I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. TODAY IS MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST,
[A. Meeting Opening]
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2026. THE TIME IS GRANGER? 6:30 P.M.. WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:30 P.M..NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM TWO INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND WE ASK THY BLESSINGS UPON US THAT WE WILL LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS THAT ARE GIVEN, THAT WILL MAKE WISE DECISIONS, AND THAT WILL ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL THOSE WHO LIVE HERE.
WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS AND FOR THIS COUNTRY, STATE AND CITY THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE IN, AND WE ASK THY BLESSINGS UPON THEM. AND WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE BLESS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY TO BE SAFE AND PROTECTED AS THEY DO THEIR BEST TO PROTECT US.
AND WE ASK THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF THY SON, JESUS CHRIST.
AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU.
MAY BE SEATED. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM B PUBLIC COMMENT.
[B. Public Comment]
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL REGARDING ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION OR PUBLIC HEARING, COMMENTS REGARDING THE CONSENT AGENDA OR ANY DISCUSSION.ONLY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. THE TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SHALL BE PRESENTED. STATE SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING. ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, COUNCIL IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE'LL TAKE THOSE COMMENTS UNDER ADVISEMENT. WE DO HAVE ONE, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS. FIRST ONE IS MARTY HOBALT.
MARTY HOBALT, 5511 OAK RIDGE CIRCLE, SACHSE, TEXAS.
TOP OF THE HILL. IN THE WORDS OF GEORGE THE IMMORTAL OR THE INFAMOUS GEORGE STRAIT, WRITE THIS DOWN.
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 3RD, 2022 AT 4:32 MRS NASH WROTE ME AN EMAIL THAT SAYS YOU ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND BALANCE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL INCREASE AND THE DELTA FOR UNITED HEALTH CARE. I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT HERE, BUT I'LL GET THEM TO YOU.
LO AND BEHOLD, PRESTENBERG SLUSH FUND. SHE NEVER ANSWERED IT.
WROTE ME AN EMAIL, SAID SHE WOULD, AND THEN SHE JUST FLAT OUT LIED ABOUT IT.
DOES THAT SURPRISE ANYBODY? FOR YEARS, I THINK I'M DUE A RESPONSE.
AND WHY ARE YOU ANSWERING THAT ONE? WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME HOW MANY SPEED BUMPS ARE ON HIGH RIDGE ALLEY? YOU KNOW, YOU WROTE ME AN EMAIL THERE, AND YOU JUST FLAT OUT LIED ON THAT ONE, TOO.
AND IS THAT REALLY THE KIND OF GOVERNMENT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? BECAUSE CHANCE LINDSEY WROTE ME AN EMAIL THAT SAID, BASICALLY, IN MY OPINION, THAT Y'ALL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO SIT UP HERE AND LIE, BUT YOU'RE TOO BUSY TO TELL THE TRUTH. AND THERE'S ISSUE AFTER ISSUE AFTER ISSUE.
WELL THAT'S TRUE. THE OCTOBER MEETING THAT YOU WANT TO CANCEL.
WHY DO YOU WANT TO CANCEL IT? YOU COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT'S FIXING TO HAPPEN AT THE FIFTH STREET DISTRICT, BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING COMING DOWN THE ALLEY THAT NOBODY'S REALLY TALKING ABOUT, AND THERE AREN'T ANY ANSWERS.
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT PEER CITIES AND WHY THE LIST IS WHAT THE LIST.
GO BACK AND WATCH THAT. I DON'T REALLY THINK YOU ALL KNOW.
SO WHY DON'T WE HAVE AN INTELLIGENT QUESTION ABOUT THAT? MERRITT ROAD. MAYOR, WHAT'S THE [INAUDIBLE] DATE? I THINK WE'RE WHAT, $10 MILLION IN THE HOLE? Y'ALL ARE REAL QUICK TO BLAME IT ON TEXDOT.
BUT TEXDOT IS NOT THE PROBLEM. THIS IS A LOCAL PROJECT.
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING. THAT MEANS EVERYTHING.
SO YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE FOUR YEARS OVER. I GOT AN EMAIL FROM 2022 SAYING IT WASN'T ON THE TIP.
SO HOW'S IT GOING TO GET LIT? OH, WELL, THAT'S WHAT SOMEBODY'S TELLING US.
NO, SOMEBODY DROPPED THE BALL AND WE'RE $20 MILLION OR SOMETHING IN THE HOLE NOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.
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NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS FROM JOSEPH ORESKOVICH.I KNOW I'M SAYING THAT WRONG. IS HE? OH, THERE YOU ARE.
YEAH, I'M SURE I, I'M SURE I BUTCHERED THAT. SO IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE.
YES, SIR. JOSEPH ORESKOVICH, RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SACHSE.
I'D LIKE TO READ AN EMAIL THAT I WROTE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR BACK IN JULY.
MY NAME IS JOSEPH ORESKOVICH. I'M A RESIDENT OF SACHSE.
I'M A BUSINESS OWNER. I'M A HUSBAND, AND I'M A YOUNG MAN THAT DESIRES TO ONE DAY BE A FATHER.
AS A YOUNG MAN AND INVOLVED CITIZEN IN OUR COMMUNITY, I'M BECOMING MORE AND MORE AWARE OF AN ISSUE THAT IS NOT FLASHY AND IT'S NOT POPULAR TO TALK ABOUT, AND THAT IS INFANT ABANDONMENT. IN TEXAS, MORE THAN 15 INFANTS AS OF THE DATE OF THIS WRITING HAVE BEEN FOUND ABANDONED THIS YEAR, NOT ALL OF WHICH WERE FOUND ALIVE. SO IN 1999, THE STATE OF TEXAS RESPONDED TO THIS CRISIS BY ENACTING THE SAFE HAVEN LAW, BECOMING THE FIRST STATE TO ENACT WHAT HAS BECOME KNOWN AS THE BABY MOSES LAW.
SO WHY, THEN, ARE ANY BABIES ABANDONED INSTEAD OF BEING LEGALLY AND SAFELY SURRENDERED? AND IT COMES DOWN TO ONE WORD, AND THAT IS ANONYMITY.
THE DATA SHOWS THAT A PARENT IN CRISIS IS INCREDIBLY CONCERNED WITH BEING IDENTIFIED, WHETHER IT BE FROM SHAME, FEAR, OR JUST NOT BEING ABLE TO FACE ANYONE DURING THAT VULNERABLE MOMENT.
THIS RESULTS IN BABIES BEING DISCOVERED IN BOXES, ON DOORSTEPS AND BLANKETS, IN FRONT OF POLICE STATIONS, IN THE SNOW, AND EVEN IN TRASH BAGS IN A DUMPSTER.
MY PROPOSAL IS A SAFE HAVEN BABY BOXES, WHICH OFFERS PARENTS IN CRISIS AN ANONYMOUS, SAFE CAMERA FREE, 24/7 OPTION BUILT INTO THE SIDE OF A FIRE STATION, HOSPITAL OR POLICE STATION.
THESE BOXES OPEN FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, AWAY FROM WITNESSES.
THE MOTHER THEN PLACES THE BABY INTO THIS CLIMATE CONTROLLED BOX.
THE DOOR LOCKS FROM THE OUTSIDE AND A SILENT ALARM WITHIN A MINUTE AND A HALF ALERTS ALL FIRE STATION STAFF, AND THE BABY IS THEN TAKEN TO GET MEDICAL TREATMENT AND CARE, AND EVERYBODY GETS TO SEE ANOTHER DAY.
