOWN AND READ PROCLAMATION.
OKAY, WELL, EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T PLANNING ON DOING THIS SOLO, IT IS FOR A WORTHY CAUSE.
SO THIS IS HUNGER ACTION MONTH, AND THIS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2007 BY THE FEEDING AMERICA GROUP, AND THEY WORK TO PROVIDE OR PROMOTE WAYS FOR INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS, AND COMMUNITIES EVERYWHERE TO GET INVOLVED AND TO HELP THE HUNGER CRISIS.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME STATS THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, THE NATIONWIDE CAMPAIGN STRIVES TO MOBILIZE THE PUBLIC INTO ACTING ON THE ISSUE OF HUNGER AND HELP MORE THAN 14 MILLION CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE FOOD INSECURE.
LOCALLY, ONE IN FIVE OR 19.2% OF DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENTS AND ONE IN EIGHT OR 12.9% OF COLLIN COUNTY RESIDENTS STRUGGLE WITH FOOD INSECURITY.
SO THE SACHSE HAS PARTNERED WITH THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK FOR MANY YEARS AS PART OF HUNGER ACTION MONTH.
AND A LITTLE BIT MORE POSITIVE FUN NOTE, THE PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED.
IT STARTED ON SEPTEMBER 1ST AND GOES THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, I BELIEVE THE COLLECTION POINT IS OUT THERE.
AND IT'S NOT VERY COMPLICATED.
WE JUST COLLECT PEANUT BUTTER FOR NEEDY FAMILIES.
AND SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A FRIENDLY COMPETITION.
COMPETITION BEING THE EMPHASIZED WORD THERE.
SO I'VE KNOWN MS. COPE FOR A LONG TIME.
SO I GAVE THEM ALL THE STATS ALREADY.
AND SO I'M GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION AND I'M GOING TO LET YOU TALK.
AND SO I WAS JUST TELLING THEM ABOUT WE HAVE JUST STARTED THE PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE AND WE HAVE A FRIENDLY COMPETITION WITH THE CITY OF ROWLETT.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THE MAYOR OF ROWLETT, JEFF WINTGET, SHARES A NAME THAT I SHARE, JEFF.
AND SO IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE GREAT VIDEO THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM PUT TOGETHER THAT IS ONLINE, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH FIND IT ANYWHERE.
AND WE HAD A FUN LITTLE PLAY ON JEFF AND JEFF PEANUT BUTTER.
HOWEVER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DONATE JEFF PEANUT BUTTER.
YOU CAN DONATE ANY PEANUT BUTTER YOU WANT.
BUT WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN I WANT TO LET MS. COPE SAY A FEW WORDS.
WHEREAS HUNGER ACTION MONTH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2007 BY FEEDING AMERICA AND WORKS TO PROMOTE WAYS FOR INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITIES EVERYWHERE TO GET INVOLVED AND HELP FIGHT THE HUNGER CRISIS.
WHEREAS A NATIONWIDE CAMPAIGN STRIVES TO MOBILIZE THE PUBLIC INTO ACTING ON THE ISSUE OF HUNGER AND HELP BE MORE THAN 47 MILLION PEOPLE, INCLUDING 14 MILLION CHILDREN, WHO ARE FOOD INSECURE.
LOCALLY, ONE IN FIVE PEOPLE, OR 19.2% OF DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENTS, OR ONE IN EIGHT PEOPLE, OR 12.9% OF COLLIN COUNTY RESIDENTS, STRUGGLE WITH FOOD INSECURITY.
AND WHEREAS TO RAISE AWARENESS
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AND CURB THIS TREND, SACHSE IS JOINING WITH ALL OF NORTH TEXAS TO PROMOTE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK'S ANNUAL PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE, EITHER VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON WITH THE GOAL OF RAISING 100,000 POUNDS OF PEANUT BUTTER AND $400,000 TO CONTINUE EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.AND WHEREAS THE RESIDENTS OF CITY OF SACHSE HAVE ALWAYS GIVEN GENEROUSLY WITH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LOVE TOWARDS EFFORTS TO CARE FOR THOSE IN NEED.
AND THE SACHSE CITY COUNCIL CALLS SACHSE INTO ACTION TO GET INVOLVED IN EVENTS LIKE THE PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE AND MORE.
NOW THEREFORE, I JEFF BICKERSTAFF, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SACHSE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AS HUNGER ACTION MONTH IN SACHSE AND ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS TO JOIN THE SACHSE CITY COUNCIL AND THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK TO HELP ERADICATE HUNGER IN OUR CITY, COUNTY, STATE AND NATION.
IT IS AN HONOR TO GET TO SPEAK TO YOU BECAUSE I WANT TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE EVERY YEAR.
SACHSE HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE PARTNER FOR US AND WE CAN'T DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT THE CITY'S SUPPORT AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, IF WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT ALREADY, WHY PEANUT BUTTER? PEANUT BUTTER IS A NUTRITIOUS SOURCE OF PROTEIN AND IT'S SHELF STABLE.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR OVER 400 FOOD PANTRIES THAT ARE NEIGHBOR FACING.
SO THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK IS THE RESOURCE FOR FREE FOOD FOR THOSE PARTNERS TO THEN HAND IT OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT NEED A LITTLE HELP.
I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE HAVING THIS COME FROM THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS SO IMPORTANT TO LET THE CITY KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND THAT YOU ARE A PARTNER OF OURS.
I ALSO THOUGHT THE JEFF JEFF THING WAS HILARIOUS.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE VIDEO, YOU SHOULD WATCH IT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST PEANUT BUTTER.
IT CAN BE ANY KIND OF NUT BUTTER, PEANUT BUTTER, JUST AS LONG AS IT'S NOT MIXED WITH HONEY OR JELLY OR CHOCOLATE JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THE MOST NUTRITIOUS FOOD WE CAN TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND KIDS.
UNFORTUNATELY, ONE IN FOUR KIDS IN TEXAS IS FOOD INSECURE.
THAT'S UP FROM ONE IN FIVE LAST YEAR.
SO THAT'S VERY IT'S A VERY TOUGH STAT.
AND I AM EXCITED THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO JOIN US TO HELP DO YOUR PART IN FIGHTING THAT STAT.
AND TO PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT MISS COPE WAS SAYING, IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN OUT TO THE NORTH TEXAS SWEETBANKS FACILITY ON THE GEORGE FRIST HIGHWAY, IT IS QUITE THE OPERATION THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER.
THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER EVERY DAY, REALLY.
AND THEY DEPEND ON VOLUNTEERS TO GET THE FOOD DISTRIBUTED.
SO IF YOU EVER WANNA SEE FIRSTHAND THE OPERATION THEY HAVE, THEN MS. COPE IS THE PERSON YOU CAN TALK TO.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM C, PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION OR PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMENTS REGARDING THE CONSENT AGENDA OR ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
THE TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SHALL BE PRESENTED TO THE CHIEF SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, COUNCIL IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA BUT WILL TAKE COMMENTS UNDER ADVISEMENT.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS FOR TONIGHT.
[D. Council/Staff Reports and Updates]
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM D, COUNCIL STAFF REPORTS AND UPDATES.ITEM ONE, REPORT ON PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE AUGUST 17TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS FROM THAT MEETING.
THE FIRST COMMENTS WERE FROM MATTHEW HOBLICK.
FIRST, MR. HOBLICK REFERENCED THE FACT THAT THE CONTRACT FOR WILLIFORD ROAD HAD BEEN LET AND ASKED, QUOTE, WHEN'S THAT ROAD GOING TO BE FINISHED? END QUOTE.
THE CONTRACT STATES THAT THE SCHEDULE IS 396 CALENDAR DAYS TO SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION FROM THE NOTICE TO PROCEED, PLUS 15 CALENDAR DAYS TO FINAL COMPLETION OR ROUGHLY DURING THE FOURTH QUARTER OF
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2027, DROUGHTS AND FLOODS NOTWITHSTANDING.SECOND, MR. HOBLICK ASKED ABOUT THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S SO-CALLED DOUBLE NICKEL PROPERTY TAX PROPOSAL AND SAID, QUOTE, AT AGE 55, YOUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING TO GET FROZEN, END QUOTE.
THAT PROPOSAL FROM THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IS AIMED AT SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY TAXES, NOT CITY PROPERTY TAXES.
REGARDLESS, OUR AWARD-WINNING STAFF REVIEWS ALL PROPOSALS FROM THE LEGISLATURE WELL BEFORE THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT SACHSE AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY.
FINALLY, MR. HOBLICK SAID, QUOTE, STILL WAITING TO HEAR HOW MANY SPEED HUMPS WERE ON HIGH RIDGE ALLEY, END QUOTE.
AND AGAIN, ACCUSED US OF, QUOTE, HIDING BEHIND LIES, END QUOTE.
THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES PRIOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
MR. HOBLICK WAS PRESENT AT TWO OF THOSE MEETINGS.
SO AT THIS POINT, I CAN ONLY CONCLUDE MR. HOBLICK EITHER HAS NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION OR DOES NOT LIKE THE ANSWER.
THE NEXT COMMENTS WERE FROM ROBERT HARRIS.
MR. HARRIS REPEATED CONCERNS ABOUT A RECENT RULING FROM THE SACHSE MUNICIPAL COURT, DETERMINING THAT THERE WERE CODE VIOLATIONS ON MR. HARRIS' PROPERTY AND ADDRESSED HIS ATTEMPT TO SECURE A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A POLE BARN.
I DID ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS AT THE AUGUST 3RD, 2026 COUNCIL MEETING.
THE NEXT COMMENT WAS FROM TIM BROOKS.
MR. BROOKS CONTINUED TO SHARE HIS CONCERNS REGARDING STREET NAMING STANDARDS.
TO DATE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO COUNCIL INTEREST IN PURSUING A STREET NAMING POLICY.
THE NEXT COMMENT WAS FROM NGUYEN DAO.
MR. DAO, A RESIDENT OF THE STATION RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT WATER POOLING ON THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME AND ASKED WHETHER THE ISSUE COULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE STATION'S PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT MAINTENANCE PLAN.
MR. DAO WAS CORRECT THAT THE PID PLAN IDENTIFIES SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE AMONG THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY BE MAINTAINED WITH PID FUNDS.
HOWEVER, THE PLAN DOES NOT ADDRESS WATER THAT POOLS ON OR DRAINS FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHERE THE SOURCE OF THE WATER POOLING ORIGINATED.
STAFF HAS CONTACTED MR. DAO TO EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS.
THE FINAL COMMENTS WERE FROM JANE REED.
MISS REED ASKED ABOUT THE CURB IN FRONT OF 2204 CORNWALL LANE AND WHETHER FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR A BOND PROGRAM.
CORNWALL LANE WAS INCLUDED IN THE CITY'S 2025 ASPHALT REHABILITATION WORK, BUT THAT RESURFACING DID NOT INCLUDE CURB REPLACEMENT.
AT THIS TIME, THERE ARE NO PLANS REGARDING CORNWALL LANE ADDRESSED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR AS PART OF A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM.
MISS REED ALSO RAISED A CONCERN WITH THE LEFT TURN SIGNAL AT BEN DAVIS ROAD ONTO STATE HIGHWAY 78.
BECAUSE HIGHWAY 78 IS A STATE HIGHWAY, TXDOT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT SIGNAL, INCLUDING ITS VEHICLE DETECTION EQUIPMENT AND TIMING.
WHILE THE CITY CANNOT DIRECTLY REPROGRAM IT, STAFF HAS RELAYED THESE CONCERNS TO TXDOT FOR EVALUATION.
THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS I HAD FROM THE AUGUST 17TH MEETING.
WOULD ANYONE ON COUNCIL LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS MADE AT THAT MEETING? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON.
I ALSO BELIEVE THERE WAS A COMMENT LAST TIME IN THE SAME CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE PAINTING OF THE ACTUAL CONCRETE.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE'VE LOOKED INTO OR IS THAT ALSO TXDOT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PAINT THE CURBS THERE, BRIGHT YELLOW? IT'S PART OF THE QUIET ZONE FOR THE RAILROAD, AND SO THAT'S WHAT TXDOT REQUIRES.
SO IT IS WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE MET FOR THE QUIET ZONE.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THE PAINTING IS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT.
OKAY, SO IN OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THEM ALSO, YES, WE WANNA LOOK AT THE TIMING OF THE LIGHTS, BUT ALSO THE VIEWABILITY, IF THAT'S THE WORD, OF THE CURBS AND WHATNOT.
WE COULD, I KNOW STAFF CAN MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
ARE YOU READY FOR PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE HAVE, WELL, THEY'RE NEXT.
OKAY, ANYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS FROM AUGUST 17TH? OKAY.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM TWO, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ANNOUNCEMENTS REGARDING SPECIAL EVENTS, CURRENT ACTIVITIES, AND LOCAL ACHIEVEMENTS.
ANYONE ON COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE AUDIENCE AT THIS TIME? MS. BUHLER.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM FOR THE WONDERFUL MOTHER AND SON WILD WEST ROUNDUP THEY HOSTED LAST WEEKEND.
THERE WERE GAMES, A BOUNCE HOUSE, A MECHANICAL BULL, A LASSO PERFORMER, AND SO MUCH MORE.
THIS EVENT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS, AND JUST, I TRULY APPRECIATE ALL THE CARE AND THOUGHTS THEY POUR INTO THIS EVENT.
I HAVE A COUPLE FUTURE PARKS AND RECREATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS AS WELL.
WE WILL HOST A POP-UP PARK AT FIREFIGHTERS PARK ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, FROM SIX TO 7.30 P.M.
THIS COME AND GO EVENT FEATURES FUN, GAMES, AND MUSIC, A GREAT WAY TO ENJOY AN EVENING OUTDOORS
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WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.FIREFIGHTER PARK IS LOCATED AT 2837 FIFTH STREET, SACHSE, TEXAS.
THIS EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
NEXT UP, WE HAVE GRANDPARENTS ARE INVITED TO BRING THEIR PRESCHOOL AGE GRANDCHILDREN FOR A SPECIAL GRANDPARENTS DAY CELEBRATION ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, FEATURING FOUR FREE ACTIVITIES HOSTED ACROSS SACHSE'S LEISURE SERVICE DIVISION.
THIS IS A WONDERFUL MORNING OUT FOR GRANDPARENTS AND GRANDCHILDREN TO ENJOY TOGETHER.
AT 9.30 A.M., THERE'S STORY TIME AT THE SACHSE PUBLIC LIBRARY.
9.45 A.M., THERE'S DONUTS AT THE SACHSE SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER.
10 A.M., THERE'S TODDLER TIME AT THE MICHAEL J. FELIX COMMUNITY CENTER GYM, AND 11 A.M., A FURRY FAREWELL AT THE SACHSE ANIMAL SHELTER WHERE FAMILIES CAN VISIT WITH ADOPTABLE PETS.
RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO FOLLOW ALONG FOR MORE DETAILS ON THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNEL AND WEBSITE.
DEUCE HAS FINALLY FOUND US FOREVER HOME.
OUR LONGEST TENURED PUP, AFTER TWO YEARS, HAS DEFINITELY FOUND HIS HOME.
HIS NEW FAMILY REPORT SAID HE'S A BALL OF ENERGY, LOVES TO CUDDLE.
WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT HE HAD HIM IN IT.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO SHARED A STORY, CAME OUT TO MEET HIM AND CHEERED HIM OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
THIS ONE MEANS A LOT TO EVERYBODY, ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN IN THERE AND SEEN HIM.
CAMILLA IS A SPECIAL GIRL WITH A GENERAL NATURE.
PLAYFUL SPIRIT, HEART OF GOLD, ADULT GERMAN SHEPHERD MIXED, AFFECTIONATE, LOYAL, ALSO HAS AN INDEPENDENT SIDE AND IS HAPPY TO GIVE YOU SPACE WHEN YOU NEED IT.
CAMILLA IS SMART, DIGNIFIED, AND FULL OF PERSONALITY.
SHE'S MEDIUM-SIZED WITH A SHORT BLACK TAN COAT AND ALREADY SPAYED AND VACCINATED.
SHE WOULD MAKE A WONDERFUL COMPANION FOR SOMEONE LOOKING FOR A LOVING DOG WHO COULD BRING BOTH COMFORT, LAUGHTER INTO THEIR HOME.
ANYONE INTERESTED IN MEETING CAMILLA IS ENCOURAGED TO CONTACT SAKS THE ANIMAL SHELTER AT 972-675-9662 TO SCHEDULE A MEET AND GREET.
AND THAT IS A VERY, VERY KIND DOG.
MY TWO LITTLE GIRLS WERE LOVED PLAYING WITH HER.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A GOOD ONE.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE IT HOME, I GUESS.
THAT CLOSE, HAD TO CHECK WITH THE WIFE.
BABY AND ME CLOTHING SWAP, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH.
THAT'S THIS COMING FRIDAY FROM 10 TO 11 A.M.
FAMILIES WITH BABIES AND TODDLERS AGED ZERO TO 18 MONTHS ARE INVITED TO A BABY AND ME CLOTHING SWAP ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH AT THE SACHSE LIBRARY.
CLEAN OUT YOUR CLOSETS AND BRING YOUR NEW AND GENTLY USED BABY'S CLOTHING TO SWAP WITH OTHER FAMILIES.
DURING YOUR VISIT, THE LIBRARY WILL SET UP MATS WITH TOYS FOR LITTLE ONES TO PLAY ON WHILE CAREGIVERS BROWSE AND SWAP.
THIS IS A FREE COME AS YOU GO EVENT.
ALSO, HAM RADIO DEMONSTRATIONS ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 23RD AT 6 P.M.
TEENAGERS AGED 12 TO 17 ARE INVITED TO LEARN ABOUT HAM RADIO WITH A LIVE DEMONSTRATION AND A HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE PRESENTED BY THE SACHSE AMATEUR RADIO ASSOCIATION ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 23RD AT 6.
THIS IS A FREE EVENT, SO FOR ANYBODY IN THAT AGE GROUP, 12 TO 17, SHOW UP.