SAFE HAVEN ALSO OPERATES A 24 HOUR NATIONAL HOTLINE, WHERE WOMEN CAN RECEIVE COUNSELING AND ASSISTANCE AT THIS DESPERATE MATTER THAT MATTERS MOST. TO DATE, THE HOTLINE HAS RECEIVED 9000 CALLS AND HAS HELPED PARENTS IN EVERY STATE AND IN THEIR HOME STATE OF INDIANA.
THROUGH PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS AND DONORS, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GENERATE BUY IN FROM CITIZENS TO COVER THE COST OF THIS RESOURCE, WHICH INCLUDES A $15,000 FEE NEEDED TO PURCHASE THE BOX, IN ADDITION TO 5000 INSTALLATION AND CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS A $500 ANNUAL FEE NEEDED FOR UPKEEP.
COUNCIL MAYOR, THANK YOU. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU VERY SOON.
[C. Council/Staff Reports and Updates]
ITEM ONE REPORT ON PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED AT THAT MEETING. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM C.2 MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ANNOUNCEMENTS REGARDING SPECIAL EVENTS, CURRENT ACTIVITIES OR LOCAL ACHIEVEMENTS. ANYONE ON COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE AUDIENCE AT THIS TIME? MISS BUHLER THANK YOU MAYOR. NOT AS IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT.
TOMORROW WE INVITE RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES TO CELEBRATE NATIONAL HOBBIT DAY AT THE MICHAEL J.
THIS FREE EVENT IS OPEN TO ALL AGES. NO REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
JK SACHSE PARK IS LOCATED AT 4310 RANCH ROAD, SACHSE, TEXAS.
THE EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND LAST UP WE HAVE FALLOWEEN IS BACK FOR ITS THIRD YEAR.
JOIN US ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 17TH FROM 4 P.M.
THIS YEAR'S EVENT IS TAKING PLACE IN THE EXPANDED AREA OF HERITAGE PARK AND FEATURES THE HAUNTED MAZE CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT, CREEPY CARNIVAL, FOOD VENDORS, LIVE PERFORMANCES, A PETTING ZOO, COSTUME CONTEST AND A DRONE SHOW AT 7:30 P.M..
KIDS, DON'T FORGET TO DRESS UP AND BRING YOUR TREAT BACKS.
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THANK YOU, MR. BUHLER. MR. MILLSAP. OKAY, FOR THE LIBRARY, THERE'S THREE THINGS GOING ON THIS NEXT WEEK I THINK YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN. THE LIBRARY IS HOSTING A STUFFY SLEEPOVER STARTING SEPTEMBER 24TH AND 25TH AND 26TH.THIS WEEK, THE PUBLIC LIBRARY IS HOSTING A STUFFY SLEEPOVER.
RESIDENTS ARE INVITED TO DROP OFF THEIR SECOND FAVORITE STUFFED ANIMAL AT THE LIBRARY DURING THE DAY OF THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH OR FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 25TH FOR AN OVERNIGHT STAY.
STUFFIES CAN BE PICKED UP ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH FOLLOWING.
FOLLOW THE LIBRARY SOCIAL MEDIA TO SEE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH YOUR STUFFY AND HOW TO DO IT.
AND THIS IS A FREE EVENT AND IT'S OPEN TO ALL AGES.
NEXT IS TEEN WEEKEND. LIBRARY HALLOWEEN DECORATIONS.
COME AND GO BRING A FRIEND AND ENJOY SOME SNACKS WHILE YOU CRAFT.
THIS EVENT IS OPEN TO ALL AGES, ALL TEENS AGES 12 TO 17.
THE APPLICATION WINDOW RUNS THROUGH OCTOBER THE 7TH.
VOLUNTEERS WILL SERVE THE LIBRARY FROM NOVEMBER THROUGH FEBRUARY, HELPING WITH EVENTS LIKE DINO, DINE OVER, DI-NOVEMBER, THE TEXAS, THE SACHSE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA AND CRAFTS AND DECORATIONS AND.
HELPING WITH THE SHELVES AND MORE. THIS OPPORTUNITY IS OPEN TO ANYONE AGE 15 AND OLDER TO APPLY.
START STARTING WEDNESDAY. VISIT THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND FOLLOW THE LINKS.
THANK YOU, MISS MILLSAP, MISTER LEGH-PAGE. ANIMAL SHELTER ANNOUNCEMENTS.
OH, MAN. THIS IS LUKE. LUKE IS AN ABSOLUTE SWEETHEART.
SINCE THEN, LUKE HAS PUT ON SO MUCH WEIGHT. HE IS.
HE IS GOOD LOOKING. DISCOVERED HOW MUCH FUN IT IS TO MEET NEW PEOPLE.
HE LOVES TREATS, WALKS AND MAKING NEW FRIENDS.
HE IS GOOD WITH OTHER DOGS AND ALREADY KNOWS HOW TO SIT.
(972) 675-9662 TO SCHEDULE A MEET AND GREET. THANK YOU, MR. LEGH-PAGE. THAT IS A GOOD LOOKING PUPPY RIGHT THERE. HE'S A GOOD DOG.
YES. YEAH. SO EVERYBODY WATCHING? GOOD. NO. IT'S OKAY.
GO TAKE A LOOK. HE IS AVAILABLE. THANK YOU, MR. LEGH-PAGE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. MISS NASH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST HAVE ONE RECOGNITION TONIGHT UNDER OUR CORE VALUES, RECOGNITION FOR SERVICE AND NEIGHBORLY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE KYLEN STRAUSS OF THE SACHSE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT FOR REPRESENTING OUR DEPARTMENT IN THE ANNUAL GUNS AND HOSES FOUNDATION FOR NORTH TEXAS BENEFIT BOXING TOURNAMENT.
KYLEN WON HIS MATCH AND THE FIREFIGHTERS TOOK THE OVERALL TITLE.
THE GUNS AND HOSES FOUNDATION IS A NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO PROVIDING IMMEDIATE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO THE FAMILIES OF FALLEN POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS LOST IN THE LINE OF DUTY, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING CHILDREN'S CHARITIES BACKED BY LOCAL FIRST RESPONDER DEPARTMENTS.
COMPETING IN THIS EVENT IS ABOUT MORE THAN A MATCH.
IT IS ABOUT SHOWING UP FOR FELLOW FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE FAMILIES THEY LEAVE BEHIND.
KYLEN, THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING SACHSE FIRE RESCUE WITH PRIDE.
WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE IN AND OUT OF THE RING.
AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF KYLEN IN ONE OF HIS MATCHES.
AND AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM FOR WINNING THE TOURNAMENT.
I WONDER WHICH COLOR HE'S WEARING. I CAN ONLY GUESS.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAD MAYOR. OKAY, THANK YOU, MISS NASH. A COUPLE ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM ME.
THE CITY WILL HAVE A BRIEF CLOSURE TOMORROW FROM 10 A.M.
TO 11:30 A.M. FOR AN EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION EVENT.
THIS DOES NOT IMPACT PUBLIC SAFETY OPERATIONS.
OUR NORMAL HOURS WILL RESUME AT 11:30 A.M.. WE APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING ON THAT.
AS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, AND I OWE SOME KUDOS TO MR. LEGH-PAGE. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PEANUT BUTTER BOWL, AND MR. LEGH-PAGE HAS STEPPED UP AND ACCEPTED DONATIONS EVEN AT HIS PLACE.
BUT ALSO WE HAVE DONATIONS YOU CAN BRING ANYWHERE, ALMOST ANY FACILITY, FACILITY YOU CAN THINK OF.
AND THAT'S NOW THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH. AS IF YOU DON'T KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A FRIENDLY COMPETITION WITH THE CITY OF ROWLETT TO SEE WHO CAN RAISE COLLECT, I SHOULD SAY MORE JARS OF PEANUT BUTTER AND RAISE MORE MONEY FOR FOOD INSECURITY IN NORTH TEXAS.