IT'S NO COST, SO IF YOU WANT HANDS-ON WITH HAM RADIO, BE THERE.
HAM RADIO IS GOING TO BE THERE IF EVERYTHING ELSE IS NOT.
SO HAM RADIO IS VERY IMPORTANT.
ANYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL? HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THE AUDIENCE AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, MS. NASH.
JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
ONE, WELCOME ONE OF OUR NEW HIRES, TRISTA PALOMINO.
SHE'S A PART-TIME RECREATION AIDE OVER AT THE MICHAEL J.
A CONGRATULATIONS TO, I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE JARED POTTS, OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
HE HAS BEEN ACCEPTED INTO THE LEADERSHIP NORTH TEXAS CLASS.
FOR ANY OF YOU WHO KNOW ABOUT IT OR DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THIS IS A GRADUATE-LEVEL LEADERSHIP PROGRAM THAT RECRUITS, DEVELOPS, AND SUPPORTS STEWARDS OF OUR REGION.
THESE ARE THE FUTURE LEADERS OF OUR REGION.
SO IT IS A PRESTIGIOUS RECOGNITION, AND WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE JARED REPRESENTING SACSI IN THIS PROGRAM, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO JARED.
AND THEN A CORE VALUES RECOGNITION ON INNOVATION.
TYPICALLY, I DO A LOT OF RECOGNITIONS UP HERE FOR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE VERY PUBLIC-FACING, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT DO INTERNAL SERVICES THAT DON'T GET THE SHOUT-OUTS ALL THE TIME.
SO TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE GILLIAN SMITH.
IN HER SHORT TENURE HERE, SHE'S LED A COUPLE OF HUGE PROJECTS FOR US THAT HAVE REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE OPERATE INTERNALLY.
SO SHE HAS DEVELOPED SOME GREAT WORKFLOW SYSTEMS FOR US
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FOR ELECTRONIC EMPLOYEE FILES, CONVERTING A LOT OF OUR ELECTRONIC FORMS, AND JUST BUILDING AND SECURING APPROVAL WORKFLOWS INTERNALLY AND PAPERLESS THAT HAVE BEEN SO HELPFUL TO US.SHE'S WORKED WITH OUR VENDOR OF OUR ENTERPRISE SYSTEMS TO OPTIMIZE HOW WE USE THAT PLATFORM TO STREAMLINING OUR PROCESSES, AGAIN, ACROSS THE SYSTEM.
AND CURRENTLY, SHE IS LEADING OUR IMPLEMENTATION FOR OUR PERFORMANCE EVALUATION SYSTEM THAT IS ALIGNING WITH OUR EVALUATIONS FOR OUR SHINE CORE VALUES, JOB EXPECTATIONS, AND ORGANIZATION GOALS.
IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOING A PILOT PROGRAM, BUT WE KNOW THAT THIS WILL HAVE A LASTING IMPACT ON HOW WE SUPPORT AND DEVELOP OUR TEAM.
SO GILLIE APPROACHES EACH OF THESE PROJECTS WITH GOOD INITIATIVE AND FOLLOW THROUGH, AND WE ARE BETTER FOR IT.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANKS TO GILLIE AND ALL OF OUR HR TEAM FOR ALL THE THINGS THEY DO BEHIND THE SCENES TO HELP EVERYBODY WHO THE PUBLIC SEES DO THEIR JOB AS BEST AS THEY CAN EVERY DAY.
YES, BEHIND THE SCENES CAN DEFINITELY, WE DEFINITELY ALWAYS WANNA TAKE A MOMENT AND RECOGNIZE THAT, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE BEHIND THE SCENES WORK, THE IN FRONT OF THE SCENES WORK DOES NOT HAPPEN, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.
I DO HAVE TO ASK MS. NASH, MR. POTTS, WHAT CLASS NUMBER IS HE GONNA BE AT LEADERSHIP NORTH TEXAS? CLASS 18.
SO JARED, YOUR CLASS HAS A TALL HILL TO CLIMB, BUT DON'T LET HIM DO 15, BUT WE WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
SERIOUSLY, CONGRATULATIONS, THAT'S A GREAT HONOR.
I HAVE JUST A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS.
CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSING EARLY TOMORROW, AND THAT IS WHERE SACHSE HIGH SCHOOL HAS THEIR HOMECOMING PARADE, AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THEY STAGE HERE AT CITY HALL AND GO DOWN TO THE HIGH SCHOOL FOR A COMMUNITY PEP RALLY.
WHEN YOU STAGE AND THE PARADE SEEMS TO GET BIGGER EVERY YEAR, AND SO AS CITY EMPLOYEES WILL TELL YOU THAT IT IS A LOT OF FUN AROUND HERE ABOUT THAT TIME GETTING OUT.
SO CITY HALL WILL CLOSE AT 4 O'CLOCK TOMORROW TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING WILL REMAIN OPEN AS NORMAL.
NOW WE'LL SAY THE SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER WILL CLOSE AT THEIR USUAL TIME, WHICH IS FOUR P.M.
AND IF YOU WANNA CHEER ON THE MUSTANGS TOMORROW, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE WARM.
I'M ON PARADE ROUTE, BUT IF YOU WANNA CHEER THEM ON, THE PARADE STARTS AT 6:30.
NEXT, WE HAVE THE 9-11 REMEMBRANCE CEREMONY THAT IS GOING TO BE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH.
THIS IS COMING FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH, 9 TO 9:30 A.M.
THIS IS THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE 9-11 ATTACKS.
SACHSE FIRE RESCUE AND THE SACHSE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HOST A CEREMONY TO MARK THIS EVENT.
THE COMMUNITY IS WELCOME TO ATTEND AND JOIN US IN HONORING THE VICTIMS, SURVIVORS, AND FIRST RESPONDERS WHOSE COURAGE AND SACRIFICE WE WILL NEVER FORGET.
AGAIN, THAT IS THIS COMING FRIDAY MORNING FROM 9 TO 9:30 AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.
AS I MENTIONED BRIEFLY DURING OUR PROCLAMATION, THE PEANUT BUTTER BOWL IS ON.
NOW THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, WE HAVE A, I WOULD SAY FRIENDLY COMPETITION, BUT LET'S JUST BE HONEST, IT'S A COMPETITION WITH THE CITY AROUND IT.
AND SO, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS TO DONATE PEANUT BUTTER FOR A GOOD CAUSE, SO WE'RE GONNA BE COLLECTING PEANUT BUTTER IN OUR DONATION BINS AT CITY HALL, AT THE LIBRARY, AT THE MICHAEL J. FELIX COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THE SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER BETWEEN, AND THE ANIMAL SHELTER, AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE.
ALL DONATIONS MUST BE DROPPED OFF BY SEPTEMBER 30TH TO COUNT.
YOU CAN ALWAYS DONATE TO THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK, REGARDLESS OF THAT.
YOU CAN FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS FOR MORE UPDATES THROUGHOUT THE MONTH.
EVERY JAR DOES TRULY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
WE HAVE PET DAY AT THE MARKET COMING UP THIS COMING SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 12TH.
THIS SATURDAY, THE SACHSE FARMERS MARKET IS GOING PET FRIENDLY FOR PET DAY AT THE MARKET.
FREE BANDANAS FOR YOUR FURRY FRIENDS.
ADOPTABLE ANIMALS FROM SACHSE ANIMAL SERVICES, AND ALL YOUR FAVORITE FARMERS MARKET VENDORS.
IF YOU HAVEN'T EVER BEEN OUT THERE, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT THERE.
NOW, AS I JUST TALKED ABOUT, YOU CAN ALSO BRING A JAR OF PEANUT BUTTER OUT THERE, AND THEY'LL BE ENTERED IN TO WIN A PRIZE.
SO GRAB YOUR PUP, AND COME ON OUT SATURDAY MORNING AT THE PET DAY AT THE MARKET, THIS COMING SATURDAY MORNING, 9 A.M.
AND NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS QUICKLY APPROACHING.
THAT IS GOING TO BE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 6TH.
NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS WHERE, OF COURSE, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN SACHSE CELEBRATE WITH BLOCK PARTIES, COOKOUTS, COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES.
THIS IS AN ANNUAL EVENT, AND A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, AND VISIT WITH MEMBERS OF THE SACHSE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS PLANNING A BLOCK PARTY, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO REGISTER IT WITH THE CITY, SO OUR OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, AND CITY REPRESENTATIVES CAN STOP BY, COMPLETE THE BLOCK PARTY APPLICATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AND CHECK THE BOX FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
AND I SAY THIS EVERY YEAR TO THANK CHIEF PERSONALLY, BECAUSE IF IT HASN'T CHANGED, THE TRUE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS IN AUGUST.
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AND NOBODY WANTS TO DO THAT AROUND HERE IN AUGUST.AND HOPEFULLY, BY THE TIME OCTOBER 6TH ROLLS AROUND, IT WILL NOT BE 100 OUTSIDE, SO WE SHALL SEE.
OKAY, THAT'S ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS I HAVE.
[E. Consent Agenda]
OKAY, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM C, CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM ONE, APPROVE THE AUGUST 17TH, 2026 MEDIAN MINUTES.
ITEM TWO, ACCEPT THE MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2026.
ITEM THREE, APPROVE A RESOLUTION APPROVING AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR TO THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN DALLAS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SACHSE FOR HOUSEHOLD WASTE DISPOSAL SERVICES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026,2027, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SO ANYONE ON COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM THREE.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEMS ONE AND TWO.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM ONE AND TWO FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HOWARTH TO APPROVE ITEM ONE AND TWO FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I HAVE A SECOND, MR. PRESTENBERG? SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
AGAIN, THIS IS FOR ITEMS ONE AND TWO.
[3. Approve a resolution approving Amendment No. 4 to the Household Hazardous Waste Interlocal Agreement between Dallas County and the City of Sachse, for household hazardous waste disposal services for fiscal year 2026-2027; and providing an effective date.]
ALL RIGHT, GOING BACK TO ITEM THREE, APPROVE A RESOLUTION APPROVING AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR TO THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN DALLAS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SACHSE FOR HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL SERVICES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026,2027 AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.OKAY, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF CLARIFICATION.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE THAT AMOUNT CAME FROM.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR.
IS THAT BASED ON USE OR VOLUME OR JUST A SET FEE? SO IT'S BASED ON VOLUME.
AND SO WE BUDGET THAT EVERY YEAR.
AND IF WE DON'T USE IT, IT GOES BACK INTO FUND BALANCE.
AND SO WE JUST SET THAT BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY RIGHT AROUND THAT NUMBER OVER HERE.
AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION, IT SAYS THIS AGREEMENT IS WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY CHEMICAL COLLECTION CENTER.
AND IT SAYS IT WAS AUTHORIZED BY COURT ORDER, SO AND SO.
MY QUESTION IS, IF IT'S A DALLAS COUNTY, CAN RESIDENTS OF COLLIN COUNTY ALSO USE THIS? OR IS IT JUST DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENTS? YES, THEY CAN USE IT AS WELL.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN A SIMILAR EXAMPLE IS WHEN WE NEEDED TO USE THE HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR GARLAND WHEN WE WERE DURING COVID.
BUT THEY COVERED THE WHOLE CITY, EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T IN THE SAME COUNTY.
SO YES, AS LONG AS YOU'RE A SACHSE RESIDENT AND YOU SHOW YOUR PROOF OF ID, YOU CAN USE IT.
OKAY, THAT'S JUST TWO CLARIFICATIONS I KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW.
ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM THREE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HOWARTH TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? MR. PRESTENBERG? SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[1. Consider an ordinance of the City Council of Sachse, Texas, authorizing certain budget and Capital Improvement Plan amendments pertaining to the Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Budget and Capital Improvement Plan; and providing an effective date.]
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM F, ACTION ITEMS. ITEM ONE, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF SACHSE, TEXAS, AUTHORIZING CERTAIN BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AMENDMENTS PERTAINING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026 BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, TONIGHT WILL BE THE FINAL NIGHT IN A MULTI-MONTH PROCESS RELATIVE TO THE 26-27 BUDGET.
BUT ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IN THAT IS TO DO SOME AMENDMENTS TO OUR CURRENT BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE THAT OUT FOR THE YEAR.
AND THEN DAVID WILL CONTINUE ON WITH PRESENTATIONS RELATIVE TO THE REST OF THE BUDGET.
SO WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SEVERAL OF THESE.
AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF THESE BUDGET AMENDMENTS WE TRY TO DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND SOME OF THIS WILL JUST BE SORT OF A WRAP-UP OF THE FINAL QUARTER.
AND THEN DAVID WILL ALSO DO SOME REMINDERS ALONG THE WAY IN HIS PRESENTATION.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS PREVIOUSLY.
WE ADOPTED THIS 2025-2026 BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER 2025.
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IT CONSISTS OF A BUDGET APPROPRIATION IN EXHIBIT A AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN EXHIBIT THERE WERE AMENDMENTS, MARCH 2ND, 2026.AND OUR POLICY SAYS THAT BASICALLY WE CAN BRING BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO YOU.
THE FIRST OF THREE FUNDS WHERE WE'RE REQUESTING BUDGET AMENDMENTS IS IN THE GENERAL FUND.
IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE REQUESTING EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY FOR PREVIOUSLY UNBUDGETED REVENUE AND ALSO FOR ELECTION COSTS EXCEEDING BUDGET.
THOSE FIRST FOUR ITEMS THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S NO CIP NUMBER.
THIS IS REALLY JUST REQUESTS FOR BUDGET AUTHORITY AT THE FUND LEVEL.
WE WENT TO OTHER AREAS, HAD DEPLOYMENTS, HELPED OUT OTHER COUNTIES, AND HAVE RECEIVED, FOR THE FIRST TWO ITEMS, HAVE RECEIVED REIMBURSEMENT BACK.
SO THAT'S WEST LACO, TEXAS, AND TRAVIS COUNTY FOR ABOUT $87,000.
FOR THE OTHER TWO ITEMS IN WISE COUNTY AND REGION 1, THOSE ARE DEPLOYMENTS THAT HAPPENED AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE PAPERWORK AND FOR THE ACTUAL FUNDING BACK, BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING FUNDING FOR THOSE.
THE BOTTOM TWO ITEMS ARE FOR THE UNBUDGETED PORTION OF ELECTION COSTS THAT REALLY JUST EXCEEDED OUR BUDGET.
THAT IS FOR GENERAL ELECTION AND FOR THE RUNOFF ELECTION.
THOSE ITEMS, IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THOSE WOULD COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
NEXT, IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, WE ARE REQUESTING EXPENDITURE AND CAPITAL PROJECT AUTHORITY FOR CONSTRUCTION COST INCREASES.
THIS IS, THE ONE ITEM THERE IS FOR MERIT ROAD REALIGNMENT AND WIDENING.
WE'RE REQUESTING THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT BOTH BY FUND LEVEL AND IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THE REVENUE SOURCE IS THE 2026 CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND THEN THOSE, WE HAVE A SALE FOR THOSE ON AUGUST 3RD, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
THE LAST ITEM IS IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND.
WE'RE REQUESTING EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY TO COVER BOTH THE 2015 GEO-REFUNDING BOND DEFEASANCE PAYMENT AND ALSO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED PRINCIPAL AMOUNT.
WE WERE JUST OFF A LITTLE BIT IN THAT BUDGET, SO WE'RE REQUESTING $65,000 TO COVER US FOR APPROPRIATION IN THAT FUND.
IF YOU ADD ALL THIS TOGETHER, THE FUND BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR EXHIBIT A ARE $7,276,594.
AND IN THE CIP PLAN, EXHIBIT B, WE'RE REQUESTING $7 MILLION BUDGET ADDED TO THAT PROJECT.
AND SO STAFF REQUESTS THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING CERTAIN BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AMENDMENTS PERTAINING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026 AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? MR. PRESTENBERG.
YES, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE GENERAL FUND SLIDE.
YES, SO THOSE FIRST TWO YOU SAID WERE GETTING REIMBURSED OR WE'VE ALREADY BEEN REIMBURSED FOR THOSE? THAT'S CORRECT.
WHICH ONE? THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN REIMBURSED OR WE'RE GETTING REIMBURSED? CORRECT, FOR THE FIRST LINE THERE, THE $40,991.
THAT'S FROM A MARCH 2025 EVENT.
WE HAVE BEEN REIMBURSED FOR THAT BY TDEM.
ALONG WITH THE SECOND ITEM, WE HAVE BEEN REIMBURSED FOR THAT.
OKAY, I'M JUST CONFUSED THAT WE'RE TOTALING THESE UP WHEN WE RECEIVE MONEY BACK TO REPLACE WHERE THE OTHER ONES ARE ACTUALLY, YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR US TO SPEND THE MONEY, RIGHT? OR APPROVAL TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR IT, RIGHT? REQUESTING EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY ON ALL OF THEM.
HOW DOES THAT BALANCE? FOR THESE, WE'VE RECEIVED FUNDING FOR THE FIRST TWO AND THE REMAINING THE OTHER TWO.
WE KNOW THAT FUNDING IS ON THE WAY.
ALL RIGHT, I'M NOT REALLY FOLLOWING RIGHT THERE.
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON IT THERE.
YEAH, IF I MAY, OUR 2026,2027 BUDGET, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY OF THAT FUNDING EITHER.
AND YET WE SET ASIDE AN EXPENDITURE REQUEST AND A REVENUE REQUEST.
SO THIS IN A SIMILAR WAY ON A COUPLE OF THESE ITEMS, EVEN THOUGH THE FUNDING HASN'T ARRIVED, WE'RE REQUESTING AUTHORITY FOR THAT.
SO WHEN WE SPENT THE 41,000 FOR WEST LACO IN 2025, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE DIDN'T APPROVE THAT LAST YEAR OR IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT, SO THIS IS EXPENSES
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FOR SALARY, FOR TRAVEL, ALL WITHIN AN AGREEMENT WITH TDEM WHERE IT WOULD BE REIMBURSED.WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE THESE DISASTER EVENTS, SO WE DIDN'T BUDGET THESE AMOUNTS.