SO WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT'S DONATED, BUT IT'S NOT TOO LATE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH.
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WE COULD REALLY USE YOUR DONATIONS BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO TRY TO MAKE A LATE PUSH.NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS COMING SOON. TUESDAY, OCTOBER THE 6TH, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
WILL IS WHERE WE CELEBRATE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WITH BLOCK PARTIES, COOKOUTS, COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES.
THIS IS AN ANNUAL EVENT, A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO VISIT WITH THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, AND ALSO WITH THE SACHSE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS. NOW, IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO CONDUCT A BLOCK PARTY, BUT WE DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO REGISTER, REGISTER IT WITH THE CITY SO OUR OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS AND CITY REPS CAN STOP BY AND VISIT.
IT IS TOUCH A TRUCK. THIS, NOT THIS COMING SATURDAY, BUT SATURDAY, OCTOBER 10TH FROM 9 A.M.
JOIN US AT 3324 FIFTH STREET FROM 9 A.M. TO 1 P.M.
KIDS WHO COME IN COSTUME WILL RECEIVE A CANDY GIVEAWAY.
SO AGAIN. SATURDAY, OCTOBER 10TH, 9 A.M. TO 1 P.M..
ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS I HAVE. ANYBODY ELSE THAT I MISSED? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[D. Consent Agenda]
ITEM D CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM ONE, APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026 MEETING MINUTES, ITEM TWO ACCEPT THE MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING JULY 31ST, 2026, ITEM THREE ACCEPT THE QUARTERLY BUDGET AND INVESTMENT REPORTS FOR THE QUARTER ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2026, ITEM FOUR APPROVE AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-09 BY AMENDING REVENUE SERVICE FEES AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ITEM FIVE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SIX YEAR CONTRACT WITH MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, SOFTWARE UPGRADES AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF SAID INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOFTWARE OF THE GARLAND, MESQUITE, ROWLETT SACHSE GMRS RADIO SYSTEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $421,589.24.ITEM SIX CANCEL THE OCTOBER 9TH, 2026 COUNCIL MEETING.
ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ANY ITEM OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA? MISTER LEGH-PAGE. I WOULD I'D LIKE TO REMOVE TWO AND FIVE.
TWO AND FIVE. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR ITEMS ONE, THREE, FOUR AND SIX. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE D ONE, THREE, FOUR AND SIX. YES. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS TO APPROVE ITEMS D ONE, THREE, FOUR AND SIX. DO I HAVE A SECOND, MR. PRESTENBERG? SECOND. SECOND BY MR. PRESTENBERG. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY, BACK ON ITEM D TWO.
[2. Accept the monthly revenue and expenditure report for the period ending July 31, 2026.]
ACCEPT THE MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING JULY 31ST, 2026.MR. LEGH-PAGE. YES, I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
THE SEWER WAS ONLY AT 28%. HOW MUCH OF THAT REMAINING 14 MILLION IS COMMITTED TO VERSUS BEING ROLLED OVER? THERE YOU GO, MR. NASH. THANK YOU. I'LL SCROLL TO THAT PAGE.
SO THE SEWER BUDGET ACTUALLY INCLUDES BOTH OUR OPERATING AND OUR CAPITAL BUDGETS.
AND SO THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS THE MAJORITY OF THE REMAINING BUDGET.
AND THAT AGAIN, THAT PROJECT, THOSE FUNDS WILL ROLL OVER TO NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
ALL THOSE MONIES HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THAT BUDGET.
OKAY. THE DRAINAGE REVENUE IS AT 225%. WHERE IS THAT ADDITIONAL 332 GOING? OKAY. THAT IS SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO, WHO DON'T KNOW, WE DID A STUDY IN MAY OF 2025 FOR NEW STORMWATER RATES.
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AND SO THIS ACCOUNTS FOR THE NEW INCREASE, BUT WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR IT BECAUSE THAT WAS DONE MID-YEAR.SO OUR REVENUE BUDGET DID NOT UPDATE. WE DIDN'T UPDATE THAT TO REFLECT THE NEW FEE INCREASE.
SO THAT 332,000 UNFORTUNATELY WON'T BUILD ONE PROJECT.
OKAY. THAT WAS ALL I HAD FOR FOR TWO. FOR TWO.
YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL DO FIVE IN JUST A SECOND. OKAY.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM TWO? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS. MISS HOWARTH.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM D TWO AS PRESENTED.
MOTION BY MISS HOWARTH TO APPROVE ITEM D.2 AS PRESENTED.
I HAVE A SECOND? MISS BUHLER. SECOND. SECOND BY MISS BUHLER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.
[5. Authorize the City Manager to execute a six-year contract with Motorola Solutions for infrastructure and software upgrades and ongoing maintenance of said infrastructure and software, of the Garland, Mesquite, Rowlett, Sachse (GMRS) radio system, in the amount of Four Hundred Twenty-One Thousand, Five Hundred Eighty-Nine and 24/100 Dollars. ($421,589.24)]
AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF STATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOFTWARE OF THE GARLAND MESQUITE, ROWLETT SACHSE GMRS RADIO SYSTEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $421,589.24, MISTER LEGH-PAGE. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW THIS WAS PRIOR TO MY TIME.IT WAS I REMEMBER SEEING THE MEETING ON IT. BUT I HAD QUESTIONS DURING THAT TIME AS WELL.
WHY DO WE NEED TO DO IT NOW? IT'S OUR CONTRACT GOES TILL 2028, IF I'M CORRECT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE DOING IT NOW BECAUSE IT OUTLINES IN THE PRESENTATION, BY BEING ABLE TO DO THIS, WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE A BETTER PRICE TO BE ABLE TO START WITHIN AT 2027 LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, I'M LOOKING IT UP HERE. SO THIS WAS OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO LOCK IN THE RATES.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE PACKET ON THE MAINTENANCE COST PAGE, THIS WAS OUR ABILITY TO LOCK IN THESE RATES TO BE ABLE TO GET A BETTER PRICE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MOTOROLA. AND SO ACTUALLY, OUR ORIGINAL PRICE THAT WE HAD NEGOTIATED WHEN WE DID THE PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL BACK IN THE SPRING WAS $490,000, AND THE STAFF WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE DOWN WITH MOTOROLA TO $421,000.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MONEY NOW AND FUND BALANCE, WHAT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO IS BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT AT THIS LOCKED IN $421,000 RATE, BUT WE ACTUALLY WON'T HAVE TO PAY IT UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF FY 2027.
SO WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY THIS NOW, IT'S SIGNING THE CONTRACT NOW FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THE PAYMENTS STARTING IN 27-28.
ARE THERE OTHER OTHER BIDS THAT WE HAVE IN ELECTRONICS TO ME IS TWO YEARS LIKE THAT? IN TWO YEARS IT COULD BE SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAT PRICING EVERYTHING, LIKE JUST THINK ABOUT YOUR IPHONE TWO YEARS.
SO IF WE'RE COMMITTING TO SOMETHING THAT'S THIS PRICE.
YES. SO WE'RE LOCKING IN THE RATE AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO MOTOROLA.
WE ARE A PART OF THE GMRS SYSTEM. IT'S GARLAND THAT THAT MANAGES IT AND BUILDS THAT SYSTEM.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN IN THEIR SYSTEM SINCE 2015, THIS SYSTEM SINCE 2015.