RIGHT, SO THE OTHER TWO, THE WISE COUNTY AND REGION ONE, ARE WE JUST GETTING AHEAD OF THE GAME? THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN REIMBURSED FOR THEM, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO? YES, BASICALLY.
OKAY, SO WE WERE BEHIND THE GAME ON THE FIRST TWO, BUT AHEAD OF THE GAME, OKAY.
IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME WHILE WE WERE...
NO, AND I THINK, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE THE FIRST FOUR CATEGORIES ARE GONNA BE REIMBURSED BY THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
THE FIRST TWO WE ALREADY GOT, THE SECOND TWO WE'LL GET, AND THEN OF COURSE THE LAST TWO ARE FUND BALANCED THAT WE'D HAVE TO RECONCILE ANYWAY.
SO I GUESS IF YOU WRAP ALL THAT TOGETHER, THEY'RE JUST BEING RECONCILED WHETHER WE HAVE THE MONEY NOW OR WHETHER WE'RE GONNA GET THE MONEY.
OKAY, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE EARLY ON SOME AND LATE ON OTHERS, SO THAT'S FINE.
BUT BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR, WE GOTTA, OKAY.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM STAFF? MR. MILLSAP.
ON YOUR SUMMARY OF CHARGES OR CHANGES, BUDGET AMENDMENT EXHIBIT A, YOU'RE ASKING FOR $7,276,000, AND A CPI, YOU'RE ASKING FOR $7,000,000.
SO DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF $14,000,000? NO, IN ONE ORDINANCE, IT TAKES TWO ACTIONS.
ONE IS JUST APPROPRIATION INCREASE, THAT'S EXHIBIT A.
IN ONE CASE, THAT'S REDUNDANT.
SO WE'RE REQUESTING $7,000,000 TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.
THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND IS A REVENUE SOURCE FOR A SPECIFIC CAPITAL PROJECT, AND SO WE WANT TO REFLECT THE CAPITAL PROJECT IN EXHIBIT B.
THOSE SHOULD NOT BE SUMMED IN THAT SENSE TO SAY IT'S A $14,000,000 WORTH OF CHANGES.
IT'S THE SAME $7,000,000 IN TWO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE BUDGET.
SO MR. BAUMANN, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT WE APPROPRIATED THIS MONEY PREVIOUSLY THAT WENT INTO THE BUDGET, AND NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE'RE REMOVING THAT MONEY WE ALREADY APPROPRIATED INTO THE CIP WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE SPENT OUT OF THE CIP.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? THE CAPITAL PROJECT WAS BUDGETED.
THIS SPECIFIC $7,000,000 WAS NOT.
SO IT NEEDS TO APPEAR IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AND IT NEEDS TO APPEAR IN THE FUND BUDGET.
THAT INCREMENTAL CHANGE IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
SO THIS REALLY JUST MAKES MERIT ROAD GO UP TO ANOTHER $7,000,000 IN COST? THE PROJECT COST DOES REFLECT THAT, YES.
WHICH AGAIN, WE APPROVED THE $7,000,000 EARLIER, YEAH.
THE $7,000,000, WAS THAT JUST ESTIMATED GOING IN THERE, OR WAS THAT AN EXACT, AND DO WE HAVE MORE GOING INTO THAT? I CAN DEFER TO COREY ON THAT, UNLESS.
THIS IS JUST IN ADDITION TO THE PROJECT, SO WE HAD TO SELL MORE DEBT TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECT.
SO THIS IS $7,000,000 ON TOP OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAD.
AND SO I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES HERE, LIKE ON THE, DAVID, IF YOU JUST GO BACK REAL QUICK FOR ME TO HELP CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR US NON-ACCOUNTING TYPES, IF YOU GO BACK ANOTHER SLIDE.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SPEND MONEY, AND IN THE CASE OF THE WEST LACO, TRAVIS COUNTY, WISE COUNTY, REGION ONE, WE HAVE AGREEMENTS THAT WE CAN DEPLOY RESOURCES AND USE OUR OVERTIME IN WHICH TO DO SO, BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS GET SPENDING AUTHORITY ON THE BACK END WHEN WE GET THAT MONEY BACK, AND YOU ALL HAVE TO APPROVE THAT FOR US.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THOSE.
I UNDERSTAND THOSE, BUT THE $7,000,000, JUST A FLAT $7,000,000 FEE, THAT JUST KINDA.
SO ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE, COUNCIL HAD ALREADY APPROVED FOR US TO SELL THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO APPROVE WHERE IT GETS PLACED AND TO DO A FORMAL BUDGET AMENDMENT AND A CIP AMENDMENT.
SO IT'S A MULTI-STEP ACCOUNTING PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, AND OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SAY, YOU ALL CAN APPROVE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR YOU TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO SAY, YES, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT BY $7,000,000.
IT'S NOT JUST ENOUGH FOR YOU TO SELL IT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS YOU'VE AMENDED THE BUDGET TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SPEND THAT $7,000,000.
SO IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S A MULTI-STEP PROCESS, PLUS AMEND YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN TO SHOW THE $7,000,000 IN THERE AS WELL.
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NO, DEFINITELY.WELL, YOU SAID IT MUCH BETTER THAN I TRIED TO SAY IT EARLIER, SO IT'S BASICALLY WHAT I MEANT.
NOT AN ACCOUNTING MAJOR, BUT I'M TRYING TO SAY IT IN A NON-ACCOUNTING WAY.
AND IT'S THE SAME WITH THE ELECTION COSTS.
WE HAD TO SPEND THAT MONEY TO DO THOSE ELECTIONS, BUT WE HAVE TO SHOW IN HERE WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM, WHICH IS FUND BALANCE, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ALLOW US TO HAVE SPENT THE MONEY ON OUR BOOKS AS WE MOVE TOWARD THE AUDIT HERE IN A FEW MONTHS.
HOPEFULLY I HAVEN'T THOROUGHLY MADE THIS WORSE.
YOU CLEARED UP WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR., OKAY.
AND SINCE MS. NASH BROUGHT IT UP, MS. GRANGER, I KNOW WE DID HAVE THE ISSUE LAST YEAR, WHICH IS BEYOND OUR CONTROL, REALLY, AS FAR AS EXTRA ELECTION COSTS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE'RE BUDGETING THAT MUCH FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
NO, WE TAKE A KIND OF A CUMULATIVE AVERAGE AND TRY AS BEST WE CAN TO FIGURE WHAT IS GOING ON.
AT THE MERCY OF THE COUNTY, AS THEY SAY.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. HOWARTH.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? OKAY, NOW MS. HOWARTH.
ALL RIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F1 AS PRESENTED.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HOWARTH TO APPROVE ITEM F1 AS PRESENTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND, MR., MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS? SECOND.
I HAVE A SECOND, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[2. Consider an ordinance of the City of Sachse, Texas, adopting the budget for fiscal year beginning October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027; providing that expenditures for said fiscal year shall be made in accordance with said budget; appropriating and setting aside the necessary funds out of the general and other revenues for said fiscal year for the maintenance and operation of the various departments and for various activities and improvements of the City; providing a repealing clause; providing a severability clause; and providing an effective date. (Record vote required.)]
ISN'T ACCOUNTING FUN? OKAY.NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM F2, CONSIDERING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SACHSE, TEXAS, ADOPTING THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027, PROVIDING THAT EXPENDITURES FOR SAID FISCAL YEAR SHALL BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH A SAID BUDGET, APPROPRIATING AND SETTING ASIDE THE NECESSARY FUNDS BY THE GENERAL AND OTHER REVENUES FOR SAID FISCAL YEAR FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND FOR VARIOUS ACTIVITIES AND IMPROVEMENTS OF THE CITY, PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS THE NEXT STEPS IN OUR FINAL BUDGET APPROVAL PROCESS FOR TONIGHT.
SO THIS ACTUALLY IS THE STEP FOR YOU TO ADOPT THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, ENDING IN SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027.
AND THERE ISN'T A SPECIFIC PRESENTATION AS YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IT MANY TIMES.
BUT JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS ITEM DOES REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SHARE ON THAT MAYOR.
ANYTHING TO ADD MR. BALDWIN? SURE MAYOR, I'LL JUST ADD THAT WE WERE HERE ON JUNE 1ST, REQUESTING EARLY CITIZEN INPUT ON THE BUDGET.
ON JUNE 25TH, THERE WAS A BUDGET AND BURGERS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EVENT.
ON AUGUST 17TH, THERE WAS A BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING INCLUDED IN THIS.
SO THERE WAS SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CLEANUP OF THE BUDGET SINCE THE DATE IT WAS PROPOSED.
THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE CIP, BUT EXCLUDED FROM THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION.
THERE'S ALSO A GENERATOR PURCHASE THAT WE'VE REALIZED NOW WILL NOT TAKE PLACE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO WE'VE CARRIED FORWARD THAT BUDGET TO THE NEXT YEAR.
SO A FEW TECHNICAL CHANGES, NOTHING TO THE GENERAL FUND, NOTHING THAT CHANGES ANY NEED FOR TAX RATES.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. PRESTENBERG.
ON THE ONE ENTRY THAT TALKS ABOUT MERIT ROAD REALIGNMENT, IS THAT 43 AND A HALF MILLION? DOES THAT ALREADY INCLUDE THE SEVEN MILLION THAT WE JUST APPROVED? YES, IT DOES.
I MISSED THE LAST MEETING, LAST TWO MEETINGS ACTUALLY, AND THEY WERE HEAVY BUDGET.
SO I WANTED TO READ A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I HAD BEFORE WE DID THIS, AS THE NEXT THREE ITEMS ARE PERTAINING TO THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE.
SO I CAME ACROSS THIS DOCUMENT BY DR. WILLIAM BROOKS.
HE'S A FORMER CITY MANAGER, ADJUNCT PROFESSOR, AUTHOR, KEYNOTE SPEAKER, AND I THINK NOW HE'S A CONSULTANT.
OKAY, I BELIEVE HE WAS IN WACO.
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ACCURATE? NO, I'M TOTALLY WRONG.ALL RIGHT, DISREGARD THAT LAST STATEMENT.
SO ONE OF HIS THINGS HE HAD ON HIS INFORMATION WAS JUST A STATEMENT ABOUT TAXES AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT TAXES.
YOU OPEN YOUR TAX BILL AND IT'S HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR, AND YOU THINK, HERE WE GO AGAIN, SAME TRASH PICKUP, SAME ROAD, SAME WATER, SAME POLICE CARS, SAME PARKS, SAME WALKING TRAILS, SAME COMPLAINTS.
EVERYTHING FEELS THE SAME EXCEPT WHAT YOU ARE PAYING, AND IT DOESN'T ADD UP, BUT IT DOES.
JUST NOT IN THE WAY WE'VE TAUGHT PEOPLE TO SEE IT.
WE START CONNECTING THE PRICE OF GOVERNMENT TO THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE ACT LIKE PUBLIC AGENCIES ARE IMMUNE TO INFLATION AND EXEMPT FROM REALITY.
AS IF FUEL, CONCRETE, SALARIES, INSURANCE, TRUCKS, CHEMICALS, EQUIPMENT, STEEL, ASPHALT, AND LABOR COSTS ALL FREEZE AT THE MOMENT THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED.
GOVERNMENT HAS TO BUY THE SAME THINGS FROM THE SAME WORLD AT THE SAME RISING PRICES AS EVERYONE ELSE DOES.
WE WANT GOVERNMENT TO RUN LIKE A BUSINESS, BUT NO BUSINESS CAN CHARGE THE SAME PRICE FOR THE SAME PRODUCT FOREVER WHEN THE COST OF EVERYTHING ELSE GOES UP.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE REAL PROBLEM LIVES.
NOT IN THE TAX BILL, IN THE EXPECTATION.
WE THINK PAYING SOMETHING MEANS THAT WE'RE ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING.
WE CONFUSE BEING TAXED WITH BEING COVERED.
WE BELIEVE PROXIMITY EQUALS ENTITLEMENT, AND THAT WANTING A SERVICE MEANS IT SHOULD EXIST.
FULLY FUNDED, ALWAYS AVAILABLE, AND FREE AT THE POINT OF USE.
WE WANT SMOOTHER ROADS, FASTER RESPONSES, BETTER PARKS, STRICTER ENFORCEMENT, BUT WE ALSO WANT FEWER HOUSES, FEWER TAXES, FEWER RULES, AND FEWER RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND WHEN SOMEONE EXPLAINS THE BOUNDARY, THE STATUTE, THE FUNDING FORMULA, OR THE REALITY OF THE TRADE-OFF, WE CALL THEM DISMISSIVE OR LIARS, OUT OF TOUCH OR ARROGANT.
BUT CITIES DO NOT RUN ON EMOTION OR ILLUSION.
THEY RUN ON WHAT IS, AND NOT WHAT WE WISH.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WANT TO PAY MORE.
BUT YOU CAN'T REFUSE TO FUND SOMETHING AND STILL EXPECT TO KEEP IT.
YOU CAN'T CUT WHAT YOU DEPEND ON, AN ACCOUNT, OR EXCUSE ME, AN ACT SURPRISED WHEN IT CAN'T DELIVER.
YOU CAN SAY NOT THIS, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO SAY INSTEAD THAT.
THAT'S WHAT EVERY FAMILY, EVERY HOUSEHOLD, EVERY ORGANIZATION ALREADY KNOWS.
IF YOU SAY NO TO COST, YOU SAY YES TO CONSEQUENCE.
AND THE HARDEST PART ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT TODAY ISN'T PROVIDING THE SERVICE, IT'S EXPLAINING THE REALITY TO PEOPLE WHO'VE GROWN USED TO IGNORING IT.
IT'S POINTING TO THE BUDGET AND BEING TOLD IT'S JUST AN EXCUSE.
IT'S SAYING YOU DON'T PAY FOR CITY SERVICES SO YOU DON'T GET THE BENEFIT, EVEN IF OUR SERVICES ARE CLOSER TO YOU.
AND BEING TREATED LIKE THE PROBLEM.
IT'S BEING HONEST AND BEING PUNISHED FOR IT.
THIS ISN'T ABOUT WANTING MORE TAXES.
YOU CAN WANT MORE OR YOU CAN WANT LESS.
BUT EITHER WAY, YOU HAVE TO LIVE INSIDE THE MAP.
CITIES CRUMBLE LIVING BETWEEN WHAT PEOPLE DEMAND AND WHAT THEY REFUSE TO ACCEPT.
I DID WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO LAUREN.
I DID FIND THAT ON HER LINKEDIN PAGE AS SHE POSTED IT.
BUT I FOUND THIS VERY INTERESTING AS I WAS READING IT AS A TAXPAYER AND LIKE, YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO PAY MORE.
I CERTAINLY WANT ALL THESE THINGS BUT DON'T WANT TO PAY ANY MORE.
SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT WAY TO EXPLAIN IT RATHER THAN A PRIVATE BUSINESS WHO THEIR ANSWER TYPICALLY IS JUST RAISE PRICES AND WE DON'T SELL WIDGETS SO WE CAN'T REALLY DO THAT.
SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT EXPLANATION OF HOW THE GOVERNMENT, CITY GOVERNMENT WORKS.
OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU, MR. BALDWIN.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? COME ON DOWN, SIR.
AND IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT BRETT FRANKSS WAS SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT.
IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT RESPONSE THERE.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS CITY THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS.
I WAS ON THE PLANNING IS ONLY BOARD FOR YEARS HERE.
AND WHENEVER I WAS ON THE BOARD, WE TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THINGS WERE CHANGING AROUND HERE.
IF WE GET ALCOHOL SALES, TAXES WILL COME DOWN.
IF WE GET MORE RETAIL, TAXES WILL COME DOWN.
IF WE GET MORE COMMERCIAL, TAXES WILL COME DOWN.
WELL, TAXES HAVE NOT COME DOWN AT ALL, ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
WE'RE THE HIGHEST RATE AROUND.
AND WE NEED TO FIX THAT AS A CITY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TO FIX IT.
I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND I FOUND A LOT OF THINGS I COULD
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STICK A SHOTGUN TO AND GET RID OF THEM.SO IT'S TOO LATE PROBABLY FOR THIS YEAR, BUT FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING STUFF, YOU NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THAT BUDGET.
WE'VE GOT MORE HOUSES, WE'VE GOT MORE REVENUE COMING IN, WE'VE GOT MORE RETAIL, WE'VE GOT MORE REVENUE, SALES TAX REVENUE COMING IN.
IT'S TIME WE SEE A TAX BREAK IN THIS CITY FROM ALL OF Y'ALL.
AND I'M REALLY SURPRISED THAT I DID NOT SEE ANYBODY THAT VOTED NO ON THIS YEAR'S TAXES.
I'M SURPRISED BY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCILMAN LEHEY, YOU KIND OF RAN ON THAT, THAT WE WERE GONNA SEE SOME TAX RELIEF.
AND I WAS EXPECTING MAYBE TO SEE YOU AT LEAST VOTE NO ON IT.
I MEAN, IT WASN'T GONNA MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE IF EVERYBODY ELSE DID, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS REALLY NEXT YEAR, TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND SEE WHAT CAN BE CUT OUT.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CITIZENS IN THIS TOWN JUST BASED OFF OF THE FACEBOOK THINGS I'VE SEEN PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY'RE TIRED OF THIS AND WE NEED SOME TAX RELIEF.
WE ALSO NEED SOME WATER RATE RELIEF.
I PAID $600 FOR MY WATER BILL TWO MONTHS AGO AND MY YARD IS DEAD.
THERE'S NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE TO PAY A $600 WATER BILL IN MY YARD TO STILL BE DEAD.
WE NEED SOME REAL RELIEF ON THE TAX RATES AND THE WATER BILLS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF, I KNOW, I SEE WHAT KIND OF RATES WERE BEING CHARGED BY THE WATER DISTRICT, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE A LOT OF OVERHEAD BUILT INTO THAT FOR MY RATE, FOR MY WATER BILL TO BE $600.
SO Y'ALL SHOULD LOOK AT THAT, TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT ALL OF THAT THAT'S COMING HERE.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS SIDE? COME ON DOWN THE STREET.
IF YOU WOULD, STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF BRISBANE.
I'M NOT SURE, I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
AND ON THIS FACEBOOK POST, IT'S AMAZING.
IT IS, IS THE MODEST STAFF PAY INCREASE GOING TO BE 3% OR WHAT IS THE MODEST STAFF PAY INCREASE THAT WAS, IT WAS ON A SLIDE ON FACEBOOK.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT WILL BE.
I KNOW GINA HAD MENTIONED 3% A FEW MONTHS AGO.
IS IT STILL 3%? I WOULD HONESTLY, IN MY OPINION, A 3% PAY INCREASE IS VERY GENEROUS.
AND HEALTHCARE ALSO HAS GONE, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HEALTHCARE IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED NEXT MONTH, BUT Y'ALL ARE DOING THE BUDGET NOW WHEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST COSTS FOR THE CITY IS HEALTHCARE.
SO HOW, WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGE WAS PUT IN THE BUDGET FOR HEALTHCARE? HAS HEALTHCARE ALREADY BEEN DECIDED? I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING JUST TO, ON LIKE PAGE 142 ON THE BUDGET, IT'S JUST SAY POLICE FOR 2025,2026, IT WAS 595,000.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE CITY MANAGERS, 88,000, BUT THEN IT'S GOING TO GO UP TO 106.
FIRE, 574,843, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO 664.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE AND HOW Y'ALL ARE COMING UP WITH THESE NUMBERS, BUT Y'ALL ARE VOTING ON IT.
BUT THEN THE PRESENTATION FOR THE INSURANCE IS NOT COMING OUT TILL NEXT MONTH.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW Y'ALL WORK THAT OUT.
AND ALSO I'M TRYING STREETLIGHTS, PAGE 154, $154,000 UNDER THE GENERAL FUND.
I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF STREETLIGHTS ARE WE LOOKING AT? I MEAN, ARE THESE SPECIAL STREETLIGHTS? ARE THEY FOR THE BALLPARK? ARE THEY FOR LIKE HERITAGE PARK, THE STATION? OR, I MEAN, WHAT STREETLIGHTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
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AND ALSO THERE'S $100,000 CRIME PREVENTION SUPPLIES.WHAT KIND OF SUPPLIES DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE IN THE $100,000 IN THE BUDGET? THANKS.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS SIDE? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
MS. NASH WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS.
ON THE EMPLOYEE PAY INCREASES, IT'S 3% FOR OUR NON-SWORN STAFF, AND THEN IT'S ONE STEP FOR POLICE AND FIRE, AND THAT CAN VARY SLIGHTLY DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PAY PLAN.
BUT IT AVERAGES IT OUT BETWEEN PROBABLY THREE AND FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR STEP PLAN.
SOME STEPS ARE A LITTLE MORE COMPRESSED THAN OTHERS.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT 3% ON THE NON-SWORN SIDE AND THEN A STEP FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU ALL KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE PUT IN A PLACEHOLDER FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
HEALTH INSURANCE IS IN ITS OWN FUND.
SO DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ALL DECIDE ON THROUGH THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROCESS THAT WE GET FROM THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT BID ON OUR WORK, OUR BOOK OF BUSINESS, THEN WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT AS A PLACEHOLDER.
AND THEN THERE IS FUND BALANCE IF WE HAVE TO DIP INTO THAT, WHICH WE HAVE FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND WE'VE JUST LET THAT MONEY ACCUMULATE IN THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND.
THE GOAL THERE IS, COUNCIL SET A POLICY YEARS AGO.
AS I CAME TO THE CITY, ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD FOR THE EMPLOYEES IS THAT THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE KEPT GOING.
IN SOME YEARS THEY WOULD HAVE A HUGE INCREASE.
IN SOME YEARS THEY'D HAVE A DECREASE AND THEY NEVER COULD COUNT ON WHAT THEY WOULD BE PAYING.
AND SO THE IDEA BY SETTING UP THIS HEALTH INSURANCE FUND WAS TO HELP NORMALIZE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES SO EMPLOYEES WOULDN'T HAVE TO SEE SUCH EXTREMES IN THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE CHANGES.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IN THAT IS TO KIND OF KEEP THAT CONSISTENCY FOR EMPLOYEES SO THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GETTING A PAY RAISE OR A PAY CUT EVERY YEAR.
SO WE TRY TO KEEP THAT CONSISTENT.
AS FOR HER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT STREETLIGHTS AND CRIME PREVENTION SUPPLIES, I CAN GET STAFF TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FROM THE PAGE NUMBER SHE REQUESTED.
AND AGAIN, JUST A COROLLARY ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE VERSUS WHEN WE ADOPT THE BUDGET.
OBVIOUSLY BY STATUTE WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH AND BY CHARTER AS WELL.
OKAY, SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A LITTLE DISCONNECT THERE.
AND REAL QUICKLY ON MR. EVERETT'S COMMENTS, HE DID MENTION NORTH TEXAS MISSILE WATER DISTRICT RATES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE ARE PURE PASS-THROUGH RATES.
THERE ARE NO OVERHEAD INVOLVED.
WE DO HAVE PASS-THROUGH RATES, BUT THERE IS A PORTION OF ADMINISTRATION, OBVIOUSLY FOR THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE THAT DO ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.
AND SO THERE IS A PORTION OF THAT THAT IS OUR COST.
AND THAT WAS IN ONE OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS WHERE WE KIND OF SHOW UP HIGH AT THE UTILITY FUND, THE DIRECT PASS-THROUGH COSTS FROM THE WATER DISTRICT VERSUS THE COSTS THAT WE HAVE INTERNALLY TO RUN THE OPERATION.
AND AS YOU KNOW, IT'S RUN, IT IS TRULY RUN AS AN ENTERPRISE, IT'S RUN AS A BUSINESS, AND IT'S SEPARATE FROM ANY OF THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE IT'S FEE-FOR-SERVICE.
GOTCHA, AND I KNOW IT'S TOUGH TO SAY, BUT FROM AN OVERHEAD VERSUS RATE PASS-THROUGH BREAKDOWN PERCENTAGE-WISE, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? DAVID, I HATE TO SPEAK OUT OF SCHOOL, BUT IS IT ABOUT 30% THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, ROUGHLY? ABOUT 30%, AND THEN 70% IS THE COST THAT WE GET FROM THE WATER DISTRICT, ACTUALLY, BUYING THE WATER.
RIGHT, I JUST WANNA GIVE MR. EVERETT SOME CONTEXT ON THAT.
AND THEN I WILL SAY, TOO, THAT THE TAX RATE WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T QUITE, ACTUALLY, WE HAVEN'T ADOPTED A TAX RATE YET.
WE'LL DO THAT AT THE NEXT ITEM.
I KNOW LAST YEAR, BASED ON TAX RATES, ONLY TAX RATE, IS THAT FOR DALLAS COUNTY, WE ACTUALLY HAD THE 11TH HIGHEST TAX RATE.
NOW, THAT MAY CHANGE THIS YEAR WHEN EVERYBODY ADOPTS THEIR TAXES, SO WE WERE AT THE 11TH HIGHEST IN DALLAS COUNTY.
MS. NASH, I JUST WANNA MAKE THE CLARIFICATION.
SO 70% IS PASS-THROUGH COSTS FROM THE WATER MUNICIPAL DISTRICT, BUT 30% ALSO INCLUDES NOT JUST STAFF TIME, BUT REPAIRS, INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
SO WE HAVE A SEPARATE WATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FUND WHERE WE DO ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
SO, YES, THE DAY-TO-DAY REPAIRS, THE MAINTENANCE, ALL OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, THOSE ARE BUILT INTO THAT BUDGET, BUT THOSE BIGGER PROJECTS, THOSE ARE BUILT INTO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, WHICH ARE FUNDED FROM WATER REVENUES.
WHEN I BECAME, WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL A FEW YEARS AGO, WE HAD THE 75 CENT TAX RATE.
SO WE'VE, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, WE'VE LOWERED THE TAX RATE 10 CENTS.
THE ASSUMPTION IS WE DON'T TAKE
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A HARD LOOK AT THE BUDGET.WE'VE SPENT TWO MONTHS, AT LEAST, TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND LINES, AND THE QUESTION IS, OKAY, YOU WANNA CUT THE TAX RATE? WHAT SERVICES DO YOU WANNA CUT? AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION TO COUNCIL WHEN THEY SAID, YEAH, WE WANNA LOWER THE TAX RATE.
OKAY, WHAT DO YOU WANNA CUT? AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
YOU HAVE TO CUT SERVICES OR PROGRAMS. WE DID A SURVEY RECENTLY, AND THEY SAID THAT ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS WAS OFFERING SERVICES AND PROGRAMMING.
AND A BIG PART OF THAT IS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT? IS BEING THE TOP, IN THE TOP FIVE, TOP 10 CITIES IN TEXAS, SAFEST CITIES, IS IT THAT IMPORTANT? DO YOU WANNA CONTINUE PAYING FOR THAT? IS PROVIDING MORE PROGRAMS IN OUR PARKS MORE IMPORTANT ENOUGH, OR ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR IT? SO THAT'S THE DEAL.
I'VE GONE OVER THIS BUDGET MANY TIMES WITH STAFF.
I KNOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE, BUT I WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM.
AND THEN WHEN THEY SAY, YEAH, LET'S CUT THE BUDGET, I'M LIKE, OKAY, LET'S CUT IT.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA CUT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT CUTTING CENTS.
IT'S CUTTING PROGRAMS, JOBS, DOLLARS, EVENTS, SAFETY.
I HATE TO ALWAYS PICK ON POLICE AND FIRE, BUT THAT'S HALF OF OUR BUDGET, POLICE AND FIRE.
AND PEOPLE AREN'T WILLING TO CHEAP OUT ON THOSE.
I HAD TO CALL 911 ONCE IN MY 26 YEARS HERE.
BUT IF I HAVE TO CALL THEM AGAIN, I DON'T WANT ONE GUY SHOWING UP.
FIRST OFF, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER.
EVERY ONE OF THESE PAGES HAS GONE THROUGH ABOUT A THOUSAND TIMES BY STAFF, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE READ IT, BUT WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT AT MULTIPLE MEETINGS FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
I JUST WARN PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS AND WHERE THEY'RE FROM.
SO TRY NOT TO TAKE VERBIAGE FROM OTHER FOLKS.
TAKE WHAT YOUR REALIZATION IS FROM YOUR OWN EXPERIENCES AND UNDERSTAND, DO I LIKE WHAT THE CITY OF SACHSE PROVIDES? AM I GETTING A GOOD VALUE FOR THAT MONEY? IF YOU AREN'T GETTING A GOOD VALUE FOR THIS MONEY, THEN I SUGGEST YOU COME HERE EVERY TWO WEEKS ON A MONDAY AND TELL US WHY.
THEN THAT'S ON US TO DO A BETTER JOB.
BUT ALL THE STAFF THAT'S HERE, ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE UP HERE, I MEAN, I'VE NEVER SEEN A BETTER STAFF.
AND I THINK THE VALUE WE PROVIDE FOR THE DOLLARS THAT WE SPEND ON A TAX DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IS AMAZING.
SO I'LL ALSO SAY, A COMMENT WAS MADE EARLIER ABOUT AN AVERAGE PAY RAISE OF 3% IS, I THINK IT WAS GENEROUS OR VERY GENEROUS FOR SOMEONE ALONG THOSE LINES.
BEING ON THE CORPORATE SIDE, PAY RAISES WERE TWO TO 4% THIS LAST YEAR.
4% WAS IF YOU WERE VERY LOW IN YOUR BRACKET, 2% WAS, HEY, YOU DID OKAY.
AND WE LOOKED AT IT LIKE, GREAT.
SO 3% IS NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA RUN HOME AND GO, YAY, I'M GETTING 3%, BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO HELP KEEP UP WITH INFLATION.
WE ALL KNOW THINGS ARE NOT GETTING CHEAPER RIGHT NOW.
SO AS MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS READ THAT ARTICLE EARLIER, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA DRAW THE LINE OF WHAT CITY IS ALLOWED OR SHOULD EARN OR DESERVE.
AND I THINK WHEN WE DO THAT, WE REALLY PUT OURSELVES IN A BAD SITUATION.
WE WANT OUR PARKS TO LOOK NICE.
WE WANT OUR FIRE AND OUR PLACE TO SHOW UP WHEN CALLED.
AND WE WANT SERVICES TO RUN AND WATER TO FLOW.
SO I WILL BACK OUR STAFF 01,000%.
AND I THINK THE BUDGET WE HAVE HERE, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THIS IS MY FOURTH ITERATION OF THIS.
THE FIRST ONE OR TWO, THERE WAS A LOT OF THE SUPPLEMENTALS, NOT A LOT, BUT THERE WAS MORE SUPPLEMENTAL THINGS THAT PEOPLE WOULD, ON THE CITY STAFF WOULD SAY, HEY, I REALLY COULD USE THIS.
THE MESSAGE HAS BEEN SENT BY LEADERSHIP THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE APPETITE TO DO SOME OF THESE EXTRA TYPE THINGS, OKAY? WE WANT TO, BUT WE KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW THE EYE IS ON THE TAX RATE, THE TAX RATES, THE VALUES OF THE HOMES ARE GOING UP AND IT'S CAUSING FOLKS TO LOOK AT THEIR POCKETBOOK.
SO IF Y'ALL ARE HAVING TO CUT, THEN CITY STAFF NEEDS TO CUT AS WELL.
AND SO THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL THINGS HAVE KIND OF GONE BY THE WAYSIDE UNLESS IT'S LIKE ALMOST A NECESSITY.
SO I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU, IF NOT THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER THAT, NEXT APRIL, I THINK IS WHEN WE STARTED THIS, THE FIRST READ OF THIS, APRIL OF 2027, PLEASE LOOK AT THIS, GO TO BERGER'S OR FAJITAS OR WHATEVER WE'RE GONNA DO NEXT YEAR AND TALK ABOUT IT, ASK THE QUESTIONS AND PLEASE LOOK THROUGH THIS AND SEE, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED X, Y, WELL THEN LET'S CHAT ABOUT IT.
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THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.SO WE'RE HERE TO, WE PAY THE SAME TAX AS Y'ALL DO.
SO IF WE CAN AGREE TO GET OUR TAXES LOWER, THEN I'LL LINE UP BEHIND IT.
SO THAT'S ALL I GOT, THANK YOU.
YEAH, I JUST WANT TO JUMP ON WHAT HE SAID.
LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, 0.65 IS WHAT IT WAS LAST TIME.
SOMETIME WE'RE GONNA GET IN THERE.
JUMP ON WHAT COUNCILMAN PRESTENBERG WAS SAYING, 0.65, TO DROP IT DOWN TO A 0.60, WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO GET THAT DROP.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT, THERE'S INCREMENTED CHANGES, BUT IT HAS TO BE AS A WHOLE TO FIND THE TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 50% OF IT IS FIRE AND POLICE AND, YOU KNOW, I LIKE BEING THE SAFEST CITY.
I LIKE TO KNOW THAT IF I CALL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS GONNA BE THERE.
BUT FINDING THAT, SO THAT'S WHERE, YES, WE HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY TIGHT AND WE DO NEED TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE OUR SALES TAX REVENUE BECAUSE ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA HELP, BUT AS FAR AS THIS BUDGET RIGHT NOW AND THE ONE LOOKING AT TO GET THOSE CHANGES, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I LOOKED AT AND I'M LIKE, WOW, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY TO BRING DOWN.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, WE GO INTO THERE, BUT YEAH, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO BRING IT DOWN TO 0.6, SO.
OKAY, I'M THE SENIOR GUY HERE, SO I'LL HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT APPROACH TO IT.
I THINK THAT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IS FROM EACH OF THE RESIDENTS.
HAVE A BIGGER CROWD, WE HAVE A GREAT CROWD HERE TONIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS EACH NIGHT.
AND I'D LIKE TO START HEARING WHAT YOU THINK WE CAN DO WITHOUT AND HOW WE CAN DO WITHOUT IT.
AND THERE'S LOTS OF LITTLE THINGS WE CAN CUT MONEY OFF OF.
IT'S NOT BIG PROJECTS, BUT LET ME JUST GIVE IT A LITTLE BITTY EXAMPLE.
FIRE TRUCKS, TWO PLUS A MILLION DOLLARS, TWO YEARS WAIT.
BUT DO WE NEED GOLD LEAF LETTERING ON THAT FIRE TRUCK OR DOES JUST A LITTLE BIT OF PAINT TO SAY SACHSE TEXAS ON IT DO A LITTLE BIT? THAT MAY SAVE JUST A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT EVERY TIME YOU SAVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS, A FEW OF THEM, THEY ADD UP TO LOTS OF MONEY.
SO THERE ARE SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN CUT WITHOUT DOING WITHOUT SERVICES.
ALSO, I'M IN FAVOR OF SAYING WE DON'T NEED TO FOLLOW THE LEADER AND BE THE BIGGEST AND THE BEST AND HAVE THE MOST.
WE'RE A SMALLER CITY, WE CAN DO WITH THE LESS SERVICES AND LESS AFFLUENT SERVICES.
THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS I WON'T START NAMING SOME OF THEM BECAUSE IT'LL STEP ON SOME TOES THAT DON'T WANT TO BE STEPPED ON.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE CITIZENS ON A WEEKLY BASIS NOT WAIT UNTIL WE START BUDGET AGAIN NEXT YEAR, SAY THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO A LITTLE BIT LESS ON OR A LITTLE BIT LESS EXPENSIVE WAY OF DOING THE SAME THING.
THERE'S LOTS OF AREAS THAT WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN OUR BELT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WHENEVER YOU GET MY AGE AND YOU'RE LIVING ON SOCIAL SECURITY, THAT IS WHERE YOU LEARN HOW TO TIGHTEN YOUR BELT.