AND MOTOROLA WAS THE CHOICE THAT THEY WENT WITH AT THE TIME.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE STAYING WITH. ARE WE ABLE TO USE OUR OLD STUFF PAST THE 2028 AND PAY MAINTENANCE FEES ON IT, OR PAY LIKE REPLACEMENT FEES AND STILL BE PART OF THAT? OR IS THAT BECAUSE FROM WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IT'S 490,000.
THAT'S FOR ALL NEW EQUIPMENT, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THIS EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT STILL WORKS, DO WE STILL WE HAVE ISSUES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A CHIEF QUESTION. DO WE HAVE ISSUES WITH IT? WE PLAN TO KEEP THAT AND CHIEF, YOU CAN COME UP AND ANSWER ANY MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT WE PLAN TO PHASE THIS EQUIPMENT OUT ONCE THE NEW CONTRACT COMES INTO PLAY AND THEY PROVIDE THE NEW EQUIPMENT, THEN WE'LL PHASE ALL OF THESE PIECES OUT.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THIS CONTEXT, THIS EQUIPMENT IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE SUPPORTED BY MOTOROLA BY 2028, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE SHELF THAT REPAIRS IT.
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AND NOT RUN THE RISK OF A FAILURE OF ANY TYPE THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR SYSTEM TO WHERE THEY COULDN'T SUPPORT IT.AND WE COULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO OUR RADIO SYSTEM OVERALL.
SO THIS IS THIS IS RADIO AND AND VIDEO AS WELL, IS IT? NO SIR. JUST RADIO. THESE ARE DISPATCH CONSOLES, ASSOCIATED SERVERS, HARDWARE SOFTWARE AND THE MAINTENANCE THAT SUPPORTS ALL OF THAT.
AND THIS IS OUR FIRST PURCHASE OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE SINCE THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT BACK IN 2015.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY LASTED LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED.
I THINK THIS IS A EXCELLENT USE OF TAXPAYER FUNDS.
THE QUESTION MAY BE, WELL, CAN WE GET ON ANOTHER SYSTEM OR START A SYSTEM OF OUR OWN? MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT.
THIS WE'RE PART OF THAT. THE GARLAND? YES, SIR.
IT WOULD BE THE. WE'RE A SUBSCRIBER. YES, SIR.
OKAY. NO, THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHIEF.
YES, SIR. ANYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ALL AT ONCE.
MISS HOWARTH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM D.5 AS PRESENTED.
I GET IT. THOSE NUMBERS GET TRICKY. MOTION BY MISS HOWARTH TO APPROVE ITEM D.5 AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. MR. PRESTENBERG. SECOND. SECOND BY MR. PRESTENBERG. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AGAIN THIS IS TO APPROVE ITEM D.5.
HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM E ACTION ITEMS.
[1. Discuss and consider approving a resolution amending the City of Sachse City Council Rules of Order and Procedure, providing a repealing clause, and providing an effective date.]
ITEM ONE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE CITY OF SACHSE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE, PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.MISS GRANGER. YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CAN YOU ALL.
I'M NOT USED TO HAVING TO ADJUST MY OWN SOUND.
I WAS GONNA SAY YOU'RE A LITTLE SOFTER. WELL, ENOUGH. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. SO, ACCORDING TO SECTION 3.13 OF THE CITY CHARTER AT THE AUGUST 5TH, 2024 MEETING, COUNCIL ADOPTED RESOLUTION R 2024-05, THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE.
SECTION 6.1 OF THAT DOCUMENT SPECIFIES THAT THE DOCUMENT SHOULD BE REVIEWED AND REVISED AS NEEDED, AND AT A MINIMUM, EVERY TWO YEARS. SO I HAVE DRAFTED AND AMENDED DOCUMENT SIMPLIFYING THE LANGUAGE.
I TRIED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO NAVIGATE AND REMOVED SOME REPETITION.
COUNCIL RECEIVED A DRAFT FOR REVIEW IN PREPARATION FOR THIS MEETING.
SO TONIGHT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO DISCUSS ANY DESIRED REVISIONS.
HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO CHOOSE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TONIGHT OR PROVIDE DIRECTION.
AND I CAN PROVIDE A REVISED DOCUMENT FOR A LATER DATE.
WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MISS GRANGER. AS MISS MR. GRANGER MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS ON EACH SECTION OTHER THAN SECTION SIX, I GUESS, WHICH IS PROBABLY MORE ADMINISTRATIVE. SO WHAT I FIGURED WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH THIS IS TO TAKE IT SECTION BY SECTION.
SO WITH THAT WE WILL START WITH SECTION ONE. AND WE DID HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS, BUT I WILL JUST OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL WHOEVER WANTS TO COMMENT FIRST ON SECTION ONE. IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS.
WOULD THAT BE FAIR, MISS GRANGER? OKAY, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD.
OKAY. MR. MILLSAP, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE.
IF WE HAVE NO COMMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THE SUGGESTIONS OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUGGEST ACCEPTING SUGGESTIONS? NO. WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IS IF NOBODY HAD ANY CHANGES WITH WHAT MS. GRANGER ORIGINALLY PRESENTED. WE COULD DO THAT.
AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO SECTION BY SECTION. SO IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOME CHANGES, FOR EXAMPLE, ON SECTION ONE, THAT'D BE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT. IF YOU WANT TO SEE CHANGES.
OKAY. ON SECTION ONE, I TEND TO AGREE WITH ALL THE SUGGESTIONS THAT ARE MADE.
OKAY. AND IF WE HAVE NO OTHER NEGATIVES, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THEM AS PRESENTED.
OKAY. WELL WE'LL SEE SECTION ONE. YEAH, WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S OTHER COMMENTS. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY.
THANK YOU, MR. MILLSAP. MISS BUHLER, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MISS GRANGER, YOUR SUGGESTED VERSION IS IN THE REGULAR PARAGRAPH IN RED, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OUT TO THE SIDE HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED.
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THEY ARE NOT INCORPORATED. CORRECT. AND I WOULD ALSO MENTION THAT YOU YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED THOSE COMMENTS JUST SO I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY WILL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. I, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR VERSION AND NOT THE TWO COMMENTS PRESENTED.OKAY. OKAY. MISS HOWARTH, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LINDSEY.
I LIKE IT AS IS AS PRESENTED FROM MISS GRANGER WITH NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES.
OKAY. SO NO CHANGES IN RED. GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS HOWARTH.
MR.. EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS. YEAH, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO JUST ASK.
WHY DO WE WANT TO. WHAT'S THE RATIONALE OR THE THINKING BEHIND REMOVING COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM EXECUTIVES OR, EXCUSE ME, LIAISONS FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION? I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT BEHIND IT.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. YEAH, I WOULD IF ANYBODY MADE THAT COMMENT WANTS TO EXPAND ON IT, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. MR. MILLSAP. OKAY.
IN THAT COMMENT. IF WE RECALL A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN A VERY RECENT COUNCIL MEMBER CAME ON THE COUNCIL WAS VERY ACTIVE IN CERT AND WANTED TO CONTINUE HIS ACTIVITIES IN CERT AND STARTED ATTENDING THE MEETINGS.
HE CAME BACK AT THE BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
HE CAME BACK THAT THE MEMBERS IN THAT COMMITTEE FELT INTIMIDATED BY NOT FEELING NOT BEING ABLE TO SPEAK UP AND WITHOUT SOME COMMENTS. WE HAVE THE SAME THING THAT WENT ON A FEW YEARS BACK WITH THE EDC, WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS GETTING INVOLVED IN, IN DISCUSSIONS AT EDC MEETINGS SUPPOSEDLY. AND THAT CAME, THAT'S BEEN A CONTENTION EVER SINCE THEN.
SO THE BEST WAY TO ELIMINATE THAT PROBLEM IS JUST SAY WE DON'T ATTEND LIAISONS, LIAISONS DON'T ATTEND, AND SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS.