THERE'S NOT THIS TALK ABOUT IT, BUT YOU LEARN HOW TO TIGHTEN YOUR BELT UNTIL WE'VE GONE THROUGH THOSE LIVING EXPERIENCES.
A LOT OF IT IS RHETORIC, AND WE NEED TO START HAVING MORE ACTUAL ACTION ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
AND I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME AND TALK TO US IN GENERAL.
IF YOU COME AND TALK TO THE CITY COUNCIL HERE AT THE PODIUM, WE ALL HEAR IT.
WE CAN'T SAY WE DIDN'T HEAR IT.
IF YOU PUT IT ON FACEBOOK, WE DIDN'T READ IT.
SO WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SO SHOW UP AND SAY WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY, AND I WILL TAKE NOTE.
AND I WILL START MAKING SOME EFFORTS TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THAT IMPLEMENTED.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A FAIR STATEMENT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE GOLD LEAF PAINTING ON OUR FIRE TRUCKS.
I THINK WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND WANNA PROVIDE OUR STAFF WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
WE ALL HAVE READ THROUGH THE 300,400 PAGE BUDGET FOR THREE MONTHS NOW.
AND THERE WAS A TIME TO SUGGEST IF YOU THINK THAT THERE IS SURPLUS LINE ITEMS IN THERE, WE'VE HAD AMPLE OPPORTUNITY.
BUT I THINK THE EVALUATION FOR ONE CENT REDUCTION IN THE BUDGET IS AROUND $400,000 THIS YEAR.
$387,000 IS NOT OFFICE SUPPLIES.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PAPER CLIPS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEPARTMENTS.
THAT IS A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY TO FIND IN THIS BUDGET.
WE DIDN'T APPROVE ANYTHING CRAZY.
WE ONLY TOOK CARE OF THE STAFF.
SO I WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS.
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WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FEEDBACK FOR MONTHS AND HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN ANY.WE WANNA HEAR WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO CUT.
BUT WE NEED SPECIFIC EXAMPLES SO WE CAN REPRESENT YOU.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD.
OTHER THAN TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MS. BUHLER SAID IS THAT THE DISCUSSION'S ALWAYS GOOD.
AND IF THERE'S AN IDEA THAT'S THROWN OUT THERE THAT YOU THINK THAT IT IS, HEY, WHY DON'T WE CUT THIS? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DIALOGUE IS, WELL, IF WE DO CUT THIS, THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS.
AND, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF IT, IS THAT, AND MR. LEGH-PAGE SAID REALLY WELL, IS THAT WE COULD LITERALLY CUT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST FIVE CENTS OFF THE TAX RATE, PROBABLY 15.
BUT THEN YOU'LL HAVE DALLAS COUNTY DOING YOUR POLICE SERVICES AND NOT THE CITY OF SACHSE.
AND SO THAT'S, IT'S JUST AN EXTREME EXAMPLE, I KNOW.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO KEEP IN PERSPECTIVE ON COSTS VERSUS WHAT IT REALLY MEANS TO CUT.
MY FAVORITE SAYING, AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID SINCE I'VE BEEN IN PUBLIC SERVICE, IS THAT WHAT KIND OF CITY DO YOU WANNA LIVE IN? AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TAKE ON THAT.
BUT IN GENERAL, AS YOU'VE HEARD COUNCIL SAY UP HERE ALREADY, IS THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DOUBT THAT WE WANNA LIVE IN THE SAFEST CITY THAT WE CAN BE, WHICH I THINK WE'RE RIGHT UP THERE.
AND IT'S WHAT THE VALUE YOU GET FOR YOUR MONEY IS WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO.
BECAUSE YOU CAN DEFINITELY COMPARE CITIES' TAX RATES TO EACH OTHER AND ALL THAT, BUT IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES.
IT'S, I ALWAYS ARGUE, IT'S APPLES TO LIGHT BULBS.
WHAT ONE CITY'S TAX RATE DOES NOT MEAN THAT THAT RATE WOULD WORK HERE.
JUST LIKE IF SOMEONE THAT'S HIGHER THAN US WERE TO TAKE OUR TAX RATE, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T WORK FOR THEM EITHER.
WE ARE VERY BLESSED, AND MR. PRESTENBERG SAID THIS VERY WELL, IS THAT WE HAVE THE BEST STAFF AROUND, AND I'LL PUT THEM AGAINST ANYBODY.
AND THIS IS THE MOST CHALLENGING THING THAT NOT ONLY STAFF DOES, BUT ALSO THAT COUNCIL HAS TO DEAL WITH.
BECAUSE WHAT I FEEL LIKE OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL IS, IS TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE CITY'S MONEY.
AND IT'S NOT JUST OUR MONEY, IT'S OUR MONEY.
AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE TASKS WE HAVE.
I THINK IT'S OUR MOST CHALLENGING TASK WE DEAL WITH.
AND IT IS NOT EASY TO SIT HERE AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS EASY, CUT THIS, CUT THAT.
BECAUSE IT HAS RIPPLE EFFECTS, NOT JUST FOR PERSONNEL, BUT ALSO FOR THE EVENTS WE HOLD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AGAIN, WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY YOU WANNA HAVE.
SO THIS IS ALWAYS THE MOST CHALLENGING THING.
I WOULD ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID, THE MORE INVOLVEMENT YOU GIVE US, THE MORE IDEAS WE CAN TAKE BACK TO STAFF AND SAY, HEY, WILL THIS WORK OR WILL THIS NOT WORK? AND STAFF WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU THAT IT'LL WORK, BUT THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS IF WE DO THIS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR.
THEY ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD, AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE CITY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, OUR QUALITY OF LIVING WITHOUT OUR STAFF.
SO THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? WELL, WE HAD THE MOMENT FOR SPEAKING IT YESTERDAY.
ACTIONS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR STAFF? OR MOTIONS? MS. HOWARTH.
WE'RE ON ITEM TWO, RIGHT? ITEM TWO, AND IT WILL REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE THE BUDGET, YOU'LL NEED TO MAKE THAT IN YOUR MOTION.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM TWO AS PRESENTED.
YEAH, OKAY, THANK YOU, MS. HOWARTH.
MOTION BY MS. HOWARTH TO APPROVE ITEM TWO AS PRESENTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS? SECOND.
SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.
OKAY, AS MS. GRANGER SAID EARLIER, THIS WILL REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL ASK MS. GRANGER TO CALL THE ROLL.
MAYOR BAKER, STAFF, YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.
COUNCIL MEMBER LEGH-PAGE? YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER PRESTENBERG? YES.
[3. Consider ratifying the property tax increase in the budget for Fiscal Year 2026-2027. (Record vote required.)]
TO ZERO, MID-PASS.NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM F3, CONSIDER RATIFYING THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026-2027.
MS. NASH? MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE BUDGET APPROVAL PROCESS.
FIRST, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET, AND THEN YOU WILL SET YOUR TAX RATE BASED ON THAT.
AND SO THAT IS THE NEXT STEP IN THIS, AND THAT LOOKS LIKE DAVID'S GOT A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO THAT POINT.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TELLS US THAT WHEN ADOPTING THE BUDGET RAISING MORE REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAXES THAN PREVIOUS YEAR, IT REQUIRES A SEPARATE VOTE FROM THE GOVERNING BODY TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET.
OUR BUDGET COVER PAGE SHOWS THAT THE BUDGET WILL RAISE $176,000 MORE REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAXES.
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THAT IS CALCULATED AT 100% COLLECTION RATE PER STATE LAW.THAT CALCULATION ALSO INCLUDES NEW CONSTRUCTION REVENUE, TERS REVENUE, DEBT SERVICE REVENUE, AND GENERAL FUND REVENUE.
STAFF ASKS THAT COUNCIL RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026-2027.
THIS ITEM DOES REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, MR. MILLSAP.
OKAY, WHEN YOU SAY, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, YOU SAY TAX RATE INCREASE.
THAT IS ACTUALLY TAX INCOME, RIGHT? NOT TAX RATE? THE RATE'S STAYING THE SAME AS THE TAX REVENUE.
SO THE BUDGET WILL RAISE MORE REVENUE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF INCREASE IN VALUE, NOT INCREASE THE RATE PER DOLLAR, $100.
THE RATE IS STAYING THE SAME, CORRECT? IT IS NOT DUE TO THE RATE.
YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE MISINTERPRET IT WHEN YOU SAY THAT.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT.
WELL, I WILL SAY IT'S NOT ON HIM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE REQUIRES US TO DO.
BUT YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, MR. MILLSAP, IT CAN BE MISLEADING.
AND AGAIN, MR. BALDWIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THE REASON WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THIS SEPARATE VOTE IS BECAUSE OUR REVENUE HAS INCREASED, OUR TAX REVENUE HAS INCREASED SLIGHTLY.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO DO THE RECORD VOTE.
CORRECT, FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE, CORRECT.
AGAIN, THAT'S HOW WE HAVE TO DO IT PER STATE LAW.
BUT AGAIN, THE TAX RATE IS STAYING THE SAME.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS.
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE F3 AS PRESENTED.
MOST OF MY, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS TO APPROVE ITEM F3 AS PRESENTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND, MR. PRESTENBERG? SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AGAIN, THIS WILL REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE.
MS. GRANGER, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL? YES, SIR.
[4. Consider an ordinance of the City of Sachse, Texas, levying ad valorem taxes for the year 2026 (Fiscal Year 2026-2027) at a Maintenance and Operations rate of $0.456209 and a Debt Service rate of $0.194207 for a total rate of $0.650416 per One Hundred Dollars ($100) assessed valuation on all taxable property within the corporate limits of the City of Sachse as of January 1, 2026, to provide revenue for the payment of current expenses; providing for an Interest and Sinking fund for all outstanding debt of the City of Sachse; providing for due and delinquent dates together with penalties and interest; providing a severability clause; providing a repealing clause; and providing an effective date. (Record vote required.)]
THAT PASSES.YEAH, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM FOUR, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SACHSE, TEXAS, LEVYING IN AD VALOREM TAXES FOR THE YEAR OF 2026, FISCAL YEAR OF 2026,2027, AT A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE OF 0.456209 AND A DEBT SERVICE RATE OF 0.194207 FOR A TOTAL RATE OF 0.650416 PER $100 ASSESSED VALUATION ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF SACHSE AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2026 TO PROVIDE REVENUE FOR THE PAYMENT OF CURRENT EXPENSES PROVIDING FOR AN INTEREST IN SINKING FUND FOR ALL OUTSTANDING DEBT OF THE CITY OF SACHSE, PROVIDING FOR DUE AND DELINQUENT DATES TOGETHER WITH PENALTIES AND INTEREST, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS THE FINAL STEP IN THE APPROVAL FOR THE 2026,2027 BUDGET.
SO IN THE LAST STEP, YOU HAD TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BECAUSE IT WAS AN INCREASE.
THIS STEP IS ACTUALLY SETTING THE TAX RATE FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT RATE BETWEEN MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND DEBT SERVICE.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE, OH, DO, OH, I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T SEE YOU.
IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE.
SURE, SACHSE, TEXAS 5408 LACEY CIRCLE.
SO MY QUESTION WITH THIS TAX RATE HERE, IS THIS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS 7 MILLION BUDGET THAT'S BEEN OUTLINED? OR IS THIS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE APPROVED? OR REALLY NOT ADDITIONAL, BUT IS THIS MORE IN ALIGN WITH EXTRA THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST KIND OF FUNDING? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE EXTRA TAXES ARE GOING TOWARDS.
IS IT TOWARDS THE 7 MILLION OR A SPECIFIC PRODUCT PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON? IS MORE ALIGNED WITH WHERE'S THE INCREASE GOING TO BE GOING FOR THE BUDGET OUTSIDE OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF WHAT? SO THAT'S REALLY JUST THE QUESTION NEEDING FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO THIS SETS OUR ANNUAL TAX RATE FOR THE CITY.
THE 7 MILLION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO EARLIER WOULD BE A PART OF THAT TOTAL BUDGET.
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SO THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THIS NUMBER AS A PART OF THE, THE TWO PARTS OF THE TAX RATE, THE INTEREST IN SINKING FUND, THE INS, THAT 7 MILLION IS INCLUDED IN THAT PART OF THE TAX RATE.SO THAT'S ALL ENCOMPASSED IN THIS TOTAL TAX RATE FOR THE YEAR.
ANYONE ELSE? ANY AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR MOTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.
THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F4 AS PRESENTED.
I HAVE MOTION BY MR. PRESTENBERG TO APPROVE ITEM F4 AS PRESENTED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, AGAIN, THIS IS A RECORD VOTE.
SO MS. GRANGER, IF YOU WILL CALL THE ROLL.
LAST ONE FOR THE NIGHT, MAYOR BICKERSTAFF.
THAT IS A SEVEN TO ZERO, PASSES AGAIN.
MS. GRANGER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO RECORD VOTES ON ALL OUR FUTURE, NO? GETTING THE SENSE YOU'RE NOT WANTING TO DO IT.
[5. Consider making appointments to the Bond 2027 Committee.]
ABOUT THAT LATER.AGAIN, THANK YOU, MS. GRANGER, APPRECIATE IT.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM FIVE.
CONSIDER MAKING APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOND 2027 COMMITTEE.
LOGAN'S GONNA COME UP HERE AND FLIP THE SLIDES.
OR HOW ABOUT MR. THATCHER? OR BOTH.
SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS PRESENTED AT YOUR LAST MEETING AND YOU ALL DISCUSSED AND UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED TO DETERMINE THAT YOU WOULD MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS AT THIS PARTICULAR MEETING AND YOU WOULD CHOOSE FROM YOUR MEMBERS OF YOUR EXISTING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
AND SO JUST AS A REMINDER FOR THE PUBLIC, AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
WE TALKED ABOUT A POTENTIAL BOND DISCUSSION BACK IN EARLY 2027 AT YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT AND THAT THIS WOULD BE GOOD TIMING FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER CAPITAL PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD, POTENTIALLY FOR A 2027 BOND IN MAY.
AS I SAID, WE DISCUSSED IT AT THE LAST MEETING.
YOU ALL WILL BE ABLE TO DO THOSE APPOINTMENTS THIS TIME.
THE BOND COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE THIS FALL TO BE ABLE TO MEET AND DISCUSS POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO A RECOMMENDATION.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, PROBABLY DECEMBER, JANUARY TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL.
AND IF YOU ALL DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH MAYOR, AS YOU POINTED OUT IN THE LAST MEETING, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO.
BUT IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FOR CALLING A BOND ELECTION, YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THAT AT A REGULAR MEETING.
THE LAST REGULAR MEETING YOU COULD DO THAT WOULD BE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2027, BECAUSE THE LAST DAY TO CALL A BOND ELECTION FOR MAY OF 27 WOULD BE FEBRUARY 12TH.
AND SO AT THAT TIME, IF YOU DID DETERMINE TO CALL A BOND ELECTION, THE COMMITTEE WOULD MAKE EFFORTS TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THOSE PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A GENERAL ELECTION ON MAY 1ST OF 2027.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO APPOINT THOSE MEMBERS TONIGHT AND AS SOON AS YOU DO THAT, WE WOULD ARRANGE FOR THOSE MEMBERS TO BE CONTACTED AND WE WOULD START A SCHEDULE FOR THOSE MEETINGS AND THEN WE WOULD BRIEF COUNCIL PERIODICALLY REGARDING THE PROGRESS OF THE GROUP, INTERMITTENTLY THROUGHOUT THAT.
AND THEN THEY WOULD DO A PRESENTATION TO YOU END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR OR BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND AGAIN, AS YOU POINTED OUT, IF THE COUNCIL DOES APPOINT A BOND COMMITTEE TONIGHT, IT DOES NOT OBLIGATE US TO NECESSARILY HAVE AN ELECTION AND THE MONEY APPROPRIATE FOR THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND AS I ALSO MENTIONED LAST MEETING, THE COUNCIL DID AGREE TO APPOINT ONE PERSON FROM ONE OF OUR BOARD AND COMMISSIONS AT THEIR CHOOSING.
WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE THAT WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL IS.
AM I HEARING YOU RIGHT THAT YOU SAID LAST MEETING WE VOTED TO APPROVE MEMBERS TO THE BOARD ONLY FROM EXISTING? YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
YES, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE VOTED ON AND IT WAS A 7-0 VOTE.
SO WE'RE BY VIRTUE OF VOTING PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ACTIONS THAT ARE GOING ON, WE'RE NOT
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ALLOWING ANY NEW CONCEPTS INTO THE BOND PROGRAM BY TAXPAYERS OTHER THAN PEOPLE THAT'S ALREADY ON BOARD.THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDED LAST MEETING, YES.
I THINK THE CITY TAXPAYERS HERE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT YOU'RE BEING SHUT OUT BY THIS PROCESS.
THEY WOULD BE AWARE IF THEY WATCHED THE LAST MEETING WHAT WE DECIDED.
I WAS JUST GONNA REMIND COUNCIL MEMBER MILLSAP THAT HE WAS HERE AND HE DID VOTE YES ON THAT ITEM.
HOLD ON, HOLD ON, LET ME TURN YOUR MIC ON.
I REMEMBER YOU SAYING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO THIS.
I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING VOTED ON BECAUSE I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED ON IT FROM THAT CONCEPT IF THAT WAS THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED.
BUT YOU SAID YOU WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO THIS TO KEEP THE MOTION GOING THAT WE WERE GOING.
THAT I CAN'T APPROVE BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALLOWING.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ANYBODY THAT HAS A NEW CONCEPT OR DIFFERENT CONCEPT TO HAVE ANY INPUT IN IT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY PREDETERMINED THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING BY THIS AS A BOND ISSUE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT WAS DISCUSSED LAST MEETING AND THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL DID VOTE ON.
BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR DIFFERENCE OF THE THING.
YES, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH SITTING HERE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AND SAYING, I JUST WANNA LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THEY'RE BEING LOCKED OUT OF THIS PROCESS.
I MEAN, EVERYONE IN THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A BOARD OR COMMISSION MEMBER.
WE ACTUALLY WILL START TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE APPOINTMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.
HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL TO SAY YES AND CONTACT MS. GRANGER.
SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER OR PLANNING AND ZONING OR EDC OR PARKS AND REC.
THERE'S A PLETHORA OF OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE, RIGHT? COME JOIN, GET INVOLVED.
THAT'S WHAT GETS YOU INTERESTED, GETS YOU SOME KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THE CITY WORKS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS ARE.
THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE CHOOSING FROM OR THAT WE AGREED TO LAST TIME ARE IN FRONT OF YOU, RIGHT? FROM YOUR BOARD.
ALL THESE FOLKS HAVE VOLUNTEERED.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GONNA BE PRESENTED IN THIS FROM A BOND PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEY'RE GONNA COME FORWARD AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE THINK THESE FIVE PRODUCTS ARE GREAT OR THESE THREE ARE HORRIBLE AND THEY'RE GONNA PRESENT IT TO US.
AND EVERYONE ELSE, THE CITY INCLUDED, ARE GONNA BE HERE AND THEY CAN TALK AND DISCUSS ABOUT IT AND SAY, MAN, THAT BOND COMMITTEE DID A FANTASTIC JOB OR MAN, THEY'RE SMOKING, YOU KNOW WHAT? AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO ANY OF THAT.
SO AT THAT TIME, WE'LL TAKE EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK AND THE CONSIDERATION AND VOTE ON IT.
THE LAST BOND COMMITTEE, I WAS NOT PART OF IT, BUT THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB.
I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THE ANIMAL SHELTERS THERE, THE PARKS BUILDING, OR NOT PARKS BUILDING, THE PUBLIC UTILITIES BUILDING IS STARTING TO HAPPEN.
I MEAN, WE HAD SOME MOVEMENT AFTER THE LAST BOND COMMITTEE.
AND I JUST THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC IDEA AND WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR SUCCESS THE WAY WE VOTED ON IT LAST TIME.
AND MY ONLY COROLLARY IS ALL THE BOND COMMITTEE MEETINGS WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THEY ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME AND GIVE DISCUSSIONS.
OKAY, WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE'S NO, WANNA DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN NOMINEES FROM EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO APPOINT TO THIS BOARD.
JUST A QUESTION ON HOW ARE WE GONNA JUST MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DO THEM ALL AS ONE MOTION? ARE WE GONNA VOTE ON THEM ONE AT A TIME? OR HOW DO WE WANNA DO THAT? IT'S A DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL.
WE CAN TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME OR WE CAN TAKE THEM ALL AT ONCE.
IT'S REALLY A PLEASURE TO COUNSEL.
I WOULD APPOINT CIANNELLO NWANZI TO THE- OKAY, WE'LL TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME.
MUST'VE MISSED GRANGER'S, YOUR GRANDFATHER.
OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION BY, WELL.
YEAH, I WANNA CLARIFY THAT IT IS A MOTION.
OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HOWARTH TO NOMINATE CIANNELLO, I'M SORRY.
SO IF MS. HOWARTH WILL WITHDRAW HER MOTION.
OKAY, AND WE WILL GO MR. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS WAY.
OKAY, THERE YOU GO, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.
FIRSTLY, I WANNA SAY AGAIN, I WAS NOT HERE LAST MEETING, SO I HAD TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE MEETING.
IT DID VERY CLEARLY STATE THAT IT WAS EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JERMAINE MCDANIEL.
OKAY, I KNOW MS. GRANGER'S TAKING COPIOUS NOTES.
OKAY, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS WANTS TO NOMINATE JERMAINE MCDANIEL.
I'M JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE LIST
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TO MAKE IT EASIER, MR. PRESTENBERG.MS. HOWARTH, IF YOU WOULD RESTATE YOUR NOMINEE.
OH, MY APOLOGIES, MR. MILLSAP.
OKAY, IF THAT'S THE PROCESS WE'RE GONNA USE.
OKAY, IF THAT'S THE PROCESS WE'RE GONNA USE, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE RAPHAE SCHICK ON THE LIBRARY BOARD.
OH, RAPHAE, OKAY, YOU GOT THAT, MS. GRANGER.
I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE CHRIS LEE HORMAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE DANIELLE PARKER.
YES, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE TRAVIS MONDOCK.
AND IF YOU'RE READY FOR ME, I WOULD NOMINATE SCOTT MCMURRAY.
OKAY, I WANNA MAKE SURE MS. GRANGER HAS THE NAMES, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO READ THEM BACK? YES, PLEASE.
I HAVE FROM MAYOR BICKERSTAFF, SCOTT MCMURRAY, FROM MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS, JERMAINE MCDANIEL, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARTH, SHENELLA NWANZE, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MILLSAP, RAPHAE SCHICK, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LEGH-PAGE, CHRIS LEE HORMAN, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BUHLER, DANIELLE PARKER, AND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER PRESTENBERG, TRAVIS MONDOCK.
WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER TO APPROVE THAT LIST.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LIST AS PRESENTED.
OKAY, AS PRESENTED, AS STATED WILL WORK.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? OKAY.
NOW WE WILL HEAR NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
MS. GRANGER, I KNOW YOU WILL CONTACT OUR NOMINEES.
[1. Discuss and provide direction related to the design of Industrial Drive.]
YES, SIR.NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM G, DISCUSSION ITEMS. ITEM ONE, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION RELATED TO THE DESIGN OF INDUSTRIAL DRIVE.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, TYPICALLY WE DO NOT BRING DETAILS OF A DESIGN OF A DRIVE PROJECT SUCH AS THIS, BUT THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN MOST.
AND I SPECIFICALLY ASK THAT MS. ROSE, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, DO THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT BECAUSE IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT A ROAD.
IT ENCOMPASSES CODE ENFORCEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, FIRE CODE.
THERE'S SO MANY ASPECTS OF THIS AND SO MANY STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.
AND SHE'S KIND OF BEEN LEADING THAT CHARGE WITH THE VARIOUS DISCIPLINES, BASICALLY OVER THE LAST YEAR TO TRY TO COME TO SOME CONCLUSIONS.
AND SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION ONLY ITEM TONIGHT.
WE REALLY JUST WANNA GIVE YOU ALL KIND OF THE BACKGROUND ON THIS, AS YOU ALL SAW IN YOUR PACKET, SO YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION.
BUT THIS WAY SHE COULD WALK THROUGH IT WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT AND GET ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ANSWERED AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD ON NEXT STEPS FOR THE PROJECT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AS MS. NASH MENTIONED, I AM HERE REPRESENTING A MULTIDISCIPLINARY APPROACH TO THIS PROJECT, WHICH MANY OF OUR PROJECTS ARE, BUT I WILL BE LEADING THE PRESENTATION.
AND IF WE HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER, I HAVE A FLEET OF PEOPLE BEHIND ME WHO ARE READY TO ANSWER THOSE DETAILED QUESTIONS.
SO QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'LL DISCUSS TONIGHT.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT PROJECT LOCATION AND DESCRIPTION.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND TIMELINE.
AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE DESIGN OPTIONS.
AND THIS IS WHERE STAFF IS SEEKING COUNCIL'S POLICY DIRECTION.
AS MS. NASH ALLUDED, WE DON'T TYPICALLY COME TO YOU ALL AT THE 30% DESIGN PHASE.
BUT WE FELT THAT GIVEN THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES HAVE OPERATED OUT IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA AND JUST SOME OF THE COMPLEXITIES WITH THIS CASE, THAT IT'S REALLY BEST FOR POLICY DISCUSSION TO OCCUR.
SO FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK HERE IN SACHSE.
WE'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL DRIVE THERE, WITH PARK LANE LEADING OFF OF STATE HIGHWAY 78.
THE PROJECT LIMITS ARE FROM STATE HIGHWAY 78 ACROSS PARK LANE TO THE EXTENT OF INDUSTRIAL DRIVE.
AND IT'S NOT ILLUMINATED ON THIS IMAGE, BUT WE WILL ALSO
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BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE TURN RADII AS THAT DRIVE APPROACH AS WELL.MR. MILLSAP, WE DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER AS A PART OF OUR CONVERSATION.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT HERE.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF PACER RATINGS OUT HERE.
AND THE REASON THIS LOOKS LIKE CONFETTI IS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO PATCH REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS OVER TIME.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T DO SYSTEMIC REPLACEMENT AND YOU GO IN AT BITS AND PIECES.
SO WE'VE GOT PORTIONS OF THE ROADWAY THAT ARE IN GREAT CONDITION, AND THEN WE'VE GOT PORTION OF THE ROADWAY THAT ARE FAILING.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU AN ILLUSTRATION HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.
THE PROJECT WILL REPLACE 1,100 LINEAR FEET OF CONCRETE PAVEMENT ON INDUSTRIAL DRIVE, AND THEN ANOTHER 325 LINEAR FEET ON PARK LANE, ALSO LOOKING AT THAT DRIVE APPROACH.
IF YOU'VE EVER WONDERED WHAT A PACER RATING FIVE SCORE LOOKS LIKE, IT IS IN THAT IMAGE RIGHT THERE.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME PROPERTY OWNERS OR BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.
THEY CAN CERTAINLY ATTEST TO SOME OF THE CONDITIONS OUT THERE.
THE INDUSTRIAL PARK WAS ORIGINALLY PLOTTED BACK IN THE 1980S, AND IT HAS BEEN EXPANDED, PATCHED, AND REWORKED AS RECENTLY AS AUGUST 20TH OF THIS YEAR.
IT WAS INCLUDED, RECOMMENDED TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PACKAGE FROM THAT BOND 2021 PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE SEVERITY OF ISSUES OUT THERE.
SO PUBLIC WORKS, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND, BEGAN PREPPING THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR STAFF TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT A RECONFIGURED ROADWAY WOULD LOOK LIKE OUT THERE.
WE NEEDED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SITE CONDITIONS BEFORE WE COULD MOVE FORWARD IN THE DESIGN PROCESS.
SO SOME OF OUR PRELIMINARY OBSERVATIONS FLAGGED SOME CONCERNS RELATIVE TO OUTSIDE STORAGE, ILLEGAL PARKING, INOPERABLE VEHICLES, ET CETERA.
A CHANGE IN ZONING FOR THE AREA REMOVED THE SUP, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT FOR AUTO REPAIR.
TENANTS WERE ADDED BEYOND ORIGINAL PARKING CAPACITY, AND PARKING WAS NOT VERIFIED AT THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY STAGE.
SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES GOING ON OUT HERE THAT KIND OF CREATES A PERFECT STORM FOR US AS WE'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE ROAD RECONSTRUCTION COULD LOOK LIKE.
AND JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THAT TIMELINE, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT REALLY MORE THAN A YEAR, BUT AS REFLECTED ON THIS TIMELINE, STARTING BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A JOINT INSPECTION PLAN, AND THAT INCLUDES THE DISCIPLINES OF FIRE, BUILDING INSPECTION, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, PLANNING AND ZONING, AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
IN MARCH, WE COMMENCED PHASE ONE, WHICH IS WHEN WE SENT LETTERS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO LET THEM KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GONNA BE OUT HERE, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT SOME THINGS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COME TALK TO US IF YOU SEE US OUT THERE, BUT JUST TO KIND OF INTRODUCE OURSELVES OUT IN THE AREA.
AND THAT INCLUDED OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, AS MENTIONED.
APRIL, WE STARTED PHASE TWO, AND THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WERE OBSERVED DURING SOME OF THOSE INITIAL OBSERVATION PHASES, AND THEN SOME PARKING LOT RESTRIPING REQUIREMENTS WERE ALSO IDENTIFIED.
IN JUNE, WE COMMENCED PHASE THREE, AND THAT'S THE LONG-TERM COMPLIANCE.
16 OF THE 26 LOTS NOW HAVE APPROVED PARKING PLANS, SO WE WANTED TO GET OUT WAY AHEAD OF THIS AND LET THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS KNOW, THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES GOING ON OUT HERE, WE WANNA WORK WITH YOU GUYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
OUR STANDARD NOTICE PERIOD FOR MANY VIOLATIONS IN NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IS ABOUT SEVEN DAYS, BUT IN MANY CASES, WE SCALE THAT TO THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM, AND WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE BUSINESS OWNERS, BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE OBTAIN COMPLIANCE.
WE PREFER COMPLIANCE, VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, OVER ANYTHING ELSE.
SO SEPTEMBER 2026 IS WHERE WE ARE AT NOW.
WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT OF WAY CLEARED AHEAD OF CONSTRUCTION, AND OF COURSE, OUR CONVERSATION HERE TONIGHT.
DEPENDING ON WHAT GOES ON TONIGHT, WE WILL PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS AND TENANTS REGARDING THE UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN REMIND THEM TO KEEP THAT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY CLEAR.
IF NEEDED, APPROXIMATELY 72 HOURS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS, WE WILL COORDINATE WITH PD TO REMOVE ANY REMAINING VEHICLES, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM.
SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT TWO OPTIONS TONIGHT.
THE FIRST OPTION I'M GONNA SHOW YOU IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S ENGINEER DESIGN MANUAL.
SO THIS IS OUR TYPICAL ROAD SECTION FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT, AND THAT REQUIRES THE REMOVAL OF NON-CONFORMING PAVEMENT.
IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT TO THE INDUSTRIAL DRIVE AREA, THERE'S ROLL-DOWN CURBS,
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AND THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING GOING ON ON THAT ROLL-DOWN CURB, AND A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES ARE UTILIZING THAT SPACE FOR THEIR OPERATIONS.IF WE WERE TO GO WITH DESIGN OPTION ONE, WHICH IS OUR STANDARD OPTION, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF A LOT OF THAT EXCESS PAVEMENT, AS ILLUSTRATED IN THIS GRAPHIC, AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE CLEARER TO SEE IT IN ACTUALLY THE NEXT GRAPHIC, AND IT WOULD REMOVE ON-STREET PARKING, AND IT WOULD PROVIDE DUMPSTER PAD LOCATIONS.
OPTION TWO, THIS IS WHERE THAT ROLL-DOWN CURB EXISTS.
THIS DOES NOT CONFORM WITH OUR ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL, BUT IT DOES ALLOW THAT CONTINUED USE OF NON-CONFORMING PAVEMENT AND ON-STREET PARKING WHILE ALSO PROVIDING FOR THE DUMPSTER PAD LOCATIONS.
SO THE REASON WE'RE BRINGING THESE TWO OPTIONS TO YOU ALL TONIGHT IS WE RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE OPERATED OUT IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT SOME OF THESE DESIGN OPTIONS COULD CHANGE THE WAY THAT THEY OPERATE OR CHANGE SOME OF THEIR PARKING RELATIVE TO THEIR BUSINESS, AND WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT, AND WE FELT THAT, AS MS. NASH MENTIONED, THAT IT REALLY ROSE TO THE LEVEL OF POLICY DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
SO AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, CITY STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ON WHICH OPTION TO PURSUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN FOR INDUSTRIAL DRIVE.
CURRENTLY, WE'RE AT 30% DESIGN, SO WE ARE NOT WAY DOWN THE ROAD WITH THIS, BUT THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT TIME FOR YOUR INPUT AND DIRECTION SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW BEST TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN AGAIN, BASED ON THE DIRECTION RECEIVED, DESIGN WILL RECOMMENCE AND STAFF WILL PRESENT TO COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AWARD.
AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? MS. HOWARTH.
I DID NOT SEE ANY PRICE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE OR TWO.
I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A PRICE DIFFERENCE.
WE'RE PRETTY EARLY ON IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, SO OUR PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE IS THAT I BELIEVE OPTION ONE IS $200,000 CHEAPER THAN OPTION TWO.
AND SO THEN OPTION TWO IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
AND THAT WOULD REFLECT ALL THE ADDITIONAL PAYMENT.
HAVE WE HEARD, THIS IS NEW TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE, OR HAS ANYBODY, ANY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS OUT THERE SEEN EITHER OF THESE PLANS OR IS THIS ALL NEW TONIGHT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE PLANS, BUT WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM FOR QUITE A WHILE TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE.
IS THERE A STRONG PREFERENCE FROM PROPERTY OWNERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? I'M ASSUMING THERE IS, AND I CAN PROBABLY GUESS WHICH ONE IT IS.
I THINK THE CONSENSUS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS OUT THERE, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT THE CONSENSUS, AS I UNDERSTAND, IS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THE ROAD FIXED.
I THINK THAT'S THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR THEM.
RELATIVE TO THEIR OPERATIONS, I THINK THAT'S DEPENDENT UPON THE DIFFERENT PROPERTY AND BUSINESS OWNERS OUT THERE.
SO MAYBE NOT AS MUCH CONSENSUS ON THAT OTHER THAN- I WOULDN'T FEEL CONFIDENT SPEAKING TO THAT.
I HAD A QUESTION ON THE TOP AS WELL, BUT WE'LL WAIT ON THAT.
YOU TALKED ABOUT RESTRIPING THE DIFFERENT LOTS OR 13 OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS.
DID THAT CHANGE THE PARKING UTILIZATION OR THEIR FLOW OF BUSINESS? YES, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND I'LL HAVE TO HAVE MATT ROBINSON COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS SOME BUSINESSES WERE UTILIZING SOME OF THEIR PARKING SPOTS FOR STORAGE, AND THERE WERE SOME OTHER VARIATIONS OF THAT, BUT THEY ALL, 16 HAVE THE APPROVED PARKING PLANS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE PARKING SPOTS FOR THEIR BUSINESSES.
WELL, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M A CLEAN SLATE.
I WANT WHAT THEY WANT OUT THERE.
AND WHAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO MANEUVER SOME OF THEIR VEHICLES IN AND OUT OF THERE.
MY CONCERN IS THE FAR RIGHT OF THE- MAKE IT BACK TO THOSE OPTIONS.