THAT WAS WHAT THE LIAISON WAS TO BASICALLY WAS TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS AND BRING BACK FEEDBACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR TO ENLIGHTEN THEM AS TO WHAT THE COMMITTEES ARE DISCUSSING, OR ASK QUESTIONS AND GET CLARIFICATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.
TO THIS DATE, IT'S SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL.
I'VE NEVER HAD A LIAISON BRING ANY INFORMATION BACK FROM ANY COMMITTEE IN A PUBLIC MEETING OR A PRIVATE MEETING WHERE IT WOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS THINKING. DO WE NEED TO GIVE THEM SOME SUGGESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS OR, OR INFORMATION OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? THEY'VE ASKED ME TO BRING THIS BACK AND GET SOME INFORMATION.
THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED. SO WHY DO WE HAVE LIAISONS? SHOULD NOT? I FEEL LIKE LIAISONS SHOULD NOT BE ATTENDING EXECUTIVE SESSIONS THAT WAY THEY WOULDN'T BE INTENDED TO BE GETTING INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS I HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, COMING TO OPEN MEETINGS WHERE LIAISONS HAS BEEN GOTTEN INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS IN AN OPEN MEETING, NOT EVEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. AND I DON'T FEEL THAT IS WHAT THE LIAISONS POSITION IS.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE LIAISON DEFINITION OF A LIAISON IS.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT. SO THE BEST WAY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM IS DON'T ALLOW IT.
IS THAT OKAY? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. OKAY.
OKAY. SO SO FAR, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY I'M SORRY.
MAYOR PRO TEM. FRANKS. SO I'LL DISCREDIT 1 OR 2 OF THOSE.
SO THE ISSUE WITH THE CERT MEMBER WE'VE ADDRESSED AND OUR POLICIES, YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER CANNOT SERVE ON CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS, SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A, A GOOD ARGUMENT.
THE LIAISON ARGUMENT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF A LOT OF EXECUTIVE SESSIONS BECAUSE I WAS ON THE PARKS BOARD, AND THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS.
AND THE MDD SPECIFICALLY, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS AND PROJECT COST, AND IN THOSE INSTANCES, SPECIFICALLY AS A MEMBER, AS THE LIAISON SITTING IN IN THE THE, THE CHAIRS, I'M JUST GOING TO CALL IT. I'VE HAD TO CLARIFY SEVERAL THINGS.
IF STAFF DIDN'T CLARIFY OR THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, THEN I WOULD COME UP AND BE LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THIS MEANS. I WOULD ALSO ON THAT SAY THAT WE HAVE HAD MANY TIMES WHERE THE EDC LIAISON HAS TOLD US THIS IS HOW THE BOARD WAS THINKING OR WHAT THE BOARD WAS THINKING IN THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION.
THAT HAS HAPPENED A MULTITUDE OF TIMES. I CAN'T COUNT HOW MANY TIMES THAT'S HAPPENED.
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SO I DON'T I DON'T SEE THE LOGIC HERE. MR. MILLSAP.YOU SAY YOU HAVE HEARD THAT MANY A TIME. I HAVE NOT HEARD IT AT ALL.
SO IF YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THAT INFORMATION, IT'S BEEN ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS, NOT ON A CITY COUNCIL, OPEN COMMUNITY FORUM, CITY COUNCIL OFFICIAL MEETING, MAYBE BEHIND THE SCENES ON A PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS.
MAYBE SO, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT. OKAY. OH, EXCUSE ME, MR. PRESTENBERG. YES, I'M KIND OF ON THE SAME BOAT HERE AS MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS, HAVING SERVED ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER COMMITTEE.
THERE HASN'T BEEN THAT MANY SECRETIVE DISCUSSIONS OR EXECUTIVE SECOND EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSIONS.
NOW, BEING ON PLANNING AND ZONING, THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE.
HOWEVER, I THINK COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN HOWARTH, YOU'VE BEEN ON EDC, RIGHT? AND SHE HAS PRESENTED A LOT OF TIMES LIKE WE'VE ASKED HER LIKE, HEY, WHAT WAS THE SENTIMENT? I MEAN, A SEVEN ZERO SENTIMENT IS PRETTY UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT IF IT'S 4 TO 3 OR 5 TO 2, WHY WERE PEOPLE UPSET ABOUT THIS IDEA? I THINK IT'S GREAT TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT WAS THERE.
I MEAN, I THINK HAVING THEM IN THE ROOM IS JUST AN ADDITION AND A FORCE POSITIVE VERSUS A NEGATIVE.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND STRIKING THAT COMMENT OR NOT EVEN HAVING IT ADDED TO THIS.
OR AS MISS HOWARTH SAID, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, NO CHANGES TO THE SECTION.
YES. YEAH. GOTCHA. OKAY. MISS HOWARTH, I WOULD JUST MAKE THE POINT THAT THE DISCUSSIONS THAT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER FRANKS IS OR MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS IS REFERRING TO ARE THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD AS A COUNCIL, WHERE WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE SAME BUSINESS THAT THE EDC HAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I HAVE NEVER DISCUSSED IT OUTSIDE OF A MEETING WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSED.
I DO NOT BREAK THE LAW. MISS GRANGER, FOR MY RECOLLECTION WAS THIS A SECTION THAT THE ATTORNEY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE MINUTES? IT IS NOT. IT'S NEXT. OKAY. JUST DIDN'T WANT TO FORGET THAT.
OKAY. SO THE CONSENSUS I HEAR FROM COUNCIL ON SECTION ONE IS NO CHANGES.
IS THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT? OKAY. SO, MISS GRANGER, WE WILL GET THE MOTIONS IN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT FOR SECTION ONE, IF YOU'LL JUST RESTATE THAT.
YES. FOR SECTION 1.4, WE WILL LEAVE THE LANGUAGE.
THE WORDS THAT ARE IN BLACK WILL LEAVE THOSE AS THEY ARE.
THERE WAS ONE OTHER COMMENT IN THAT SECTION. WOULD YOU MIND GIVING ME A DIRECTION ON THAT ONE? COULD YOU READ THE COMMENT, PLEASE? YES. DOES IT IN RELATION TO IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WERE TO ASK THE CITY SECRETARY, THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE FOR ANY ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA, WOULD THAT HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER? YES. I DIDN'T HEAR A COMMENT ABOUT THAT. SO COUNCIL CERTAINLY CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT.
BUT MY IS IF THERE WAS NO COMMENT ON THAT, THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE INCLUDED.
OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. NO YOU'RE GOOD. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE CITY SECRETARY.
THAT'S WHY YOU KEEP US ALL. MAKE SURE I GET IT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S GOT TO DO THE RESOLUTION, SO. OKAY. HEARING NO OTHER COMMENTS ON SECTION ONE, WE WILL GO ON TO SECTION TWO.
SO SAME THING WE DID FOR SECTION ONE AND SECTION TWO.
AND IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS, I WILL JUST ASSUME WHICH IS DANGEROUS.
I'LL JUST ASSUME THAT WE WILL LEAVE IT AS IS.
MISS HOWARTH, I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I WOULD PREFER WE LEAVE IT AS IT IS.
OKAY, THERE YOU GO. OTHER COMMENTS, MR. PRESTENBERG? YEAH. ONE QUESTION ON THE COMMENT FOR 2.2. ESTABLISHING THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA.
IT WAS REQUESTED INSTEAD OF BEING THE MAYOR, ALONG WITH WRITTEN SUPPORT OF TWO ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, CONSIDER REDUCING TO ONE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBER. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY THAT WAS REQUESTED.