YEAH, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH ONE, BUT YEAH, THE CIRCLE THERE, I'VE BEEN IN PLACES WHERE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA PARK, RIGHT? AND SO AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP THAT CLEAN AND CLEAR, I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT FROM A TURN-ON TYPE STANDPOINT.
BUT YES, I MEAN, WE CAN'T HAVE
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THE STAGE FIVE PARKING OR DRIVEWAYS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT.BUT I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IF FOLKS ARE GONNA WATCH THIS LATER ON OR ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TO GIVE YOUR OPINION, SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE.
I LIKE THE CAR PUN WITH THE AUTO BODY.
OPTION TWO, AND I THINK EVERYBODY THERE WOULD REFER OPTION TWO.
NOW, ALSO YOU MENTIONED SUPS, SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
AND THIS IS CALLED INDUSTRIAL PARK.
AND LAST WEEK I ASKED THE DEFINITION OF INDUSTRIAL AND I THINK THE MAYOR MENTIONED THAT INDUSTRIAL WOULD TYPICALLY MEAN THAT SOMETHING IS BEING PRODUCED.
SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT SOME OF THE CURRENT RESIDENTS THERE CAN NO LONGER BE THERE? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE.
I THINK OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET COMPLIANCE WHERE THEY'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
BUT WE RESPECT THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME.
YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SOME VERY UNIQUE BUSINESSES THERE THAT IF WE CAN DRESS THIS PLACE UP TO WHERE IT'S DECENT TO DRIVE IN.
AND LIKE I MENTIONED, AND YOU MENTIONED WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS PARK LANE BETWEEN THE RURAL TRACK AND THE 78 SO WE GET OFF WITH THEM.
SAFETY PROBLEMS THAT ARE VERY, VERY SERIOUS.
BUT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST THAT MAKE IT COMPATIBLE TO THEIR LIKELY GOOD COMMUNITY NEIGHBORS.
WHEN WE PASSED CBD OIL LAW IN LAWRENCE A FEW WHILE BACK AND I WASN'T IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT WE PASSED IT ANYWAY BEFORE THE STATE EVEN MADE IT LEGAL.
SO WE VIOLATED OUR OWN OATH OF OFFICE BY VOTING ON IT BECAUSE WE PASSED A LAW THAT ALLOWED IT TO BE SOMETHING TO BE SOLD IN SEXY THAT WASN'T LEGAL AT THE TIME EVEN THOUGH IT BECAME LEGAL WITHIN TWO OR THREE WEEKS AND WE KNEW IT WAS DOING IT.
BUT WE LIMITED IT TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE A DANCE STUDIO THERE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 25 YEARS.
SO WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA SELL CBD OIL NEXT DOOR TO A LITTLE GIRL'S DANCE STUDIO.
I THINK WE WOULD START NEEDING TO BE CAREFUL OF WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING TO BE IN THESE AREAS AND IS THAT WHAT WE WANT? BUT BEING AN INDUSTRIAL, MOST OF IT'S AUTOMOTIVE ORIENTED.
IF A CAR'S THERE TO BE FIXED, IT TAKES A FOOTPRINT.
SOMEBODY HAS TO COME AND PICK IT UP AND DELIVER IT.
SO PARKING SPACE ORDINANCE IS ALMOST OUT OF ORDER TO EVEN CONSIDER THIS.
SO I THINK OPTION TWO WOULD BE DEFINITELY THE BEST STATION AND I WOULD DEFINITELY THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A PERSONAL CANVAS TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THEM OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME PEOPLE BEGINNING TO LEAVE THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T OPERATE UNDER ANY OTHER CONDITIONS.
OKAY, I HOPE WE GET A CHANCE TO HEAR WHAT SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS WOULD LIKE IN THIS BUT I IMAGINE DESIGN OPTION TWO IS DEFINITELY BETTER FOR BUSINESS.
PARKING AND GETTING PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS IS THE LIFELINE OF HOW THEY MAKE MONEY.
SO THIS ISN'T A STANDARD STREET.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY PARKING AND A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR LIVELIHOOD.
WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE CUSTOMERS AND THE EMPLOYEES IN THIS AREA.
IT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY TONIGHT, HOWEVER, I KNOW STAFFS COULD BE IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
MR., EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.
SO IF I MISSED IT ON THE SLIDE YOU HAVE UP THERE, WHAT ARE THE GREEN BOXES? THOSE ARE THE DUMPSTER PADS.
THAT WAS MY CONCERN IS IF WE REMOVED OFF STREET PARKING, IF YOU WILL, HOW ARE THEY GONNA GET THROUGH THE PARKING LOTS TO THE DUMPSTERS? BUT YOU'VE ADDRESSED THAT, THAT'S GREAT.
I ASSUMED, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO ASSUME.
OVER THE YEARS, AND I DON'T SEE IN THE NIGHT, ONE BUSINESS OWNER IN THERE SPECIFICALLY HAS COMPLAINED MANY, MANY TIMES ABOUT THE STREET AND WE'VE BAND-AIDED THAT THING TO DEATH.
THE BAND-AIDS DON'T DO ANYTHING.
BAND-AIDED OVER A BULLET HOLE, THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO SAY.
THE OTHER BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE WAY THE PROPERTY IN GENERAL LOOKS AND IT'S ALL OF THIS NON-CONFORMING.
SO WE DIDN'T ALLOW NON-CONFORMING CONSTRUCTION ON BAILEY.
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WE DIDN'T ALLOW NON-CONFORMING CONSTRUCTION ON MICUNA.WE DIDN'T ALLOW NON-CONFORMING CONSTRUCTION ON IRVINE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING NON-CONFORMING CONSTRUCTION? IF WE DON'T ALLOW IT, WHY ARE WE ALLOWING IT? EVERYBODY THAT HAS TALKED TO ME WANTS THE STREET FIXED.
THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HAVE TALKED TO ME WANT THAT PLACE CLEANED UP.
I THINK THAT'S ALL THE NOTES I HAVE.
I REGISTER THAT AS OPTION ONE.
OKAY, SO YOU HAD 16 OF THE 26 LOTS, SO 61% OF THE PEOPLE ARE APPROVED FOR PARKING.
THE OTHER ONES, HAVE WE CONTACTED THEM OR THEY JUST? YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON IT WITH THEM.
AND THEN I'VE BEEN DOWN THAT STREET.
I ACTUALLY BLEW OUT TWO TIRES ON THAT EXACT HOLE AS I WAS GOING TO GET IT FIXED.
BUT IT WAS STILL PUT INTO THE INSURANCE AS THE FLATS.
SO YES, IT DOES NEED TO BE FIXED, BUT IT'S A HOT MESS BACK THERE TRYING TO BACK UP AND TRYING TO GET IT.
SO WHATEVER ENFORCEMENT THAT WE HAVE, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE BACK THERE THAT ARE CONFORMING.
AND THEN THERE'S PROBABLY THE EIGHT, THE, IS THAT RIGHT, 10? 10 OF THEM THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE THE PROBLEM CHILD THAT ARE THERE.
I'M ON BOARD WITH TWO BECAUSE THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THAT SIDE PARKING.
I THINK THAT OPTION TWO IS, IDEALLY IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE BUSINESSES OUT THERE.
HOWEVER, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OUR DESIGN MANUAL, AS PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS SAID, DOES NOT ALLOW OPTION TWO, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH OUR DESIGN MANUAL.
SO WE HAVE OUR ILLUSTRIOUS CITY ATTORNEY HERE.
I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY HOW WE COULD DO OPTION TWO.
ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD, MS. MORRIS? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ON THE RIGHT PAGE HERE.
SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT OPTION TWO DOES NOT CONFORM TO OUR OWN DESIGN STANDARDS? CORRECT, IT REPLACES EXISTING CONDITIONS LIKE FOR LIKE.
SO IF THE CITY IS BOUND BY ITS OWN DESIGN STANDARDS, SO IT WOULD NEED TO CONFORM TO OUR STREET DESIGN MANUAL.
IF IT DOESN'T CONFORM, WE HAVE TO CONFORM IF WE EXPECT EVERYBODY ELSE TO CONFORM.
CORRECT, SO AGAIN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, OPTION TWO FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, FROM AN EXCEPTION STANDPOINT, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
THERE IS NO OPTION TWO, UNLESS WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
UNLESS YOU CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF CLARIFY IS BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK OPTION TWO IS BY FAR THE BEST OPTION FOR THE BUSINESSES OUT THERE.
HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, DO WE HAVE MONEY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PACKAGE BOND TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE? I BELIEVE SO.
OKAY, THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE NON-CONFORMING ISSUE, BUT AT LEAST I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DIP INTO GENERAL FUND TO COME UP WITH EXTRA MONEY FOR A NON-CONFORMING USE, SO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MONEY.
I'M CERTAINLY NOT QUALIFIED FOR THIS, BUT IS THERE NOT A DESIGNATION BETWEEN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA AND A RESIDENTIAL? MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS EXAMPLES ARE RESIDENTIAL ROADS.
THIS IS OUR ONE INDUSTRIAL AREA IN OUR ENTIRE CITY.
I DON'T BELIEVE OUR DESIGN MANUAL DISTINGUISHES BETWEEN THE TWO.
I THINK MR. NESBITT CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
WE DON'T DISTINGUISH BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL OR INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S A COLLECTOR, RESIDENTIAL, ARTERIAL STREET TYPE CLASSIFICATION.
DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY.
OKAY, WE DON'T CONFORM TO DESIGN MANUAL, ALL RIGHT.
WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A TERM SUP, SPECIAL USE PERMIT? DOES THAT NOT MEAN AND IMPLY THAT IT DOESN'T MEET THE EXACT STANDARDS THAT ARE LISTED AND IT HAS A SPECIAL PERMISSION? IF THAT BE, WOULDN'T THAT NOT SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, IS THOSE THAT DON'T CONFORM TO ISSUE THEM A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BECAUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PURE DEFINITION OF INDUSTRIAL, YOU'RE GONNA DO
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SOMETHING HARDSCAPE OR HARD CONCEPT, A DESIGN, A DANCE STUDIO WOULDN'T EVEN BE QUALIFIED TO FIT IN HERE.SO I THINK IF WE NEED TO RETHINK THIS, THERE ARE WAYS TO DO IT, AND SO I THINK SUP JUST COULD RECLASSIFY ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A SPECIAL SUP FOR EACH ONE OF THEM.
YEAH, SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON.
WE'VE GOT THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL, WHICH TALKS ABOUT OUR TYPICAL SECTIONS AND HOW THINGS ARE CONSTRUCTED, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT ZONING GOING ON HERE.
AND I'M GONNA LET MATT ROBINSON SPEAK TO THE ZONING, BUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE COME TO YOU ALL TONIGHT FOR YOUR DIRECTION, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE OPTIONS AHEAD OF US ARE CONFORMED WITH OUR EXISTING STANDARDS, OR MAYBE AS THE POLICY BODY, YOU ALL CONSIDER AMENDING THOSE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DESIRE, BUT WE CANNOT MAKE THAT DETERMINATION ON OUR OWN.
MATT, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE SUP PROCESS? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
WITH REGARDS TO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THAT'S RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE USE ITSELF, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY WITH THAT SUP, THAT IS STILL REQUIRED TO MEET ALL CITY STANDARDS.
NOW, THE COUNCIL, DURING THE SUP PROCESS, CAN ADD ADDITIONAL DEVIATIONS AS FAR AS THEY WANT ADDITIONAL SCREENING TO MITIGATE THE SPECIFIC USE ITSELF, BUT THEY CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THE ACTUAL STANDARDS ITSELF.
THAT WOULD BE THROUGH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT, BUT THAT WOULD NOT SPEAK TO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL, WHICH IS A SUBDIVISION, A PART OF THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS.
SO ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL REFERS TO THE STREETS.
NOT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE STREET.
OKAY, SO THEN THE SUP WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM TO ME.
WELL, I THINK WHAT MR. ROBINSON IS SAYING IS THAT THE SUP IS RELATED JUST TO ZONING.
IT IS NOT, THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL IS A CONSTRUCTION STANDARD, NOT A ZONING STANDARD.
SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE SUP APPLIES SPECIFICALLY TO AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY.
IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THE STREET ITSELF.
WHY, AGAIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. ROBINSON.
ANY, AND AS MR. NESBITT SAID, AS FAR AS THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF STREETS, THE ZONING IS IRRELEVANT IN THE SENSE OF WHETHER THE, IT'S AN SUP FOR WHATEVER, INDUSTRIAL, RESIDENTIAL, WHAT HAVE YOU, AND WHETHER THIS IS A STREET THAT MAINLY SERVES INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS, IF YOU WILL, VERSUS A STREET THAT HAS RETAIL HOMEOWNERS.
THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL GOVERNS THAT.
WE HAVE ON-STREET PARKING ON 5TH STREET.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS ON-STREET PARKING AND 5TH STREET? THE ZONING.
AND THE PROBLEM HERE IS WE'VE GOT ROLL-DOWN CURBS.
AND I'M, SEE IF WE CAN GET A PICTURE.
THAT, MATT JUST REMINDED ME THIS, THIS STREET ALSO HAS DESIGNATED ON-STREET PARKING.
BUT YOU CAN SEE IN THIS IMAGE HERE, THOSE ARE ROLL-DOWN CURBS, AND THOSE ARE INTENT, I MEAN, THEY'RE EXACTLY AS DESCRIBED.
AND THEY'RE STAGING VEHICLES FOR REPAIRS ON THOSE ROLL-DOWN CURBS THAT JUST NOT, AS PART OF THEIR INTENDED USE.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE VARIATION THAT WE'RE SEEING OUT THERE.
IS THE REASON 10 PEOPLE HAVE NOT HAD APPROVED PARKING PLANS BECAUSE THEY JUST SIMPLY DON'T HAVE ROOM TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THIS DESIGN REQUIREMENT? I THINK IT'S A FUNCTION OF WORKING THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL SITE PLANS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE AND THE SPECIFIC USERS THAT ARE IN THERE AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
THERE IS SOME, THERE WERE SOME USERS THERE THAT WERE DOING STORAGE OF AUTO REPAIR VEHICLES, WHICH IS NOT PERMITTED BY THE ORDINANCE.
SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF ISSUES GOING ON OUT THERE.
AND WE ARE WORKING OUR BEST TO TRY TO SOLVE THOSE.
AND MS. ROSE, IF I MISSED IT, I APOLOGIZE.
MS. BUHLER HAD BROUGHT UP THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL DRIVE AND FIFTH STREET.
THE REASON WE HAVE ON-STREET PARKING THERE IS WE DO HAVE MORE RIGHT OF WAY FOR FIFTH STREET TO ALLOW.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT FAIR? OKAY, YEAH.
SO THAT'S HOW WE CAN ALLOW ON-STREET PARKING.
OKAY, SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO THERE'S NO ACTION THAT WILL BE TAKEN TONIGHT.
SO IF I UNDERSTAND MS. MOORE'S CORRECTLY, LEGALLY, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OPTION TWO.
SO THAT, TO ME, CERTAINLY OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION, THAT MEANS OBVIOUSLY OPTION ONE CAN BE DONE REGARDLESS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR STANDARDS ALLOW NOW.
IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES THAT THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE DOING OPTION ONE, IF FOR EXAMPLE, THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS DETRIMENTAL TO THE BUSINESSES OUT THERE,
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THEN WE WOULD, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE WOULD, TO DO AN OPTION TWO, IF YOU WILL, WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE OUR ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARD.YOU COULD DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL.
WHICH OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO DO THAT, TIME INVOLVED WITH THAT, AND ULTIMATELY, LIKE WITH ANY PROPOSAL, YOU COULD BRING US SOMETHING AND WE CAN SAY, NO, WE DON'T LIKE THAT.
COULD BE, BACK TO SQUARE ONE, COULD BE, OKAY.
THAT'S, AGAIN, FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, THAT'S WHERE I SEE IT.
I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A LEGAL OPTION TO DO OPTION TWO.
WE CAN CERTAINLY, AS THE COUNCIL DESIRES, WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK STAFF TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY MODIFYING THE ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS TO ACCOUNT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, OR THE COUNCIL CAN SAY OPTION ONE IT IS.
AND AGAIN, NO ACTIONS TONIGHT, IT'S JUST TRY AND GIVE STAFF SOME DIRECTION.
ALL RIGHT, SO ON THE DESIGN ONE, IT'S GOT THAT SIX INCH CURB, SO IT'S GONNA BE A FLAT CURVE, AND THEN THOSE HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS ARE GONNA BASICALLY JUST BE GOING OVER THAT AND BUSTING THAT CURB UP.
SO WE WILL BE IN THE SAME BOAT AS WHAT WE WERE THERE.
IS THAT? THEY'RE BOTH SO TALL AND I CAN'T SEE.
IT'S A FLAT CURB, RIGHT? WHEREAS THE OTHER ONE IS A- IT'S A STANDARD CURB, YES.
SO IF THEY WERE USING THAT, GOING INTO THEIR PARKING SPOT WITH A LITTLE SPOT, GOING INTO THEIR THING, OR JUST DRIVING OFF THE SIDE OF IT, GOING BACK AND FORTH.
SO WITH THIS, WITH OPTION ONE, WE WOULD PROVIDE THEM WITH A FIRE LANE OR DRIVEWAY ACCESS TO USE FOR THEIR TRUCK ACCESS.
BUT AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE PARKING AND DRIVING OVER THAT STANDARD CURB.
YEAH, SO I'M JUST SAYING ON THE PINK, THAT'S BASICALLY THEIR DRIVEWAY.
NO, THAT'S OPTION TWO, OPTION ONE.
SO RATHER THAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE ONES THAT HAVE LIKE 50 CARS OUT THERE, THAT THEY WOULD BE DRIVING OFF THE SIDE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT OFF THAT CURB.
WELL, WE WOULD REMOVE THE EXISTING PARKING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
OFF OF THERE? OKAY, JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY, ONE, IT'S A FLAT CURB.
THE OTHER ONE'S A SLANTED CURB BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THEM IN THERE.
I'VE SEEN THE BIG TRUCKS THAT HAVE WENT IN THERE.
THEY JUST KIND OF DRIVE WHERE THEY AT AT WILL.
SO THAT'S GOING TO EITHER, THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THAT AND BREAKING UP A CURB AND TEARING UP THAT CONCRETE THAT WE JUST PAID HOWEVER MUCH ON.
AND AGAIN, A COUPLE OF MY NEW POINTS.
VERTICAL CURB VERSUS A LAY-DOWN CURB, NUMBER ONE.
AND NUMBER TWO, THE PINK, THERE ARE DRIVEWAY APPROACHES THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
WHICH OBVIOUSLY, AS WHEN I REDID MY DRIVEWAY, YOU HAD TO HAVE A PERMIT TO CONNECT TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
NOW, I KNOW IT'S OUR PROJECT, SO IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THOSE ARE DRIVEWAY APPROACHES.
OKAY, SO WHAT STAFF IS LOOKING FOR IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION.
AGAIN, I THINK MS. MORRIS LAID IT OUT PRETTY WELL.
WE CAN GIVE STAFF THE DIRECTION TO PROCEED WITH OPTION ONE, OR WE CAN ASK STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MODIFY THE DESIGN MANUAL.
NEXT TIME WE DISCUSS THIS, CAN WE HAVE IT TO WHERE WE CAN GET RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER INPUT, PLEASE? SURE. THANK YOU.
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? MAYOR, IF I MAY, I BELIEVE PRIOR TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AMENDMENT TO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL, THERE WAS A CONSENSUS TO EXPLORE OPTION TWO.
IF THAT'S STILL THE SAME SENTIMENT, WE COULD GO EXPLORE WHAT AN AMENDMENT TO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL COULD LOOK LIKE AND BRING THAT BACK FOR COUNCIL'S INFORMATION.
YEAH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, OPTION TWO IS DEFINITELY, IN THE WAY I SEE IT, IS DEFINITELY MORE FAVORABLE TO THE BUSINESSES OUT THERE.
AND IDEALLY, IN MY OPINION, IDEALLY THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SHOOT FOR IS TO HAVE A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR BOTH PARTIES.
RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, THE WAY OUR AWARENESS HAVE BEEN COMPOSED, IF YOU WILL, IS LIKE THERE'S NOT MUCH FLEXIBILITY, WELL, REALLY NO FLEXIBILITY.
SO WITH WHAT MS. ROSE STATED, IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT FOR STAFF TO GO FORWARD? IF I HEAR OBJECTIONS, IF I DON'T HEAR OBJECTIONS, I SHOULD SAY, THEN WE WILL GO WITH WHAT MS. ROSE SAID.
WELL, LET ME TURN YOUR MIC ON.
YEAH, I OBJECT TO CHANGING ORDINANCE.
I DON'T NEED TO, YOU DON'T NEED TO BRING AN ORDINANCE CHANGE TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALLOWED, THAT'S IN MY OPINION.
THANK YOU, MS. FRANKS, OR EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.
WE SEEM TO HAVE NO PROBLEM CHANGING ORDINANCES FOR WHAT WE WANT.
WE CHANGED THE ORDINANCE TO HAVE ELITE EVOLVE BIOLOGICS COME IN, THAT WAS NOT PART OF IT.
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WE HAD THE HOSPITAL COME IN, THAT WAS NOT PART OF IT.WE CHANGED THE DESIGN CONCEPT WHEN WE ALLOWED THE STATION TO COME IN.
THE STREETS ARE TOO NARROW, THE CORNERS ARE TOO SHARP, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, OUR HOUSING WERE NOT ON SPACE.
SO I DON'T SEE THAT THIS CHANGING DESIGN IS A MAJOR PROBLEM, EXCEPT WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL PARTS OF CONCEPT, PART OF CITY.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'RE SHOWING OUR ATTITUDE TO SAY WE REALLY DON'T WANT INDUSTRIAL TYPES OF BUSINESSES HERE, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT BUSINESSES IN A SMALLER CITY IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF A BUSINESS.
WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE BUSINESSES.
I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THE GUTS TO HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS IN TOWN.
SO WE ALL MOVED OUT BECAUSE IT'S MORE FRIENDLY TO DO BUSINESS OTHER PLACES.
BUT I'M STILL HERE AND I'M GONNA STAY HERE.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO BE HERE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO BE HERE.
WE HAVE ONE COMPANY IN THIS PLACE THAT I CAN JUST NAME IT OUT, THAT LEFT BECAUSE THEY WERE ASKED TO TAKE AN EDC GRANT BEAUTIFICATION AND WHEN THEY DID, THAT OPENED THE DOOR FOR THEM TO COME IN AND SAY, WELL YOU DON'T MEET CODES, YOU GOTTA DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
AND THE CODE UPDATES COST THEM MORE THAN THE GRANT FOR BEAUTIFICATION, SO WHAT'D THEY DO? THEY JUST SOLD OUT AND MOVED.
AND THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO SOME OTHER PEOPLE IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
WE HAVE LOTS OF GOOD BUSINESSES DOWN THERE.
WE HAVE SOMETHING WE WANNA BRING ATTENTION TO THE CITY OF SACHSE, THE PIANO REPAIR COMPANY DOWN THERE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE TOPS IN THE COUNTRY.
AND PEOPLE WANNA COME TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH THIS MESS AND WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT DESIGN CODE.
AND THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENT DESIGN CODE IF THAT'D BE THE CASE FOR BUSINESSES IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS AS OPPOSED TO RESIDENTIAL AND HOME AREAS.
AND WE JUST SEEM TO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ONE AND I THINK WE'RE GOING DOWN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
I THINK YOUR COMMENT BRINGS UP SOME REALLY INTERESTING POINTS, BUT ONE OF WHICH IS THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT ZONES AND CHARACTERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THAT WE DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO MATCH THOSE ZONES AND CHARACTERISTICS ACCORDING TO THE USE, WHICH IS WHAT ZONING IS, REALLY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY AT THIS POINT WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD AS A DISCUSSION ITEM BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL AND WE NEEDED SOME POLICY DIRECTION BECAUSE WE FELT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE FOR STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS JUNCTURE WITHOUT POLICY DIRECTION FROM THE POLICY BODY.
YEAH, THAT WAS A LOT OF OPINION, NOT A LOT OF FACT.
THOSE WERE NOT CHANGING ORDINANCES, THOSE WERE PDS.
TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING, TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING AN ORDINANCE FOR THE WHOLE CITY, FOR EVERY STREET IN THE CITY.
THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING THE SAME.
YES, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, 16 AND 26 HAVE NOW COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
AND I FEEL LIKE THIS MIGHT BE LIKE THE LAND THAT TIME FORGOT A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? WILD WEST A LITTLE BIT OUT THERE.
AND I DON'T WANT THIS COUNCIL TO BE MISCONCEIVED THAT WE ARE NOT BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
WE WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THESE FOLKS.
BUT I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT THE SKY VIEW HERE OF OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
YOU'VE GOT 50 CARS IN A PARKING LOT THERE THAT'S NOT EVEN A PARKING LOT.
IT'S JUST, IT'S 10 PARKING SPACES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THERE HAS TO BE A HAPPY MEDIUM.
AND I THINK THE BUSINESS OWNERS UNDERSTAND THAT, HEY, WE'RE ABOUT TO GET A NICE, GREAT ROAD OUT HERE AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN IT.
WELL, PART OF THE MAINTAINING IS COMING TO CODE AND SOME OF THESE THINGS.
SO I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE PUSH AND PULL HERE THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
AND TO BE HONEST, I DID NOT GET, WHEN I WAS SAYING, HEY, I'M AN OPEN SLATE OR WHATEVER, I WANT TO FOLLOW OUR GUIDELINES SET ASIDE BY OUR ANCESTORS ALONG THE WAY.
I KNOW IT'S BEING SILLY, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR BUSINESSES TOO.
SO THERE'S A HAPPY MEDIUM THERE.
SO KIND OF MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS SAYS, I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED YOU TO COME AND SAY, WELL, WE COULD DO OPTION TWO IF WE CHANGE THIS, THIS AND THIS AND THIS, MAYBE OPTION ONE WITH, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE.
HEY, WE GOT THIS OTHER 10 LOTS RESTRIPED.
THEY CAME WITH SOME OTHER OPTIONS.
I'D IMAGINE THE STRIPES ARE JUST KIND OF AN INITIAL THING, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESTRIPED AGAIN, I WOULD THINK, OR MAYBE NOT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN THERE, CHANGE EVERYTHING FROM A CONCRETE STANDPOINT, AND THEN PAINT AGAIN OR WHATNOT.
SO YEAH, BE CREATIVE, BUT BE CREATIVE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT THAT I TOO APPRECIATE HAVING BUSINESSES IN FACC, BUT EVERY BUSINESS, JUST
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LIKE EVERY RESIDENT, IS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH CODE.AND THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE SINGLING OUT ONE BUSINESS OVER ANOTHER, BECAUSE WE LIKE THEM.
THEY NEED TO PUT THEIR CARS WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO CART, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MOW THEIR GRASS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MOW THEIR GRASS, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PARK WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PARK, JUST LIKE WE APPLY THE LAW EVENLY ACROSS THE CITY.
AND THAT'S MY ONLY EXPECTATION FOR BUSINESS, IS THAT WE ALL FOLLOW THE RULES THAT WE'VE ALL AGREED TO.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANTI-BUSINESS OR ANTI-RESIDENT TO EXPECT THAT MINIMUM STANDARD AND ZONING AND CODE TO ALL BE COMPLIED WITH.
AND I DON'T PARTICULARLY, IT'S NEVER FAIR TO APPLY AT ONE PLACE AND NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THAT'S NOT HOW IT SHOULD WORK.
APPLY TO EVERYONE EQUALLY OR WE SHOULDN'T DO IT AT ALL.
WELL, I THINK WE'RE IN A NO END DEBATE HERE BECAUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH ANY OF THIS GARBAGE THAT I JUST SAID.
IF YOU APPLY HERE AND NOT THERE, IT'S NOT FAIR.
OKAY, LET'S JUST THROW THIS OUT.
WHAT ABOUT THE LAUSAU'S GIRAFFE ON PART OF TOWN, BUT THE CASKET IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN? FIRST OF ALL, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE CASKET WAS LEGAL, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WENT BACK AND PUT PRESSURE ON THE LAWYERS TO RETHINK HIS OPINION AND SAID IT WAS A NUISANCE.
WELL, IF WE CAN DO ONE, WHY CAN'T WE DO THE OTHER? FAIR IS FAIR.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH EITHER ONE OF THEM.
BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SETTING TWO DOUBLE STANDARDS AND ADJUST THEM.
THE BUILDING CODE, DESIGN MANUAL, THERE SHOULD BE, WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA AND A HEAVY USE BUSINESS AREA AND A REGULAR RETAIL BUSINESS AREA AND A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
YOU CAN'T USE THE SAME DESIGN CRITERIA ON ALL OF THEM AS AN EXAMPLE.
WHY DO WE NOT ALLOW BIG TRUCKS DOWN RESIDENTIAL STREETS? BECAUSE THE STREETS AREN'T DESIGNED TO HANDLE THAT WEIGHT ON A CONTINUED DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
AND INDUSTRIAL AREA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DESIGN THAT.
AND AS I MENTIONED TO A COUPLE PEOPLE ALREADY TONIGHT, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT OR WHETHER WE REALIZE IT OR NOT, THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING AT ALLOWING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TRUCKS TO GET BIGGER.
SO YOU CAN'T USE THE SAME DESIGN CODE TO BUILD THE SAME STREET AND BE, HE EXPECTED ANYBODY TO HAVE A LIFE OF IT.
SO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE SAYING, JUST THE EXAMPLE, IT'S JUST A PERSONAL PREFERENCE, I DON'T WANT THIS BECAUSE, AND YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE IT.
I THINK THAT'S WRONG AND I THINK WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT BUSINESSES AS BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS AS INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND NOT EXPECT THEM TO LIVE BY THE SAME THING.
WE'RE PUTTING PANTIES IN OUR FRONT YARD AND WE'RE HAVING TO MOW OUR GRASS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE WATER OR GRASS AND ALL THESE THINGS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT AN INDUSTRIAL AREA IS.
IF YOU WANNA THINK ABOUT LOOKS AND THINGS, WHY DON'T WE JUST SIMPLY DRIVE DOWN THE ACCESS ROAD BETWEEN SPECKS AND MILES ROAD AND DOWN TOWARDS U-BOB AND LOOK AT THE TRASH THAT'S THERE.
AND WE HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING TO CLEAN IT UP BECAUSE, BUT WE LOOK AT, AND AS AN EXAMPLE, NOT VERY LONG AGO, I GOT A CODE ENFORCEMENT BACK ON MY PROPERTY, I NEED TO MOW GRASS AND IT SAYS WITHIN 150 FEET AND YOU GO DOWN AND LOOK, EVEN THE GRASS IS MOWED.
I'M DAMNED IF I'M GETTING OFF TRACK.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANNA SET STANDARDS FOR EVERYBODY.
I'M SAYING LET OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SOME INPUT IN IT ALSO AND WE'RE NOT AND WE'RE THROWING WHAT WE WANT PREFERENCE ON INDUSTRIAL AREA AS OPPOSED TO HAVING AN INDUSTRIAL PART OF TOWN.
IF WE DON'T WANT AN INDUSTRIAL PART OF TOWN, WHY DON'T WE JUST STEP UP AND SAY, WE DON'T WANT IT AND LET'S LOCK IT UP.
IT'S A UNIFORM DESIGN MANUAL FOR A REASON AND IT'S UNIFORM, SO IT'S THE SAME EVERYWHERE.
AND SO AS A RECOVERING PLANNER MYSELF, MR. ROBINSON WOULD ALSO PROBABLY RECOGNIZE THAT ZONING IS A LOT MORE SUBJECTIVE THAN CONSTRUCTION DESIGN STANDARDS.
MR. NESBITT, I WOULD GUESS, WOULD ALSO CONSIDER UNIFORM DESIGN STANDARDS AS BEST PRACTICES WITHIN THE INDUSTRY. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE IN SACHSE. WE HAVE A UNIFORM DESIGN STANDARD FOR A REASON. IT'S BEST PRACTICES AND WHETHER IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, WHETHER IT'S RETAIL AREA, WHAT HAVE YOU, WE NEED TO APPLY OUR RULES THE SAME.
FROM WHAT I GATHER IS THAT IF STAFF WERE TO CONSIDER AN OPTION TWO, IF YOU WILL, IN A SENSE OF MODIFYING THE ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS, OUR UNIFORM DESIGN STANDARDS, IT'S NOT, HEY, JUST FOR THIS AREA. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, AGAIN, BACK TO THE NAME
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OF THE ORDINANCE, IT HAD TO BE UNIFORM. I CONCUR WITH MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS THAT THERE'S NO WAY ELSE TO SLICE IT, IS THAT IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANNA CHANGE IT, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT FOR EVERYBODY. THE UNIQUE NATURE OF THIS AREA IS BECAUSE IT IS AN AREA BY STAFF'S ADMISSION, HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF OVER THE YEARS, AND I MEAN MANY, MANY YEARS, AND IT IS COME TIME TO RECTIFY THAT. BECAUSE NOT ONLY SHOULD IT BE RECTIFIED JUST BECAUSE, IT'S ALSO TOO, WE SHOULD TREAT AN AREA THAT NEEDS IMPROVED NO DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY AREA IN THE CITY THAT NEEDS IMPROVED. AND SO, IN MY OPINION, BY MODIFYING THE UNIFORM DESIGN MANUAL FOR ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH YOU REALLY CAN'T DO, BUT JUST FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, SAY YOU DID IT, THAT IS, WE WOULD HAVE A VERY HARD TIME SAYING NO TO EVERYBODY ELSE TO ASK FOR A VARIATION IN THE FUTURE. AND AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK TO UNIFORM DESIGN MANUAL. AND THE OTHER THING THAT YOU RUN INTO RHETORICALLY IS IF YOU DID SOME KIND OF OPTION TWO, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR ADA ACCESS? WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR DRAINAGE? WHAT DOES THAT, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS I CAN GO DOWN. THE RHETORICAL, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER ALL THOSE.BUT THE POINT IS, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT OUR UNIFORM DESIGN MANUAL SAYS, AND I'M PRETTY DOGGONE SURE THAT THAT UNIFORM DESIGN MANUAL DOES ADDRESS THINGS LIKE DRAINAGE, DOES ADDRESS THINGS LIKE ADA ACCESS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO IT'S BEEN CONTEMPLATED. MY RECOLLECTION ALSO SAYS THAT OVER THE YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, WE HAVE MODIFIED OUR UNIFORM DESIGN STANDARDS FOR VARIOUS REASONS. HOWEVER, IT IS MODIFIED FOR EVERYBODY.
NOT JUST, IS THAT FAIR, MR. NESBITT? OKAY. SO HAVING SAID ALL THAT, IT IS, WHILE OPTION TWO OBVIOUSLY IS MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THOSE BUSINESSES OUT THERE IN THE SHORT TERM, IN THE LONG TERM, IN MY OPINION, IT WOULD CAUSE WAY MORE PROBLEMS IF WE DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I AM FOR OPTION ONE. THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S ONLY A DISCUSSION ITEM. AND AS MR. MILLSAP RIGHTLY POINTED OUT, WE DO HAVE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ON THIS. MY THOUGHT IS THAT, AGAIN, SOMEONE ON COUNCIL, I KNOW MR. MILLSAP'S OBJECTION, ANYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL WOULD OBJECT TO FOLLOWING OUR UNIFORM DESIGN MANUAL. THEY MIGHT OBJECT TO THAT. WELL, NOT ME FOLLOWING IT. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THE STAFF HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.
YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM AND THAT NO ACTION NECESSARY ON THIS ITEM. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM H, ADJOURNMENT, THE TIME IS 8:47 P.M.
WE ADJOURN TO 8:47 P.M.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.