YEAH. HOPEFULLY. WHO EVER MADE THAT COMMENT WILL TELL US WHY.
OKAY. I DON'T I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS A PERSON, BUT MISS BUHLER WAS UP TO SPEAK.
SO MISS BUHLER. THAT WAS NOT MY COMMENT. OKAY.
THAT'S THAT'S WHY I CLARIFIED THAT. I WANT TO TOUCH ON 2.1.
I WOULD LIKE TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW ON THE REASONS WHY YOU CAN RECUSE YOURSELF.
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SO I WOULD NOT LIKE TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL COMMENT TO THE SIDE AS WELL AS 2.2 I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP OUR CURRENT POLICY OF WRITTEN SUPPORT OF TWO ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBERS. OKAY. HOLD ON, HOLD ON.YOU'RE ON NOW, JOE. SHE GOT YOU. OKAY, I HAVE A MIC.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACT. I HAD TO, I JUST HAD TO PUSH THE BUTTON. I REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY. JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. I JUST WANT TO PUSH THE BUTTON. NO, ON 2.1. KEEP IN MIND, BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP RECENTLY, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS SOME TML TRAINING ABOUT ABSTAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS TELL YOU UNLESS YOU HAVE A LEGAL REASON, DON'T ABSTAIN. BUT THERE'S SOMETIMES YOU JUST MIGHT ABSTAIN BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T FEEL RIGHT VOTING. AND WE COVERED THAT IN THE CHARTER THAT THAT WOULD JUST ABSTENTION WOULD BE COUNTED AS A NO VOTE.
IT'S IN THE CHARTER. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. GORFIDA. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY, MR. MILLSAP. WE ALL HAD TO ATTEND THE TML ETHICS TRAINING AND PASSED THAT. AND IT VERY DEFINITELY EMPHASIZES THAT YOU WANT TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF CONFLICT AT ALL COSTS.
SO I'M THINKING THIS IS THE REASON THAT IT'S PUT ON.
AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL HAD TO PASS THAT THING AND THAT IS COMMITTED.
AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE CARRIED OUT INTO OUR PROCEDURES, SINCE WE HAD TO COMMIT TO DO IT, TO PASS THE TML ETHICS TRAINING. SO BASICALLY, HERE WE ARE CONFLICTING OUR OWN TRAINING THAT WE AGREED TO ABIDE BY, BY NOT PUTTING IN YOU APPEARANCE OF COST, OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
AND THAT'S THE REASON I PUT THAT IN. NOW, I EXPECT THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT, OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE OPENING YOURSELF UP TO A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. MR. GORFIDA STATE LAW DEFINES WHAT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS.
AND AND HERE THIS IS REALLY JUST ADDRESSING THE MAYOR.
UNDER CHAPTER 171 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, YOUR CHARTER SAYS YOU'RE REQUIRED TO VOTE UNLESS A LEGAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST UNLESS A LEGAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST EXISTS UNDER 171. AND IF YOU DON'T VOTE, IT GIVES YOU THE ALTERNATIVE TO OPT OUT.
IT'LL BE A NO VOTE. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN STILL NOT VOTE.
IT'LL JUST BE COUNTED AS A NO VOTE PER YOUR CHARTER.
THAT'S YOUR CHARTER LANGUAGE. THANK YOU. AND IF THIS SECTION IS NOT CHANGED YOU DON'T SEE A CONFLICT OR ANYTHING? NO. YOU JUST YOU JUST YOU JUST HAVE TO VOTE. YEAH.
WE'LL GET TO THE OTHER. YEAH. NO, I GOT YOU. OKAY, MR. LEGH-PAGE. ALL RIGHT. ON THE THE 2.2. I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER IF IT WAS ME THAT DID THAT, AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONFUSION.
SO YOU HAVE A WRITTEN TO THE MAYOR, AND THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO THAT'S THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO FOUR IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE THREE TOTAL. IT WOULD BE THE MAYOR AND THEN.
NO NOT ME. SO IT YOU'RE JUST EMAILING THE MAYOR.
SO THEN YOU HAVE ONE THESE TWO. YEAH. SO WE NEED THREE. WE NEED THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY 40%, BASICALLY 40.
I'M NOT GOOD AT MATH, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT I THINK, I THINK THAT'S WHY I DID IT.
IT WAS TO LIKE ONE PERSON TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.
I'M GOOD EITHER WAY, BUT I WAS SO CONFUSED BY.
YEAH. NO, YOU GOT TO GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.
TALK TO GINA. YEAH. NO, I GET I'VE SENT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY I GOT WITH LEGAL.
YEAH. NO. MAYOR, ALONG WITH THE WRITTEN SUPPORT OF TWO ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO IT'S THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND THEN GOING TO THE MAYOR. YEAH. THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN CURRENTLY. YEAH.
OKAY. OKAY. LET'S SEE. MR. MILLSAP, TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, I SUPPORT THAT WE LOWER THAT FROM 2 TO 1.
JUST TAKES THREE CITIZENS. SO WHY SHOULD IT TAKE THREE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFLUENCE? WHAT GOES ON THE AGENDA THAN THAN JUST A CITIZEN.
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MISS HOWARTH SORRY. I WOULD ARGUE THAT IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BRING BEFORE THE COUNCIL, YOU WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE GETTING THE SUPPORT OF TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.AND IF YOU CAN'T GET THE SUPPORT OF TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEN IT'S PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH SPENDING OUR TIME ON BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE THE VOTES TO PASS IT. AND WELL, MAYBE YOU WOULD, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF MOVING BUSINESS ALONG AND GETTING THINGS DONE, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY WISE TO GET INPUT FROM TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE YOU PUT IT ON THE BALLOT OR PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
THANK YOU, MISS HOWARTH. OKAY. SO THE CONSENSUS AGAIN IS THAT THERE ARE NO CHANGES.
TO ME, AVAILABLE SEEMS LIKE AN ODD PHRASE JUST BECAUSE YOU WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON THESE MEETINGS, RIGHT? I KNOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE ONES THAT GO LONG TIME, LONG INTO THE NIGHT.
SOMETIMES WE'RE OUT OF HERE IN 20 MINUTES. RIGHT.
SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE OVER SEMANTICS HERE, BUT.
NO, BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO I ALWAYS LEAN ON STAFF.
MISS NASH AND MISS GRANGER, ESPECIALLY THE WAY I INTERPRETED IT AVAILABLE.
AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MISS GRANGER, IS THAT IT'S LEGALLY AVAILABLE.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T PUT SOMETHING ON THE NEXT AGENDA IF IT'S NOT LEGALLY POSSIBLE. CORRECT.
IF THE AGENDA HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED, WE CANNOT CHANGE IT.
EVEN THOUGH THAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THE AGENDA IS NOT AVAILABLE TO BE ADDED TO.
SO I KNOW YOU HELPED DRAFT THIS, BUT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AVAILABLE THE WAY.
I AM. OKAY. OKAY. YES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, LIKE, IF I REACH OUT TO MY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO GET THIS ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S FRIDAY AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN POSTED, I GET THE NEXT AVAILABLE MIGHT NOT BE TILL OCTOBER 5TH OR FOURTH, WHATEVER THAT MONDAY IS.
BUT TO ME, I READ IT, AS YOU KNOW. WELL, WE'LL LOOK AT THE AGENDA.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO BASED ON MISS GRANGER'S COMMENT THAT SHE IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE AVAILABLE LANGUAGE, THEN WHICH IS CORRECT. YES. OKAY. CONSENSUS WISE, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OTHER CHANGES.
YES. SO IN SECTION TWO, I ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES.
CAN, IS THERE ONE ON THE NEXT PAGE? THERE'S ALSO 2.9.
SO I'VE TAKEN THOSE OUT. BUT YOU HAVE A RED LINE AND BLUE LINE.
YES. IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE RED LINE AND AND BLUE LINES AS WELL, AM I UNDERSTANDING? YES. ANY ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT, MR. GORFIDA? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR CLARITY PURPOSES ON THAT SECOND PARAGRAPH.
A COUNCIL MEMBER MAY REQUEST THAT THE CITY MANAGER.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT IT TO YOU.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.
YEAH. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T. IF TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY, I WANT IT ON THERE, YOU CAN'T SAY, NOPE, SORRY, YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT ON THERE BECAUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO IT WOULD BE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER BRINGING THE ADDITION.
AND THEY NEED TWO ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THAT.
JUST I'M SORRY. YEAH, YEAH. THE TWO ADDITIONAL SUPPORTING PLUS THE ONE MAKES IT THREE.
YOU'RE CORRECT. YES. OKAY. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MAYOR.
THE MAYOR DOESN'T HAVE A VOICE. HE JUST HE'S JUST MOVING IT FORWARD. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. SORRY.
I JUST HAVE A VOICE ANOTHER WAY [LAUGHS]. YEAH.
THERE WAS ONE ADDITIONAL CHANGE THAT THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DID SUGGEST, AND THAT WAS 2.9 A, THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. YOU. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT TO VOTE ON THE MINUTES, BUT AN ABSTENTION IS A NO VOTE, AND I ADDED THE LANGUAGE ABOUT ENCOURAGING REVIEW OF THE RECORDING IN.
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OKAY. YES. ANYONE ON COUNCIL OBJECT TO THAT? OKAY.I DON'T SEE ANYBODY. SO, MISS GRANGER, IF YOU'LL READ WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR SECTION TWO.
YES, FOR SECTION TWO. THE ONLY CHANGES WE HAVE THEN ARE THE RED LINES IN 2.9 AND 2.9 A.
ONLY CHANGES. YOU HAVE ONLY CHANGES. YES. OKAY.
THANK YOU, MISS GRANGER. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO SECTION THREE.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS WHETHER WE WILL CONSIDER THEM OR NOT, OR MORE THAN A COUPLE.
SECTION THREE COMMENTS. QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, SILENCE IS.
WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES. MR. MILLSAP. I SUBMITTED THAT ON THE BASIS ON THE SAME DISCUSSION AS I DID ON PREVIOUS ADAGE ABOUT RECUSING YOURSELF AS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
WHICH WHICH SECTION THREE ARE YOU REFERRING TO? WHERE YOU SAID ABSENT.
OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE.
ABSENTEEISM. AND APPARENT CONFLICT OF REASON FOR SELF RECUSED. DISCUSS. APPARENT. WHAT DOES THE WORD APPARENT MEAN? AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT. ARE YOU LOOKING AT THREE.
WE'RE IN SECTION THREE. I BELIEVE SECTION THREE NOT 3.6.
NO NO THREE SIX IS PART OF IT. ARE YOU IN THREE SIX? YEAH. OKAY. THREE SIX SAYS APPARENT CONFLICT IN REASON.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DEFINITION OR AN EXAMPLE OF A PARENT.
OKAY. HOLD ON. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. YOUR COMMENT IS NOTED, MR. MILLSAP. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ANY SECTIONS? ON THREE. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HEAR ANY. I DON'T WANT TO MISS ANYBODY.
SO WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THE WAY MISS GRANGER HAS PRESENTED IT, THE RED LINE DRAFT IS THAT WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. OKAY WITH MR. MILLSAP OBJECTION.
MISS GRANGER, IF YOU COULD READ THAT INTO THE RECORD.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS GRANGER. ALL RIGHT. SECTION FOUR, ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL AGAIN.
WE HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS. AND AGAIN, IF THERE IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON ANYTHING IN SECTION FOUR, WE CAN DO THAT NOW. OR IF YOU LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS, WE CAN KEEP IT LIKE IT IS.
GOING ONCE. GOING TWICE. STILL GOING THROUGH IT.
OH, OKAY. MY BAD. I'LL SLOW DOWN. OH. I'M SORRY.
MR. MILLSAP. OKAY. SECTION FOUR. THE FIRST ITEM THERE.
MR. MILLSAP, COULD YOU SCOOT YOUR MIC A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
OKAY. ON THAT ONE, THE COMMENT IS MY COMMENT IS MAKE IT OBVIOUS WHEN A PUBLIC, WHEN THE PUBLIC IS ALLOWED TO SPEAK QUITE OFTEN YOU ASK FOR WHEN IT'S OPEN FOR COMMENTS, YOU ASK THEM TO SPEAK UP FRONT.
WELL, WHILE DURING THE DISCUSSION, THERE MAY BE SOME INFORMATION BROUGHT UP THAT WOULD ASK, ENCOURAGE THEM TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. ARE THEY GOING TO GIVE ANOTHER SECOND CHANCE TO ASK FURTHER CLARIFICATION OR OPEN IT UP FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? OF COURSE, CURRENTLY WE DON'T ALLOW THAT. SO WE HAVE A SECTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF IT'S AN ACTION ITEM, A PUBLIC HEARING, OF COURSE THERE'S A DESIGNATED TIME FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE COMMENTS. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION COULD CLOSE OR ON AN ACTION ITEM. IT COULD DEFINITELY CLOSE. I FEEL LIKE THAT THERE IS A THEY DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.
I AM NOT A FAN OF THE BACK AND FORTH, SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE ANY CHANGES THERE.
THAT'S ME. MAYOR HOWARTH. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY COMMENT.
SORRY WE HAVEN'T. WE HAVEN'T HAD A REALLY LONG PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM IN MANY YEARS.
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WHEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 100 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK, YOU NEED TO GIVE THEM THEIR THREE MINUTES AND THEN MOVE ALONG AND GET THE BUSINESS DONE OR NOT DONE UP OR DOWN AND NOT GO BACK AND FORTH.OTHER COMMENTS, EITHER ON THAT COMMENT OR ANY OTHER PART OF SECTION FOUR.
AND MISS GRANGER, AGAIN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE YOUR RED LINE SUBMISSION TO COUNCIL.
IF IT WERE TO BE ADOPTED WITH THAT, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? YES. I THINK IT FALLS IN LINE WITH STATE LAW AND CHARTER.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE IF I SAY SOMETHING, I'M GOING TO BUMP INTO READING TIMES. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. LEGH-PAGE, THE 4-47 PROVIDING THE WRITTEN MATERIALS, PHOTOGRAPHS, PROPS, OTHER VISUALS DURING A MEETING. I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S SOME OF THEM THAT THAT NOT HAVING THAT STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IF THEY'RE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING INTO THERE, LIKE I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SAW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ON THE SIDE OF THE FIREHOUSE, BUT I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IF IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE COULD PUT THAT IN, IF IT COULD GO. SO I'M TRYING TO THINK. I THINK SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S THAT'S PERFECT FOR WHAT THEY HAVE.
SO YEAH, SO UNFORTUNATELY IN THE PAST, PEOPLE HAVE ABUSED THAT.
AND SO IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE IF YOU DO, IN MY OPINION, IF YOU DO ALLOW A QUOTE UNQUOTE, A CERTAIN CATEGORY OF YOU KNOW, I JUST CALL THEM PROPS. VISUAL MATERIALS, THEN YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A WAY TO SAY, WELL, YOU CAN DO THAT PROP, BUT NOT THIS ONE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S, THERE'S, IF YOU OPEN IT UP FOR SOMETHING, THEN YOU HAVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR EVERYTHING. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO PRESENTERS STAFF, OF COURSE. SO I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THAT IF YOU OPEN THAT BACK UP, IT IT LEADS TO ABUSE.
SO I ASSUME WE HAD IT BEFORE AND THEN IT WAS TAKEN, TAKEN AWAY.
OKAY. YES. MAKES SENSE. BUT I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MISS BUHLER.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY I DO SUPPORT THE WAY LEAH HAS PRESENTED SECTION FOUR.
PRESENTERS ARE STILL ALLOWED TO PRESENT AT THAT TIME.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE A LOT OF TIMES IT'S PHOTOGRAPHS.
I DON'T REMEMBER RECENTLY WHETHER THERE'S ANY LIKE MATERIALS, ITEMS, IF YOU WILL.
AND I WILL SAY TOO, IF SOMEONE IN THAT SPIRIT, IF SOMEONE CAME WITH.
AGAIN, I SAY PROP. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE.
IS THAT CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO THEY CAN SUBMIT VISUAL AIDS IF THEY WANT TO THROUGH THAT PROCESS? YES. IT JUST WOULDN'T BE DISPLAYED. BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT JUST WOULDN'T BE DISPLAYED UP HERE. IT WOULD BE GIVEN TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOTCHA.
OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER CHANGES ON OR MAYBE LACK THEREOF ANY OTHER CHANGES TO SECTION FOUR? OKAY. SO THE CONSENSUS I HEARD IS THAT THERE WERE NO CHANGES OTHER THAN HOW.
MISS GRANGER, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.
OKAY. IF YOU WILL READ THAT INTO THE RECORD. YES.
SECTION FOUR. I HAVE THE ONLY CHANGES I HAVE ARE THE RED LINE VERSION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO COUNCIL.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS GRANGER. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO SECTION FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AGAIN, WE HAD ACTUALLY, WE JUST HAD TWO COMMENTS, I THINK.
SO. OPEN UP THE FLOOR AS USUAL. QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON SECTION FIVE.
MR. PRESTENBERG? YES. ON SECTION B 5.1 B IT SAYS THE MAYOR MAY LIMIT PRESENTATION TIME TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY. AND THE COMMENT LOOKS LIKE IT SAYS SHOULD WE CONSIDER ADDING BUT NOT LESS THAN THREE MINUTES PER PERSON? TRYING TO THINK BACK TO A TIME WHERE YOU, THE MAYOR HAS LIMITED COMMENTS TO 1 MINUTE OR 2 MINUTES OR A MINUTE AND A HALF,
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WHATEVER. I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT. I WOULD ASSUME IF WE HAD A LINE OUT THE DOOR, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.YEAH. SO IT HASN'T HAPPENED SINCE SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE.
BUT YOUR POINT IS A VALID ONE. SO THE WAY STATE LAW.
I'M SURE MR. GORFIDA WOULD CORRECT ME IS THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED IN OUR IN OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT EACH SPEAKER, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH TRADITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC HEARING OR AN ACTION ITEM THAT YOU DO, YOU'RE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. SO IT'S ALREADY IN THE RULES. YOU'RE CORRECT.
BUT ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK I'D EVER BE IN FAVOR OF THAT BECAUSE IF WE HAD 100 PEOPLE AND THAT'S MRS HOWARTH ALLUDED TO A FEW YEARS AGO, IT SEEMED LIKE WE HAD 100 SPEAKERS THAT CAME UP.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE 100, IF YOU HAVE ONE.
IT'S ALREADY THREE MINUTES. SO OF COURSE, THIS WAS IN THE 2024 VERSION AS WELL, CORRECT? YES IT WAS. SO REALLY WHAT THAT'S IN THERE FOR IS THAT IF WE DID HAVE SOME UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE, I WOULD HAVE THAT ABILITY, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE ONE PERSON SPOKE.
RIGHT. AND BECAUSE RULES HAD TO APPLY TO EVERYBODY. RIGHT.
YEAH. AS MUCH AS I'D WANT TO LIMIT SOME FOLKS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THEIR AMPLE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY'RE GIVEN AND THAT THEY'RE, THEY WANT THEIR, THEIR TIME TO SPEAK ON A CERTAIN TOPIC.
BUT I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THIS. BUT IS THIS A AND IT SAYS THE MAYOR.
BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT IT REALLY BE THE PRESIDING CHAIR, PRESIDING OFFICER, REALLY.
BUT IF YOU WERE JUST LIKE ADAM, LIKE EVERYONE WAS COMING UP TO TALK BAD ABOUT YOU AND YOU'RE LIKE, I WANT TO LIMIT IT TO FIVE SECONDS, YOU KNOW? BUT EVERYONE ELSE WANTED TO HEAR IT, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO OVERRULING FROM MAJORITY. THERE ACTUALLY IS.
AND NOW IT'S IN A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE DOCUMENT, BUT BY A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I SAID, HEY, I KNOW IT'S NORMALLY THREE MINUTES, BUT I'M ONLY GOING TO MAKE IT ONE, RIGHT? A MAJORITY OF [INAUDIBLE] ARE SAYING, NO, WE'RE GOING TO JUST KEEP IT AT THREE.
OKAY. SO THERE IS A SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME MECHANISM FOR THAT ALREADY.
YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN I'M, I'M GOOD WITH STRIKING THAT EXTRA COMMENT.
OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, NO CHANGES, NO CHANGE. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, MR. PRESTENBERG. EXCUSE ME. MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKS.
SO I WOULD HATE TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A A PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU GET THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. NO LESS THAN THREE MINUTES.
BUT NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. SEEMS A LITTLE REDUNDANT TO ME. YEAH. I DON'T SEE THE LOGIC THERE.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE PERSON THAT IS MAKING THE APPLICATION FOR WHATEVER CHANGE THAT MIGHT BE.
WE DON'T GENERALLY THE RULES DO NOT ACTUALLY LIMIT THOSE SPEAKERS TO THREE MINUTES.
YEAH. GOOD POINT. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. BUT HEY, IT'S STILL A GOOD DISCUSSION. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. CLARIFICATION.
RIGHT. BUT GOOD. GOOD DISCUSSION THOUGH. OKAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON SECTION FIVE? MRS GRANGER IS ALWAYS ON TOP OF IT, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.
OKAY. MISS GRANGER, IF YOU'LL JUST STATE FOR THE RECORD WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR SECTION FIVE. YES, FOR SECTION FIVE, I DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES OTHER THAN THE RED LINE VERSION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO COUNCIL. NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. OKAY.
THANK YOU, MISS GRANGER. OKAY. THE LAST SECTION IS SECTION SIX PROCEDURES ADMINISTRATION.
THERE WERE NO COMMENTS ON THAT. YOU CAN CERTAINLY COMMENT ON IT NOW, BUT I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OR MISS GRANGER DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON SECTION SIX. OKAY. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE. OKAY, SO MISS GRANGER HAS STATED EACH SECTION PREVIOUSLY, AND UNLESS I MISSED SOMETHING, THERE WERE NO CHANGES OVERALL TO WHAT YOU HAD SUBMITTED IN THE RED LINE VERSION.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM E.1 AS DISCUSSED.
AS DISCUSSED. MOTION BY MISS HOWARTH TO APPROVE ITEM E.1 AS DISCUSSED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? MR. PRESTENBERG. SECOND BY MR. PRESTENBERG. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MISS GRANGER, ARE YOU GOOD WITH EVERYTHING? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.
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MOTION PASSES WITH MR. MILLSAP VOTING NO. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ADJOURN AT THE THOMAS GRANGER 7:35 P.M..WE ADJOURNED AT 7:35 P.M..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.